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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: bankwalker on October 20, 2008, 12:22:57 PM

Title: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 20, 2008, 12:22:57 PM: im looking at getting a new rifle just for brush and im really liking the H&R handi rifle in 357. its light, single shot, and just different. most shots are under 50yds and i can shoot 200gr bullets out of a 20" barrel. and when i just wanna play around i can shoot 38spl.

so 357 is legal for deer and i know guys who hunt with that caliber and 8" revolvers with good results.

so out of a 20" barrel wouldnt the balistics be better?

i can also get the same gun in 44mag. BUT would rather have the 357mag

what do you guys think?
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: CP on October 20, 2008, 01:11:51 PM: Sounds like a sweet setup. As long as you understand the limitations of the weapon and use the right ammo it should be more than adequate for deer. You will get slightly better ballistics from a 20” barrel (compared to a pistol) but the biggest advantages are the longer site radius and added support of shoulder firing.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: jdb on October 20, 2008, 06:39:01 PM: ive often thought about the same set up. let me know how you like it! JB
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 20, 2008, 10:02:34 PM: Quote from: jdb on October 20, 2008, 06:39:01 PM
ive often thought about the same set up. let me know how you like it! JB

yeah for $200 and able to throw a 20g barrel on it you cant beat it. and 200gr out of a 357 at close range (under 50yds) is far more then enough for any deer im gonna be shooting.

only problem is that i cant find a cheap 2x scope with normal eye relief.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: jackelope on October 20, 2008, 10:14:28 PM: Quote
[only problem is that i cant find a cheap 2x scope with normal eye relief./quote]

1-4x ??
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: CP on October 21, 2008, 07:36:32 AM: You might want to try a red dot.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 21, 2008, 12:27:00 PM: i was thinking a red dot would work but the guy at the shop said they arent legal in this state?

also getting a peep mounted would be sweet.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: CP on October 21, 2008, 12:42:39 PM: I believe the shop guy is wrong. A red dot would be illegal for a muzzleloader but for a modern rifle it isn’t. Lasers are illegal, but red dots do not project a beam onto the target.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: jackelope on October 21, 2008, 07:36:43 PM: that would mean you could use a battery powered illuminated scope, which is not legal as far as i know.

i could be wrong.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 22, 2008, 09:14:06 AM: yeah thats why i think he said it was not legal.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: MHWASH on October 22, 2008, 11:34:41 AM: There's nothing in the regs that say no illuminated scopes. No night vision or laser sights. Not including laser rangefinders.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 22, 2008, 11:37:08 AM: Quote from: MHWASH on October 22, 2008, 11:34:41 AM
There's nothing in the regs that say no illuminated scopes. No night vision or laser sights. Not including laser rangefinders.

so that much be just for muzzleloader and archery that we cant have electronics.

im gonna pick the gun up on the 1st when i get paid. and gonna have a peep sight mounted. i think taht would be a much better option then having a scope on it. and im gonna go with a 44mag i think.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: Sagedawg on October 22, 2008, 02:52:07 PM: They also chamber that for the 500 S&W. Might be something to consider.

Sage
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 22, 2008, 02:57:03 PM: Quote from: Sagedawg on October 22, 2008, 02:52:07 PM
They also chamber that for the 500 S&W. Might be something to consider.

Sage

true but they are ALOT heavier then the 357 and 44.

i really like the 500 though but if i was gonna get a single shot 500 it would be a tc pro hunter with 20" fluted barrel and peep sight.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: 700xcr on October 22, 2008, 07:53:27 PM: I have a Marlin 1894C lever gun in the 357mag. 18.5" barrel and shooting Federal American Eagle 158gr. soft point ammo. Chronographed them at 1835fps. Chronographed same load out of a Smith and Wesson 686 6" revolver at 1330fps. I have the Ashley Ghost Ring sight on the lever gun and love it. Also have the Scout scope mount on the gun. Have a Leupold 2x eer scope with Warn quick detach rings. Have taken ground squirrels with this gun. It is a nice low recoiling packing gun. The factory loads are cheap enough for me and only have 4fps. devation between shots.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 22, 2008, 08:09:31 PM: those numbers are good.

i was also looking at a marlin but the price tag is alot more then i wanna spend.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: 700xcr on October 22, 2008, 08:20:17 PM: Another option which I did for my son was go to Big Five Sporting Goods and they have the Marlins with the Hardwood stock instead of the Walnut stock and they alway have them on sale for about $150.00 cheaper. Only difference is the stock. It is worth while if you are interested. I love the availability of having 9 round in the magazine tube and one in the chamber. Then I have the wallet type ammo carrier in my back pocket and off to the woods I go.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 22, 2008, 08:26:13 PM: yeah the big 5's around here dont have marlins anymore. they carry puma lever actions lol

i'd much rather stick with a single shot. the type of brush i would be hunting in with this make it almost impossible to get 1 shout let alone a second shot.

i would like to get a tc contender in 30-30 or pro hunter in 460s&w or 500 s&w but again the price tag is far more then i wanna spend. and i would have to sell my other rifle (which is forsale to buy said rifle) but getting the tc would give me the chance if i wanted another rifle to just buy a barrel instead of an entire new rifle.

there are only a few local places that carry a full tc contender or encore. most other places only carry barrels or frames but not both for some reason.

and i have yet to get a local shop to let me get a rifle shipped to them. and getting my ffl is really not worth it to get just one rifle shipped from out of state.

i seem to always have that problem when i have all the money in the world to get what i want.

so ill stick with the H&R and have the same fun hunting the type of hunting i like. thick and nasty brush. do it with a setup under $300 and do it for less then the price of an encore barrel alone :chuckle:
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: jackelope on October 22, 2008, 08:28:58 PM: mike...i have gun shops lined up all over the east side that will ship a gun for me whenever i decide to pony up the $$ to get my stuff shipped from NY. let me know if you need a name. it is easy to find one, you just have to ask the right people.
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: bankwalker on October 22, 2008, 08:36:32 PM: Quote from: jackelope on October 22, 2008, 08:28:58 PM
mike...i have gun shops lined up all over the east side that will ship a gun for me whenever i decide to pony up the $$ to get my stuff shipped from NY. let me know if you need a name. it is easy to find one, you just have to ask the right people.

cool. ive asked alot of the shops from everett to federal way and its always the same answer. " get your cpl and we will talk" well i got it now and the answers are still no. jerks anyway.

p.s. wanna buy a rifle ;)
Title: Re: h&r 357mag singleshot rifle?
Post by: jackelope on October 22, 2008, 08:41:18 PM: pm sent