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Title: quinault bull tag
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on June 19, 2013, 06:05:04 PM: My friend drew the quinault bull tag for the end of sept....should be a good hunt...i offered to call for him and be a pack mule....anyone on here drawn the tag in past years? How was the hunt for you? I offered my trail cams to him so were gonna head up and do some scoutin when he gets all his info.....i think im about as excited as he is :chuckle:
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Post by: coachcw on June 19, 2013, 07:28:35 PM: skim the park boundrys and intercept those bulls comming down to find hot cows ! :tup:
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Post by: Bullkllr on June 19, 2013, 07:44:41 PM: Think "river" ;)
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Post by: deerhunter_98520 on June 19, 2013, 08:04:37 PM: Thats what i keep hearin..the river.....he rifle hunts so he hasnt got to call many elk in....im lookin foward to bein his caller.......if anyone has any pics of quinault bulls taken post em' up :tup:
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Post by: billythekidrock on June 19, 2013, 08:26:25 PM: No cams needed. Scout a few days before and you will get all you need.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on June 19, 2013, 08:34:52 PM: I didnt think the cams would be necessary but would like to get pics anyways....what would you guys hold out for with that tag? Big 5pt or better?
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: snowpack on June 19, 2013, 08:35:13 PM: The bulls I've heard of taken there were shot on the gravel bars in the river. The cows would herd up out in the open on those big bars, then the bulls go out to the herd.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: billythekidrock on June 19, 2013, 08:42:54 PM: Quote from: deerhunter_98520 on June 19, 2013, 08:34:52 PM
I didnt think the cams would be necessary but would like to get pics anyways....what would you guys hold out for with that tag? Big 5pt or better?

The season is cut down to 5 days and it is directly after the archery season so the elk will not have time to calm down. I would hold out for a big 5 or better, but would try to scout the whole week prior to see what is around and try to get a pattern on a good one. Sometimes those bulls head into the park and may take a day or two to come back out.

If you are putting cams up, I would suggest not doing it on the river. They will disappear. Put the cams up in the hills.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Falcon on June 20, 2013, 09:40:36 AM: :yeah:
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: plugger on June 20, 2013, 10:37:42 AM: My uncle drew that tag a few years back and I went along. The info is correct but you need to get to know a few of the land owners, there is very limited public access and some of the locals bow hunt. There are a couple that will help usually. I haven't looked but you used to have to be in the master hunter program to hunt the river. Could have changed when they got rid of the bull tags for the MH though.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: RaffleMule on June 20, 2013, 11:02:32 AM: You do need a Master Hunter Permit to hunt the "valley floor" which includes all the river bars people are referring to. Maybe there is an exception (I doubt it) for the Quality Tag but I would make a call to WDFW to verify.

You don't want to have that tag taken away before you fill it.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: billythekidrock on June 20, 2013, 04:39:52 PM: Quote from: RaffleMule on June 20, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
You do need a Master Hunter Permit to hunt the "valley floor" which includes all the river bars people are referring to. Maybe there is an exception (I doubt it) for the Quality Tag but I would make a call to WDFW to verify.

You don't want to have that tag taken away before you fill it.

Correct. You have to be a MH to hunt the elk area portion of the unit during the general season and it covers a little bit more than just the valley floor.

You do not have to be a MH to hunt this permit and you can hunt the whole unit, including the elk area.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on June 20, 2013, 05:49:23 PM: Thanks for that info billy....thats important to know that from the sounds of this hunt thats the best place to be
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Forks on June 20, 2013, 05:53:04 PM: Leave your calls in your truck and find ambush locations.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: cryfowl on June 20, 2013, 06:07:41 PM: Most of the land along the river is privately owned, about 90%. There are a few spots closer to the park that you can access but make sure you know where the park boundaries are. Check with the park service for boundary clarification. Make sure the islands and gravel bars people are telling you to hunt aren't actually within the park. Better to be safe than sorry. Good luck
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: billythekidrock on June 20, 2013, 06:14:50 PM: Quote from: Forks on June 20, 2013, 05:53:04 PM
Leave your calls in your truck and find ambush locations.

I agree on finding some ambush locations, but if they can call well then I would suggest taking them. I know a few guys that were able to get good bulls to come out of the park or off private land during this hunt.

Also, if you hunt the river you will want to walk it from top to bottom and KNOW the park boundary. It is not clearly marked in all locations and not all "high water marks" are legal. I believe the park went back to a no retrieval policy so you better drop it if you are near the boundary. Don't buy into the wasting game argument. They are federal, consider the elk theirs and typically don't give a rip about hunters or F&W rules when an animal enters the park.

Know the private property boundaries for yourself. Even the long time parkies get it wrong sometimes. One year we had an old parkie tell us about a piece of "Forest Service" land that people could hunt or camp on but it was actually private land. The told a hunter he could camp there. I had permission from the land owner and boundary photos to show him and he was quite surprised.

The parkies share enforcement duties so be prepared for them to pull up and jot down your vehicle description and possibly stop by your camp.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: billythekidrock on June 20, 2013, 06:15:45 PM: Quote from: cryfowl on June 20, 2013, 06:07:41 PM
Most of the land along the river is privately owned, about 90%. There are a few spots closer to the park that you can access but make sure you know where the park boundaries are. Check with the park service for boundary clarification. Make sure the islands and gravel bars people are telling you to hunt aren't actually within the park. Better to be safe than sorry. Good luck

And don't hunt Big Creek island. It is private.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: plugger on June 20, 2013, 06:31:36 PM: It is definitely a no retrieval policy, that I know.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Forks on June 20, 2013, 06:58:26 PM: George Leite (360)288-2444, Park ranger out of the Quinault Station is a great contact and also a hunter.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: billythekidrock on June 20, 2013, 07:03:28 PM: Quote from: Forks on June 20, 2013, 06:58:26 PM
George Leite (360)288-2444, Park ranger out of the Quinault Station is a great contact and also a hunter.

See...same guy.
Quote from: billythekidrock on June 20, 2013, 06:14:50 PM

Know the private property boundaries for yourself. Even the long time parkies get it wrong sometimes. One year we had an old parkie tell us about a piece of "Forest Service" land that people could hunt or camp on but it was actually private land. The told a hunter he could camp there. I had permission from the land owner and boundary photos to show him and he was quite surprised.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Falcon on June 26, 2013, 11:05:10 AM: Great tag!!!!

Spent some time in there with other permit hunters. I was never lucky enough to draw.

The river bottom is awesome. Hope you shoot a big ole park bull!
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: RaffleMule on June 26, 2013, 11:19:41 AM: Let's see some pictures of these bulls.......

Not to rain on anyone's parade but I have seen more bigger bulls in one day in other GMU's than I have seen my entire life in the Quinault Valley and that includes the Park (Bunches Fields). Cool hunt but if I had the tag and couldn't get access to Big Creek I wouldn't spend any time on the river.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Falcon on July 26, 2013, 04:33:25 PM: Quote from: RaffleMule on June 26, 2013, 11:19:41 AM
Let's see some pictures of these bulls.......

Not to rain on anyone's parade but I have seen more bigger bulls in one day in other GMU's than I have seen my entire life in the Quinault Valley and that includes the Park (Bunches Fields). Cool hunt but if I had the tag and couldn't get access to Big Creek I wouldn't spend any time on the river.

You must have not have seen my brothers bull he killed on the river in 08.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: RaffleMule on July 26, 2013, 04:56:10 PM: Cool.....do you have a picture? Probably a good chance I have seen it on the hoof. Don't get me wrong there are a few select bulls but I wouldnt consider it a quality hunt. 300' bulls are very, very hard to come by and if your brother shot one that is a definite trophy.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 26, 2013, 05:32:16 PM: Is this a rifle tag ? Or archery ? Either way it is during prime time ...should be a fun time !
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Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on July 26, 2013, 06:16:10 PM: Tom, my family had a cabin at Quinault for decades and we hunted that Unit almost exclusively when I was growing up. We knew every canyon/drainage on the south shore. The trouble any more with getting off the valley floor into the high country is all the blowdown from the big storm six years ago. It ruined a lot of good hunting, but there are still pockets you can get into without having to navigate the giant pickup sticks. The packing out of the high country can be daunting, but it's doable especially if you have help. We routinely hunted a couple miles and farther back in. But we had a large group, so we'd send enough guys in to bring them out in one trip. Biggest elk I saw taken there was my uncle's 7x7 he got up Ewell creek. Hiked up to the two mile marker then hunted up the creek bottom from there. But that area is flyblown with blowdown now. My dad actually took a 5x5 that was bigger, but shot one antler off at the base finishing it off. Took that one in a canyon we called A-hole canyon. (named by my great uncle the first time my dad took him in to pack there because as he put it, only an A-hole would kill an elk there) That bull was so big it took 2 extra full packs to bring it out than the nice 5x5 my dad's buddy also shot in there that day. Took us two days of packing to get those bulls out, a rarity for our group. My dad, who lives in Raymond, possibly killed more elk in that unit than anyone. I can't remember a year of my childhood he didn't get an elk. Even in the bad years, if anybody got an elk, dad did. We never hunted the river bottom much, but friends of ours did and were very successful at it.

PM me and I can give you a few areas to try. Just remember, if you get off the valley floor, it's going to be steep.

Rick
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: mrgoodwrench on July 27, 2013, 10:53:48 AM: A buddy of mine had it a couple years ago. He killed a nice 260" 5pt, his was the third largest of the 5 taken, he's a guy that takes a bull almost annually on the west side, and knows how to hunt them. The bigger ones were on private land, and I'm sure they paid a fee for it. Bigger bulls were seen on private and park land.
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Post by: kirkl on July 29, 2013, 08:09:02 PM: Ha ha, nice post dip&$@?. The master. You must be the master baiter of the area.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: westside bull on July 29, 2013, 08:23:34 PM: Quote from: riverghost638 on July 29, 2013, 07:56:32 PM
I have 9 hunters in my group hunting the valley this year archery.And i have 7 rifle hunters for modern.and i have 2 of the 5 trophy tags with me this year so there is 18 bulls that will be taken under my command.that should give the local master hunters something to cry about.WE ARE THE WOLFPACK AND THE VALLEY FLOOR IS WOLFPACK TERRITORY HAS BEEN FOR 35 YEARS SO REMEMBER LOCAL MASTER HUNTERS THERE IS ONLY 1 MASTER IN THE VALLEY RIVERGHOST638 DOMINATES THE VALLEY FLOOR
YOU ARE A STUD MEAT HEAD!!!!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: rb2506 on July 29, 2013, 08:26:04 PM: Thought this was funny til you started yelling
Wolfpack lol

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Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: snowpack on July 29, 2013, 08:36:14 PM: Well, now that it is out that Wolfpack has the valley floor, I figure I should let you guys know who rules the rest of the west. :hello:
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: shrek on July 29, 2013, 09:11:21 PM: Your joking right? If not your a idiot....
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Kowsrule30 on July 29, 2013, 09:21:00 PM: You think this guy watched The Hangover too many times??!! Wolfpack!!! LOL!! I bet you'll feed them all floories to!! 18 bulls out of one drainage in a 5 day time period??? :chuckle: Are there even that many tags given out total??
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Post by: _TONY_ on July 29, 2013, 09:21:55 PM: Quote from: riverghost638 on July 29, 2013, 08:57:30 PM
To be honest i like wolves about as much as i like master hunters.We decided on the wolfpack because of what they can do to an area.the packs intentions is to leave no bulls for the local master hunters in elk area 6064

Ya, I'm sure that's the reason, and greed has nothing to do with it...
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Post by: shrek on July 29, 2013, 09:30:06 PM: They're not ready wolfpack....
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Post by: sirmissalot on July 29, 2013, 09:30:31 PM: I literally just LOLed. That was good, one man wolfpack.
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Post by: SemperFidelis97 on July 29, 2013, 09:33:50 PM: Why do I get the sense that when Riverghost posts his pics on his successful hunts with the wolfpack they will involve more male bone than elk bone.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: kirkl on July 29, 2013, 09:36:15 PM: Quote from: SemperFidelis97 on July 29, 2013, 09:33:50 PM
Why do I get the sense that when Riverghost posts his pics on his successful hunts with the wolfpack they will involve more male bone than elk bone.
Lmao, no kiddin huh. Squeal like a pig boy, im in the wolfpack. Listen to my banjo playin.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: _TONY_ on July 29, 2013, 09:36:52 PM: Is big dog in your wolfpack?
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Post by: shrek on July 29, 2013, 09:39:18 PM: Shut your yap or post pics. Unless ya got something to worry about..
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Post by: coachcw on July 29, 2013, 09:41:11 PM: He must be billdos brother ! :chuckle:
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Post by: coachcw on July 29, 2013, 10:00:20 PM: I'm not a friend of the master hunter program but your attitude about killing all the bulls in the valley so others wont sounds very tribal to me , pretty good way to score points on here . :bdid:
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Post by: coachcw on July 29, 2013, 10:07:00 PM: might aswell since it sounds like the same ethics are in play . heck you make billdo look like a piker .
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Post by: Bob33 on July 29, 2013, 10:16:05 PM: :o
Quote from: riverghost638 on July 29, 2013, 09:42:23 PM
i knew the name wolfpack would fireup a bunch of people.lol master hunters for sure
It appears that most on here think you're pathetic with your posts, and by contrast you've made master hunters look to be quite a bit above your motley pack. Thanks for doing them a favor.
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Post by: ellensburgpo on July 29, 2013, 10:35:26 PM: Bout sums up this thread...

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Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: coachcw on July 30, 2013, 06:21:18 AM: I know that there are some tribal members on here that are stewards of the land and more ethical than many non tribal hunters , for that I apologize for my comment in the above post , I guess this dush pushed my buttons last night aswelll as the whiskey . Please forgive me !
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: trophyhunt on July 30, 2013, 06:29:57 AM: Quote from: coachcw on July 30, 2013, 06:21:18 AM
I know that there are some tribal members on here that are stewards of the land and more ethical than many non tribal hunters , for that I apologize for my comment in the above post , I guess this dush pushed my buttons last night aswelll as the whiskey . Please forgive me !
You shouldn't have to apologize, most on here should know by now that just like everything in life it's always the bad apples that mess it up or give others a bad name. I will always hate what rights (wrongs) the indians have and I will always concider them a thorn in our wildlife's side BUT I do know that some do have respect for the land, fish and animals. I would think the good one's know your comments are not aimed towards them.
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Post by: coachcw on July 30, 2013, 06:36:53 AM: Under stood but still out of line on my part . two pricks just make more pricklets ! lol . I've made friends with a few tribal guys on here and for them my apologly was required .
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: coachcw on July 30, 2013, 08:08:11 AM: He was here one day and gone the next :tup:
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Kowsrule30 on July 30, 2013, 11:30:21 AM: The Wolfpack Master of the Valley Floor has deleted all his post's.. Damn shame... This thread had potential for a real beheading... :chuckle: What a loser...
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Curly on July 30, 2013, 12:04:18 PM: He was probably just drinking heavily last night and when he saw his posts this morning he realized how bad his posts sounded. :twocents:
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: trophyhunt on July 30, 2013, 12:14:10 PM: Quote from: Curly on July 30, 2013, 12:04:18 PM
He was probably just drinking heavily last night and when he saw his posts this morning he realized how bad his posts sounded. :twocents:
:chuckle: I have to say I've been there before!!
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Post by: coachcw on July 30, 2013, 12:48:55 PM: I know I was :chuckle:
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: mrgoodwrench on July 30, 2013, 10:40:28 PM: I'm confused, I missed his posts. WDFW quit the MH hunt in the Quinault a few years ago anyway...
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on July 30, 2013, 11:57:58 PM: Quote from: mrgoodwrench on July 30, 2013, 10:40:28 PM
I'm confused, I missed his posts. WDFW quit the MH hunt in the Quinault a few years ago anyway...

Wrong. From the regs.........

Modern Firearm - Nov 2-13 3 pt or better (Units 407, 460, 466, 503, 505-520, 506a, 530ad, 550, 560, 568, 572, 574, 578d, 601-618, 624 (except for Elk Area 6071), 627–633,
638–652, 654–684d. Except master hunters only in Elk Area 6064

Elk Area 6064 - That portion of GMU 638 (Quinault) within the Quinault River
watershed east of Gatton Creek and Lake Quinault excluding US
Forest Service (USFS) Colonel Bob Wilderness Area
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: billythekidrock on July 31, 2013, 05:23:43 AM: Quote from: mrgoodwrench on July 30, 2013, 10:40:28 PM
I'm confused, I missed his posts. WDFW quit the MH hunt in the Quinault a few years ago anyway...

Only the MH bull permit hunt was eliminated.
Title: Re: quinault bull tag
Post by: mrgoodwrench on July 31, 2013, 07:48:17 PM: Quote from: billythekidrock on July 31, 2013, 05:23:43 AM
Quote from: mrgoodwrench on July 30, 2013, 10:40:28 PM
I'm confused, I missed his posts. WDFW quit the MH hunt in the Quinault a few years ago anyway...

Only the MH bull permit hunt was eliminated.

The bull permit is what I was referring to.