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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: Naches Sportsman on June 21, 2013, 08:38:37 PM
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Just wondering. I look at them everyday before work and when i am at the office during my lunch break....
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Just wondering. I look at them everyday before work and when i am at the office during my lunch break....
Pics please 8)
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there's two or three 170's in there !
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Hi Naches,
I managed to get lucky enough to pull a tag in Cleman A. Drew it with 14 pts since my Dad started putting me in when I was 13. I've never been able to hunt one of the "exotics" so I figured I jump on here to try do as much homework as I can before I start scouting. Hopefully I'll pull a good ram but more than anything i'm just excited for the opportunity.
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Several very good rams in that unit, but they are not where everybody thinks they are. Don't fall into the "waterworks" trap.
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Hi Naches,
I managed to get lucky enough to pull a tag in Cleman A. Drew it with 14 pts since my Dad started putting me in when I was 13. I've never been able to hunt one of the "exotics" so I figured I jump on here to try do as much homework as I can before I start scouting. Hopefully I'll pull a good ram but more than anything i'm just excited for the opportunity.
You should hire Norsepeak as a guide.
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Way to go Cody! your dad is "the man" when it comes to good tags! Do your home work and you wil find a good one.
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your young with good legs I'd et on top and hike and glass every canyon from the top of Stanford east to the wenas road . I saw some sheep in the top of Benton creek last year but you should be able to find a shooter further east . It's a good idea to contact norspeak , this is your oil make it count you only get on chance at this . I will post a pic Monday of what your looking for .
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btw does anyone know if blue ear tag # 417 is still around ? that ram had really good bases At 5 1/2. he should be 8 1/2 now . I'd check with the bio to see if he's been harvested . # 408 is a 170class ram but not sure if he's still around he'd be 10-12 years old he is very broomed .
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Thanks for the tip Coach, its much appreciated!
Hey Danny, Thanks! I've been telling my Dad to go buy some lotto tickets the way he's been getting drawn lately!
TheHunt- I'd love to hire a guide but those funds left my wallet months ago since im getting married in Sept (before the hunt luckily!) My Dad and I will be doing as much legwork as we can, I'm just trying to absorb everything I can so that I make the most of this hunt.
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btw does anyone know if blue ear tag # 417 is still around ? that ram had really good bases At 5 1/2. he should be 8 1/2 now . I'd check with the bio to see if he's been harvested . # 408 is a 170class ram but not sure if he's still around he'd be 10-12 years old he is very broomed .
I'd have to check pics from this last winter. :dunno: Memory isn't what it used to be.
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second from the left.
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I got some good pics of some very nice rams that are shooters but they're on a flashdrive so it will be awhile before I could post. I spoke witha bio and couple gammies last year and they menrioned there was only a couple of rams with ear tags left up there. Have fun and be picky.
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Thanks for the pic Norsepeak, looks like a beauty!
I got some good pics of some very nice rams that are shooters but they're on a flashdrive so it will be awhile before I could post. I spoke witha bio and couple gammies last year and they menrioned there was only a couple of rams with ear tags left up there. Have fun and be picky.
Any pics would be awesome! Thanks!
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Just wondering. I look at them everyday before work and when i am at the office during my lunch break....
My buddy drew the late tag. Ill have him pick your brain
KLICKMAN
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Thanks for the pic Norsepeak, looks like a beauty!
I got some good pics of some very nice rams that are shooters but they're on a flashdrive so it will be awhile before I could post. I spoke witha bio and couple gammies last year and they menrioned there was only a couple of rams with ear tags left up there. Have fun and be picky.
Any pics would be awesome! Thanks!
I believe I posted some pics in a previous thread ealier this year in "clemans sheep" thread or something similar? Either way I know at least 3 rams that would go upper 160's or low 170's aside from the 2 ear tagged ones still up there. Ill try and get them posted soon.
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a 170class clemans ram
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Thanks Plateau!
You take that one coach? That thing is AWESOME :drool: And thanks indirectly for all the info you posted in another forum from last year, great info, helps a TON!
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I shot the oldest ram in the unit a few years ago, 13 1/2.good charctor but was a 160 ram . I passed on a 172 ram that got shot the next day by a guy that wasn't very mobile . this ram was a ram that the raffle tag holder shot two years ago . I helped him out . we saw a group of five nice rams this ram was the only non broomed one . he went right at 172. the boomer might have scored a hair bigger, you need to see at least two angles the easyiest for me is the side , look for a ram that drops bellow his jaw on the inside of his curl.
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Here is the 172 ram that Coach is talking about.
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WOW! thats Awesome!
Thanks for that Coach! Ive been trying to figure out the best way to judge them.
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Here is the 172 ram that Coach is talking about.
Still has his lamb tips, nice looking ram.
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WOW! thats Awesome!
Thanks for that Coach! Ive been trying to figure out the best way to judge them.
The best way to learn how to judge sheep is to get into a taxidermist that has 5 or 6 different rams with known scores so you can compare them. Do not shoot a ram that you have only seen from the rear. They ALL look big.
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WOW! thats Awesome!
Thanks for that Coach! Ive been trying to figure out the best way to judge them.
Do not shoot a ram that you have only seen from the rear. They ALL look big.
But if you see one like this just shoot. :chuckle:
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You need to make a trip over and see ric's shop . :tup:
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WOW! thats Awesome!
Thanks for that Coach! Ive been trying to figure out the best way to judge them.
Do not shoot a ram that you have only seen from the rear. They ALL look big.
But if you see one like this just shoot. :chuckle:
:yeah:
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Here is the 172 ram that Coach is talking about.
That is an incredible ram.
He has everything!
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we thaught he'd score low because of the lamb tips but figured he would look good on the wall .
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Coach
I am a big fan of the lamb tips. When I hunted for Dalls in Alaska I had 2 rams in my scope. One was a heavy horned ram with his left horn broken. I chose my full curl. He just had that look I was looking for.
Someday I pray I get a chance to put a Washington ram next to him. :)
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Coach
I am a big fan of the lamb tips. When I hunted for Dalls in Alaska I had 2 rams in my scope. One was a heavy horned ram with his left horn broken. I chose my full curl. He just had that look I was looking for.
Someday I pray I get a chance to put a Washington ram next to him. :)
Maybe if you started tithing it might happen :chuckle:
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Love the pics guys, thanks!
Hopefully i'll get a few of my own this weekend...
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Coach
I am a big fan of the lamb tips. When I hunted for Dalls in Alaska I had 2 rams in my scope. One was a heavy horned ram with his left horn broken. I chose my full curl. He just had that look I was looking for.
Someday I pray I get a chance to put a Washington ram next to him. :)
Maybe if you started tithing it might happen :chuckle:
:chuckle: You two are funny.
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Coach
I am a big fan of the lamb tips. When I hunted for Dalls in Alaska I had 2 rams in my scope. One was a heavy horned ram with his left horn broken. I chose my full curl. He just had that look I was looking for.
Someday I pray I get a chance to put a Washington ram next to him. :)
Maybe if you started tithing it might happen :chuckle
Benny
Everyone's a comedian!😜
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WOW! thats Awesome!
Thanks for that Coach! Ive been trying to figure out the best way to judge them.
The best way to learn how to judge sheep is to get into a taxidermist that has 5 or 6 different rams with known scores so you can compare them. Do not shoot a ram that you have only seen from the rear. They ALL look big.
:yeah:
That's what I did when I drew the Tieton tag in '09. Ric had 5 or 6 rams in his shop when I drew my tag. Went and looked at them and just studied a lot of different pictures of rams on the internet. I killed a low 160's, 8-1/2 year old ram that had a lot of character and a beautiful cape. Hard to believe all his descendents are dead now. :ACRY: It's all about what your after but it's a hunt you will never forget. Just have fun with it. :tup:
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:yeah:
That's what I did when I drew the Tieton tag in '09. Ric had 5 or 6 rams in his shop when I drew my tag. Went and looked at them and just studied a lot of different pictures of rams on the internet. I killed a low 160's, 8-1/2 year old ram that had a lot of character and a beautiful cape. Hard to believe all his descendents are dead now. :ACRY: It's all about what your after but it's a hunt you will never forget. Just have fun with it. :tup:
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Thats my plan Pat, I'm hoping to get something in the 160's, it sounds like they're there. I'm just excited to get the opportunity and to start the scouting process this weekend, even though i might melt doing it....97 over there on saturday lol.
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Pat
Please post a pick of your ram.
Thx
Bryan
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This is 161 and change from last season in Tieton.
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Thx NP
Nice ram. That looks like some rough country!
Great pick. Thx
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Several years ago...
Fantastic hunt!!
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So awesome! I'm jealous Cook! You'll have a blast!
MS
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Falcon, it was a brutal hunt. We started hiking at daylight and got back to the truck around 11p.m. It was hot, we ran out of water around noon, but we did it in one day and nailed this guy. It was very fun though, would do it again in a heart beat, and the client was extremely happy too.
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Hold out and be picky because the one I know green scored at 165 and there were 3 others bigger than that one still there and the largest one I seen was big as the 170's one posted earlier so take your time and really scout and be happy with the one you get because they are truly remarkable animals and worth the wait.
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has anyone seen a blue ear tag ram lately on clemans ?
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Hold out and be picky because the one I know green scored at 165 and there were 3 others bigger than that one still there and the largest one I seen was big as the 170's one posted earlier so take your time and really scout and be happy with the one you get because they are truly remarkable animals and worth the wait.
Thats great to know Plateau! I'm going to put in as much time scouting as I can. Hopefully ill be able to locate one of em!
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Several years ago...
Fantastic hunt!!
Jager,
I remember your write up and picks.
What a great ram!!!!
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Several years ago...
Fantastic hunt!!
Jager,
I remember your write up and picks.
What a great ram!!!!
+1 :tup:
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Clemans Nov 2007
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That is a beauty. Do you have a strait on pic of him as well?
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Here is a side view , don't have any thing on the computer from the front
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My kind of ram, just beautiful. You have him scored by chance. Not that it matters but always try to learn from pictures.
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My kind of ram, just beautiful. You have him scored by chance. Not that it matters but always try to learn from pictures.
+1 :tup:
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btw does anyone know if blue ear tag # 417 is still around ? that ram had really good bases At 5 1/2. he should be 8 1/2 now . I'd check with the bio to see if he's been harvested . # 408 is a 170class ram but not sure if he's still around he'd be 10-12 years old he is very broomed .
Here is 408. Not sure he's 170 class but he's old if alive. I haven't seen him in a while.
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I went scouting up there for the first time yesterday, ran some of the roads, just kind of trying to get familiar with the area. Poked around there a little bit and saw what looked like a couple of decent rams. One had its lamb tips but was making a good curl, the other was this guy. The one bedded down. Broomed and pretty heavy.
There were 9 total in the group and you could tell this guy was the alpha and easily the oldest Sorry for the crappy pics...cell phone through the spotting scope...
Anybody have a good scoring eye off of three crappy pics lol?
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150" or so. Keep looking...
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look for a group of rams with one packing a collar . that collar on 408 is new sinc I saw him a couple of years ago inless he lost it before I saw him . I flung a arrow right over his back on a steep down hill shot ! no doubt he has a bunch of sons up there .
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Thanks Pope!
Coach - We were looking thats for sure. It started getting hot..then it monsooned on us so we didnt get to hike around as much as we wanted too. Needless to say it was a weird day over there.... Between the weather, dodging rattlers and finding out that a bunch of those roads are closed to vehicles, im just glad we saw a few rams lol.
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There's at two that I seen that are larger than than the one in your pic and larger than 408 so keep your hopes up. The one I seen harvested green scored 165 and the other two were larger than him. Have fun and get'em! :tup:
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Start counting the growth rings through your optics. You'll see that probably all of those rams in that picture are 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 years old. You want to try and find the guys that are 7 1/2 plus.
Start at the tip and count up, the lamb tip is 1 1/2, next segment is 2 1/2, and so on.
Caribou Creek's is a 7 1/2 year old ram and I'd guess he would score in the 165-170" range. A very nice ram for sure.
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I was also lucky in the draw, I was on a fire assignment in AK when the draw came out and just am getting a chance to post! I still am shocked that I actually drew the tag. Congrats to cook for the draw also. I grew up staring at that mountain from our living room and now I get to hunt sheep on it, it's gonna be a blast!
WACAT
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I was also lucky in the draw, I was on a fire assignment in AK when the draw came out and just am getting a chance to post! I still am shocked that I actually drew the tag. Congrats to cook for the draw also. I grew up staring at that mountain from our living room and now I get to hunt sheep on it, it's gonna be a blast!
WACAT
Welcome back. Oh so you do know where it is... :chuckle: Its gonna be sweet
KLICKMAN
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Several years ago...
Fantastic hunt!!
Is that yours Dan?
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Congrats to you as well Wacat! You hunting the early or the late tag?
General question for the Cleman experts out there. The unit is bigger this year than it was in the past (they extended west) anybody know anything about the western past of the unit? Looks more like goat country to me but I figure they must have extended it for a reason....
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I saw some sheep last winter in rock creek , but I'd focus on the east end :tup:
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150" or so. Keep looking...
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That's a young ram with great potential but like Pope said "keep looking"!
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You have the chance for a truly incredible hunt. There is lots of good info here. coachcw helped me on a great hunt 2 years ago for the ram elkstuffer mounted and posted a picture of. He did an exceptional job on the mount and I recommend him highly. Coachcw has hunted sheep here a couple of times so can tell you the lay of the land. They both know the area and can give you plenty of info on how to approach your hunt. Be ready to bust your ass for a hunt of a life time. Make sure you see as many heads as you can prior to the hunt so you have an idea what big is. Do not be overly anxious about shooting the first decent ram you see.
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Wow finally got drawn for Clemens and now am some what dis abaled.
Tag is for B Nov.2-30 and do not know the area although have been to the feeding station many times.
Any help will welcome.
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Id be over there two to three days early and watch the sheep and set your sights on one or two.
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Sorry guys, its been a busy month for me so im just getting around to posting. I was able to fill my tag with a ram that I am absolutely thrilled with. First and foremost I want to thank coachcw and elkstuffer (Ric @ All Thats Wild Taxidermy) for the great info on the area and the areas to really check out. Great guys with great advice! I was able to scout the area pretty well with the information they gave me although I was only able to make it over twice during July and August due to my wedding on Sept 7th.
On the second scouting trip, I was glassing some rams off in the distance and my fiance spotted a group of 4 rams about 450 yrs out. I got the spotting scope on them and noticed that the biggest in the group had a #400 ear tag. I looked at my fiance and told her if I could shoot right now, i would. I took the pic I got down to Ric and he essentially gave me the green light on shooting him if I saw him during the season. After that scout i couldnt have been more excited. That was the ram I wanted.
On Sept 10th I headed for Hawaii on my honeymoon and didnt get back until the 16th so obviously i had to miss the opener and decided to hunt on the first weekend instead. By the time my dad and I got over there on the 19th, all but 1 other tag had been filled....
We hunted the 20th through the 22nd, the first day we sat on a pretty nice ram and tried to move in but got stuck in the open and spooked them from about 450yrds. The second day was HELL. My dad and I dropped down into waterworks about 1/2 way to the road and decided to push it back up. We got a few pretty nice rams but I couldnt get a good angle to figure out just how nice. We hoofed it back to the top and on the last hill climb, looked up and saw #400 and his 3 buddies hanging out on a ridgetop. We were only about 350yrds or so but there was about 15 min until dark and after that days hike....I wasnt about to chase a ram over the next mountain. As we walked out I kept looking back to see what the rams were doing. Right before it got too dark to see, they bedded.
That night we were defeated. I was hurting so I knew my Dad was too at age 57, but he kept up the whole time, even with a cold!
The next morning we drove out to a spot I wanted to sit in the morning. The wind wasnt in our favor so my dad suggested we move down the ridge. On the way there I stopped to glass where the rams had bedded. They were there. We were going to come over the top of them.
We couldnt have planned it any better. As we crept over the top, I looked down and didnt see the rams, I turn to tell my dad we needed to move down the ridge and he was looking past me and whispered "theres one looking right at us...." I turned back around and had a set of eyes at 150 yrds but it wasnt #400. They couldnt smell us and the sentry ram started to move to my left and I crouched and waited. About 10 seconds later, another ram walked into view, then he turned and showed off that #400 earring and I pulled the trigger.
The pack out was rough...since, of course, he had to slide damn near to the bottom of waterworks... but my dad and I did the whole thing by ourselves, and I'm damn proud of that. My dad started putting me in for these OIL tags when I was 13yrs old, I drew the tag with 14pts. This truly was a OIL tag and I couldnt be happier with the ram I took or the fact that I was able to hunt it with my dad.
He scored out to about 158 and was 7.5 or 8.5 years old. I'm going to place a call to the game dept in yakima soon enough to get any more info they may have on #400.
Thanks again for all the info you guys gave me. If anyone hunting the late hunt has any questions, I'll be happy to tell you what I saw out there.
-Cody
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Congrats to you on your ram and a great hunt with your dad.
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Congratulations! Great story and nice ram!
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Nice ram :drool: Congrats
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Great Ram!!! Coach and Elkstuffer are great people...
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Cody, great photos and story
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Another beautiful clemans ram. :tup:
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:tup: sheep hunting is a blast !
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Awesome! Congrats on a great ram! I just saw some nice rams up there while ML elk hunting this last week. I don't envy your pack out!
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Awesome!!! :tup:
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Congrats.
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Congrats and cool story, always awesome to be able to hunt with your Dad.