Post by: Dave Workman on June 19, 2013, 07:49:21 AM
Washington groups launch fight against gun control initiative
A coalition of some of the state’s firearms community leaders has launched a grassroots campaign to counter the well-financed gun control initiative backed by a Seattle-based gun control group, while also preventing firearms confiscation “by any government agency…without due process.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/washington-groups-launch-fight-against-gun-control-initiative (http://www.examiner.com/article/washington-groups-launch-fight-against-gun-control-initiative)
:IBCOOL:
TAKE OFF THE GLOVES, RAISE THE BATTLE FLAGS AND PULL OUT YOUR WALLETS....
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 19, 2013, 08:04:38 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 19, 2013, 08:26:43 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 19, 2013, 09:20:54 AM
I also just sent a small donation to CCRKBA. We can kill this thing and strengthen our rights in this state at the same time. :tup:Thanks
Be sure to mark all donations for the I-591 effort, or Protect Our Gun Rights...
OUTSTANDING!!!!!!
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 19, 2013, 10:24:21 AM
Post by: jyerxa on June 19, 2013, 11:11:21 AM
Thank you for keeping us in the know all the time. You're a great resource for HuntWA.
Touché :tup:
Post by: CedarPants on June 19, 2013, 11:15:03 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 19, 2013, 11:58:43 AM
Thank you for keeping us in the know all the time. You're a great resource for HuntWA.
:yike:
The last time somebody said that, the WDFW tried to auction off a tag for me and set a special season
:IBCOOL:
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 19, 2013, 11:59:51 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 19, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
As a matter of fact Dave, I'm still waiting on the results of that drawing - Draw Not Run Yet! :chuckle: :chuckle:
That does it. I'm screwed
Now, let's not derail this thread. We're in this to beat this gun control bunch arrogantly calling itself the "Washington Alliance for Gun RESPONSIBILITY."
What these people call "responsibility" translates to registration and ultimately a ban attempt, and they know it.
Post by: blackdog on June 19, 2013, 06:25:21 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 20, 2013, 04:46:16 AM
I'm all in to defeat this misguided initiative!
First, keep up with ALL the news.
In addition to reading my column(s) on this, keep an eye on such stuff as ran in the Seattle Times Thursday:
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021226280_gunrightsinitiativexml.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021226280_gunrightsinitiativexml.html)
and read the reader comments. They're very instructive about the mentality we're up against.
Post by: Dave Workman on June 20, 2013, 09:37:40 AM
:chuckle: :IBCOOL:
Within hours of yesterday’s announcement that Washington State gun rights leaders were mounting a defense against a big-money gun control initiative launched last week, the well-funded Washington Alliance for Gun Responsibility (WAGR) was crying foul in a blanket e-mail appealing for more money to pad its $1 million-plus war chest.
http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-control-goliath-cries-fowl-as-david-fights-back?cid=db_articles (http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-control-goliath-cries-fowl-as-david-fights-back?cid=db_articles)
Post by: bearpaw on June 20, 2013, 10:11:44 AM
I'm all in to defeat this misguided initiative!
:yeah: glad to hear.... :tup:
Dave, thanks for the info. Hopefully the forum members will rally behind this effort, I know that I certainly will. Please remind us when these petitions are ready and when they are all set up for donations to the cause, I want to put a link on our front page for these things.
This topic is now stickied...
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 20, 2013, 10:54:00 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 20, 2013, 12:04:58 PM
Reading some of the comments, two things strike me. If the article in the Seattle Times is any representation, nowhere near 85% are in favor of this new law. Secondly, the ease with which stupid people would throw away the 2nd Amendment boggles my mind. Talk of repeal in that article's comment section is unbelievable. These people have no clue.
they have no hearts, souls or brains, either.
If it were their oxes being gored, they would be crying — nay, screaming — to the heavens for one and all to come to their defense.
And we all know it.
notice from whence they all seem to hail...That modern melting pot of carpetbaggers, coffee and liberal pretension...The great cultural utopia of Seattle...
Post by: Dave Workman on June 20, 2013, 12:08:09 PM
Dave, thanks for the info. Hopefully the forum members will rally behind this effort, I know that I certainly will. Please remind us when these petitions are ready and when they are all set up for donations to the cause, I want to put a link on our front page for these things.
This topic is now stickied...
Dale and all:
Petitions are available from the POGR office in Bellevue.
You may call and request copies at (425) 454-4911
or write to
POGR
12500 N.E. Tenth Place
Bellevue, WA 98005
I know they were working on accounts and stuff today, so you can also send contributions. The other side has more than $1 million and more promised.
our rights are not for sale at any price.
Post by: bearpaw on June 21, 2013, 08:12:01 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 21, 2013, 09:05:47 AM
I hope they make a pdf that can be passed online to others easily. Maybe that's not possible?
Alas, that's not possible. The Secretary of State REQUIRES that the petitions be a specific size and most people cannot download to a printer for that size. Most printers do 8 1/2x11
On the plus side:
YOU MAY E-MAIL REQUESTS FOR PETITIONS TO:
YesOn591@liberty.seanet.com
and log onto:
www.YesOn591.org (http://www.YesOn591.org)
Post by: Dave Workman on June 21, 2013, 01:33:23 PM
I-591 campaign kickoff at WAC Puyallup gun show
Backers of Initiative 591 will officially kick off their signature drive this weekend at the Washington Arms Collectors’ (WAC) gun show in Puyallup, as thousands of gun owners will gather at the Western Washington State fairgrounds for the two-day event that opens at 8 a.m. Saturday.
http://www.examiner.com/article/i-591-campaign-kickoff-at-wac-puyallup-gun-show?cid=db_articles (http://www.examiner.com/article/i-591-campaign-kickoff-at-wac-puyallup-gun-show?cid=db_articles)
Post by: Special T on June 21, 2013, 01:47:48 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 21, 2013, 02:02:29 PM
I would bet that you can have it in a PFD then take it to a copy shop and have them printed on thecorrect size paper. :twocents:
I would bet that if you e-mail the campaign or log onto their website, you will get copies of the petition for free.
;) :chuckle:
Post by: Special T on June 21, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on June 21, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
Dave, thanks for the info. Hopefully the forum members will rally behind this effort, I know that I certainly will. Please remind us when these petitions are ready and when they are all set up for donations to the cause, I want to put a link on our front page for these things.
This topic is now stickied...
Dale and all:
Petitions are available from the POGR office in Bellevue.
You may call and request copies at (425) 454-4911
or write to
POGR
12500 N.E. Tenth Place
Bellevue, WA 98005
I know they were working on accounts and stuff today, so you can also send contributions. The other side has more than $1 million and more promised.
our rights are not for sale at any price.
Dave
I just ordered 50 copies to put out in the store I manage in Skagit County.
Can you post on hear a one page reason why gun folks should sign it. That we could print out or PM it to me.
Thanks
Post by: Dave Workman on June 21, 2013, 07:02:20 PM
Dave
I just ordered 50 copies to put out in the store I manage in Skagit County.
Can you post on hear a one page reason why gun folks should sign it. That we could print out or PM it to me.
Thanks
Oh, cripes, where to start?
First and foremost: Our rights are NOT FOR SALE to a handful of rich elitist dilletantes who think they can make better decisions for us than us. Their billions of dollars can't buy my privacy either.
Second: I-591 is simple. No gun confiscation without due process (no more post-Katrina type gun grabs around here) and background checks must be in compliance with a uniform national standard.
There is much to worry about from any initiative that stretches 15 pages.
There is very little to worry about from an initiative that covers a half--page and spells out succinctly what it will do and not allow.
Post by: Dave Workman on June 22, 2013, 12:02:31 PM
:IBCOOL:
It may not be the biggest crowd the Washington Arms Collectors ever attracted to its monthly gun show at the fairgrounds in Puyallup, but they are an enthusiastic bunch and Saturday morning saw WAC members signing Initiative 591, the “Protect Our Gun Rights” (POGR) measure announced earlier in the week.
http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-show-brings-out-grassroots-for-i-591-kick-off?cid=db_articles (http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-show-brings-out-grassroots-for-i-591-kick-off?cid=db_articles)
Post by: bearpaw on June 22, 2013, 12:14:37 PM
Post by: Jingles on June 22, 2013, 08:56:12 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on June 24, 2013, 08:56:23 AM
I'm sure it has been thought of already but any chance NRA can contribute to the cause?
Wellllllll...... if you're a member, you might suggest that to them. So far, NRA has not made a public peep about 591.
If they DO jump in, it could be a game changer.
Bodies v. big bucks in background check battle with national implications
They came from across the state, from Bellingham to Vancouver, converging over the weekend on the Puyallup fairgrounds, to sign copies of Initiative 591 and get blanks to take back home, where they will have neighbors, friends and local gun shops fill up the sheets; a grassroots army stirred to action by the fear of Seattle-based big money buying away their gun rights.
http://www.examiner.com/article/bodies-v-big-bucks-background-check-battle-with-national-implications (http://www.examiner.com/article/bodies-v-big-bucks-background-check-battle-with-national-implications)
BTW: Jingles, would you like to circulate a petition?
Post by: bearpaw on June 26, 2013, 08:34:50 AM
Get petitions now and pass them around.
Call: (425) 454-4911
Email: YesOn591@liberty.seanet.com
Initiative Language: www.YesOn591.org (http://www.YesOn591.org)
Donate: https://secure.piryx.com/donate/AOaM4TFe/Protect-Our-Gun-Rights-YES-on-I-591/ (https://secure.piryx.com/donate/AOaM4TFe/Protect-Our-Gun-Rights-YES-on-I-591/)
or write to
POGR
12500 N.E. Tenth Place
Bellevue, WA 98005
Initiative Measure No. 591
PROTECT OUR GUN RIGHTS
AN ACT Relating to protecting gun and other firearm rights; adding new sections to chapter 9.41 RCW; and creating new sections.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:
NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. A new section is added to chapter 9.41 RCW to read as follows:
It is unlawful for any government agency to confiscate guns or other firearms from citizens without due process.
NEW SECTION. Sec. 2. A new section is added to chapter 9.41 RCW to read as follows:
It is unlawful for any government agency to require background checks on the recipient of a firearm unless a uniform national standard is required.
NEW SECTION. Sec. 3. The provisions of this act are to be liberally construed to effectuate the intent, policies, and purposes of this act.
NEW SECTION. Sec. 4. If any provision of this act or its application to any person or circumstance is held invalid, the remainder of the act or the application of the provision to other persons or circumstances is not affected.
NEW SECTION. Sec. 5. This act is known and may be cited as the “Protect Our Gun Rights Act.”
— END —
Post by: ghosthunter on June 27, 2013, 11:26:47 PM
Dave
I just ordered 50 copies to put out in the store I manage in Skagit County.
Can you post on hear a one page reason why gun folks should sign it. That we could print out or PM it to me.
Thanks
Oh, cripes, where to start?
First and foremost: Our rights are NOT FOR SALE to a handful of rich elitist dilletantes who think they can make better decisions for us than us. Their billions of dollars can't buy my privacy either.
Second: I-591 is simple. No gun confiscation without due process (no more post-Katrina type gun grabs around here) and background checks must be in compliance with a uniform national standard.
There is much to worry about from any initiative that stretches 15 pages.
There is very little to worry about from an initiative that covers a half--page and spells out succinctly what it will do and not allow.
Thanks Dave
I am doing my part.
Post by: Dave Workman on June 28, 2013, 10:35:22 AM
The Washington State Rifle & Pistol Association has thrown its support to the effort to put Initiative 591 before the state legislature in January, Examiner learned Friday morning, wrapping a week that has been brutal and embarrassing to the gun control crowd, from bad “gun study” karma for Barack Obama to bad press for Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn….
http://www.examiner.com/article/another-important-player-joins-i-591-campaign-say-backers (http://www.examiner.com/article/another-important-player-joins-i-591-campaign-say-backers)
Post by: huntrights on June 28, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
We should all be asking, "Where can I sign, and how can I help?"
This initiative needs to succeed with far more signatures than required.
Post by: Dave Workman on June 30, 2013, 01:48:01 PM
We should all be asking, "Where can I sign, and how can I help?"
This initiative needs to succeed with far more signatures than required.
The real problem, and it is woeful, is that so many of "our" folks can find any excuse to NOT sign an initiative, or to sign the wrong one (I-594) .
I was at the NRA convention in Seattle in 1997, the year they ran I-696, the gun control measure that got shot down 71-29 percent..
I saw gun owners signing the damned thing right outside the state convention center. One guy said he just believed it ought to be on the ballot. Others had no clue what they were signing.
How stupid is that??? :bash: :bash: :bash:
And you are quite right. I would like to see 400,000 signatures on I-591.
That, in itself, sends a powerful message.
Post by: Dave Workman on July 02, 2013, 01:47:38 PM
>:(
Challenge filed to WAGR gun control ballot title
An Everett attorney has filed a challenge to the ballot title of Initiative 594, the gun control measure being pushed by the Washington Alliance for Gun Responsibility.
http://www.examiner.com/article/exclusive-challenge-filed-to-wagr-gun-control-ballot-title (http://www.examiner.com/article/exclusive-challenge-filed-to-wagr-gun-control-ballot-title)
Post by: bearpaw on July 02, 2013, 07:22:58 PM
Great write up and thanks for keeping us informed.
My 591 petitions arrived today, I will get them distributed around town tomorrow. :tup:
Post by: blackdog on July 02, 2013, 10:08:34 PM
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Post by: SCRUBS on July 10, 2013, 07:03:28 PM
if i get off at a decent time i was going to try and see if whole sale sports in lacey will accept some to keep in their store.
Good idea CF but The Whole Sale Sports in Lacey closed down. Maybe Cabela`s will be interested in having one. Cascade arms on Martin Way might be interested in having one if they don`t already.
Did any of the stores that won`t allow them give a reason why they wouldn`t?
Post by: CementFinisher on July 10, 2013, 10:24:41 PM
Post by: huntrights on July 12, 2013, 02:55:45 PM
PETITION ALERT: Where to Sign I-591: Protect Our Gun Rights
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,129406.0.html
It is critical that the signature gathering for this petition is successful. Please help in that effort.
Post by: huntnphool on July 12, 2013, 03:08:29 PM
Post by: Johnb317 on July 12, 2013, 03:35:31 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on July 17, 2013, 01:13:45 PM
Wades guns in Bellevue have the petition?
Yup!
I-591 campaign picks up key law enforcement endorsement
Backers of an initiative that prohibits gun confiscation without due process of law, and requires that background checks only be done in accordance with a uniform national standard today are reporting they picked up a key law enforcement endorsement, and there’s a hint of déjà vu attached to it.
http://www.examiner.com/article/i-591-campaign-picks-up-key-law-enforcement-endorsement (http://www.examiner.com/article/i-591-campaign-picks-up-key-law-enforcement-endorsement)
Post by: Dave Workman on August 03, 2013, 02:29:41 PM
:tup: :tup: :tup:
One day after the executive director of the anti-gun Mayors Against Illegal Guns told MSNBC’s Chris Matthews that people should run away from an attack or fight with fists rather than use a gun, visitors at this weekend’s Puyallup gun show are standing their ground with ink and dollars, fighting a gun control initiative with one of their own.
http://www.examiner.com/article/wac-members-warm-up-to-i-591-effort (http://www.examiner.com/article/wac-members-warm-up-to-i-591-effort)
Post by: huntrights on August 17, 2013, 07:49:11 PM
If you know where people can sign I-591, let us know where those locations are at the following link. Help connect people with the petitions.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,129406.0.html