Post by: JPhelps on July 08, 2013, 04:58:18 PM
RULES:
~1 minute ± 5 seconds total sound clip
~File needs to be emailed to me at phelpsgamecalls@yahoo.com as a .mp3 , .wav or any other soundcloud.com supported soundfile. Subject:Elk Calling Contest. Include, Name, Hunting-Washington handle, and mailing address.
~Only one caller allowed per sound clip/sound clip must be continuous from start to finish
~Only Air operated calls may be used
~All Callers will remain anonymous until after the winners are chosen (can elect to stay anonymous after that if preferred).
~Caller submissions will be posted under the contest for others on the forum to listen.
~Caller must have 25+ posts on hunting-washington.com prior to 7/22/2013.
~Jason Phelps, Corey Jacobsen, Dirk Durham, Joel Turner and Elknut Paul will be the judges and will base the score out of 30. (10 for herd talk, 10 for bull sounds and 10 for freestyle).
Required Sounds:
20 Seconds of Herd Talk (Cow/calf vocals, pleading, estrus, alarm, etc...)
20 Seconds of Bull Sounds (Locator, Challenge, Scream, Grunt, Chuckle, etc...)
20 Seconds of Freestyle (Any elk vocalizations you would like to use)
DISCLAIMER:
The judges will score the audio clip according to their own criteria. Their decision is final. Do not get offended or argue with the results. This is for FUN and lets keep it that way.
Prizes:
Current donations from Phelps Game Calls, Elk101.com/Extreme Elk and Elknut Productions.
WORKFLOW:
I went ahead and did this two different ways:
1)I made a video and then transferred it to YouTube. You can than use many online converters to convert the Youtube video to an .mp3 (google search). What you can do is enter in the letters pwn right after the www. when watching the video and hit enter. This will take you to a screen where all the available converters that YouTube supports are. I used OnlineConverter. Video must be "public" for the conversion. Otherwise you can go to google and search for "youtube to mp3 converter" and use one of your choice.
2)I also used a program called Free Video Converter. Here, you can convert any video to an .mp3 directly (It must be downloaded to your computer though).
I also advise that everyone uses a 256 kbps transfer to make sure that they are getting the highest audio quality. Then just email me the .mp3 file with your name and user name attached.
Post by: JPhelps on July 09, 2013, 04:50:21 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 09, 2013, 08:47:15 PM
Post by: RUTNBULL1 on July 09, 2013, 09:57:19 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 11, 2013, 09:20:21 PM
Post by: RUTNBULL1 on July 14, 2013, 07:31:36 AM
I have been standing the diaphragm on end with the latex pointing up to the roof of my mouth :chuckle:Saweet I'll have to try that way and see if it makes any sound!!! :chuckle:
Post by: JPhelps on July 14, 2013, 12:16:35 PM
Post by: atfulldraw on July 14, 2013, 12:19:28 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 14, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
Maybe we should let it float again
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 14, 2013, 01:11:53 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 14, 2013, 02:42:56 PM
BUT it is air-operated
Post by: JPhelps on July 15, 2013, 05:19:08 PM
Post by: Sliverslinger on July 15, 2013, 05:28:12 PM
Post by: bonkellekter on July 15, 2013, 05:46:36 PM
Post by: elk247 on July 15, 2013, 06:03:21 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 15, 2013, 08:25:57 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 16, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Post by: The100Road on July 20, 2013, 07:15:02 PM
Are you guys/gals all going to swamp me at the end? :yike:
how many submissions do you have so far?
Post by: gonehuntin68 on July 20, 2013, 07:58:47 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 20, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
I'm sure I will get bombarded tomorrow and Monday
Post by: JPhelps on July 21, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
I have decided to extend the submissions until 7/29/13. I had a lot of Interest when I asked a month ago.
Post by: bonkellekter on July 21, 2013, 09:43:56 PM
Post by: The100Road on July 22, 2013, 06:09:30 AM
3 submissions is It.
I have decided to extend the submissions until 7/29/13. I had a lot of Interest when I asked a month ago.
you snooze you lose! sounds like 1st, 2nd, & 3rd all get prizes. :chuckle:
Post by: JPhelps on July 24, 2013, 04:12:22 PM
Post by: Sliverslinger on July 24, 2013, 06:15:05 PM
BTW, you did get mine a few days back right Jason?
Also, when do you anticipate the judging being done by?
Post by: JPhelps on July 24, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 28, 2013, 07:10:42 PM
Phelps Game Calls, Elk 101 and Elknut have donated prizes.
Post by: atfulldraw on July 28, 2013, 07:19:28 PM
Post by: bonkellekter on July 28, 2013, 08:56:03 PM
What is the count up to now out of curiosity?
Post by: JPhelps on July 28, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
Post by: blacktail luv on July 28, 2013, 09:22:08 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 29, 2013, 03:32:32 PM
Post by: atfulldraw on July 29, 2013, 03:58:13 PM
yes and yesYes as in you got it or yes you didn't? :dunno:
Post by: JPhelps on July 29, 2013, 04:13:08 PM
Post by: atfulldraw on July 29, 2013, 04:33:54 PM
yes as in yes I got it :chuckle:Thanks Jason. :tup:
Post by: Sliverslinger on July 29, 2013, 06:05:01 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 29, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
I'm assuming you got mine a week or two back. I never heard anything back so it must play
Got yours
Post by: elk247 on July 29, 2013, 06:58:57 PM
Post by: atfulldraw on July 29, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on July 30, 2013, 08:08:10 AM
Post by: bonkellekter on July 30, 2013, 06:04:08 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 30, 2013, 06:10:22 PM
Post by: bonkellekter on July 30, 2013, 06:20:20 PM
Post by: TommyH on July 30, 2013, 11:01:25 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 30, 2013, 11:19:35 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 31, 2013, 05:00:01 AM
Post by: gonehuntin68 on July 31, 2013, 12:05:30 PM
Post by: atfulldraw on August 01, 2013, 06:03:11 PM
Post by: JPhelps on August 01, 2013, 06:31:21 PM
Post by: atfulldraw on August 01, 2013, 07:39:13 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 01, 2013, 09:59:58 PM
Post by: Kain on August 02, 2013, 02:21:42 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 04, 2013, 09:30:44 AM
Post by: atfulldraw on August 05, 2013, 04:48:34 PM
Post by: Kain on August 05, 2013, 05:34:57 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 05, 2013, 05:51:24 PM
The suspense is killing me Jason, when are the result done?
:yeah: Its been 9,710 minutes!!! :chuckle:
Post by: Sliverslinger on August 05, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
The suspense is killing me Jason, when are the result done?
Post by: JPhelps on August 05, 2013, 06:27:45 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 05, 2013, 06:28:09 PM
OH neither of you to got the PM about the first second and third place winners?
Post by: TommyH on August 05, 2013, 06:29:51 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 06, 2013, 10:11:29 PM
Post by: Sliverslinger on August 06, 2013, 10:15:47 PM
9 days! Its killing me..........! :chuckle: Can we hear the entries? Hopefully we that entered can see the judges scores and maybe learn something, know which areas of our calling the judges believe needs improvement. It would be great to see where we scored good and where we didn't score so well, without feedback from accomplished elk hunters we might not improve if we are not sure of what we are doing something wrong. It is judged from people I believe to know what they are talking about so.......hopefully we can see the scores learn something from this. :twocents: Thanks Jason for putting this on! :tup:
Scores or feedback would be good.
Post by: elk247 on August 07, 2013, 08:22:46 AM
Post by: JPhelps on August 07, 2013, 02:29:43 PM
Caller 2: http://snd.sc/1cd8cFC (http://snd.sc/1cd8cFC)
Caller 3: http://snd.sc/18bcMyl (http://snd.sc/18bcMyl)
Caller 4: http://snd.sc/131aOmf (http://snd.sc/131aOmf)
Caller 5: http://snd.sc/1cd8jB9 (http://snd.sc/1cd8jB9)
Caller 6: http://snd.sc/18bcOq8 (http://snd.sc/18bcOq8)
Caller 7: http://snd.sc/18bcQhP (http://snd.sc/18bcQhP)
Post by: Sliverslinger on August 07, 2013, 03:57:58 PM
Post by: Kain on August 07, 2013, 04:11:16 PM
Post by: JPhelps on August 07, 2013, 06:27:04 PM
Waiting on one judge.
Post by: Sliverslinger on August 07, 2013, 06:31:57 PM
What's everyone's opinion?
Waiting on one judge.
I'm curious what people think as well.
Post by: Smossy on August 07, 2013, 06:38:24 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 07, 2013, 06:50:30 PM
#1- 7,6,7=20 revised 8,6,8=22
#2- 6,5,5=16
#3- 8,5,6=19
#4- 4,5,5=14
#5- 4,4,4=12
#6- 7,6,6=19
#7- 8,7,8=23
Post by: The100Road on August 07, 2013, 07:02:30 PM
Post by: windygorge on August 07, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
Post by: bonkellekter on August 08, 2013, 07:40:18 AM
What's everyone's opinion?
Waiting on one judge.
I'm curious what people think as well.
:yeah: Let's here some more comments and critiques before the final judgements roll in!!
Post by: TommyH on August 08, 2013, 01:42:17 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 08, 2013, 05:49:02 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 08, 2013, 05:52:37 PM
Post by: Prime Time on August 08, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
Post by: bonkellekter on August 08, 2013, 08:00:23 PM
#7's bugles were just a little too "flutey" for me for them to win it. Not to take away anything from the caller but it just didn't have that rasp that the bulls I hear have. But that's just my :twocents:
:yeah: That is my thoughts as well
Post by: TommyH on August 08, 2013, 09:49:30 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on August 09, 2013, 01:54:32 AM
Post by: elk247 on August 09, 2013, 02:46:24 AM
#7's bugles were just a little too "flutey" for me for them to win it. Not to take away anything from the caller but it just didn't have that rasp that the bulls I hear have. But that's just my :twocents:I still use the same bugle tube that i bought about 15 years ago. It has a "flutey" sound to it. The newer tubes have so much more resonance.
Edit* I am not caller #7 but can relate to the flutey sound. It sounded like he used a external for cow calls and maybe a terminator. I would be happy to have him call for me anyday. Nice work #7
Post by: elk247 on August 09, 2013, 03:15:08 AM
Post by: Prime Time on August 09, 2013, 05:22:42 AM
All elk sound different, no one is going to sound the exact same as the other one. There were a few entries that just sounded abit to much one toned. But this is just my opinion and in this case it doesn't matter. :chuckle: Good luck to all that entered and happy hunting this year. May your tags all get notched! Hunt hard and try to keep the wind in your favor.
I agree that all elk are going to sound different and I was just giving some feedback on why I thought caller 7 wouldn't win the contest is all. I also agree with elk247 that it definitely sounded like a terminator type bugle. I won't deny that a lot of bulls fall victim to this type of call every year. Just to me they don't sound "elky" enough to win an elk calling contest. But again..just my opinion
Post by: TommyH on August 09, 2013, 09:10:38 AM
All elk sound different, no one is going to sound the exact same as the other one. There were a few entries that just sounded abit to much one toned. But this is just my opinion and in this case it doesn't matter. :chuckle: Good luck to all that entered and happy hunting this year. May your tags all get notched! Hunt hard and try to keep the wind in your favor.
I agree that all elk are going to sound different and I was just giving some feedback on why I thought caller 7 wouldn't win the contest is all. I also agree with elk247 that it definitely sounded like a terminator type bugle. I won't deny that a lot of bulls fall victim to this type of call every year. Just to me they don't sound "elky" enough to win an elk calling contest. But again..just my opinion
Barrys Thunder Bugle
And for around 5-6 hours this guy thought it sounded "elky" enough.
Post by: bonkellekter on August 09, 2013, 09:29:15 AM
I am guessing that you are #7 Tommy? I definately was not trying offend you in any way or knock the effectiveness of your calling in the elk woods. I have had a few bulls fall victim to what I would refer to as a "flutey" sounding bugle, and it was very effective!!
Post by: TommyH on August 09, 2013, 09:35:05 AM
Post by: Prime Time on August 09, 2013, 10:06:19 AM
Post by: TommyH on August 09, 2013, 10:10:24 AM
:tup: Its all good!
Post by: elk247 on August 09, 2013, 12:46:36 PM
Post by: The100Road on August 09, 2013, 03:16:24 PM
All elk sound different, no one is going to sound the exact same as the other one. There were a few entries that just sounded abit to much one toned. But this is just my opinion and in this case it doesn't matter. :chuckle: Good luck to all that entered and happy hunting this year. May your tags all get notched! Hunt hard and try to keep the wind in your favor.
I agree that all elk are going to sound different and I was just giving some feedback on why I thought caller 7 wouldn't win the contest is all. I also agree with elk247 that it definitely sounded like a terminator type bugle. I won't deny that a lot of bulls fall victim to this type of call every year. Just to me they don't sound "elky" enough to win an elk calling contest. But again..just my opinion
Barrys Thunder Bugle
And for around 5-6 hours this guy thought it sounded "elky" enough.
5-6 hours! i bet #1 or #6 could have called it in in less that an hour. :stirthepot: haha. just kidding man. had to do it. i dream of a bull like that some day.
Post by: Prime Time on August 09, 2013, 04:50:48 PM
All elk sound different, no one is going to sound the exact same as the other one. There were a few entries that just sounded abit to much one toned. But this is just my opinion and in this case it doesn't matter. :chuckle: Good luck to all that entered and happy hunting this year. May your tags all get notched! Hunt hard and try to keep the wind in your favor.
I agree that all elk are going to sound different and I was just giving some feedback on why I thought caller 7 wouldn't win the contest is all. I also agree with elk247 that it definitely sounded like a terminator type bugle. I won't deny that a lot of bulls fall victim to this type of call every year. Just to me they don't sound "elky" enough to win an elk calling contest. But again..just my opinion
Barrys Thunder Bugle
And for around 5-6 hours this guy thought it sounded "elky" enough.
5-6 hours! i bet #1 or #6 could have called it in in less that an hour. :stirthepot: haha. just kidding man. had to do it. i dream of a bull like that some day.
:chuckle:
Post by: buglebuster on August 09, 2013, 04:56:37 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 09, 2013, 05:17:13 PM
Post by: elk247 on August 10, 2013, 02:32:20 AM
Post by: TommyH on August 11, 2013, 12:12:12 PM
Post by: JPhelps on August 11, 2013, 12:22:46 PM
Post by: gonehuntin68 on August 13, 2013, 08:31:38 PM
Post by: bonkellekter on August 13, 2013, 08:37:13 PM
:dunno:
I Think maybe its time we coax the name of the remaining judge out of mr. Phelps and let the hazing begin. :chuckle:
Post by: TommyH on August 13, 2013, 09:20:41 PM
:dunno:
I Think maybe its time we coax the name of the remaining judge out of mr. Phelps and let the hazing begin. :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: JPhelps on August 13, 2013, 09:39:41 PM
Post by: RUTNBULL1 on August 13, 2013, 09:56:32 PM
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fjason-phelps-2%2Fbu&h=_AQHXEIrt (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fjason-phelps-2%2Fbu&h=_AQHXEIrt)
Post by: JPhelps on August 14, 2013, 07:10:30 AM
Post by: TommyH on August 14, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
Post by: Sliverslinger on August 14, 2013, 06:57:25 PM
All the scores are in. I will post later once I arrange all the prizes.:tup:up
Post by: JPhelps on August 14, 2013, 09:40:03 PM
6 25 24 26 27 23 ProStaff (no score) Great cow calls. Great bugles. Add some voice/growl to beginning of bugles.
3 21.4 22 22 20 21 22 Good cow sounds, great chuckles.
1 19.2 20 17 20 19 20 Decent cow calls, little too high-pitched. Flutey bugles with good chuckles…add more voice/growl at beginning.
4 17.8 19 14 22 16 18 Tinnie bugles, chuckles. OK cow sounds. Great screams.
2 16.4 14 16 19 15 18 Squeeky cow calls. Bugle is decent, need to work on chuckles.
7 14 13 10 16 16 15 Need more versatility in cow sounds. Add some voice to the bugles (beginning and end). Get some diaphragms and practice to add more versatility.
5 13.6 15 10 15 14 14 Use your mouth to lip the sound "E-O" for cow sounds. Add growl at beginning of bugles. Bugles are "weak", chuckles are good.
I will figure out the prizes and post them. Caller #6 was not eligible for any prize from Phelps Game Calls. After talking with him he told me to divvy it up amongst the other callers.
Post by: bonkellekter on August 14, 2013, 10:56:40 PM
Thanks for putting this on again Jason - hope it happens again next year with a better turnout. If possible I would like more feedback and suggestions from the judges on what I can work on.
Post by: JPhelps on August 15, 2013, 04:47:28 AM
Post by: bonkellekter on August 15, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
I will post up my comments later.
Right on!! Thanks Jason...
Post by: JPhelps on August 15, 2013, 05:25:38 PM
Caller 6: Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Primos Bow Sling, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 3: $45 Phelps Gift Certificate,Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 1: $35 Phelps Gift Certiciate, Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 4:$25 Phelps Gift Certificate
Caller 2: Wyoming Saw w/belted waist pack
Caller 7: $10 Phelps Gift Certificate
Caller 5: $10 Phelps Gift Certificate
Thanks to Elk101/Extreme elk and Elknut outdoors for helping with the prizes. I would also like to thank Corey, Joel, Paul and Dirk for helping judge.
Post by: The100Road on August 15, 2013, 05:50:04 PM
Prizes:
Caller 6: Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Primos Bow Sling, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 3: $45 Phelps Gift Certificate,Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 1: $35 Phelps Gift Certiciate, Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 4:$25 Phelps Gift Certificate
Caller 2: Wyoming Saw w/belted waist pack
Caller 7: $10 Phelps Gift Certificate
Caller 5: $10 Phelps Gift Certificate
Thanks to Elk101/Extreme elk and Elknut outdoors for helping with the prizes. I would also like to thank Corey, Joel, Paul and Dirk for helping judge.
Very Generous of all of you. :)
Post by: bonkellekter on August 15, 2013, 06:20:16 PM
:yeah:Prizes:
Caller 6: Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Primos Bow Sling, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 3: $45 Phelps Gift Certificate,Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 1: $35 Phelps Gift Certiciate, Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.Extreme Elk Mag Subscription, Eat.Sleep.Hunt Elk shirt, and extreme elk hat.
Caller 4:$25 Phelps Gift Certificate
Caller 2: Wyoming Saw w/belted waist pack
Caller 7: $10 Phelps Gift Certificate
Caller 5: $10 Phelps Gift Certificate
Thanks to Elk101/Extreme elk and Elknut outdoors for helping with the prizes. I would also like to thank Corey, Joel, Paul and Dirk for helping judge.
Very Generous of all of you. :)
Post by: atfulldraw on August 15, 2013, 06:36:14 PM
Post by: RUTNBULL1 on August 15, 2013, 08:10:55 PM
Post by: JPhelps on August 15, 2013, 08:17:58 PM
1: Cow calls good but squeeky on the high end. Good lip bawls and chuckles
2: External Cow Call sounds decent, chuckles quick, grunts not deep enough
3: Good clean cow sounds(maybe too clean), good high note bugles and voice inflection in bugles
4: High bugles, cow call is one higher tone (work on two part cow sounds)
5: Cow call sounds hollow, grunts are decent, more voice inflection in bugles
7: Cow calls decent but all the same, bugle is stair-stepping flutey, chuckles are missing the inhale portion
Post by: gonehuntin68 on August 15, 2013, 08:26:54 PM
Post by: TommyH on August 16, 2013, 08:04:00 AM
Thanks guys. Pretty cool to get some prizes on a friendly contest. :tup:
:yeah: Thanks for doing this! Next time I wont wait till 1130 deadline night to submit my entry.
Post by: Sliverslinger on August 16, 2013, 11:16:42 PM
Post by: elk247 on August 18, 2013, 11:14:37 AM
Post by: buglelk on October 08, 2013, 08:33:08 AM
Good luck in vegas next year. And remember world champions in vegas, stay in vegas, when they run out of fuel. :chuckle:
Ouch elk247! I'm OK running out of fuel in elk country, but the last place I want to be trapped is in Vegas! :bdid:
Thanks to everyone who participated, and congrats to the winners!
Post by: JPhelps on October 08, 2013, 08:50:18 AM
Post by: bonkellekter on October 09, 2013, 10:48:56 PM
Post by: elkkillin5 on November 04, 2013, 08:00:36 PM