Post by: Fishaholic on July 08, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
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Post by: Fishaholic on July 09, 2013, 12:45:02 AM
Post by: bowhunterforever on July 09, 2013, 12:49:58 AM
Post by: huntnnw on July 09, 2013, 12:57:48 AM
Im not sure if its a good real but it works for me. Its an abu garcia ambassadeur 5500-c3 2 speed.
:tup: one of the original and cant go wrong with them..I own a few still
Post by: DoubleJ on July 09, 2013, 06:44:32 AM
Wish I could figure out how to work these reels :bash:
:yeah: I gave up on them years ago and never looked back
Post by: mrmoskillz on July 09, 2013, 07:05:20 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 07:08:42 AM
Much more control with a BC though. I can cast my Curado farther than my spinning reels with much greater accuracy.
I run mine with no cast control. Everything backed off to complete free spool mode. This will take years of practice to really master.
Get rid of the mono and put some Fireline on that bad boy! You wont regret it!~
Post by: Thefisherman83 on July 09, 2013, 07:47:07 AM
Now try casting lighter weights. 1 oz will not work in most drift fishing applications. Lighter weights will humble you. Lol
Much more control with a BC though. I can cast my Curado farther than my spinning reels with much greater accuracy.
I run mine with no cast control. Everything backed off to complete free spool mode. This will take years of practice to really master.
Get rid of the mono and put some Fireline on that bad boy! You wont regret it!~
:yeah: Except I wouldn't even bother with lighter weights with an ambassador on an 8' rod, it could turn you off to baitcasting. Go get a decent low profile casting setup, I recommend the Citica or if money allows the Curado or Calais. Once you fight a fish with a casting set up, its very hard to pick up a spinning rig again.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 08:11:03 AM
Now try casting lighter weights. 1 oz will not work in most drift fishing applications. Lighter weights will humble you. Lol
Much more control with a BC though. I can cast my Curado farther than my spinning reels with much greater accuracy.
I run mine with no cast control. Everything backed off to complete free spool mode. This will take years of practice to really master.
Get rid of the mono and put some Fireline on that bad boy! You wont regret it!~
:yeah: Except I wouldn't even bother with lighter weights with an ambassador on an 8' rod, it could turn you off to baitcasting.
:yeah: Lol, that was the humbling part :chuckle:
Post by: BigGoonTuna on July 09, 2013, 08:48:41 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 09:02:49 AM
rod selection is more important than your reel when using a baitcaster for throwing light weights. most factory rods are too heavy for anything down into the 1/8-1/4oz of lead range i'll use in the summer time. i've got a couple i've built for that purpose, set up with ABU 2500C reels(hard to find these days).:dunno:
Highly disagree. A super freespooling reel will cast much farther than any ABU. No question. Put em on the same rod and you cant tell us that an ABU can cast as far as a new Curado or old super free Curado as examples.
As for rods, loading the rod is whats important when casting with a baitcaster.
Your right on rod selection, you cant properly load a heavy rod with very light weight.
Post by: h20hunter on July 09, 2013, 09:20:15 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on July 09, 2013, 09:24:47 AM
I would add that the proper rod selection allows for that loading to occur...which...in turn allows the controlled release of energy. The whipping of the light weight on the stout rod can result in a heck of a birdsnest. Smooth and steady is your recipe for casting success. I also agree with the comment on adjusting and getting used to the control of the spool tension. the better you get the lighter the tension you can put on the spool. Just remember....smooth is the key.
:yeah:
Rarely is it about how far you can chuck it...for someone new to baitcasters, it's mostly about avoiding the backlash.
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 09, 2013, 11:35:52 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 09, 2013, 12:39:43 PM
Can't think of a time where I had to cast as far as possible to hook fish. 90% of the time its close in. For all you guys who gave up on baitcasters, your really missing out.
You need to fish with my brother who cant row. The closer you want him to an area that looks fishy, the farther away you will end up. :chuckle:
Post by: Fishaholic on July 09, 2013, 12:47:19 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 09, 2013, 12:55:50 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: funny thing is i think i have fished with your brother at the chehalis tilla a long long long time ago. me and "casey"Can't think of a time where I had to cast as far as possible to hook fish. 90% of the time its close in. For all you guys who gave up on baitcasters, your really missing out.
You need to fish with my brother who cant row. The closer you want him to an area that looks fishy, the farther away you will end up. :chuckle:
Post by: L-ofalab on July 09, 2013, 06:23:13 PM
Im not sure if its a good real but it works for me. Its an abu garcia ambassadeur 5500-c3 2 speed.
I run the 6500's I think I have 4 of them still. I think the only difference is the line capacity. My friend uses both for steelhead and salmon on the Columbia.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on July 09, 2013, 09:26:15 PM
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Post by: _TONY_ on July 09, 2013, 10:11:50 PM
Just make sure if you do remove your brakes, you don't let anyone else cast them, or it's rats nest city...
Post by: huntnnw on July 09, 2013, 10:13:48 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 09, 2013, 10:25:53 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on July 09, 2013, 10:49:21 PM
I run pretty much only Toros on my rods these days...
Post by: KopperBuck on July 09, 2013, 10:52:00 PM
If we're talking about the bigger fish, I drift only with low pro's. Used to run the round Abu's, but that was 10 years ago. Only pull plugs with those anymore. You can certainly do it, but throw those all day, and then throw a low pro all day. No comparison.
Post by: Bullkllr on July 09, 2013, 11:03:16 PM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
I have a 1957 5000C. It's less smooth when winding than pretty much any reel, but the bearings are still about the smoothest I have ever seen on a baitcaster.
Post by: MtnMuley on July 09, 2013, 11:09:55 PM
Post by: Thefisherman83 on July 10, 2013, 08:24:33 AM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Challenge accepted!! I wouldn't call the Curado a great caster, at least for light weight distance, but my Calais will beat up on almost anything out there.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 08:35:14 AM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Challenge accepted!! I wouldn't call the Curado a great caster, at least for light weight distance, but my Calais will beat up on almost anything out there.
For that kind of money it better.
My My newer Curado on my 1143 GL3 is a smooth setup and casts light weight very well. Its the perfect Steelhead setup IMO.
Granted, my Calcutta 250's are also awesome casters. I can fling a number 4 spinner farther than my buddies with there spinning reels.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 08:43:27 AM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Holy smokes. I looked on Ebay and these models start at 350! :yike:
Post by: Thefisherman83 on July 10, 2013, 09:05:17 AM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Challenge accepted!! I wouldn't call the Curado a great caster, at least for light weight distance, but my Calais will beat up on almost anything out there.
For that kind of money it better.
My My newer Curado on my 1143 GL3 is a smooth setup and casts light weight very well. Its the perfect Steelhead setup IMO.
Granted, my Calcutta 250's are also awesome casters. I can fling a number 4 spinner farther than my buddies with there spinning reels.
I know a guy so I got it at cost, it was actually cheaper than my Curado lol.
Post by: addicted2hunting on July 10, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
Can't think of a time where I had to cast as far as possible to hook fish. 90% of the time its close in. For all you guys who gave up on baitcasters, your really missing out.
you would be surprised the amount of fish are within the first 10 feet of water. like nubs said i too have caught most my fish in close.
Post by: MtnMuley on July 10, 2013, 02:13:20 PM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Challenge accepted!! I wouldn't call the Curado a great caster, at least for light weight distance, but my Calais will beat up on almost anything out there.
Calais, lol. I'll throw Curado SF's, Chronarch's, and Scorpions further all day. I'll never buy another Calais........however, it is a very smooth trolling/bottom bouncing walleye reel :chuckle:
Post by: Fishaholic on July 10, 2013, 02:21:49 PM
Post by: h20hunter on July 10, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 10, 2013, 02:26:20 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on July 10, 2013, 02:35:58 PM
Post by: Thefisherman83 on July 10, 2013, 02:38:26 PM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Challenge accepted!! I wouldn't call the Curado a great caster, at least for light weight distance, but my Calais will beat up on almost anything out there.
Calais, lol. I'll throw Curado SF's, Chronarch's, and Scorpions further all day. I'll never buy another Calais........however, it is a very smooth trolling/bottom bouncing walleye reel :chuckle:
:boxin: Them's fightin words, looks like were going to have to arrange a cast off, to prove our manhood. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: MtnMuley on July 10, 2013, 03:25:01 PM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Challenge accepted!! I wouldn't call the Curado a great caster, at least for light weight distance, but my Calais will beat up on almost anything out there.
Calais, lol. I'll throw Curado SF's, Chronarch's, and Scorpions further all day. I'll never buy another Calais........however, it is a very smooth trolling/bottom bouncing walleye reel :chuckle:
:boxin: Them's fightin words, looks like were going to have to arrange a cast off, to prove our manhood. :chuckle: :chuckle:
:chuckle: ................................If that's the case, I'm breaking out one of the Calcutta's on a 9'6" Loomis Mag power extra fast tip loaded with 20# Superslick 8 with a 2-3 oz teardrop sinker.........We had better start on the goal line and try for field goals! :chuckle:
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 10, 2013, 03:41:26 PM
-Steve
Post by: Thefisherman83 on July 10, 2013, 03:41:35 PM
anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Challenge accepted!! I wouldn't call the Curado a great caster, at least for light weight distance, but my Calais will beat up on almost anything out there.
Calais, lol. I'll throw Curado SF's, Chronarch's, and Scorpions further all day. I'll never buy another Calais........however, it is a very smooth trolling/bottom bouncing walleye reel :chuckle:
:boxin: Them's fightin words, looks like were going to have to arrange a cast off, to prove our manhood. :chuckle: :chuckle:
:chuckle: ................................If that's the case, I'm breaking out one of the Calcutta's on a 9'6" Loomis Mag power extra fast tip loaded with 20# Superslick 8 with a 2-3 oz teardrop sinker.........We had better start on the goal line and try for field goals! :chuckle:
Whoa there buddy, the rules clearly state this was a light lead competition. If were breaking out the big guns, I would have to agree fully with that set up. The Calcutta is hard to beat in the round reel category.
Post by: MtnMuley on July 10, 2013, 03:47:20 PM
:chuckle:........fine, the Scorpion is it!anyone who doubts the casting capability of the 1500 and 2500C abus has never seen one in action. i'll put mine against any curado or other overpriced shimano(and i own those, too).
sure the bigger ones are a little lackluster out of the box, but a little tuning goes a long way.
Challenge accepted!! I wouldn't call the Curado a great caster, at least for light weight distance, but my Calais will beat up on almost anything out there.
Calais, lol. I'll throw Curado SF's, Chronarch's, and Scorpions further all day. I'll never buy another Calais........however, it is a very smooth trolling/bottom bouncing walleye reel :chuckle:
:boxin: Them's fightin words, looks like were going to have to arrange a cast off, to prove our manhood. :chuckle: :chuckle:
:chuckle: ................................If that's the case, I'm breaking out one of the Calcutta's on a 9'6" Loomis Mag power extra fast tip loaded with 20# Superslick 8 with a 2-3 oz teardrop sinker.........We had better start on the goal line and try for field goals! :chuckle:
Whoa there buddy, the rules clearly state this was a light lead competition. If were breaking out the big guns, I would have to agree fully with that set up. The Calcutta is hard to beat in the round reel category.
Post by: Panic Minnow on July 10, 2013, 04:20:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gyXnhY_Tzs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gyXnhY_Tzs)
Post by: MtnMuley on July 10, 2013, 04:22:54 PM
There is a trick that will get out 95% of all rats nests.....here is a link to it. This is the only video that I could find on the subject, but it really works..... way better than pulling the line out the front from the beginning. I usually dig my thumbnail in the line while reeling, then push the thumbar, slowly pull line out until it starts to get stuck, then back to reeling the line in with the thumb on the spool. This works awesome, and may not change how many birdnests you get, but will change how you get them out. Braid birdnests are usually worse IMHO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gyXnhY_Tzs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gyXnhY_Tzs)
That's the only way I do it with a nasty nasty. Great idea to post the link.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 04:23:40 PM
So when should I put on braided instead of mono? I can cast without rat nests and I rarely get one. Does the braid come off the reel easyer?
When you birds nest Fireline it comes right out. Its unbelievable stuff. Never digs in. Been using it exclusively for over 15 or so years.
If you like braid, you will love Fireline! Its a fusion, not a braid. Never wraps your tip like braid can. NEVER!
Once Fireline un stiffens a bit from being new, It comes off like butter. Mono has memory and keeps that coil in it from being on the spool. 20 pound Fireline will straighten your 3/0 Octo hook on a snag. Stuff is fantastic. If more Powerpro users tried it I think they would switch.
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 10, 2013, 04:28:37 PM
I've tried it, being that its flat I don't think it mends as well as pp which is a big deal to me.So when should I put on braided instead of mono? I can cast without rat nests and I rarely get one. Does the braid come off the reel easyer?
When you birds nest Fireline it comes right out. Its unbelievable stuff. Never digs in. Been using it exclusively for over 15 or so years.
If you like braid, you will love Fireline! Its a fusion, not a braid. Never wraps your tip like braid can. NEVER!
Once Fireline un stiffens a bit from being new, It comes off like butter. Mono has memory and keeps that coil in it from being on the spool. 20 pound Fireline will straighten your 3/0 Octo hook on a snag. Stuff is fantastic. If more Powerpro users tried it I think they would switch.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 04:33:00 PM
Keeping demand down keeps the price down. :tup:
Post by: Smossy on July 10, 2013, 04:37:05 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 04:40:48 PM
You cant tell its flat unless you look at it close. Nothing compares. Especially mending while float fishing.
Dosent matter to me what ya fish with. Im not a Berkely rep. If more people tried it with an open mind, they may never go back.
Post by: Smossy on July 10, 2013, 04:42:07 PM
To a point. Its a fused line thats pressed together under pressure and heat. I have 1000's of hours using everything out there. Nothing compares. Most just jump on the Power Pro boat and call it good.Im open minded to good line, thats why I asked. I usually just fish Maxima because I love its strength, and I do use PP for my braid. How well does it tie to mono for joining lines/leaders?
You cant tell its flat unless you look at it. Nothing compares. Dosent matter to me what ya fish with. Im not a Berkely rep. If more people tried it with an open mind, they may never go back.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 04:46:11 PM
And with any braid or fusion, use a few yards of mono off the spool and bloodknot to the fireline, or tie the fireline to the spool and use superglue to sucure the line from sliding on the spool. Its slippery stuff and casts awesome.
Post by: Smossy on July 10, 2013, 04:46:24 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 04:47:27 PM
To a point. Its a fused line thats pressed together under pressure and heat. I have 1000's of hours using everything out there. Nothing compares. Most just jump on the Power Pro boat and call it good.Im open minded to good line, thats why I asked. I usually just fish Maxima because I love its strength, and I do use PP for my braid. How well does it tie to mono for joining lines/leaders?
You cant tell its flat unless you look at it. Nothing compares. Dosent matter to me what ya fish with. Im not a Berkely rep. If more people tried it with an open mind, they may never go back.
Maxima is a great leader and main if you want Mono. Probably the best!
Post by: Smossy on July 10, 2013, 04:55:21 PM
Glad I came to like a good brand. I was with the spiderline hype for the longest time until I realized its just weak stuff. :dunno: Always was losing gear. Had to look for something new, Followed the prices, Instantly noticed the difference. :chuckle:To a point. Its a fused line thats pressed together under pressure and heat. I have 1000's of hours using everything out there. Nothing compares. Most just jump on the Power Pro boat and call it good.Im open minded to good line, thats why I asked. I usually just fish Maxima because I love its strength, and I do use PP for my braid. How well does it tie to mono for joining lines/leaders?
You cant tell its flat unless you look at it. Nothing compares. Dosent matter to me what ya fish with. Im not a Berkely rep. If more people tried it with an open mind, they may never go back.
Maxima is a great leader and main if you want Mono. Probably the best!
Post by: Fishaholic on July 10, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 10, 2013, 07:56:32 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 11, 2013, 06:37:08 AM
Is fireline around the same in price as powerpro?
You can get 125 yard spools of FL at Wallys for about 14 bucks.
Post by: huntnnw on July 11, 2013, 06:40:57 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 11, 2013, 06:47:00 AM
I woudlnt suggest putting braid on unless you have the spooler to do it....it needs to be put on tight
One more reason to use a fusion! Never been an issue with FL :tup:
Post by: bwhntr350 on July 11, 2013, 06:49:09 AM
So when should I put on braided instead of mono? I can cast without rat nests and I rarely get one. Does the braid come off the reel easyer?
When you birds nest Fireline it comes right out. Its unbelievable stuff. Never digs in. Been using it exclusively for over 15 or so years.
If you like braid, you will love Fireline! Its a fusion, not a braid. Never wraps your tip like braid can. NEVER!
Once Fireline un stiffens a bit from being new, It comes off like butter. Mono has memory and keeps that coil in it from being on the spool. 20 pound Fireline will straighten your 3/0 Octo hook on a snag. Stuff is fantastic. If more Powerpro users tried it I think they would switch.
I tried some Fireline this year for the first time. First fish that I hooked on it was a 2.5 small mouth. Line broke half way between the fish and my rod tip for no reason. Took the line off right there on the boat and respooled. When I got home I tossed the spool and the other spool that I had bought, brand new, never opened. Will not trust, ever!
Post by: huntnnw on July 11, 2013, 06:51:01 AM
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 11, 2013, 07:21:46 AM
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 11, 2013, 07:22:59 AM
Ill never use fireline..junk..like wire! I watch a buddy use that crap steelheading with me..snapping main line all day long. no thanksI've never snapped power pro unless I just got hung up really bad. :yike:
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 11, 2013, 07:27:40 AM
Post by: h20hunter on July 11, 2013, 07:41:54 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on July 11, 2013, 01:03:01 PM
So when should I put on braided instead of mono? I can cast without rat nests and I rarely get one. Does the braid come off the reel easyer?
When you birds nest Fireline it comes right out. Its unbelievable stuff. Never digs in. Been using it exclusively for over 15 or so years.
If you like braid, you will love Fireline! Its a fusion, not a braid. Never wraps your tip like braid can. NEVER!
Once Fireline un stiffens a bit from being new, It comes off like butter. Mono has memory and keeps that coil in it from being on the spool. 20 pound Fireline will straighten your 3/0 Octo hook on a snag. Stuff is fantastic. If more Powerpro users tried it I think they would switch.
I use fireline and powerpro. I personally don't see a real benefit to either. They're both work good for their applications. However, powerpro's new superslick 8, is a step above them both. From now on, that's the only superline I will be spooling. :twocents:
Post by: MtnMuley on July 11, 2013, 01:06:24 PM
To a point. Its a fused line thats pressed together under pressure and heat. I have 1000's of hours using everything out there. Nothing compares. Most just jump on the Power Pro boat and call it good.Im open minded to good line, thats why I asked. I usually just fish Maxima because I love its strength, and I do use PP for my braid. How well does it tie to mono for joining lines/leaders?
You cant tell its flat unless you look at it. Nothing compares. Dosent matter to me what ya fish with. Im not a Berkely rep. If more people tried it with an open mind, they may never go back.
No terminal tackle here for joinging leaders to mono or flouro. Modified Albright knot. I'll never tie a double uni or bloodknot again.
Post by: DoubleJ on July 13, 2013, 11:08:22 PM
Post by: MatthewHunter98 on July 15, 2013, 10:17:57 PM