Handgun worth the weight?

[washelkhunter]

There is nothing "potentially deadly" about my sidearm. It is deadly. Nor do I have a "false sense" of security while armed. I AM SECURE! Nor do I feel all "high and mighty" I leave that for Obummer!  We all try to avoid bad situations, but I am better equipped to handle most of them that might crop up in an unregulated environment. Guess it just sucks to be you Smosse.

[woodman]

[ous life involving crimes preventing you from owning firearms. You get a  little smarter and learn alternative methods instead of just always resorting to a potentially very deadly weapon. Not knocking you guys who carry, That's great. I probably would to If I was allowed to, But Im no longer allowed to have that "false sense of security" to make you feel all high and mighty like alot of people. It helps me actually consciously try to avoid bad situations, and be alittle more careful with what I do, what I say, and how I act. Big plus for me.
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Smossy, I enjoy your posts over time, but your statement about false sense of security is way off base from reality. Wait until you are in a real potentially dangerous situation with a predator that wants to hurt you. Then when you try the wave your arms and holler and it does absolutely nothing, it will rattle you about what people have told you about wild animals.

[Smossy]

Previous life involving crimes preventing you from owning firearms. You get a  little smarter and learn alternative methods instead of just always resorting to a potentially very deadly weapon. Not knocking you guys who carry, That's great. I probably would to If I was allowed to, But Im no longer allowed to have that "false sense of security" to make you feel all high and mighty like alot of people. It helps me actually consciously try to avoid bad situations, and be alittle more careful with what I do, what I say, and how I act. Big plus for me.

I still try to avoid bad situations and be careful.  Has nothing to do with feeling high and mighty.  It is just that I prefer to be as well armed, if not better, than what I confront that means me ill will.

On the matter of bear spray, downside of it is that if you are injured out in the woods and need assistance, three blasts from a canister of bear spray just makes the surrounding area smell nice and peppery.   

Lol holy crap everyone gets so defensive. Did I say your names specifically? I've seen tons of people. TONS, who act as a firearm is they're god tool. They can do anything, say anything, to whomever they want. Thats not the way to go about doing stuff. To those who are trained and know how to properly handle and shoot firearms that's great. I wish there was more like that.
I was just giving one reason why I don't and cant carry firearms.
And no, it does not really suck to be me, being from where Ive been in my life. Im absolutely blessed. Thanks though.

[Smossy]

Previous life involving crimes preventing you from owning firearms. You get a  little smarter and learn alternative methods instead of just always resorting to a potentially very deadly weapon. Not knocking you guys who carry, That's great. I probably would to If I was allowed to, But Im no longer allowed to have that "false sense of security" to make you feel all high and mighty like alot of people. It helps me actually consciously try to avoid bad situations, and be alittle more careful with what I do, what I say, and how I act. Big plus for me.

I still try to avoid bad situations and be careful.  Has nothing to do with feeling high and mighty.  It is just that I prefer to be as well armed, if not better, than what I confront that means me ill will.

On the matter of bear spray, downside of it is that if you are injured out in the woods and need assistance, three blasts from a canister of bear spray just makes the surrounding area smell nice and peppery.   

Lol that made me laugh, That is true. Guess I would just be screwed in that behalf. I do have a 6 pack of chinese firecracker's in my bags though. Why Im not really sure yet, They're a little better then m-80's. I imagine I could use them to start fires, scare away squirrels. Make somewhat loud noises for signaling? They're by no means as loud as a firearm though. Gotta improvise when and where you can.

[Smossy]

OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.

Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed Thats why you dont get wimpy cans of bear mace. Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Id rather have that then nothing.
I always think this when people say bullets cant really ricochet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
Granted he was shooting iron plates, but still.





No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.

[h20hunter]

Actually Smossy...considering your limitations....I think the firecracker idea is decent. Signaling device, check. Fire starting material, check. Low risk of unintentional forest fire, check. Legal....well good enough!

[wildmanoutdoors]

The odds of being harmed in Washington by a wild critter are close to 0. Humans, perhaps but I can't recall reading of a hunter being intentionally harmed by another human in Washington.

There are items that would be of far greater survival value than a handgun: satellite phone, well stocked first aid kit, etc.

That said you really don't need to ask for anyone's opinion: if you want to carry and it makes you feel safer, then there's your answer.

Good 13oz can of Bear Mace, and your good to go IMO. Works on virtually any living creature, including humans, something to where the law enforcement would need to be contact if an incident came about. (Having to blast a bear or person in the face for whatever reason) and Its super lightweight. Irritates/shuts down respiratory system and makes it virtually impossible to do anything or think about doing anything but grab your face and eyes. You could shoot an animal/person and they could still come at ya.

What ever makes you feel better about your own personal situation.

[washelkhunter]

It sucks you cant pack heat, but thats the price you are paying till you challenge in a few years. Just carry a big hunting knife, next best thing wit the spray for you.

[woodman]

OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.

Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed Thats why you dont get wimpy cans of bear mace. Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Id rather have that then nothing.
I always think this when people say bullets cant really ricochet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
Granted he was shooting iron plates, but still.





No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.

This is just friendly going back and forth so don't take it wrong please. As far as getting my gun taken away, I am talking about self defense in the woods with wild animals. I have never had one try to take my gun away from me. Also about the ricocheting, I guess that would have to do with every rifle hunter also.

[Smossy]

OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.

No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.

Well Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed and shot with your own weapon Highly unlikely but nothing is impossible. Thats also one reason I wont buy the cheap wimpy cans of bear mace. I Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant.

[wildmanoutdoors]

OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.

No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.

Well Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed and shot with your own weapon Highly unlikely but nothing is impossible. Thats also one reason I wont buy the cheap wimpy cans of bear mace. I Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant.

You mean in your own false sence of security. Lol

[Smossy]

It sucks you cant pack heat, but thats the price you are paying till you challenge in a few years. Just carry a big hunting knife, next best thing wit the spray for you.

Yeah I have like 4 on me :/ In different positions. I guess thats my "Just incase" thing. If I gotta wrestle with something, hopefully not a bear. Id be able to grab one from just about any position.

OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.

Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed Thats why you dont get wimpy cans of bear mace. Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Id rather have that then nothing.
I always think this when people say bullets cant really ricochet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
Granted he was shooting iron plates, but still.





No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.

This is just friendly going back and forth so don't take it wrong please. As far as getting my gun taken away, I am talking about self defense in the woods with wild animals. I have never had one try to take my gun away from me. Also about the ricocheting, I guess that would have to do with every rifle hunter also.

Fair enough, I just get alittle on the attack when people bash the way I go about doing things when they're virtually my best options.

Actually Smossy...considering your limitations....I think the firecracker idea is decent. Signaling device, check. Fire starting material, check. Low risk of unintentional forest fire, check. Legal....well good enough!

Lol Atleast, I don't think they would cause a fire. They are called... "Fire-crackers"

[Smossy]

OMG lookout he's got an aerosol can in his hand! No. ill keep the iron.

No kidding, also the wind won't blow your bullets back in your face and incapacitate you. Also the bear that I had to shoot a bullet into the ground to get it the quit challenging me in the woods did not have to be so close to me when I discharged my weapon.

Well Bullets can ricochet and you can get disarmed and shot with your own weapon Highly unlikely but nothing is impossible. Thats also one reason I wont buy the cheap wimpy cans of bear mace. I Get the high power ones that shoot out alot further, Not really going to matter in a high wind situation though. Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant.

You mean in your own false sence of security. Lol

Say what?

[wildmanoutdoors]

Replace "situation" with "false sense of security".

"Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant."

[Smossy]

Replace "situation" with "false sense of security".

"Guess what Im saying is in my situation Id rather have that then nothing. If you can have a firearm and know how to use it, Do it. I cant."

Ok maybe I should rephrase my whole first paragraph. It is indeed security. But what I meant was some people use it like Its they're "GOD-TOOL" and will run they're mouth at people trying to cause a problem, or get involved in situations they have no reason being involved in because they're like "Oh I got a gun, Im not scared of anything".

Does that make alittle more sense? I sure as heck am not going to throw up my dukes if a bear comes running up on me.