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Big Game Hunting => Backcountry Hunting => Topic started by: Olympics777 on June 27, 2013, 01:43:34 PM

Title: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: Olympics777 on June 27, 2013, 01:43:34 PM: I am considering using a tarp instead of a tent for overnight hunting trips in an effort to get my packs base weight under 15 pounds( it is 18 right now ). Does anyone have suggestions on cheap tarps to buy, or ways to use them?
Title: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: THunt on June 27, 2013, 01:49:11 PM: I just make a lean to with one of the cheap blue tarps. It kept me dry in a downpour last year.
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 27, 2013, 01:57:22 PM: Cheap or long lasting?
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: MikeWalking on June 27, 2013, 02:42:20 PM: I bought some of the cammo tarps at Freddies, got a few summers out of them before they started leaking where folded. I've got one of the brown/green numbers that has lasted pretty well. They're all about the same price.

One lesson learned was to A-Frame it over a good rope or heavy cord. The grommets tend to pull out pretty easily when stressed. I started duct taping the grommets and poking holes through the tape to avoid that.
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: Tim in Wa. on June 27, 2013, 07:45:35 PM: The grommets last allot longer if you pull the looped core through it and put a stick through the loop
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Post by: Johnb317 on June 27, 2013, 07:51:25 PM: Depending on the tarp I'd say a tent might be the same or lighter especially after carrying all the extra line etc to tie it up. Some of the one man tents are extremely light.
Tarps are made of heavier material for abuse...
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: ICEMAN on June 27, 2013, 08:18:16 PM: Go with a nylon tarp, not a polyethylene one!

Nylon will last you your lifetime, are tough and light.

I used to buy mine from REI, but did not locate any for you to check out.

Here is a link to one at Campmor. (Reputable online store)

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___22220 (http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___22220)
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: romaknows on June 27, 2013, 08:39:01 PM: Check out the mountain shelter made by mountainsmith .
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Post by: snowpack on June 27, 2013, 08:45:06 PM: You can also get a sheet from a bed and spray it a few times with camp dry. Just give it plenty of drying time (airing time) before trying to sleep near it.
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: Fl0und3rz on June 27, 2013, 08:56:25 PM: Not cheap, but Interal Designs SilTarps are pretty light, durable, and water resistant. Pitch with poles, a ridgeline, or otherwise.
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: Olympics777 on June 28, 2013, 07:16:05 PM: Thanks for the advice. I was thinking of cheap more than long lasting, next year I think I'll by perhaps a Kifaru tarp for something long lasting. I just need an inexpensive one for this early fall. I know that some of the nice Backpacking tents are extremely lightweight, but I don't have 400 dollars to spend on a nice one. Using a fly off of a tent is a good idea...
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: MLHSN on June 28, 2013, 07:21:51 PM: I made one of these with about $75 worth of materials.

Here's the plans:

http://www.tarptent.com/projects/tt2photos.html (http://www.tarptent.com/projects/tt2photos.html)

Mine fits 2 people and weighs 1.5 lbs (including tyvek sheet to put pad on). It has bug netting which is a big plus for me.
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: Olympics777 on June 28, 2013, 07:32:47 PM: That is a great looking tarp tent, could you possibly list the needed materials? I only saw pictures, but no actual plans. The nice thing about making my own is that I could modify it if I want to. How can you make grommets in tyvekk without it ripping out?
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: MLHSN on June 28, 2013, 11:06:04 PM: Quote from: Olympics777 on June 28, 2013, 07:32:47 PM
That is a great looking tarp tent, could you possibly list the needed materials? I only saw pictures, but no actual plans. The nice thing about making my own is that I could modify it if I want to. How can you make grommets in tyvekk without it ripping out?

The tent is actually made out of Silnylon. I sewed in reinforcement on the corners with webbing and then bunch the grommets into the crisscrossed webbing.

Here is the link with the actual design.
http://www.tarptent.com/projects/tarpdesign.html (http://www.tarptent.com/projects/tarpdesign.html)

Here is it pitched up Wolf Creek.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7116%2F7870031602_3ebb3a570a_b.jpg&hash=727f7c1f7b51e4ee0def8e771d3226ef64c0bcd5) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20209691@N05/7870031602/)
tent (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20209691@N05/7870031602/#) by mlhsn1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/20209691@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: MLHSN on June 28, 2013, 11:07:52 PM: As far as the Tyvek, I just cut a piece a little bigger then my sleeping bag for a groundcloth. The tent is basically floorless. The bug netting on the sides is long and I just put rocks and some of my gear around the perimeter of the bug netting to keeping the critters and bugs out.
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: MikeWalking on June 29, 2013, 05:14:06 PM: Quote from: Tim in Wa. on June 27, 2013, 07:45:35 PM
The grommets last allot longer if you pull the looped core through it and put a stick through the loop

:tup: Next up on the Try It List.
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: Olympics777 on June 29, 2013, 11:32:03 PM: Thanks for the tarptent suggestion, after reading about it I just HAVE to have one. I looks like it would offer pretty good protection for the weight, and it does not look terribly hard to make. Thanks!!!!
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: JustinC on July 04, 2013, 02:03:11 PM: This is what I'll be using this year.
Zpacks Hexamid solo plus cuben fiber tarp
Xtherm pad
Tigoat bivy
Zpacks 30* quilt.

The whole setup weighs 2 lbs 11 oz.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi393.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp18%2FJustincrossley_album%2FRandom%2F20130412_182233_zpsff5aa454.jpg&hash=d4217642016a3385a7f83dd0747538781413ada5) (http://s393.photobucket.com/user/Justincrossley_album/media/Random/20130412_182233_zpsff5aa454.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: HawkCreek on July 05, 2013, 08:16:32 AM: Bushcraft Outfitters makes some great tarps for better prices that most other places I've seen on the internet. I have several of their "regular" line made out of ripstop and couldnt be happier. Not long ago they introduced an "ultra light" version made out of silnylon that a lot of guys are raving about. The silnylon 10x10 loosely packs down to the size of a Nalgene bottle and only weights about a pound. They are a little over $100 for the larger tarps if my memory is working right this morning.
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Post by: boneaddict on July 05, 2013, 08:43:51 AM: I have two versions, one is a tent fly which works better in heavy weather and the other is one made out of parachute, which is lighter.
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Post by: acnewman55 on July 09, 2013, 02:26:44 PM: Smokin hot deals on the clymb right now for Nemo tarps.

They're a great brand - popular with hard-core backpacking community.

http://bit.ly/12BVypU (http://bit.ly/12BVypU)
Title: Re: Backpacking tarp...
Post by: Labs07 on July 15, 2013, 12:12:06 PM: You could use 8 panels from a parashoot or two rain ponchos snaped together. Then just make your shelter