Post by: jgrimes on July 09, 2013, 11:19:57 PM
Check out their newest creation. What does everyone think?
Post by: Smossy on July 09, 2013, 11:32:21 PM
Post by: Jellymon on July 10, 2013, 12:13:54 AM
Post by: RadSav on July 10, 2013, 12:17:38 AM
Post by: Jellymon on July 10, 2013, 12:20:30 AM
Post by: RadSav on July 10, 2013, 12:24:05 AM
MSRP is $849. Bowtech has been pretty strict about that. A dealer could get in some hot water if he sells it for $750. And, I don't know why a dealer would want to. It's already around $500 less than a Hoyt :o
Post by: RadSav on July 10, 2013, 06:37:23 AM
You can probably guess, can't you?
Post by: jgrimes on July 10, 2013, 08:19:38 AM
Makes me laugh! Hoyt management is probably poopin' hot rocks about now :chuckle:
I checked Hoyt's social media updates yesterday and everything was centered around their carbon line. The overall weight of the bare bow is actually what will probably prevent me from purchasing one although I know it's going to be a huge draw for most. I like a bow with a lil weight ;) .
Post by: JPhelps on July 10, 2013, 08:22:04 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 08:52:09 AM
However, I love the looks of it!
Post by: Jellymon on July 10, 2013, 09:00:29 AM
Wonder why they did not use the Center Pivot design?
However, I love the looks of it!
Theyre probably saving that for their 2014 flagship. The knight is probably a test bow to see if any problems arise from the new material/design before putting out the bow with all the goodies on it(OD cams, flexguard, center pivot)
Post by: demontang on July 10, 2013, 11:33:40 AM
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Post by: MtnMuley on July 10, 2013, 02:18:25 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 10, 2013, 02:35:45 PM
What happen to "refuse to follow"?
Actually it was Diamond Archery that produced the first carbon riser bow back in the late 80's before Bowtech owned the name. Win & Win/Carbontech perfected it with newer processing for durability prior to the Element. Hoyt just made it popular even though the Element and Matrix are about the same weight as the Spyder. So technically I'm not so sure they are following anyone except the previous Diamond designers :dunno:
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 10, 2013, 02:42:54 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 10, 2013, 03:17:07 PM
Didn't high country make a carbon bow also.
Yep! I think it was called the Exploder. Or maybe it was the Wholly Crap What Just Happened. Or maybe it was the Man That Hurt. I just can't remember :chuckle:
Post by: demontang on July 10, 2013, 04:22:27 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 10, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 10, 2013, 04:36:11 PM
LMAO! Funny how other manufacturers are chasing "The Element"
Got to be one of the most hidious looking bows of modern day. I call it the "spegetti factory".
Post by: RadSav on July 10, 2013, 05:37:43 PM
Maybe that's why they ran over the Hoyt bow. They weren't trying to test the durability...they were trying to see if it would bolt up to the headers :dunno:
Post by: hughjorgan on July 10, 2013, 06:22:45 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 10, 2013, 07:21:24 PM
This should at least provide some competition to Hoyt and hopefully drive the price of Hoyts Carbon bows down. MSRP on the Bowtech Carbon Knight is $849 vs Hoyts $1200 dollar price tag.
Oh I bet the $1,200 Bowtech is only six months away. But Hoyt won't have an answer for that one.
Post by: demontang on July 10, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 11, 2013, 12:43:20 AM
I never under stood the hole tube look either.
I think I understand it. :dunno: It's like Toyota Prius and Honda Civic hybrid.
Writers, drivers and engineers all reviewed the Honda Civic Hybrid and said it was a superior vehicle in every way. But the greenies did not like the fact it looked like every other car on the road. Toyota on the other hand made the Prius so damn ugly everyone took notice. Every one of your peers now knew at a glance you were better than them. Sure you were becoming a green smug bug who's farts no longer smelled, but heck you over paid for a piece of crap that was uglier than sin itself. You were entitled. Toyota is so proud of the ugly smugness they call the new car the Prius Persona Definition of PERSONA: [New Latin, from Latin] : an individual's social façade or front that reflects the role in life the individual is playing
From an engineering standpoint the tubes are a neat idea and solid science. The fact that everyone at the range knew you had dropped $1,400.00 for a bow just by a glance...well all the sudden your farts didn't smell so bad! Forget the fact it wasn't really any lighter, no more accurate, and it barely made 325 fps IBO. Range commando's no longer needed to ask you if you were cool. They just knew by looking at your
Please direct all hate mail to: ID10T@flash99:99:99.com
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 11, 2013, 08:08:00 AM
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Post by: pianoman9701 on July 11, 2013, 08:34:54 AM
I'm a hoyt shooter and still don't own a carbon bow. I get a new bow just about every year. I am just not cool enough to own a carbon bow yet I guess.
You're fortunate, D-Rock. I get a new bow whenever mine de-lams and I send it in for warrantee replacement! :chuckle: I usually end up shooting the same equipment for 6-8 years. I really appreciate the customer service at Archery World and Hoyt when this happens (normally just weeks before the season opener). I've sent in two and they didn't even balk at shipping and replacing them.
Post by: bullcanyon on July 11, 2013, 08:57:13 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 11, 2013, 09:02:05 AM
Post by: demontang on July 11, 2013, 12:56:07 PM
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Post by: WAbowhntr on July 12, 2013, 08:04:23 AM
Post by: RadSav on July 12, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
So the next time you see a lonely archer at the end of the range shooting a carbon Hoyt go down and strike up a conversation with him or her. What you might find is a person who simply preferred that bow over others they shot. He'll they might even let you touch their bow if it's chilly outside and your hands are cold.
Not sure I want to do that if their farts are nauseating. :chuckle: But I do agree. Though it is fun to give the Hoyt guys a little grief. They take it so well ;) Good post.
Post by: cocogirl on July 17, 2013, 06:24:13 PM
Thank you :) :tup:
Post by: brianb231 on July 17, 2013, 10:21:32 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 18, 2013, 12:56:55 AM
I was at Grizzly Archery in Yakima and they had one in there. It was very light but just looked cheap to me and the finish was very cheap and toy like. Now I am a bowtech fan but at first look I was not impressed. But it was very light.
I think that look starts to grow on you after a while. Especially when your painted bows start to chip and fade while your black carbon riser keeps that clean new look. I had the same response when I got my first Carbon Tech bow. Now it looks like a modern marvel to me. ;) To me it looks better than gluing caps on the end of a bunch of tubes so I can mount a limb to them.
A friend of mine who absolutely loves his Hoyt Carbon Element heard me talking about the hubcaps on the end of the Hoyt carbon tubes. He says, "What are you talking about. My Element doesn't have those!" Later that evening after he got home he calls me laughing. Guess he went straight to the bow case to take a look at his pride and joy. Sure enough his Hoyt does have the hub caps :o Once he stops laughing he says, "I guess I was so blinded by her incredible beauty and awesome Hoyt logo I just never noticed the badonkadonk before now."
I think I dated a girl like that once :chuckle:
Post by: demontang on July 18, 2013, 07:18:41 PM
Post by: Archery King on July 19, 2013, 12:46:58 AM
Post by: RadSav on July 19, 2013, 12:53:05 AM
I shot the Carbon Night last week end. Very nice bow but felt to light to me didn't feel comfortable. Glad I went with the Bowtech Experience! couldn't be happier
I did not find it too light, but I did feel the heavy limbs and light riser made an odd combination that felt awkward. Can't wait for the January release!
Bowtech Experience :tup: :tup: Easily the best bow for 2013 IMO. Though I still can't believe we need $1,000 bows these days.
Post by: WAbowhntr on July 19, 2013, 07:53:34 AM
Post by: irishevox on October 01, 2013, 05:06:25 AM
Post by: Stalker on October 01, 2013, 10:39:55 AM
where can i buy one been looking everywhere.
I spoke with them 2 weeks ago and they were out but expected to get some in last Tuesday / Wednesday. I believe they are the closest for us on WI.
•Wilderness Archery, 17697 Colony Road, Bow WA, 98232 360-724-3135
There are also a couple for sale on Archery Talk, see link below, at pretty good prices.
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/search.php?searchid=27233388 (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/search.php?searchid=27233388)
Post by: irishevox on October 01, 2013, 09:29:09 PM
Post by: RockCreekArchery on October 02, 2013, 06:31:22 PM
where can i buy one been looking everywhere.
Rock Creek Archery
930 Battersby Ave #105
Enumclaw, Wa
Carbon knight 70lb in stock
Post by: irishevox on October 02, 2013, 10:38:43 PM