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Title: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: livnlife on June 14, 2013, 09:06:31 PM
I was just watching a show on outdoorman network and they were hunting blackies over bait on the Quinault reserve
ation and with the option for a second tag in one day. So, are reservations exempt from WDFW rules/regulations for baiting and # of tags?
Title: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: jackelope on June 14, 2013, 09:07:18 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: JoeE on June 14, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
Yes

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: coachcw on June 14, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
they have been baiting them for hundreds of years and putting other tribes on them for trading furs and such ... It's there tribal rights !  we all should be able to bait it's a stupid law !
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: rtspring on June 14, 2013, 09:24:25 PM
Welcome to the "not the same for all people game"
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: coachcw on June 14, 2013, 09:32:50 PM
All I need to do is put out the garbage and wait !
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: xXLojackXx on June 16, 2013, 07:47:03 AM
It's total BS that they can bait and not the rest of "us". You should see what they do to the elk herds too.
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: Bob33 on June 16, 2013, 07:52:11 AM
They are a separate nation. We can't tell Canada or Mexico how to regulate hunting either.
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: dreamunelk on June 16, 2013, 08:28:23 AM
Sum of the best elk hunting in Washington are in areas where it is rumored the Indians wiped them out.   

As for the bear baiting.  Pretty much answered above.  Separate nation not under state law.  If their citizens voted to make it illegal it would be.
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on June 16, 2013, 08:28:52 AM
They are a separate nation. We can't tell Canada or Mexico how to regulate hunting either.

But we don't have THEM running all over our country doing whatever they like, killing our animals, taking goverment money, sending money back to.......................wait a minute.???? :chuckle:    Okay, not Canada




It's total BS that they can bait and not the rest of "us". You should see what they do to the elk herds too.

 Many of us have on the old Mountain Home ranch for  one
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on June 16, 2013, 02:12:25 PM
They are a separate nation. We can't tell Canada or Mexico how to regulate hunting either.


Separate Nation?? I've never seen a tribal air force, army or navy. How does this nation protect itself? How does this "nation" employ it's people? Tribal nation dept. of highways,  etc.??  Just asking..........
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on June 16, 2013, 02:15:48 PM
Here we go....

 :beatdeadhorse:


Tagging to see what happens.
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: sled on June 16, 2013, 02:18:50 PM
They are a separate nation. We can't tell Canada or Mexico how to regulate hunting either.


Separate Nation?? I've never seen a tribal air force, army or navy. How does this nation protect itself? How does this "nation" employ it's people? Tribal nation dept. of highways,  etc.??  Just asking..........
  Damn!  Pretty Much Says It All.  Good Point.
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: bearpaw on June 16, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
The tribes have been wiser than the state for keeping baiting open on their lands, good for them, it wasn't the tribes that voted out baiting in the rest of Washington, we need to be upset with the urban I-5 corridor for voting out baiting and hounds.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on June 16, 2013, 02:47:46 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: Curly on June 16, 2013, 03:47:31 PM
we need to be upset with the urban I-5 corridor for voting out baiting and hounds.  :twocents:

How about just being upset with any of the mental midgets that voted out baiting and hunting with hounds (whether or not they live along the I-5 corridor?  :dunno:  (I'm sure there were plenty of people from Spokane and Tri Cities that voted for those initiatives as well). :twocents:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 16, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
we need to be upset with the urban I-5 corridor for voting out baiting and hounds.  :twocents:

How about just being upset with any of the mental midgets that voted out baiting and hunting with hounds (whether or not they live along the I-5 corridor?  :dunno:  (I'm sure there were plenty of people from Spokane and Tri Cities that voted for those initiatives as well). :twocents:
:yeah:
I live 1 mile form the urban i-5 corridor and wouldn't vote for something like that. Lets be mad at the people who did vote for it, not just people on the wetside..  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: PlateauNDN on June 16, 2013, 04:14:46 PM
But Bear that would be to difficult, why don't we just conrinue with the easy route and bash the Tribes. :bash: 
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: bearpaw on June 16, 2013, 04:54:35 PM
we need to be upset with the urban I-5 corridor for voting out baiting and hounds.  :twocents:

How about just being upset with any of the mental midgets that voted out baiting and hunting with hounds (whether or not they live along the I-5 corridor?  :dunno:  (I'm sure there were plenty of people from Spokane and Tri Cities that voted for those initiatives as well). :twocents:

I agree, there were some on the eastside who voted for it too, I meant the vast hugger crowd, not the good folks on the west side.  :sry:


But Bear that would be to difficult, why don't we just conrinue with the easy route and bash the Tribes. :bash: 

I can't say that I will always agree with the tribes, but the tribes had nothing to do with the huggers and some hunters who voted out hounds and baiting.
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on June 16, 2013, 05:08:43 PM
If this link works, it shows the 1996 Initiative results with a link to the county breakdown.

http://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/results_report.aspx?e=17&c=&c2=&t=&t2=5&p=&p2=&y= (http://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/results_report.aspx?e=17&c=&c2=&t=&t2=5&p=&p2=&y=)

Looking through, by my count only 9 counties voted against it:

Columbia, Douglas, Ferry, Garfield, Lewis, Lincoln, Okanogan, Pend Oreille & Stevens. 
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: bearpaw on June 16, 2013, 05:36:11 PM
If this link works, it shows the 1996 Initiative results with a link to the county breakdown.

http://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/results_report.aspx?e=17&c=&c2=&t=&t2=5&p=&p2=&y= (http://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/results_report.aspx?e=17&c=&c2=&t=&t2=5&p=&p2=&y=)

Looking through, by my count only 9 counties voted against it:

Columbia, Douglas, Ferry, Garfield, Lewis, Lincoln, Okanogan, Pend Oreille & Stevens.

Thanks for clarifying. Most of those counties are region 1 counties that opposed, with the exception of Douglas and Okanogan (I think Region 2) and Lewis the only county on the west side to vote against it. I would say the statistics do show that the westside counties and the counties with larger populations on the eastside almost unanimously passed it. Now that more counties have large cougar populations I think the vote would be much different today in some of the smaller westside and some eastside counties, but the masses in Pugetropolis, Spokane, and other cities would likely still pass it. :twocents:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: bearpaw on June 16, 2013, 05:40:42 PM
I didn't add votes but I suspect King County alone outvoted the counties that opposed I-655. The votes in King County were 2 to 1 in favor.  :bash:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 16, 2013, 05:49:20 PM
I really wish each county could vote on there own hunting laws. To much pull from king county to mess with all of the laws that have taken away baiting and hound hunting in our back yard. My dad has always said if they want them so bad and want to protect them. Lets load some up in the horse trailer and go deliver them  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: bearpaw on June 17, 2013, 06:32:37 PM
I really wish each county could vote on there own hunting laws. To much pull from king county to mess with all of the laws that have taken away baiting and hound hunting in our back yard. My dad has always said if they want them so bad and want to protect them. Lets load some up in the horse trailer and go deliver them  :chuckle:

I would love to do that with a couple dozen wolves to downtown Seattle.  :chuckle:
Title: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: KopperBuck on June 17, 2013, 07:02:37 PM
I really wish each county could vote on there own hunting laws. To much pull from king county to mess with all of the laws that have taken away baiting and hound hunting in our back yard. My dad has always said if they want them so bad and want to protect them. Lets load some up in the horse trailer and go deliver them  :chuckle:

We're trying to get that done down here.

These need to be local decisions!!!
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: dreamunelk on June 17, 2013, 07:21:10 PM
The sad truth guys is the measure didn't just pass in king county.  Pretty surprising (sad) to see that it passed in almost every county.  Follow the link.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=53&year=1996&f=0&off=60&elect=0 (http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=53&year=1996&f=0&off=60&elect=0)

Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: opdinkslayer on June 17, 2013, 08:56:37 PM
The real question is how the hell does a game management decision get on the ballot to be decided by uninformed people that wear their emotions on their sleeves? :dunno: :bash:  This country gets dumber by the day and the way we are going we can kiss it all good-bye in the not too distant future. :stup:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: Curly on June 17, 2013, 09:11:52 PM
The real question is how the hell does a game management decision get on the ballot to be decided by uninformed people that wear their emotions on their sleeves? :dunno: :bash: 
:yeah:

Game management by initiative measures is so completely stupid and insane. :bash:  Just wait until wolves are delisted; once they are, you can bet there will be an initiative voted on to protect the wolves from any hunting seasons. >:(
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: BullCrazy24 on June 18, 2013, 12:14:22 PM
I really wish each county could vote on there own hunting laws. To much pull from king county to mess with all of the laws that have taken away baiting and hound hunting in our back yard. My dad has always said if they want them so bad and want to protect them. Lets load some up in the horse trailer and go deliver them  :chuckle:

we can start with the big boar i saw a couple weeks ago on your family's land in R-C canyon feeding on a fresh deer kill.
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: jackmaster on June 18, 2013, 12:21:45 PM
i say it should be a law that all tree huggers buny lovers or whatever should all have to live in king county, and then they can be happy leaf licking kulls all they want and live by their own liberal obama lovin rules and leave the rest of the state alone.....that would be saweeeeeeet :tup:
Title: Re: Baiting on tribal land?
Post by: BullCrazy24 on June 18, 2013, 12:28:51 PM
 :yeah: well said!!!
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