Post by: de0827 on July 14, 2013, 03:44:50 PM
Thanks.
Post by: hughjorgan on July 14, 2013, 04:25:25 PM
Post by: GEARHEAD on July 14, 2013, 04:55:33 PM
Post by: buckfvr on July 14, 2013, 05:23:37 PM
Post by: westside bull on July 14, 2013, 05:25:56 PM
Been said on here many times, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.....................:yeah:
Post by: denali on July 14, 2013, 05:29:57 PM
Post by: Huntography on July 14, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
Luckily I have yet to have to use it.
Rudy
Post by: Ironhead on July 14, 2013, 06:00:28 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 14, 2013, 06:15:24 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on July 14, 2013, 06:31:52 PM
I always carry mine. Being proficient with your bow has NOTHING to do with it. It's about protection.
You can handle any problem with a bow that you can with a handgun. It isn't like you are going for a walk down rainier ave after dark. Like I said in my post above, if it MAKES you feel better by all means do it.
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 14, 2013, 06:40:27 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on July 14, 2013, 06:44:34 PM
I always carry mine. Being proficient with your bow has NOTHING to do with it. It's about protection.
I agree. I've tracked a bear I shot with a bow trough thick brush... That was enough for me. Not to mention tweakers and other dangerous two legged creatures.
Post by: hughjorgan on July 14, 2013, 07:09:54 PM
Totally disagree with you Hugh. If I suddenly have to deal with a tweeker in the woods drawing my pistol and pulling the trigger is much faster than bringing up your bow, knocking an arrow, draw, aim and release. And that is only if you happen to have your release already strapped on. Not to mention a gun is a bigger deterrent to a POS than a bow.
Never ran into any tweekers, I know everyone worries about the two legged predators and people just want to be prepared. I think most folks err on your side of thinking and not mine anyhow.
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 14, 2013, 07:11:36 PM
Neither have I, but better safe than sorry. But I agree it's a personal choice.Totally disagree with you Hugh. If I suddenly have to deal with a tweeker in the woods drawing my pistol and pulling the trigger is much faster than bringing up your bow, knocking an arrow, draw, aim and release. And that is only if you happen to have your release already strapped on. Not to mention a gun is a bigger deterrent to a POS than a bow.
Never ran into any tweekers, I know everyone worries about the two legged predators and people just want to be prepared. I think most folks err on your side of thinking and not mine anyhow.
Post by: Gunsmoke on July 14, 2013, 07:16:57 PM
Post by: Forks on July 14, 2013, 07:44:03 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 14, 2013, 08:02:03 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on July 14, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
Post by: MIKEXRAY on July 14, 2013, 08:24:15 PM
Post by: Axle on July 14, 2013, 08:43:47 PM
Post by: halfpipe88 on July 14, 2013, 08:58:09 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on July 14, 2013, 09:32:45 PM
When you fall and break your leg , little hard to single for help with a bow.
They make whistles... Or SPOT
Post by: ghosthunter on July 14, 2013, 09:41:27 PM
When you fall and break your leg , little hard to single for help with a bow.
They make whistles... Or SPOT
I carry both along with my handgun.
Post by: GEARHEAD on July 14, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
all i know is this, there is no 911, when your in the woods, you are 911. I think if you come from a gun culture, carrying a side arm would not be a bad idea, heck, ya own one, might as well carry it, after all, if your hand gun is not on your person, then its somewhere else.
There are those, and they are a majority i believe whom do not come from this culture, and despite an easily acquired skill, simply do not feel confident or comfortable carrying, it is a heavy burden with life changing legal implicationsand if you have to defend yourself. Bottom line to each there own.
Post by: Elkstuffer on July 14, 2013, 09:56:43 PM
I'm thinking there is a big difference in the type of two legged critters that are encountered on the West side vs the East side. lets not forget that every year during hunting season the reports start pouring in, about camps being raided, I'm thinking it would be kinda rough to arrive in camp with a bow and find out your not alone.
all i know is this, there is no 911, when your in the woods, you are 911. I think if you come from a gun culture, carrying a side arm would not be a bad idea, heck, ya own one, might as well carry it, after all, if your hand gun is not on your person, then its somewhere else.
There are those, and they are a majority i believe whom do not come from this culture, and despite an easily acquired skill, simply do not feel confident or comfortable carrying, it is a heavy burden with life changing legal implicationsand if you have to defend yourself. Bottom line to each there own.
Well said GEARHEAD. There are also a lot of grow operations over here on the east side of the Cascades. I would hate to stumble into one just holding my bow. I'm definitely more concerned about running into a tweeker or a grower than I am a bear or a cougar. Before we were allowed to carry I did spend a sleepless night in my bivy sack when a sow and her cub wandered through my camp. I had an arrow in one hand and a knife in the other. Then I was worried I'd fall asleep and roll over onto my broadhead :chuckle:
Post by: huntnnw on July 14, 2013, 10:12:17 PM
I don't feel it necessary while hunting. Learn to be proficient with your bow. If it makes you feel better carrying one go for it. Only time I carry one is while scouting.
thats the last reason why I carry,,bunch of drug,thieving and shady people in the woods. Also you tell me what your bow is going to do to a pissed off black bear at yards that is charging? I have been in a couple of situations already with just a bow...not a good feeling
Post by: hughjorgan on July 14, 2013, 10:15:07 PM
I'm thinking there is a big difference in the type of two legged critters that are encountered on the West side vs the East side. lets not forget that every year during hunting season the reports start pouring in, about camps being raided, I'm thinking it would be kinda rough to arrive in camp with a bow and find out your not alone. isn't that when you jump over the hood of your Subaru and knock the tweeker to the ground and go MMA on him like trayvon on zimmerman :dunno:
all i know is this, there is no 911, when your in the woods, you are 911. I think if you come from a gun culture, carrying a side arm would not be a bad idea, heck, ya own one, might as well carry it, after all, if your hand gun is not on your person, then its somewhere else.
There are those, and they are a majority i believe whom do not come from this culture, and despite an easily acquired skill, simply do not feel confident or comfortable carrying, it is a heavy burden with life changing legal implicationsand if you have to defend yourself I know where you work you can't afford very good legal council :chuckle:. Bottom line to each there own.
Post by: GEARHEAD on July 14, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on July 14, 2013, 10:27:28 PM
I don't feel it necessary while hunting. Learn to be proficient with your bow. If it makes you feel better carrying one go for it. Only time I carry one is while scouting.
thats the last reason why I carry,,bunch of drug,thieving and shady people in the woods. Also you tell me what your bow is going to do to a pissed off black bear at yards that is charging? I have been in a couple of situations already with just a bow...not a good feeling
A lot less thieves and shady people in the woods than the city. I feel much safer in the woods than where I grew up and work now.
As far as a pissed off bear I would probably shat my pants and hope for the best.
Post by: washelkhunter on July 14, 2013, 10:30:04 PM
Post by: huntnnw on July 14, 2013, 10:47:27 PM
Post by: stevemiller on July 14, 2013, 11:19:30 PM
Post by: KenPCPilot on July 14, 2013, 11:55:29 PM
Post by: huntnnw on July 14, 2013, 11:57:56 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on July 15, 2013, 12:10:27 AM
I felt pretty inadequate with a PO bear at 10 yards with a bow
I bet a moose or an elk in the right circumstance could make you feel the same.
Last year I posted my scary encounter with an adult cougar. I called in an adult cougar to 17 yards during elk archery season near Mt. Adams. Also during the same hunt we ran into 2 elderly hunters in their 70s that told us someone had pulled a knife and threatened them over a damn camping site. Will i be packing this year? Yeah baby. A S&W 686 .357 magnum loaded with Hornaday critical defense ammo. Yes Mr. Mountain Kitty I can hit you at 25 yards.
No shot on the cougar at 17 yards?
Post by: huntnnw on July 15, 2013, 12:14:19 AM
Post by: Wiley on July 15, 2013, 05:37:17 AM
Post by: Special T on July 15, 2013, 06:01:37 AM
Post by: huntnnw on July 15, 2013, 06:53:21 AM
Post by: Fireant11 on July 15, 2013, 07:25:32 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on July 15, 2013, 07:34:44 AM
I'm thinking there is a big difference in the type of two legged critters that are encountered on the West side vs the East side. lets not forget that every year during hunting season the reports start pouring in, about camps being raided, I'm thinking it would be kinda rough to arrive in camp with a bow and find out your not alone.
all i know is this, there is no 911, when your in the woods, you are 911. I think if you come from a gun culture, carrying a side arm would not be a bad idea, heck, ya own one, might as well carry it, after all, if your hand gun is not on your person, then its somewhere else.
There are those, and they are a majority i believe whom do not come from this culture, and despite an easily acquired skill, simply do not feel confident or comfortable carrying, it is a heavy burden with life changing legal implicationsand if you have to defend yourself. Bottom line to each there own.
Well said GEARHEAD. There are also a lot of grow operations over here on the east side of the Cascades. I would hate to stumble into one just holding my bow. I'm definitely more concerned about running into a tweeker or a grower than I am a bear or a cougar. Before we were allowed to carry I did spend a sleepless night in my bivy sack when a sow and her cub wandered through my camp. I had an arrow in one hand and a knife in the other. Then I was worried I'd fall asleep and roll over onto my broadhead :chuckle:
Gearhead well spoken.
Your last sentence applies to all lethal defense. Not just a gun.
You defend yourself with a bow you got the same problems.
Post by: ghosthunter on July 15, 2013, 07:38:44 AM
And when I am hunting, all the more reason. :twocents:
Post by: Jack-Fir on July 15, 2013, 12:04:26 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 15, 2013, 12:11:45 PM
Always always always carryYep. I had this discussion with me nephew. Why do you carry? Because I can't wait 20 minutes for the cops if something really bad happens. Always have a plan. If I never need it, you'll never know I have it and it won't affect you. If the one-in-a-million life-threatening problem comes along and I'm carrying, everyone but the bad guy will be happy that I have it on me, especially me.
Post by: stevemiller on July 15, 2013, 12:40:42 PM
Post by: 2MANY on July 15, 2013, 01:05:22 PM
Cougar always make me feel unsafe so I always play it safe and wear a condom.
Post by: sticky on July 15, 2013, 01:34:45 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 15, 2013, 01:43:54 PM
If you're going to carry ever, why wouldn't you carry in the woods where there are sparse authorities and witnesses that might otherwise deter untoward behavior?
Post by: getreal711 on July 15, 2013, 01:49:03 PM
Post by: addicted2hunting on July 15, 2013, 04:00:14 PM
Post by: 270Flat on July 15, 2013, 04:17:32 PM
Post by: de0827 on July 15, 2013, 09:27:53 PM
Second, you got my name correct, but I have never been an attorney & never plan to.
Just curious why you are asking?
Thanks everyone for all the posts - much appreciated!
Post by: stevemiller on July 15, 2013, 09:38:34 PM
Post by: OOptics on July 16, 2013, 12:54:25 PM
This is my first year archery hunting (I have hunted with a rifle for 30+ years), and I'm thinking about buying a handgun to have while hunting. I am curious how many of you do this or don't, and why. :dunno:
Thanks.
This will be my first year carrying a pistol while bow hunting. I think it was against regulations before but a year or two ago they finally made it legal. My thing is that you never know what you will run into when out in the woods (especially by yourself like I often am). In my opinion it is better to be prepared for anything. If needed you can get a shot off a lot quicker with a pistol than you can with your bow for protection. Plus a pistol will supply stopping power when we all know bows don't. It is important to note that if you shoot an animal with a bow, you cannot "finish" it off with a pistol. You must use your legal hunting weapon. But I would say it is smart to carry a pistol with you while bow hunting. Just my opinion.
Post by: Jellymon on July 16, 2013, 05:58:46 PM
Someone last year sent a letter to wdfw asking if you could shoot grouse with your handgun archery hunting. The response from the wdfw was no. So if isn't legal for grouse its not legal for cougars or bears either.
It's in the first paragraph of the archery rules. Lol
1 Rules pertaining to all archery hunting seasons:
a It is unlawful for any person to carry or have in his possession any firearm while in the field archery hunting, during an archery season specified for that area, except for modern handguns carried for personal protection Modern handguns cannot be used to hunt big game or dispatch wounded big game during an archery, big game hunting season
Post by: CedarPants on July 16, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CDsQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwdfw.wa.gov%2Fpublications%2F00468%2Fwdfw00468.pdf&ei=Tu3lUf34HonkiALcsIGoCw&usg=AFQjCNEDt6NqxI__O33dyZ38ysUYdjDciA (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CDsQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwdfw.wa.gov%2Fpublications%2F00468%2Fwdfw00468.pdf&ei=Tu3lUf34HonkiALcsIGoCw&usg=AFQjCNEDt6NqxI__O33dyZ38ysUYdjDciA)
Post by: Smossy on July 16, 2013, 06:11:19 PM
Post by: buckfvr on July 16, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
Post by: CedarPants on July 16, 2013, 06:18:16 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/00469/wdfw00469.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/00469/wdfw00469.pdf)
Post by: stevemiller on July 16, 2013, 06:28:35 PM
Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.Just go with a hunting buddy(your girl) she can carry and watch your back
Post by: CedarPants on July 16, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
Seems unconstitutional to me though since i can legally carry my hunting rifle any where i want whenever i want with few exceptions,that it would be illegal to have it in the woods :dunno: :tup:
Well that's a whole different conversation :tup: You just told us to show you where it was ever written that they said you couldn't, so we did :chuckle:
Post by: Smossy on July 16, 2013, 06:43:13 PM
Yeah I probably will but I imagine there will be timmes when she wont be around.Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.Just go with a hunting buddy(your girl) she can carry and watch your back
Post by: stevemiller on July 16, 2013, 06:43:25 PM
Post by: CedarPants on July 16, 2013, 06:43:36 PM
For the record I agree with your assessment that it's unconstitutional
Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2013, 06:44:15 PM
Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.
Go hunting. Thousands of people do it every year. Up until 2-3 years ago, everyone in this state went bowhunting unarmed. Go for it.
Post by: stevemiller on July 16, 2013, 06:45:29 PM
Yep.and then it becomes choice for you to be out there without her i guess.thats the only suggestion i can give her or a friend that carriesYeah I probably will but I imagine there will be timmes when she wont be around.Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.Just go with a hunting buddy(your girl) she can carry and watch your back
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 16, 2013, 06:51:38 PM
Post by: stevemiller on July 16, 2013, 09:37:28 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2013, 09:58:38 PM
Yep.and then it becomes choice for you to be out there without her i guess.thats the only suggestion i can give her or a friend that carriesYeah I probably will but I imagine there will be timmes when she wont be around.Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.Just go with a hunting buddy(your girl) she can carry and watch your back
Or you could just go hunting. What would you guys have done 5 years ago when it was not legal to carry? I carry when bowhunting, but when I couldn't I still went.
Post by: huntnnw on July 16, 2013, 10:16:45 PM
Post by: stevemiller on July 16, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
Post by: huntnnw on July 16, 2013, 10:38:24 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 17, 2013, 06:10:03 AM
Yeah I probably will but I imagine there will be timmes when she wont be around.Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.Just go with a hunting buddy(your girl) she can carry and watch your back
You have no choice. You can't carry at the risk of losing your freedom for a long time.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 17, 2013, 06:25:00 AM
Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.
Dont even give it a thought. There were times when we couldent either, Some did anyway but most did not. Did not even stop to consider going out without. The hunt goes on!
You can die easier sitting on the couch eating potato chips getting fat and having a heart attack.
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 17, 2013, 06:28:39 AM
Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.
Dont even give it a thought. There were times when we couldent either, Some did anyway but most did not. Did not even stop to consider going out without. The hunt goes on!
You can die easier sitting on the couch eating potato chips getting fat and having a heart attack.
So, your advice to a felon is to carry while hunting? The chance of him getting checked by a gamie or other LE is much higher than the general population. I don't know about you, but I get checked every couple of years. All due respects, but your advice is terrible.
Post by: Bob33 on July 17, 2013, 06:28:46 AM
Yep.Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.
Dont even give it a thought. There were times when we couldent either, Some did anyway but most did not. Did not even stop to consider going out without. The hunt goes on!
You can die easier sitting on the couch eating potato chips getting fat and having a heart attack.
If my options were to hunt without a handgun or stay home I know which I would choose.
Post by: dscubame on July 17, 2013, 07:18:49 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 17, 2013, 07:36:28 AM
Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.
Dont even give it a thought. There were times when we couldent either, Some did anyway but most did not. Did not even stop to consider going out without. The hunt goes on!
You can die easier sitting on the couch eating potato chips getting fat and having a heart attack.
So, your advice to a felon is to carry while hunting? The chance of him getting checked by a gamie or other LE is much higher than the general population. I don't know about you, but I get checked every couple of years. All due respects, but your advice is terrible.
The way you interoperate that is terrible. You need to read a bit more careful. Lol
I told him to hunt and dont worry about having a gun.
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 17, 2013, 07:55:04 AM
Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.
Dont even give it a thought. There were times when we couldent either, Some did anyway but most did not. Did not even stop to consider going out without. The hunt goes on!
You can die easier sitting on the couch eating potato chips getting fat and having a heart attack.
So, your advice to a felon is to carry while hunting? The chance of him getting checked by a gamie or other LE is much higher than the general population. I don't know about you, but I get checked every couple of years. All due respects, but your advice is terrible.
The way you interoperate that is terrible. You need to read a bit more careful. Lol
I told him to hunt and dont worry about having a gun.
Sorry that I misread your post. :tup:
Post by: headshot5 on July 17, 2013, 08:01:31 AM
Edit: Where I hunt there are meth heads, bears, and cougars. I think wolves would be a different story and my opinion would need to re-evaluated at the point where I get into wolves while hunting.
Post by: CedarPants on July 17, 2013, 08:37:10 AM
I just don't get all the paranoia about being in thewoodscity without a firearm or weapon.
I changed your statement a bit, Obama loves it :chuckle:
I understand your sentiment and agree to an extent, but then again it's not up to you or I to judge WHY someone wants to carry a gun. They can because it's their right. End of story. :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on July 17, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
brace yourself.......
I like having a gun on my hip.....just because.
Post by: stevemiller on July 17, 2013, 09:36:47 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 17, 2013, 11:19:19 AM
I just don't get all the paranoia about being in the woods without a firearm or weapon. You folks that have such paranoia god help you if your lost after dark I imagine the mental game that kicks in will destroy you long before any animal that is way more afraid of you in reality.
A few years ago I did a cleanup on Weyerhaeuser land north of St. Helens for some Master Hunter hours. In one day, we came across two meth lab dump sites. That never happened before and hasn't happened since, but it made me stop and think about what would happen to me if I came across these guys while they were in the process. I've been carrying while hunting ever since. I'm not worried about bears and cougars at all. Never have been. Tweekers? That's another story.
Post by: washelkhunter on July 17, 2013, 11:57:30 AM
Bears are here, and wdfw warns of possible griz encounters in the cascades.
Cougars are here.
Wolves are here.
Wolverines are making a comeback.
Moose are here and can be very agressive as can elk and deer.
Rabid animal encounters, bobcat, coyote, raccoon etc.
Wild dog packs - possibly the most dangerous chance encounter.
Meth cookers and pot growers ARE in the NF and almost all are illegals - certainly the most dangerous threat to health and safety. They should be shot on sight imo.
Radical islamists are here and using the NF for training and have been instructed to start catastrophic wildfires. Think the last two years in colorado.
Criminals and crazies are living in the NF and preying on people and their property.
Animal rights activists are now engaged in deliberate action to disrupt hunting seasons in the field and issuing death threats to hunters in face to face encounters!
Folks have been challenged/threatened after harvesting an animal for possession of the carcass.
Outfitters and their guides and clients have deliberately harassed others in the field while they basically surround a trophy bull for days until its killed.
God forbid but I may have to put pianoman out of his misery should he become incapacitated in the back country this year.
Stay healthy my friend. :dunno:
These are possibilities we know to be true among many others, be prepared.
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 17, 2013, 11:59:23 AM
Post by: dscubame on July 17, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
I just don't get all the paranoia about being in thewoodscity without a firearm or weapon.
I changed your statement a bit, Obama loves it :chuckle:
I understand your sentiment and agree to an extent, but then again it's not up to you or I to judge WHY someone wants to carry a gun. They can because it's their right. End of story. :tup:
Your modification makes more sense I agree. I actually think about carrying my LCP or Glock in town and don't think once about it when going in the woods. Good point.
Post by: washelkhunter on July 17, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
Post by: bracer40 on July 17, 2013, 12:21:21 PM
After reading the posts on this thread it occurred to me I should have been much more fearful for the past 40 years out in the woods. Nearly always walking alone in the dark to and from stands, camping alone.....and always with no sidearm.
And to think, I used to believe I was more at risk in my drive to and from the field.............
Post by: nocklehead on July 17, 2013, 12:29:23 PM
Radical islamists are here and using the NF for training and have been instructed to start catastrophic wildfires. Think the last two years in colorado.
:tinfoil: LOL
Ok lets see a picture PLEASE next time you run across an Al-Cia-da camp around Peaches Ridge or Colville.....lol
Post by: ghosthunter on July 17, 2013, 12:31:54 PM
You want to know one of the reasons I carry while bow hunting........
brace yourself.......
I like having a gun on my hip.....just because.
Oh boy that is the best reason yet. I am holding hands with you. I love the feel of a gun on my person. Most the time I have two. :IBCOOL: :tup: :yeah: :hello:
Post by: washelkhunter on July 17, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Post by: nocklehead on July 17, 2013, 12:42:22 PM
Skamania cty 8 yrs ago or so 7 musloids were shooting up a gravel pit in the woods with automatic ak's preppin for something yelling all the while allahu akbar! You are living with your head in the sand if you dont think they arent here scheming and training for action. Knucklehead!
So muslims or American immigrants from cultures you dont understand cant go shooting out at the pit without it being "islamic extremist training"? For all you know they were thanking god for shooting straight. Lightning storms kill more people than "islamist extremists" calm down, take it out on a wolf.
Post by: washelkhunter on July 17, 2013, 12:49:20 PM
Post by: wonder on July 17, 2013, 06:36:20 PM
That's my main reason for carrying other than the fact that we now have to deal with wolf's that hunt in packs.
Post by: jackelope on July 17, 2013, 11:10:43 PM
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
Post by: JLS on July 17, 2013, 11:14:46 PM
So the bottom line to answer Smossy's question.....
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
Go hunting!
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 12:04:52 AM
So the bottom line to answer Smossy's question.....
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
lol :tup: Im not scared to hunt without a firearm at all, I was just curious to what people would do if they couldnt resort to just picking up a firearm. Thats not to say I wont have bear mace on my hip at the least.
Post by: JoeE on July 18, 2013, 12:31:17 AM
So the bottom line to answer Smossy's question.....
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
lol :tup: Im not scared to hunt without a firearm at all, I was just curious to what people would do if they couldnt resort to just picking up a firearm. Thats not to say I wont have bear mace on my hip at the least.
I rarely carry a sidearm when I hunt. I usually never do when I archery hunt.
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 12:33:13 AM
Thats good to hear, Everyone makes it seem like its such a big deal to have one all of a sudden :dunno:So the bottom line to answer Smossy's question.....
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
lol :tup: Im not scared to hunt without a firearm at all, I was just curious to what people would do if they couldnt resort to just picking up a firearm. Thats not to say I wont have bear mace on my hip at the least.
I rarely carry a sidearm when I hunt. I usually never do when I archery hunt.
Post by: stevemiller on July 18, 2013, 01:09:29 AM
Post by: stevemiller on July 18, 2013, 01:12:51 AM
So the bottom line to answer Smossy's question.....As for this statement,his post was a good question the most obvious answer would be go with out it any way.we went around it to other scenarios maybe just maybe for the antis that look at this site and maybe say hey there a bunch of hunters on here that dont really think you need to carry at all while hunting,wow is that hard to figure out?do you carry concealed? why? :bash: :bash:
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 18, 2013, 05:55:34 AM
So the bottom line to answer Smossy's question.....
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
Of course I'd still hunt if I couldn't carry. Really Jack?
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2013, 09:25:52 AM
I don't carry concealed. I do carry when I'm hunting with my bow.So the bottom line to answer Smossy's question.....As for this statement,his post was a good question the most obvious answer would be go with out it any way.we went around it to other scenarios maybe just maybe for the antis that look at this site and maybe say hey there a bunch of hunters on here that dont really think you need to carry at all while hunting,wow is that hard to figure out?do you carry concealed? why? :bash: :bash:
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
I'm pretty sure it was you earlier in the thread who suggested, when his girlfriend couldn't go(armed) with him, he should find someone else to go with who could back him up.
Yeah really...based on some of the posts made in this thread, I wasn't sure. Lions, tigers, bears, meth heads, al qaeda cells?, oh my!!So the bottom line to answer Smossy's question.....
If you CAN'T carry, do you guys just not go then?? No more 27 different scenarios why you need one...if you flat out CAN'T CARRY...what do you do?? By some of the comments here, I'm guessing 1 or 2 of you lock yourselves in the basement.
Of course I'd still hunt if I couldn't carry. Really Jack?
I also know some people carried when it was illegal to while bowhunting or muzzleloader hunting as well. Dunno...Really, I guess, I just had the same curiosity as Smossy did on this topic. Pretty sure I'm not alone in this thinking/wondering.
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Thats good to hear, Everyone makes it seem like its such a big deal to have one all of a sudden
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lol Im not scared to hunt without a firearm at all, I was just curious to what people would do if they couldnt resort to just picking up a firearm. Thats not to say I wont have bear mace on my hip at the least.
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Dang,
After reading the posts on this thread it occurred to me I should have been much more fearful for the past 40 years out in the woods. Nearly always walking alone in the dark to and from stands, camping alone.....and always with no sidearm.
And to think, I used to believe I was more at risk in my drive to and from the field.............
Flame on. I've got my fire suit on.
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 18, 2013, 09:32:59 AM
Post by: lostbackpacker on July 18, 2013, 09:52:35 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 18, 2013, 10:03:42 AM
When I was archery hunting, i always carried. did I always have a cpl? NO, but I carried anyways.
Dont need a CPL when doing outdoor activities to carry concealed....
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on July 18, 2013, 11:05:29 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2013, 11:29:43 AM
If I remember right you must have a cpl in Washington. To possess a handgun WHILE bowhunting as of two years ago. Concealed or not.
Completely the opposite. Actually you do not need a CPL to carry a handgun while engaged in any legal outdoor activity. You can even carry it concealed. The law change that happened a couple years ago said it was now legal to carry a sidearm for personal protection while bowhunting or muzzleloader hunting. Before the law changed, it was illegal to carry while bowhunting or muzz hunting....period.
Post by: CedarPants on July 18, 2013, 12:16:41 PM
If I remember right you must have a cpl in Washington. To possess a handgun WHILE bowhunting as of two years ago. Concealed or not.
Completely the opposite. Actually you do not need a CPL to carry a handgun while engaged in any legal outdoor activity. You can even carry it concealed. The law change that happened a couple years ago said it was now legal to carry a sidearm for personal protection while bowhunting or muzzleloader hunting. Before the law changed, it was illegal to carry while bowhunting or muzz hunting....period.
:yeah:
It was illegal to have one at all while bow hunting up until 2009. In 2009 they changed it to say it was legal but only for those with a CPL. Then they did away with the CPL requirement altogether shortly after that
Post by: BowtechGigi on July 18, 2013, 02:20:46 PM
Post by: Styles on July 20, 2013, 11:54:53 PM
Post by: returnofsid on July 21, 2013, 08:57:12 AM
Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.
Being pretty new to this forum, I don't know your background, but I'm assuming it's similar to mine. I'll also be out in the woods, with my bow, without the ability to carry a sidearm. Much of my hunting will be in areas known for grizzly and wolves. While sometimes I'll be with my son, who possesses a CPL and carries a .45, a lot of the time I'll be alone. I suppose I should invest in some bear spray...lol. I'm not at all concerned about a life threatening confrontation, with a 4 legged critter.
Post by: coachcw on July 21, 2013, 11:11:38 AM
Post by: Styles on July 21, 2013, 06:57:29 PM
for those who don't carry wait intill you have a grizz take an elk from you , man you feel tiny . I've never been worried about people or blackies in the woods . I've had two experiances one with a grizz and one with a cougar that followed me for about a half mile in the twilight . I feel better packing and with the wolves becoming more previlant it adds peace of mind to me.
Just like you coachcw, wife and I came face to face with a cougar at 10 yeards!! I was carrying but it wasnt very accessible, I have now changed how I carry my sidearm!! I now roll a thigh holster so I can retrieve it a lot quicker!! That was a reality check for sure!! They sure are sneaky!! hahaha
Post by: hughjorgan on July 21, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
for those who don't carry wait intill you have a grizz take an elk from you , man you feel tiny . I've never been worried about people or blackies in the woods . I've had two experiances one with a grizz and one with a cougar that followed me for about a half mile in the twilight . I feel better packing and with the wolves becoming more previlant it adds peace of mind to me.
You had a grizz take an elk from you in this state or while hunting another one?
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Post by: runngun on July 21, 2013, 09:24:34 PM
Alot of you know my background and this is a serious question as to Ill only be archery hunting and this in fact will also be y first year out, hunting period... If you were in my shoes, unable to handle a sidear what would you do? I just want to hear what others have to say about it.
Anytime I'm scouting or hunting I carry my fixed blade knife on my weak side hip. I used to carry bear spray on my right hip before the laws changed to allow carrying handguns while archery hunting. If you are worried about added protection, carry a large knife with easy access and/or bear spray for large critters. Don't let it stop you from going out. I am kinda surprised at how many people carry a sidearm for protection but don't carry the "10 essentials" or some other small kit with survival essentials. :twocents: