Post by: machine on July 25, 2013, 06:01:30 PM
Post by: C-Money on July 25, 2013, 06:03:58 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 25, 2013, 06:05:53 PM
Post by: h20hunter on July 25, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
Post by: coachcw on July 25, 2013, 06:25:57 PM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on July 25, 2013, 06:32:03 PM
This aint the first time, or second, or probably third. I've seen this time and time again with her. :dunno:in 6 months of membership? Hmm. You ever taken anything to her? Ever met her? Michele is a straight up kind of person im sure there is a good explanation.
i cant stand an internet lynch mob when it comes to someones livleyhood. If you dont know the reason hold onto your opinion until the accused has a chance to explain! :bash:
Post by: Timberstalker on July 25, 2013, 06:35:38 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on July 25, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
Instead of rallying a mob and lighting torches and grabbing pitch forks why not give Michelle a chance to handle this in a professional business woman / client manner. IE amongst themselves and not try to air a bunch of speculated dirty laundry in the open
Post by: Smossy on July 25, 2013, 06:48:16 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on July 25, 2013, 07:07:08 PM
Where are you guys getting the whole lynch mob thing from?
Past threads of a similar nature and topic
Post by: Fowlweather25 on July 25, 2013, 07:10:12 PM
However i think after having spent countless hours on this forum i wish people would realize that running a business has its ups and downs. When its down its hard to get caught up and same as when its busy. I feel like there is a good explanation as to why she has been sliding latley. People on this forum and others have a tendancy to figurativley hang someone because the heard a mistake was made. I dont want people to come on here and form a sideline opinion of someone that they dont know and discount her work because shes having a hard time.
Hopefully she pulls it together, again im sure there is a good reason.
Post by: Elkstuffer on July 25, 2013, 07:39:53 PM
Michelle IS a stand up person and I'm sure she has a good explanation.
Post by: machine on July 25, 2013, 07:41:27 PM
Michelle has been an integral part of this website and always receives good reviews from customers on this website.Always?You might of missed a few threads
Post by: machine on July 25, 2013, 07:43:49 PM
If you are that upset about it Machine why haven't you driven down to see her. You aren't that far away. I just think that it could be handled a lot differently than to attack her on this site. But hey it's just my opinion.Why should I burn half a tank of gas to mabe catch her at home?Seems like returning a customers phone calls a little more reasonable.
Michelle IS a stand up person and I'm sure she has a good explanation.
Post by: machine on July 25, 2013, 07:44:57 PM
Seems like he's more caught up in 6 months than some of the veterans on here.This aint the first time, or second, or probably third. I've seen this time and time again with her. :dunno:in 6 months of membership? Hmm. You ever taken anything to her? Ever met her? Michele is a straight up kind of person im sure there is a good explanation.
i cant stand an internet lynch mob when it comes to someones livleyhood. If you dont know the reason hold onto your opinion until the accused has a chance to explain! :bash:
Post by: Fowlweather25 on July 25, 2013, 07:51:11 PM
Post by: Smossy on July 25, 2013, 07:51:32 PM
I have no job. What else am I going to do. :dunno: Chuckle:Seems like he's more caught up in 6 months than some of the veterans on here.This aint the first time, or second, or probably third. I've seen this time and time again with her. :dunno:in 6 months of membership? Hmm. You ever taken anything to her? Ever met her? Michele is a straight up kind of person im sure there is a good explanation.
i cant stand an internet lynch mob when it comes to someones livleyhood. If you dont know the reason hold onto your opinion until the accused has a chance to explain! :bash:
Post by: Whitelightning on July 25, 2013, 08:01:02 PM
I'm sure Michelle has a dang good reason. I've had work done by Michelle in the past and she was always upfront about what was going on. She had a bear of mine a few years ago during the tannery dilemma that affected her and a couple other of our resident huntwa taxis and she was straight and to the point about the delay.
Instead of rallying a mob and lighting torches and grabbing pitch forks why not give Michelle a chance to handle this in a professional business woman / client manner. IE amongst themselves and not try to air a bunch of speculated dirty laundry in the open
I agree I had a bear with her during the same time, no issue with communication and her work is excelent.
Post by: mtbshark on July 25, 2013, 08:02:05 PM
As in the Michelle that is a sponsor here? That dont make sense. I bet she shows up on here and makes things right and tell her side of the story.
Wow if this is a thread about a site sponsor and it is a recurring theme, maybe this place needs to look into who can be a sponsor.
I would like to hear her side but man in reality how much time is reasonable for a taxi to have your gear?
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Post by: machine on July 25, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
Seems like you just want to ruin someone cause they made a mistake! Wish i was as perfect as you! Do you know the reasons? What if there was an emergency and you just ruined her business because of it? Pretty crappy thing to do exposing someone like that! :twocents:I just want my property back.The only thing I'm exposing is my experience dealing with her.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on July 25, 2013, 08:33:18 PM
Post by: Alan K on July 25, 2013, 08:38:34 PM
:twocents:
Post by: flinger on July 25, 2013, 08:41:06 PM
Post by: JoeE on July 25, 2013, 08:46:43 PM
Post by: smdave on July 25, 2013, 08:47:09 PM
July 01, 2013, 11:04:23 PM
We had her do a euro whitetail mount and were very happy, looks like something else is going on. She does really good work and is worth the wait.
sorry about the communication problems I would think there is an explanation.
Post by: fillthefreezer on July 25, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 25, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
i believe shes on vaca. id try back after the 1st :tup:
:tup:
Post by: sirmissalot on July 25, 2013, 09:50:46 PM
This is the second thread like this is the last several months. There are lots of good taxidermists out there that will get your stuff back in a reasonable time. :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: machine on July 25, 2013, 10:13:21 PM
Has she communicated with you at all during those three years? If I remember correctly i think she mentioned having some family issues/illness in the last couple of years.The last time I talked to her was October of last year.She said she was tired from deer hunting and would call me back but never did.Before that she called me to ask if I was the one who started the reasonable time frame thread.During that conversation I was told my bear would be started in a couple weeks.I have left many voice messages.I can understand tannery problems and getting behind on rugs but the two things that got this thread started are the lack of communication and a 3 year wait on a skull cleaning
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on July 25, 2013, 10:20:30 PM
Has she communicated with you at all during those three years? If I remember correctly i think she mentioned having some family issues/illness in the last couple of years.The last time I talked to her was October of last year.She said she was tired from deer hunting and would call me back but never did.Before that she called me to ask if I was the one who started the reasonable time frame thread.During that conversation I was told my bear would be started in a couple weeks.I have left many voice messages.I can understand tannery problems and getting behind on rugs but the two things that got this thread started are the lack of communication and a 3 year wait on a skull cleaning
On her FB page I just noticed it said "former" taxidermist at Michelle Nelson's Taxidermy... I wonder if she has stopped doing taxidermy. :dunno:
Post by: mtbshark on July 25, 2013, 11:21:23 PM
my son is a taxi in Texas and he says the problem is that there is way less taxis now than in the past and more hunters now than before.so either learn to do it yourself or give them the time they need to do them right.just think if there is ten taxis in wa. that do great work and there is thousands of jobs to do each year there will be a back log and complaining about them doesnt help especially if they quite doing it because of the unhappy customers.and that might be just what she did...so thanks.
Wow found the deep end did ya!
The "so thanks" is pretty jerk like.
The issue is her lack of communication.
And another point is unhappy customers don't just walk in the door they are cause of lack luster work.
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Post by: bobcat on July 25, 2013, 11:31:21 PM
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On her FB page I just noticed it said "former" taxidermist at Michelle Nelson's Taxidermy... I wonder if she has stopped doing taxidermy.
No, I assure you she is still doing taxidermy. She better be, she has my turkey from this spring!
But yes, as others have said, she is on vacation right now.
Post by: mtbshark on July 25, 2013, 11:34:37 PM
The op is obviously at wits end and has no resolve in sight so why crap on his topic?
Seems to me like other than involving the man he has tried everything to get his work or his gear back.
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Post by: mtbshark on July 25, 2013, 11:44:15 PM
New or old a person should have equal voice, especially on this sort of topic!
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Post by: Bean Counter on July 26, 2013, 12:33:39 AM
Post by: mtbshark on July 26, 2013, 12:42:43 AM
So now that is over with how about we focus back on the op's topic.
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Post by: machine on July 26, 2013, 03:15:37 AM
Post by: machine on July 26, 2013, 04:25:40 AM
I agree,question though why would you pay someone to do a simple euro?or is the bear rug getting done with the euro scheme?How big is the bear?Did you get them with rifle or bow?Because i live in a townhouse and don't want to deal with the smell.Bear is north of 6 ft killed with a 308
Post by: fastdam on July 26, 2013, 04:45:05 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 26, 2013, 05:26:05 AM
Post by: boneaddict on July 26, 2013, 05:40:03 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 26, 2013, 06:02:54 AM
Post by: seth30 on July 26, 2013, 06:07:39 AM
This is a prime example of what the internet does for you ...when you are on a site like this and it is all hunters and taxidermists and who ever else is using the site and are counting on the people who advertise their business like Michelle and they are good at what they do and then they get way more than they can handle and it causes issues like this ...I know she does awesome work ...and most of us have watched them blossom into some fine taxidermists and getting better everyday , I hope you have your facts straight before making such negative comments ...It takes a lot of time to get animals out the door especially when your good and your buried in animals to get done ... :twocents::yeah: X2
Post by: 92xj on July 26, 2013, 06:20:58 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,117996.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,117996.0.html)
These post do seem to pop up a lot more often than I would like to see for someone doing work for me.
Post by: billythekidrock on July 26, 2013, 06:23:59 AM
Communication is key. If you come off abrasive and demanding you may not get the response you want, if you get a response at all.
Post by: sirmissalot on July 26, 2013, 06:37:40 AM
It only takes a minute to answer the phone or return a call...
Post by: Rooster1981 on July 26, 2013, 06:46:54 AM
I agree that nearly three years is a long time to wait. I personally Don't mind waiting for good results. My first deer mount took six months to complete. My second deer mount took 18 months. The difference in quality is night and day. If you want a fast turn around there are alot of cheap taxi's out there that will knock it out for ya quick. Just don't expect good results.
Post by: JoeE on July 26, 2013, 07:13:53 AM
Communication is key. If you come off abrasive and demanding you may not get the response you want, if you get a response at all.
That's a good way to end up in small claims court. Abrasive or not, if you take somebodies money or property for a service you need to respond to them regardless.
Post by: CoryTDF on July 26, 2013, 07:46:45 AM
I had a EXTREMLEY bad experience with a Taxi in Dayton a few years back. I wrote a post on here just as a warning for others. It got flamed on and locked. My pictures back up what I claimed and the Taxi got word of what I said he then joined the site to defend himself and have his friends try and do the same. Pictures pretty much shut them all up.
What I'm getting at is that sometimes you can tell a person that the stove is hot and sometimes they just have to touch it. They will argue with you till they are blue in the face and once they do and they get burnt their face will turn red.
You had a bad experience and that sucks. It happend to be with a site sponsor that lots of members like. That sucks more. I see what your intent was and completely understand why you started this thread. I have had some good interactions over PM with her in the past but I do know that if ANYBODY and I mean ANYBODY I.E. contractor, car washer, lawn guy, paper boy, anybody doing a service for me in which I was paying better make an honest attempt at contacting me. If I'm paying you than i expect to be kept in the loop at all times. If something has come up i expect a phone call, email, text something to put me at ease. I'm a human I understand things come up. However, you cant know, unless you know, you know? Hope this gets worked out.
Post by: newbie76 on July 26, 2013, 07:49:14 AM
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Post by: washingtonmuley on July 26, 2013, 09:30:26 AM
Michelle is very up front with the time frame expected to get a mount finished. She told me up to 18 months for a bear skull but I felt for the quality of work she puts out it was worth the wait time. I personally will continue to use her and take anything I choose to mount to her because of the quality. I also had no problem getting ahold of her wether it be texting or calling I received a prompt response. She will get back to you as soon as she has time I'm sure.18 months for a bear skull? That is a definitely a sign that someone is behind and taking in more work than they can complete in a timely manner. The taxidermist that I use shoots for 9 months and pretty much guarantees 12 month turn around on all work and he is extremely busy and does awesome work.
Post by: jackelope on July 26, 2013, 09:34:48 AM
I think the biggest issue is lack of communication. More so then the time frame...
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I agree.
Post by: boneaddict on July 26, 2013, 09:45:54 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 26, 2013, 09:56:06 AM
Post by: casey58 on July 26, 2013, 10:55:47 AM
Post by: 92xj on July 29, 2013, 06:48:06 AM
Post by: turkeyfeather on July 29, 2013, 07:25:13 AM
Post by: shrek on July 29, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
This is a prime example of what the internet does for you ...when you are on a site like this and it is all hunters and taxidermists and who ever else is using the site and are counting on the people who advertise their business like Michelle and they are good at what they do and then they get way more than they can handle and it causes issues like this ...I know she does awesome work ...and most of us have watched them blossom into some fine taxidermists and getting better everyday , I hope you have your facts straight before making such negative comments ...It takes a lot of time to get animals out the door especially when your good and your buried in animals to get done ... :twocents:
I totally disagree. This day and age of social media, message boards etc will help keep people honest. If they're paying for a service they're entitled to others experiences , thus keeping customer satisfaction job #1. If ya don't want people talking smack, keep em happy, ie, return phone calls, stay within time limits, etc.
Post by: Crunchy on July 29, 2013, 09:42:54 PM
Post by: huntnnw on July 29, 2013, 11:32:16 PM
Id be all over posting on here if I had stuff at my taxi for 3 years and they wouldnt call me back or email me.Id be pounding on the door!
Post by: machine on July 30, 2013, 12:33:39 AM
Any update to this?Nothing yet but from what I've read she is still on vacation.
Post by: RoyBoy on July 30, 2013, 12:50:52 AM
I have been doing business with michele for almost 3 years. I knew it would take awhile to get my stuff back when I took it to her. Yet the quality of her work has been very high. I am at 27 months on my rug and 19 months on my deer skull. Sure that is a long time but I know when I pick them up they will look great. We are friends and even I have sent her pms and texts just about random stuff and not heard back from her recently. I know she is getting close on my stuff so if you are at that time frame that you have stated. I would think it would be done pretty soon.
19 months on a deer skull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: what the heck! my family has used the Rainier taxidermy for over 30 years and i have never had to even wait more than a couple months if that. any thing over 4 or 6 months even sounds insaine!!
Post by: Smossy on July 30, 2013, 01:17:00 AM
I have been doing business with michele for almost 3 years. I knew it would take awhile to get my stuff back when I took it to her. Yet the quality of her work has been very high. I am at 27 months on my rug and 19 months on my deer skull. Sure that is a long time but I know when I pick them up they will look great. We are friends and even I have sent her pms and texts just about random stuff and not heard back from her recently. I know she is getting close on my stuff so if you are at that time frame that you have stated. I would think it would be done pretty soon.
19 months on a deer skull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: what the heck! my family has used the Rainier taxidermy for over 30 years and i have never had to even wait more than a couple months if that. any thing over 4 or 6 months even sounds insaine!!
I was wondering about them. I drive by they're place virtually every day.
Post by: billythekidrock on July 30, 2013, 05:22:58 AM
Any update to this?Nothing yet but from what I've read she is still on vacation.
Yes, she is still on vacation.
Post by: Fowlweather25 on July 30, 2013, 11:01:21 AM
I have been doing business with michele for almost 3 years. I knew it would take awhile to get my stuff back when I took it to her. Yet the quality of her work has been very high. I am at 27 months on my rug and 19 months on my deer skull. Sure that is a long time but I know when I pick them up they will look great. We are friends and even I have sent her pms and texts just about random stuff and not heard back from her recently. I know she is getting close on my stuff so if you are at that time frame
that you have stated. I would think it would be done pretty soon.
19 months on a deer skull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: what the heck! my family has used the Rainier taxidermy for over 30 years and i have never had to even wait more than a couple months if that. any thing over 4 or 6 months even sounds insaine!!
I was wondering about them. I drive by they're place virtually every day.
Hunting partner is having problems getting last years WT back or getting ahold of them as well. Not sure what is going on.
Post by: huntnnw on July 30, 2013, 10:10:55 PM
Post by: 92xj on July 31, 2013, 07:54:00 AM
As well as make a company explode with business. I deal with a small 3 man company that started 5 years ago off of a forum. This year, they still have the same employees, they take 3 times as long to get an order filled because of so many customers, the customer service is through the roof good, so everyone waits for their product. Social Media is allowing them to live the dream, their customer service is keeping every customer happy and you never hear bad reviews. They are slammed, work well into the nights and yet, still manage to return emails and phone calls within an hour of you sending it.
Post by: h20hunter on July 31, 2013, 07:56:35 AM
Post by: fillthefreezer on July 31, 2013, 08:05:02 AM
i believe shes on vaca. id try back after the 1st :tup:reading comprehension might be lacking in this thread id say..
Post by: huntnnw on July 31, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
Post by: RoyBoy on July 31, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
I have been doing business with michele for almost 3 years. I knew it would take awhile to get my stuff back when I took it to her. Yet the quality of her work has been very high. I am at 27 months on my rug and 19 months on my deer skull. Sure that is a long time but I know when I pick them up they will look great. We are friends and even I have sent her pms and texts just about random stuff and not heard back from her recently. I know she is getting close on my stuff so if you are at that time frame
that you have stated. I would think it would be done pretty soon.
19 months on a deer skull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: what the heck! my family has used the Rainier taxidermy for over 30 years and i have never had to even wait more than a couple months if that. any thing over 4 or 6 months even sounds insaine!!
I was wondering about them. I drive by they're place virtually every day.
Hunting partner is having problems getting last years WT back or getting ahold of them as well. Not sure what is going on.
if he is having trouble getting ahold of them he clearly is calling the wrong number lol. :chuckle: there always there unless there on a late hunt in the dakotas. and there always home everyone and anyone is welcome to stop by and look at his work/shoot some BS. in my opinion he does the best work i have ever seen to this day. i would tell anyone i met to go there beautiful life long lasting work at a decent price and time frame. the only other reason some ones mount will take longer is if your not paying up. he takes payments whenever you got the money but if you dont pay you wont yours on top priority i would think
Post by: coachcw on August 01, 2013, 06:52:20 AM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on August 01, 2013, 08:50:08 AM
I have been doing business with michele for almost 3 years. I knew it would take awhile to get my stuff back when I took it to her. Yet the quality of her work has been very high. I am at 27 months on my rug and 19 months on my deer skull. Sure that is a long time but I know when I pick them up they will look great. We are friends and even I have sent her pms and texts just about random stuff and not heard back from her recently. I know she is getting close on my stuff so if you are at that time framemy partner has been dealing with him for years, im sure he has the correct number! he has been paid. Now all of the sudden things seemed to have changed. Ive seen a ton of his mounts, and while the quality seems good, i wouldnt call him the best.
that you have stated. I would think it would be done pretty soon.
19 months on a deer skull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yike: :yike: :yike: :yike: what the heck! my family has used the Rainier taxidermy for over 30 years and i have never had to even wait more than a couple months if that. any thing over 4 or 6 months even sounds insaine!!
I was wondering about them. I drive by they're place virtually every day.
Hunting partner is having problems getting last years WT back or getting ahold of them as well. Not sure what is going on.
if he is having trouble getting ahold of them he clearly is calling the wrong number lol. :chuckle: there always there unless there on a late hunt in the dakotas. and there always home everyone and anyone is welcome to stop by and look at his work/shoot some BS. in my opinion he does the best work i have ever seen to this day. i would tell anyone i met to go there beautiful life long lasting work at a decent price and time frame. the only other reason some ones mount will take longer is if your not paying up. he takes payments whenever you got the money but if you dont pay you wont yours on top priority i would think
Post by: boneaddict on August 01, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 01, 2013, 11:49:14 PM
Today is the first day since July 1st that I have "read" or "answered" any PM's sent to me on this site. For the last couple months I have not been receiving E-mail notifications from HuntWA when I do get a PM (not sure why). Also I have not answered my phone. No one was intentionally being ignored out of malice.
After waiting nearly 3 years on a deer euro and bear rug I'm at the end of my patience.She took the buck hide in trade and has been paid $750. At this point I just want my property back.Voice mails have failed a response and so have pm s on this site,so here it is out in the open were it can't be ignored.Hopefully Michele will get back to me so I can pick these up this weekend finished or not.
As you can see Machine did send me 2 PM's (Only ones I could find in my PM box, I am not good at emptying my inbox). His first PM was sent to me on the 2nd, and his second sent to me on the 9th.
I also received at least 1 Voice message from Machine but it was after the 1st. I believe there was a second message left but I couldn't make it out due to static but what I could here sounded like it might have been another message from him.
As for the phone call he said he made, and I told him I was tired from deer hunting and couldn't talk, I honestly do not remember that conversation. Not saying he didn't call. Just saying I don't remember. I must have been really out of it.
PM #1:
Bear rug
« Sent to: Michelle_Nelson on: July 02, 2013, 12:29:05 AM
Hey Michelle,It's been a long time since we talked last.You have a deer skull and bear rug from 2010 I've been waiting on.Im done waiting and starting to think these will never be finished.Im going to be in your area this weekend and would like to pick these up finished or not.
Name
(Phone#)
PM #2:
« Sent to: Michelle_Nelson on: July 09, 2013, 03:10:02 PM »
Not sure why you are ignoring your paying customers?At this point as stated in my previous pm I just want my property back.You have a blacktail skull and bear hide of mine from almost 3 years ago.I have tried everything to get in touch with you.This will be my last attempt of trying to reach you directly.
Post by: Fowlweather25 on August 01, 2013, 11:56:23 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 02, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
I've never said or intentionally said PMing me on this site is the "best" way to get a hold of me, but it is a good way. It is one way of many to get a hold of me. I have an E-mail, a Phone, and this site. Sometimes people send me messages on facebook but that's isn't the best way to get a hold of me.
Post by: Fowlweather25 on August 02, 2013, 12:12:50 AM
If i left my clients on hold for a month i would be out of business plain and simple.
To each their own, i was rootin for ya fyi. Just deems like a long turn around on a skull.
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 02, 2013, 12:33:10 AM
I did work on customer projects here and there but I had some work to do around and to the house that needed to get done before it starts raining. Now that I have gotten all my honey do repairs and projects about 98% done I will be back at it full tilt working on clients projects come Monday. I just have a few more things to wrap up.
Post by: RoyBoy on August 02, 2013, 12:55:41 AM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 02, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
How about going back through some of my older posts and reading up on everything that was involved around the Tannery change back in 2010. Before you make your comments. I have posted them about 4 or 5 times. I'm not going to do it again. If you don't understand something a PM or Phone call for an explanation would be nice. It's better than having misunderstandings and untruths floating around.
Post by: JoeE on August 02, 2013, 02:55:12 AM
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Post by: newbie76 on August 02, 2013, 06:28:53 AM
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Post by: JoeE on August 02, 2013, 06:56:09 AM
Post by: magnanimous_j on August 02, 2013, 07:08:51 AM
I think Machine was 10x as patient as I would have been.
Post by: JBar on August 02, 2013, 07:34:08 AM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 02, 2013, 07:52:10 AM
Post by: HUNT-HARD on August 02, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
I think there are some things that need addressed that don't add up here. First off the statement you haven't logged on in a month isn't exactly true. I watched this thread from the beginning and your profile showed you were active on the site the day after this thread started. I am all for vacations but when you are backlogged that bad and are holding on to peoples hard earned money a month long vacation should wait till your caught up. The I'm not getting PM 's excuse seems to have been going on quite some time now and why on earth would you not answer phones for a couple months. And I cannot be sure but am almost positive you have stated before that this site was the best way to get a hold of you. I had hoped that this was an isolated issue last time but it seems to be a recurring problem which is to bad. Cause I would have loved to have someone who was considered really good when I get my first bear, but I will take it elsewhere and would probably not recommend your shop to anyone. I think you need to hire some help to run the business side of things. Good luck with you business.
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Post by: huntnnw on August 02, 2013, 09:06:31 AM
Post by: Band on August 02, 2013, 01:34:20 PM
I'm guessing taxidermists go into the business because they have a love for the work rather than because they think it is the best money-making business available but if they could employ this kind of a business model and then stick to their word I believe they could have a very successful business model with a lot of satisfied, repeat customers who don't stay awake at night wondering whether their trophy of a lifetime is safe and will ever be complete. :twocents:
Post by: WAbowhntr on August 02, 2013, 01:38:51 PM
I'm not going to direct this towards any specific taxidermist but this topic has me wondering how taxidermy customers would feel about being able to access a web page or receiving a monthly newsletter update spammed out to all of their taxidermists current customers that provides a brief statement about how things are going around the shop and a list of customers in order of when they should expect their animal to be finished, along with an estimated completion date for the top few animals on the list.
I'm guessing taxidermists go into the business because they have a love for the work rather than because they think it is the best money-making business available but if they could employ this kind of a business model and then stick to their word I believe they could have a very successful business model with a lot of satisfied, repeat customers who don't stay awake at night wondering whether their trophy of a lifetime is safe and will ever be complete. :twocents:
:tup:
Post by: Rob on August 02, 2013, 01:49:05 PM
Tannery time is excessive. Taxi's cannot control that unless they do the work in house and most are not set up to do this. When I had my African work in 2007, it took over 10 months to do the tanning, and just 3 more months to do the taxidermy on 9 animals. This was in Texas.
Michelle has always been "stand up" in her dealings with me and my buddies.
Post by: RoyBoy on August 02, 2013, 05:56:17 PM
Plain and simple ..Piss. Poor!:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Post by: fastdam on August 02, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
Post by: dfresh96 on August 02, 2013, 11:31:59 PM
Taxidermy seems to have many variables & a lot of outsourcing which means not high profit for high quality & to many hobbyist trying to be pros...
I would make sure they have a shop you can stop by & visit and BS with them, gotta get boring talking to dead animals all day...
At least her friends & the site admins get her top attention & service!!!
Post by: billythekidrock on August 03, 2013, 05:51:23 AM
"Communication rules the nation" a simple vacation message on your greeting may have prevented this....
Taxidermy seems to have many variables & a lot of outsourcing which means not high profit for high quality & to many hobbyist trying to be pros...
I would make sure they have a shop you can stop by & visit and BS with them, gotta get boring talking to dead animals all day...
At least her friends & the site admins get her top attention & service!!!
I know for a fact that your last statement is not true.
Any work she has done for me (and others I know) has been in the order it was received.
Post by: Rob on August 03, 2013, 07:36:55 AM
At least her friends & the site admins get her top attention & service!!!
well, I met her once. When I dropped off my hide, and I got good attention and service.
I guess the threshold for "friend" is low...
Pretty sweeping statement there.
Post by: elkaholic123 on August 03, 2013, 07:54:58 AM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 03, 2013, 03:17:31 PM
I think there are some things that need addressed that don't add up here. First off the statement you haven't logged on in a month isn't exactly true. I watched this thread from the beginning and your profile showed you were active on the site the day after this thread started.
Yeah after I got about a dozen Text Messages and a couple phone calls from friends letting me know about this thread. I tried to access the site from my phone. In an area with not the greatest service. I read through just about the entire first page and lost signal.
I am all for vacations but when you are backlogged that bad and are holding on to peoples hard earned money a month long vacation should wait till your caught up.
I am not going to post every detail of my Vacation/Staycation, because quite frankly it's nobodies business but my own. Hunting Washington is not my personal journal. If people don't like that. . . .sorry. There were repairs and maintenance around here that needed to be done! I couldn't work on customer projects during that time. The work had to be done before hunting season and before it started raining.
The I'm not getting PM 's excuse seems to have been going on quite some time now and why on earth would you not answer phones for a couple months.
Where in this thread did I say I wasn't getting PM's? Where in this thread did I say I didn't answer the phone for a "couple months"?
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 03, 2013, 03:20:06 PM
I don’t mean to gang up on you, but that’s no way to run a business. You can’t just take someone’s animal and nearly a grand and then disappear off the face of the earth, without so much as a quick call to your in-process customers to at least let them know.
I think Machine was 10x as patient as I would have been.
I didn't just disappear.
I don't think you realize how many customers have stuff "in-process". from the moment someone drops off an animal it is "in-process". Do you know how many and how long it would take to make that many phone calls?
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 03, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
If I go on vacation from my job I leave a message on my voice mail that I will be unavailable from this date to that date. :dunno: :twocents:
Do you own your own business or do you work for someone else?
When I go on vacation that usually means I am not going to be home or around the Shop for extended periods of time.
I will NOT leave an extended greeting letting people know that I am not going to be available between specific dates. That is just IMO giving shaddy people that call me the green light to break into my House/Shop and when the best time to do that would be. No sir, not going to happen.
Now if you work for another company and go on vacation I can understand doing that because there are probably going to be other employees working while your gone.
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 03, 2013, 03:31:58 PM
At least her friends & the site admins get her top attention & service!!!
Ummm.......OK. Statement just told me you just felt like you needed to poke me with a stick just to have something to say. Since your statement has no base or fact to it. Might want to read through page 1-4 at some of my "friends and admins" posts. Some of them have posted how long they have been waiting.
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 03, 2013, 03:38:04 PM
Just look at her Facebook page and see what she's been doing with her (spare time) :dunno:
Please do. . . .and do note the time that I am on posting. Majority of posts are after 9-10pm and as late as 3am. When I am canning the excess produce from my garden. While I am waiting for the canner to get done or waiting for pressure to build up. Since that is the only "spare time" I have to do it.
Post by: JBar on August 03, 2013, 03:49:15 PM
If I go on vacation from my job I leave a message on my voice mail that I will be unavailable from this date to that date. :dunno: :twocents:
Do you own your own business or do you work for someone else?
When I go on vacation that usually means I am not going to be home or around the Shop for extended periods of time.
I will NOT leave an extended greeting letting people know that I am not going to be available between specific dates. That is just IMO giving shaddy people that call me the green light to break into my House/Shop and when the best time to do that would be. No sir, not going to happen.
Now if you work for another company and go on vacation I can understand doing that because there are probably going to be other employees working while your gone.
Yet members on here freely post you're on vacation? I understand your reasoning but you also stated you were home doing overdue projects. I'm not digging at you but there has to be a better way for you and your customers to avoid problems in the future.
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 03, 2013, 03:53:34 PM
If I go on vacation from my job I leave a message on my voice mail that I will be unavailable from this date to that date. :dunno: :twocents:
Do you own your own business or do you work for someone else?
When I go on vacation that usually means I am not going to be home or around the Shop for extended periods of time.
I will NOT leave an extended greeting letting people know that I am not going to be available between specific dates. That is just IMO giving shaddy people that call me the green light to break into my House/Shop and when the best time to do that would be. No sir, not going to happen.
Now if you work for another company and go on vacation I can understand doing that because there are probably going to be other employees working while your gone.
Yet members on here freely post you're on vacation? I understand your reasoning but you also stated you were home doing overdue projects. I'm not digging at you but there has to be a better way for you and your customers to avoid problems in the future.
I can't control what people post on here. BTKR is a friend of mine. I had told him I was on vacation. Fillthefreezer is a customer of mine and he sent me a text about this thread. I replied back with I was on vacation. Since I was at home. I didn't mind them posting it.
If you have ideas I am open to them.
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 03, 2013, 05:18:33 PM
Right about here. But hey it's you and your business being called into question not mine. Just some advice though and I am truly saying this to help not be an ***. When you and your business get blasted on a social media site, it's best to address the complaints and apologize not come on and make a bunch of excuses.
Today is the first day since July 1st that I have "read" or "answered" any PM's sent to me on this site. For the last couple months I have not been receiving E-mail notifications from HuntWA when I do get a PM (not sure why). Also I have not answered my phone. No one was intentionally being ignored out of malice.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on August 03, 2013, 05:25:28 PM
It's better to offer an explanation or mea culpa, and then fade away from the topic. Becoming involved in a reactionary debate where you are almost always on your heels does no good.
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 03, 2013, 05:31:14 PM
Right about here. But hey it's you and your business being called into question not mine. Just some advice though and I am truly saying this to help not be an ***. When you and your business get blasted on a social media site, it's best to address the complaints and apologize not come on and make a bunch of excuses.
Today is the first day since July 1st that I have "read" or "answered" any PM's sent to me on this site. For the last couple months I have not been receiving E-mail notifications from HuntWA when I do get a PM (not sure why). Also I have not answered my phone. No one was intentionally being ignored out of malice.
How am I making excuses? I came on and simply stated the facts and let people know what was going on.
When people are making comments that "I would rather hunt than work" or that "I cater to friends and admins". When those are untrue statements I am not going to apologize for something that isn't true.
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
Look you obviously aren't getting it. And I really don't want to pile on. Good Luck to you. :tup:Right about here. But hey it's you and your business being called into question not mine. Just some advice though and I am truly saying this to help not be an ***. When you and your business get blasted on a social media site, it's best to address the complaints and apologize not come on and make a bunch of excuses.
Today is the first day since July 1st that I have "read" or "answered" any PM's sent to me on this site. For the last couple months I have not been receiving E-mail notifications from HuntWA when I do get a PM (not sure why). Also I have not answered my phone. No one was intentionally being ignored out of malice.
How am I making excuses? I came on and simply stated the facts and let people know what was going on.
When people are making comments that "I would rather hunt than work" or that "I cater to friends and admins". When those are untrue statements I am not going to apologize for something that isn't true.
Post by: JODakota on August 03, 2013, 05:37:47 PM
Post by: JODakota on August 03, 2013, 05:39:56 PM
Look you obviously aren't getting it. And I really don't want to pile on. Good Luck to you. :tup:Right about here. But hey it's you and your business being called into question not mine. Just some advice though and I am truly saying this to help not be an ***. When you and your business get blasted on a social media site, it's best to address the complaints and apologize not come on and make a bunch of excuses.
Today is the first day since July 1st that I have "read" or "answered" any PM's sent to me on this site. For the last couple months I have not been receiving E-mail notifications from HuntWA when I do get a PM (not sure why). Also I have not answered my phone. No one was intentionally being ignored out of malice.
How am I making excuses? I came on and simply stated the facts and let people know what was going on.
When people are making comments that "I would rather hunt than work" or that "I cater to friends and admins". When those are untrue statements I am not going to apologize for something that isn't true.
She clearly isn't. Turkeyfeather is offering sound advice. Swallow your pride. I realize the customer isn't always right, but in a business the customer is always right. Get it?
Post by: gasman on August 03, 2013, 05:40:12 PM
Its a no win conversation now, sorry.
Post by: Skillet on August 03, 2013, 05:48:20 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 03, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Has Michelle had a chance to address the OP's issue? Maybe a major cleanup instead of locking it may be more appropriate.
Obviously the OP has a problem.
But, there are people who have dog piled into this topic who have not been affected and are turning it into a witch hunt rather than simply letting any affected members look for a response.
I am locking it for now and will discuss with mods.
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2013, 09:41:20 AM
There is a fine line between cleaning up, often viewed as covering up, and also preventing dog piling etc. We try to allow as much positive critisim or honest evaluation as possible, especially on our sponsors, and in this case friend and fellow moderator, without allowing trash talking and the tearing of a business down from a bunch of trolls or butt cheeses. You'll note we often have different business talks on here, some thriving by word of mouth and others dieing by it. Just the statement alone, saying friends and admins obviously get good service...... ought to clue some of you in what it would be like if we "cleaned" this up anymore. Sometimes dealing with the mob mentality on here and the 10,000 opinions is like juggling 4 chainsaws.