Post by: River on October 14, 2008, 12:05:39 AM
Post by: SHANE(WA) on October 14, 2008, 01:06:54 AM
Post by: roadhuntking on October 14, 2008, 10:22:42 AM
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Post by: Ridgerunner on October 14, 2008, 10:48:44 AM
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Post by: UBA on October 14, 2008, 12:36:20 PM
Post by: Colville on October 14, 2008, 04:08:11 PM
PG 59 of WA regs.
1. Hunting big game with the aid of artificial lights or spot lights is illegal.
It does not say spotlighting big game is illegal, only hunting them with the lights is illegal. Similar to #4 that says hunting from a vehicle is illegal, but not spotting game from one.
The RCW on spotlighting:
RCW 77.15.450
Spotlighting big game — Penalty.
(1) A person is guilty of spotlighting big game in the second degree if the person hunts big game with the aid of a spotlight, other artificial light, or night vision equipment while in possession or control of a firearm, bow and arrow, or cross bow. For purposes of this section, "night vision equipment" includes electronic light amplification devices, thermal imaging devices, and other comparable equipment used to enhance night vision.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.450
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 14, 2008, 04:18:20 PM
Post by: backyard bucks on October 14, 2008, 04:34:39 PM
Post by: roadhuntking on October 14, 2008, 04:40:22 PM
Post by: deaddog on October 14, 2008, 04:57:35 PM
Post by: jkononen on October 14, 2008, 06:49:27 PM
Post by: yelp on October 14, 2008, 06:57:42 PM
Post by: yelp on October 14, 2008, 07:01:57 PM
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 14, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
Regarding the issue in this post, I don't think we can say one way or another they were poaching. What if they were just looking for a camping spot? What if they were looking at deer with no weapons in the vehicle? It certainly doesn't rise to the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 14, 2008, 07:12:53 PM
Post by: bighorns2bushytails on October 14, 2008, 08:37:03 PM
page 57 of the washington 2008 big game regs
" These are lawfull hunting hours (one-half hour before sunrise to one half-hour after sunset) for game animals and forest grouse (ruffed, blue, spruce) during established seasons. EXCEPTIONS: (a) bobcat and raccoon are exempt from hunting hour restrictions during established bobcat and raccoon seasons except when that area is open to modern firearm hunting of deer or elk, hunting hours shall be one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset. (b) hunting hours for falconry seasons (except migratory bird season) are exempt from these hunting hours, except on designated pheasant release sites"
doesnt say anything bout coyotes, but i think i recall last years regs saying something bout coyote hunting at night being OK as long as it wasnt during modern firearm deer or elk seasons. i wouldnt think merely looking at animals with no weapon in the vehicle or on thier persons would constitute an illegal act. i would say anyone spotlighting during deer or elk season better expect to get some harrasment from other hunters as well as the law. however thats just my 2 cents not a fact. i would think if someones acting sheepish they are up to something, otherwise they wouldnt care.... fact is some people do stuff like this most people pry dont. just seperates the skillful people who work hard for thier harvests/trophies and the other people... i would like to add that i like my sleep entirely to much to even think about such an endeavor.
this pry doesnt answer any questions but its the literature i found right in the regs. hope this might help.
Post by: deaddog on October 15, 2008, 07:21:15 AM
you think they were doing something okay? and how would you have done something?
[/quot Do you assume their doing something wrong because their indian? Look I understand the issue, some folks will always take more than their fair share ,break the law, whatever, but puting an enter race to blame is just plan stupid. i have never poached anything. i pick up trash other leave. and ill turn anybody in who does, and have, whites and indians. But according to some of you , because im 1/2 indian, i must be poaching at least half the time, right. :mor: I have also seen the same kind of crap from whites, so since im also half white i must be poaching full time :mor: and to answer your second question, i would have approched them , i would have gotten a plate #. I would have done anything other than stand there with my hands in my pockets, waiting to get back to my house so my internet balls can exspress how bad indians are. punks thats all these guys are and thats not a judgement on race, its a judgement on their actions. i love to hunt and fish and enjoy the company of those who also love this sport, but mindless little ass wipes like a couple of the guys here are part of the problem, not the anwser. hope all you guys have a great day. even even mindless ass wipes deserve a break now and than. :stup: :stup: :stup:
Post by: roadhuntking on October 15, 2008, 10:12:10 AM
Post by: Ray on October 15, 2008, 12:09:20 PM
From what I read on here it didn't seem to be a racist slur as much as it seemed to be an open rant about spotlighting. Did someone actually shoot something or was he just spotlighting and you have strong reason to believe there was intent to shoot?
Post by: roadhuntking on October 15, 2008, 12:24:56 PM
Post by: deaddog on October 15, 2008, 12:58:56 PM
Post by: Huntbear on October 15, 2008, 01:38:59 PM
Using a spotlight at any time shined on big game is considered harassing the wildlife, and you will be ticketed. If you even have an air rifle in the vehicle while shining the light they will get you for attempting to poach. That came from the wardens mouth.
Post by: River on October 16, 2008, 09:29:24 PM
"Spotlighting is a violation under RCW 77.15.450 (1).
Thank you,
Enforcement Program
360-902-2936
RCW 77.15.450 (1):
(1) A person is guilty of spotlighting big game in the second degree if the person hunts big game with the aid of a spotlight, other artificial light, or night vision equipment while in possession or control of a firearm, bow and arrow, or cross bow. For purposes of this section, "night vision equipment" includes electronic light amplification devices, thermal imaging devices, and other comparable equipment used to enhance night vision.
(2) A person is guilty of spotlighting big game in the first degree if:
(a) The person has any prior conviction for gross misdemeanor or felony for a crime under this title involving big game including but not limited to subsection (1) of this section or RCW 77.15.410; and
(b) Within ten years of the date that such prior conviction was entered the person commits the act described by subsection (1) of this section.
(3)(a) Spotlighting big game in the second degree is a gross misdemeanor. Upon conviction, the department shall revoke all hunting licenses and tags and order a suspension of the person's hunting privileges for two years.
(b) Spotlighting big game in the first degree is a class C felony. Upon conviction, the department shall order suspension of all privileges to hunt wildlife for a period of ten years.
(4) A person convicted under this section shall be assessed a criminal wildlife penalty assessment as provided in RCW 77.15.420.
[2005 c 406 § 6; 1998 c 190 § 27.]
Post by: SHANE(WA) on October 16, 2008, 11:22:37 PM
Post by: jkononen on October 17, 2008, 01:24:59 AM
Post by: 12Gauge on October 17, 2008, 07:44:26 AM
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It doesn't matter race, creed, color...the law is the law. Deaddog your right on. We don't need that here on this site. However you do agree that if it illegal or unethical or against law tribal or state or federal its wrong!
You guys are correct we do not need this kind of crap on this site or anywhere. Labeling people just instigates or intensify racial hatred. How did that guy that called them Indians really know they are Indians, did he check their ID's? They could have been Mexicans, Asian or some other non white race.
So please leave the labels at home, using a metaphor like monkeys is not good one ether.
Post by: deaddog on October 17, 2008, 07:55:47 AM
wow, i must be racist. and as far as your concered i would have to say yes, you are a racist, your first reaction by your own words (do you think they were doing something right?) ya wow is right moron. :stup: :stup: :mor: :mor: