Post by: kerrdog on July 07, 2013, 09:18:21 AM
But that sucker is heavy. Is it a 'must-have' item, or a belt-weight? Anybody got a story where they were glad they had a backup handgun?
Post by: TheFewTheProud on July 07, 2013, 09:22:08 AM
Post by: jrebel on July 07, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
Post by: npaull on July 07, 2013, 10:07:59 AM
Post by: CP on July 07, 2013, 10:11:51 AM
Post by: Bob33 on July 07, 2013, 10:14:59 AM
There are items that would be of far greater survival value than a handgun: satellite phone, well stocked first aid kit, etc.
That said you really don't need to ask for anyone's opinion: if you want to carry and it makes you feel safer, then there's your answer. :twocents:
Post by: woodman on July 07, 2013, 10:21:46 AM
Statistically, it's impossible to argue that it makes sense to carry it at all. So, the decision is going to be an emotional one. Do what makes you feel better.
I am not sure what npaull is saying here about making sense to carry one at all. I never go into the woods without a weapon due to experiences I have had. I have killed a very large cougar at 30' and closing straight in on me in the past in self defense. I also have killed a bear that dressed out at 360 pounds 20' from me that came out of the brush just about right on top of me while deer hunting. I have pictures of these animals. I have had to fire a round into the ground to scare a bear that was constantly closing in on me while hiking. The old wave the arms and yell at it did nothing at all to deter it.
I believe that the more you enter the outdoors, the more you up your odds of having one of these encounters. Kind of like buying more raffle tickets. If you buy one ticket you have low odds, buy more tickets and your odds increase. If you ever see me in the outdoors just know that I am packing something, not because of something that I read somewhere, but because of what actually happened to me out there.
Post by: woodman on July 07, 2013, 10:27:33 AM
The odds of being harmed in Washington by a wild critter are close to 0.
I would say that this statement is not true. I know of people that have had to shoot in self defense, myself included. There is a member on this site that was airlifted to a major hospital in Seattle due to being ripped into shreds by a bear in the woods. He has some pretty major scars on his body to prove it but is very humble about it and really doesn't seem to like to talk about it. Not all animals act the same.
Post by: RadSav on July 07, 2013, 10:32:15 AM
Post by: Bob33 on July 07, 2013, 10:48:07 AM
"Close to 0". Yes you could be attacked. You could also be struck by lightning or bit by a snake. The odds are small compared to the odds of being hit by another driver to/from the hunt.The odds of being harmed in Washington by a wild critter are close to 0.
I would say that this statement is not true. I know of people that have had to shoot in self defense, myself included. There is a member on this site that was airlifted to a major hospital in Seattle due to being ripped into shreds by a bear in the woods. He has some pretty major scars on his body to prove it but is very humble about it and really doesn't seem to like to talk about it. Not all animals act the same.
"If you want to carry and it makes you feel safer, then there's your answer."
Post by: woodman on July 07, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
"Close to 0". Yes you could be attacked. You could also be struck by lightning or bit by a snake. The odds are small compared to the odds of being hit by another driver to/from the hunt.The odds of being harmed in Washington by a wild critter are close to 0.
I would say that this statement is not true. I know of people that have had to shoot in self defense, myself included. There is a member on this site that was airlifted to a major hospital in Seattle due to being ripped into shreds by a bear in the woods. He has some pretty major scars on his body to prove it but is very humble about it and really doesn't seem to like to talk about it. Not all animals act the same.
"If you want to carry and it makes you feel safer, then there's your answer."
Go hiking in a lightning storm and I bet that your odds of being hit increase. I never have been hit by another driver while heading to any hunt that I have been on. I have been challenged by wild animal while in their environment. I think that if you have not, that would explain your point of view. It happens and I really wonder how many have deterred an attack because they were armed and it was not reported for people to know about. As far as snakes go, why do people wear boots and leg protectants while in snake country?
Post by: snowpack on July 07, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
Post by: jrebel on July 07, 2013, 11:43:46 AM
There are multiple reasons one should carry while in the woods:
1. Meth Lab
2. Marijuana Grow
3. Dirt Bag
4. Bear, cougar, wolf
5. Survival after being injured
6. Signaling after being injured or lost
7. Gun powder makes great fire starter
8. Piece of Mind
Please add if I forgot anything...but 8 reasons is enough for me to have mine. Still will probably never need it, but if I do...I will have it.
Post by: woodman on July 07, 2013, 11:51:57 AM
I don't understand everyones reasoning here..... I also conceal carry durring every day life, knowing that I will likely never have to use it. However!!!! if I need it to defend myself, I want it. If I need it and don't have it....I may be as good as dead. The same applies for when I am hunting or hiking.
There are multiple reasons one should carry while in the woods:
1. Meth Lab
2. Marijuana Grow
3. Dirt Bag
4. Bear, cougar, wolf
5. Survival after being injured
6. Signaling after being injured or lost
7. Gun powder makes great fire starter
8. Piece of Mind
Please add if I forgot anything...but 8 reasons is enough for me to have mine. Still will probably never need it, but if I do...I will have it.
I think this is very well put. I would be interested in seeing the list of why not too carry.
Post by: BigD on July 07, 2013, 12:25:18 PM
I don't understand everyones reasoning here..... I also conceal carry durring every day life, knowing that I will likely never have to use it. However!!!! if I need it to defend myself, I want it. If I need it and don't have it....I may be as good as dead. The same applies for when I am hunting or hiking.
There are multiple reasons one should carry while in the woods:
1. Meth Lab
2. Marijuana Grow
3. Dirt Bag
4. Bear, cougar, wolf
5. Survival after being injured
6. Signaling after being injured or lost
7. Gun powder makes great fire starter
8. Piece of Mind
Please add if I forgot anything...but 8 reasons is enough for me to have mine. Still will probably never need it, but if I do...I will have it.
I think this is very well put. I would be interested in seeing the list of why not too carry.
Hunting with a rifle is the only reason I can think of.
Post by: Angus on July 08, 2013, 08:52:46 PM
If I have another run in with him or any close friends of his I'm standing my ground and introducing him to "my little friend", don't go anywhere without my SP 101 .327 mag.
I was over a mile from the nearest house and not on private property.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 08, 2013, 08:55:30 PM
Post by: dawhunt on July 09, 2013, 05:28:36 AM
Bob
Post by: Plainswalker on July 09, 2013, 08:28:58 AM
Of course, being a former boyscout and possessing a CCW, if it is legal to carry it there, my little "equalizer" goes with me ;)
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 09, 2013, 08:53:06 AM
-Steve
Post by: jaymark6655 on July 09, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Post by: bobcat on July 09, 2013, 09:04:06 AM
Now if I'm just going for a hike, especially if I have my little girls with me, then I may carry my 9mm.
But while hunting, no. One gun is enough, in my opinion.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 09, 2013, 01:00:44 PM
When I'm hunting, 99.9% of the time I won't be carrying a handgun. I feel the weapon I already have in my hands is enough protection for any situation that may arise. I don't feel the extra weight is worth it.It's not always about protection. But I have arrived back at my truck after dusk to see 5 guys drinkin and such in the bed of my truck. They were not exactly kind when I asked them to get out.
So.. Many years ago I was making my way through some thick young alders on a trail that was about 2' tall.... It was what was left of an old overgrown skidder road. On my left was a drop down a couple hundred feet to a swamp. To my right an incline. It was extremely thick with brush but I was making my way, one half step at a time. To my left below I heard a critter coming up. There was no discernable trail that I could make out since I couldn't see but a few feet ahead. The wind was in my favor as a Blacktail buck came up and just passed within four feet of me to the level ground and stopped. He knew something was up, but couldn't see or smell me yet. There was no way in the world I could have moved the rifle (held right handed, muzzle pointing the wrong direction since I couldn't really figure out where this guy was going to end up), to put the irons on a kill zone without that buck spooking. I did manage to draw my pistola with right hand and put a disabling shot in him at 5' or so. The shoulder holster is sheepskin lined and very quiet to draw from. Without the handgun, I doubt very much that I'd have harvested that deer. That said, I have killed more deer with handgun than with rifle, but I still take my rifle most times.
-Steve
Post by: bobcat on July 09, 2013, 01:14:50 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 09, 2013, 01:23:13 PM
That said, If it was legal to carry while Muzzle load hunting, I'd still probably have one with me. Might not be the big 44 or a heavy 1911, but if Grouse was open, I'd rather pop a birdie with a pistola than burn powder form the smoke pole.
-Steve
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 01:29:58 PM
The odds of being harmed in Washington by a wild critter are close to 0. Humans, perhaps but I can't recall reading of a hunter being intentionally harmed by another human in Washington.:tup:
There are items that would be of far greater survival value than a handgun: satellite phone, well stocked first aid kit, etc.
That said you really don't need to ask for anyone's opinion: if you want to carry and it makes you feel safer, then there's your answer. :twocents:
Good 13oz can of Bear Mace, and your good to go IMO. Works on virtually any living creature, including humans, something to where the law enforcement would need to be contact if an incident came about. (Having to blast a bear or person in the face for whatever reason) and Its super lightweight. Irritates/shuts down respiratory system and makes it virtually impossible to do anything or think about doing anything but grab your face and eyes. You could shoot an animal/person and they could still come at ya. :dunno:
Post by: washelkhunter on July 09, 2013, 01:32:31 PM
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
Previous life involving crimes preventing you from owning firearms. You get a little smarter and learn alternative methods instead of just always resorting to a potentially very deadly weapon. Not knocking you guys who carry, That's great. I probably would to If I was allowed to, But Im no longer allowed to have that "false sense of security" to make you feel all high and mighty like alot of people. It helps me actually consciously try to avoid bad situations, and be alittle more careful with what I do, what I say, and how I act. Big plus for me.I don't understand everyones reasoning here..... I also conceal carry durring every day life, knowing that I will likely never have to use it. However!!!! if I need it to defend myself, I want it. If I need it and don't have it....I may be as good as dead. The same applies for when I am hunting or hiking.
There are multiple reasons one should carry while in the woods:
1. Meth Lab
2. Marijuana Grow
3. Dirt Bag
4. Bear, cougar, wolf
5. Survival after being injured
6. Signaling after being injured or lost
7. Gun powder makes great fire starter
8. Piece of Mind
Please add if I forgot anything...but 8 reasons is enough for me to have mine. Still will probably never need it, but if I do...I will have it.
I think this is very well put. I would be interested in seeing the list of why not too carry.
Post by: woodman on July 09, 2013, 01:37:28 PM
OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.
No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.
Post by: Plainswalker on July 09, 2013, 01:42:41 PM
Previous life involving crimes preventing you from owning firearms. You get a little smarter and learn alternative methods instead of just always resorting to a potentially very deadly weapon. Not knocking you guys who carry, That's great. I probably would to If I was allowed to, But Im no longer allowed to have that "false sense of security" to make you feel all high and mighty like alot of people. It helps me actually consciously try to avoid bad situations, and be alittle more careful with what I do, what I say, and how I act. Big plus for me.
I still try to avoid bad situations and be careful. Has nothing to do with feeling high and mighty. It is just that I prefer to be as well armed, if not better, than what I confront that means me ill will.
On the matter of bear spray, downside of it is that if you are injured out in the woods and need assistance, three blasts from a canister of bear spray just makes the surrounding area smell nice and peppery. :o
Post by: washelkhunter on July 09, 2013, 01:43:31 PM
Post by: woodman on July 09, 2013, 01:45:07 PM
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Smossy, I enjoy your posts over time, but your statement about false sense of security is way off base from reality. Wait until you are in a real potentially dangerous situation with a predator that wants to hurt you. Then when you try the wave your arms and holler and it does absolutely nothing, it will rattle you about what people have told you about wild animals.
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 01:51:09 PM
Lol holy crap everyone gets so defensive. Did I say your names specifically? I've seen tons of people. TONS, who act as a firearm is they're god tool. They can do anything, say anything, to whomever they want. Thats not the way to go about doing stuff. To those who are trained and know how to properly handle and shoot firearms that's great. I wish there was more like that.Previous life involving crimes preventing you from owning firearms. You get a little smarter and learn alternative methods instead of just always resorting to a potentially very deadly weapon. Not knocking you guys who carry, That's great. I probably would to If I was allowed to, But Im no longer allowed to have that "false sense of security" to make you feel all high and mighty like alot of people. It helps me actually consciously try to avoid bad situations, and be alittle more careful with what I do, what I say, and how I act. Big plus for me.
I still try to avoid bad situations and be careful. Has nothing to do with feeling high and mighty. It is just that I prefer to be as well armed, if not better, than what I confront that means me ill will.
On the matter of bear spray, downside of it is that if you are injured out in the woods and need assistance, three blasts from a canister of bear spray just makes the surrounding area smell nice and peppery. :o
I was just giving one reason why I don't and cant carry firearms.
And no, it does not really suck to be me, being from where Ive been in my life. Im absolutely blessed. :tup: Thanks though.
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 01:55:01 PM
Lol that made me laugh, That is true. Guess I would just be screwed in that behalf. I do have a 6 pack of chinese firecracker's in my bags though. Why Im not really sure yet, They're a little better then m-80's. I imagine I could use them to start fires, scare away squirrels. Make somewhat loud noises for signaling? They're by no means as loud as a firearm though. Gotta improvise when and where you can.Previous life involving crimes preventing you from owning firearms. You get a little smarter and learn alternative methods instead of just always resorting to a potentially very deadly weapon. Not knocking you guys who carry, That's great. I probably would to If I was allowed to, But Im no longer allowed to have that "false sense of security" to make you feel all high and mighty like alot of people. It helps me actually consciously try to avoid bad situations, and be alittle more careful with what I do, what I say, and how I act. Big plus for me.
I still try to avoid bad situations and be careful. Has nothing to do with feeling high and mighty. It is just that I prefer to be as well armed, if not better, than what I confront that means me ill will.
On the matter of bear spray, downside of it is that if you are injured out in the woods and need assistance, three blasts from a canister of bear spray just makes the surrounding area smell nice and peppery. :o
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 01:57:37 PM
OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed :dunno: Thats why you dont get wimpy cans of bear mace. Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Id rather have that then nothing.
I always think this when people say bullets cant really ricochet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc)
Granted he was shooting iron plates, but still. :chuckle:
No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.
Post by: h20hunter on July 09, 2013, 02:00:45 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
The odds of being harmed in Washington by a wild critter are close to 0. Humans, perhaps but I can't recall reading of a hunter being intentionally harmed by another human in Washington.:tup:
There are items that would be of far greater survival value than a handgun: satellite phone, well stocked first aid kit, etc.
That said you really don't need to ask for anyone's opinion: if you want to carry and it makes you feel safer, then there's your answer. :twocents:
Good 13oz can of Bear Mace, and your good to go IMO. Works on virtually any living creature, including humans, something to where the law enforcement would need to be contact if an incident came about. (Having to blast a bear or person in the face for whatever reason) and Its super lightweight. Irritates/shuts down respiratory system and makes it virtually impossible to do anything or think about doing anything but grab your face and eyes. You could shoot an animal/person and they could still come at ya. :dunno:
What ever makes you feel better about your own personal situation.
Post by: washelkhunter on July 09, 2013, 02:01:55 PM
Post by: woodman on July 09, 2013, 02:02:18 PM
OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed :dunno: Thats why you dont get wimpy cans of bear mace. Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Id rather have that then nothing.
I always think this when people say bullets cant really ricochet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc)
Granted he was shooting iron plates, but still. :chuckle:
No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.
This is just friendly going back and forth so don't take it wrong please. As far as getting my gun taken away, I am talking about self defense in the woods with wild animals. I have never had one try to take my gun away from me. Also about the ricocheting, I guess that would have to do with every rifle hunter also.
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 02:09:31 PM
OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.Quote
No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.
Well Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed and shot with your own weapon :dunno: Highly unlikely but nothing is impossible. Thats also one reason I wont buy the cheap wimpy cans of bear mace. I Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 02:13:34 PM
OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.Quote
No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.
Well Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed and shot with your own weapon :dunno: Highly unlikely but nothing is impossible. Thats also one reason I wont buy the cheap wimpy cans of bear mace. I Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant.
You mean in your own false sence of security. Lol
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 02:14:29 PM
It sucks you cant pack heat, but thats the price you are paying till you challenge in a few years. Just carry a big hunting knife, next best thing wit the spray for you.Yeah I have like 4 on me :/ In different positions. I guess thats my "Just incase" thing. If I gotta wrestle with something, hopefully not a bear. Id be able to grab one from just about any position.
Fair enough, I just get alittle on the attack when people bash the way I go about doing things when they're virtually my best options.OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed :dunno: Thats why you dont get wimpy cans of bear mace. Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Id rather have that then nothing.
I always think this when people say bullets cant really ricochet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc)
Granted he was shooting iron plates, but still. :chuckle:
No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.
This is just friendly going back and forth so don't take it wrong please. As far as getting my gun taken away, I am talking about self defense in the woods with wild animals. I have never had one try to take my gun away from me. Also about the ricocheting, I guess that would have to do with every rifle hunter also.
Actually Smossy...considering your limitations....I think the firecracker idea is decent. Signaling device, check. Fire starting material, check. Low risk of unintentional forest fire, check. Legal....well good enough!
Lol Atleast, I don't think they would cause a fire. They are called... "Fire-crackers"
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 02:15:32 PM
Say what?OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.Quote
No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.
Well Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed and shot with your own weapon :dunno: Highly unlikely but nothing is impossible. Thats also one reason I wont buy the cheap wimpy cans of bear mace. I Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant.
You mean in your own false sence of security. Lol
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 02:21:17 PM
"Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant."
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 02:25:08 PM
Replace "situation" with "false sense of security".
"Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant."
Ok maybe I should rephrase my whole first paragraph. It is indeed security. But what I meant was some people use it like Its they're "GOD-TOOL" and will run they're mouth at people trying to cause a problem, or get involved in situations they have no reason being involved in because they're like "Oh I got a gun, Im not scared of anything".
Does that make alittle more sense? I sure as heck am not going to throw up my dukes if a bear comes running up on me. :chuckle:
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
I carry a Ruger Alaskan 44 mag on me. Im 6-4 and 280. Lifted my whole life. Im not bragging but this is my situation. I can fight like a Grizzly and am as strong almost. Someone threatens me with any kind of weapon besides a gun you wont see my 44. I dont need it. I would avoid it at all costs unless its the very last resort.
As far as the people who use it as a "god" tool. That must have been in your bangin days? Typical hard working, working, law abiding people dont act like that. But you said you have seen tons?
There the reason I carry!
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 02:38:22 PM
Not picking on ya Smoss. Your just making allot of statements about those who can and do carry when you know dam well you would if you could! You have said it before in other posts like this.I've said twice now just in this thread. That If I could, I absolutely would, also to add to that point. I said "SOME" people use it like that. Not all. That's like saying All hunters are unethical hunters. No, just some.
I carry a Ruger Alaskan 44 mag on me. Im 6-4 and 280. Lifted my whole life. Im not bragging but this is my situation. I can fight like a Grizzly and am as strong almost. Someone threatens me with any kind of weapon besides a gun you wont see my 44. I dont need it. I would avoid it at all costs unless its the very last resort.
As far as the people who use it as a "god" tool. That must have been in your bangin days? Typical hard working, working, law abiding people dont act like that. But you said you have seen tons?
There the reason I carry!
And I never "Banged" That's pretty offensive. I've just grown up in a drug infested neighborhood most my life to where you couldn't walk down the street without getting messed with, Not so bad these days. But It sure was when I was younger.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 02:53:28 PM
It was just a stereotypical accusation. Just like some of yours. ;)
Anyway, I respect you and your posts usaully Smoss. Your a good kid turning a bad situation into a good one. My little brother was in the same shoes. And has grown up as a solid person. Your on the same path. I can tell.
Post by: h20hunter on July 09, 2013, 02:54:26 PM
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 02:56:35 PM
Hey sorry, I didnt mean to acuse you of bangin. but thats sure were these situations would happen. I wasent sure your past.Hopefully. If I could find work.
It was just a stereotypical accusation. Just like some of yours. ;)
Anyway, I respect you and your posts usaully Smoss. Your a good kid turning a bad situation into a good one. My little brother was in the same shoes. And has grown up as a solid person. Your on the same path. I can tell.
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 02:58:05 PM
I don't know....that Smossy character seems a little sketchy to me........Stop trying to feed me then. :chuckle: Don't hate just my girl fishes better then me at times and I cant throw a keg 50 feet. :sry:
Post by: h20hunter on July 09, 2013, 02:58:45 PM
You try that bear meat yet?
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 02:59:33 PM
At times....?The only bear meat I have is the backstrap, and Im too afraid to screw it up - to cook it. Everyone else got the rest somehow :dunno:
You try that bear meat yet?
Post by: h20hunter on July 09, 2013, 03:00:59 PM
Post by: Plainswalker on July 10, 2013, 08:43:35 AM
We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.
Post by: kerrdog on July 10, 2013, 06:13:21 PM