Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 08:50:04 AM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on August 09, 2013, 08:53:08 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 08:53:43 AM
Post by: seth30 on August 09, 2013, 08:56:27 AM
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 08:57:34 AM
Post by: runamuk on August 09, 2013, 08:58:38 AM
How do get that's legal. No electronics means NO electronics pretty cut and dry.just use a go pro type device attached to your head if you want to video your shot :dunno:
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 08:59:01 AM
it doesnt state ELECTRONICS..... its states electrical....Kinda splitting hairs here. No, it's not legal.
Post by: bigtex on August 09, 2013, 08:59:22 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on August 09, 2013, 08:59:48 AM
Post by: seth30 on August 09, 2013, 09:00:43 AM
Also, it is illegal to put your shaft through a whisker biscuit that is less than 16 years old.:yike: :yike: :yike:
Post by: grundy53 on August 09, 2013, 09:02:21 AM
sent from my typewriter
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 09:04:48 AM
Also, it is illegal to put your shaft through a whisker biscuit that is less than 16 years old.:yike:
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 09:05:34 AM
Post by: lokidog on August 09, 2013, 09:11:22 AM
Post by: h20hunter on August 09, 2013, 09:11:45 AM
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 09:12:10 AM
it doesnt state ELECTRONICS..... its states electrical....
You really being serious?
If something is powered by the flow of electrons, it's "electrical".
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 09:16:28 AM
Doublelung is that the best joke you have for a whisker bisquit?? paid 20 dollars for it and works just as good as the 150 drop away....sorry my bow isnt up to your standards....
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 09:19:24 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2013, 09:20:49 AM
How do get that's legal. No electronics means NO electronics pretty cut and dry.just use a go pro type device attached to your head if you want to video your shot :dunno:
:yeah:
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 09, 2013, 09:24:25 AM
it doesnt state ELECTRONICS..... its states electrical....
Well, you can either ask a game enforcement officer and find out that it is, in fact, illegal, or just go out and try your luck. :tup: See you in two more seasons!
Post by: Bronson on August 09, 2013, 09:26:31 AM
Kinda playing the semantics game really with electronics and electrical.
If they meant anything electrical that would aid in the taking of game animals, thats what they would have put in the regs.
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
it doesnt state ELECTRONICS..... its states electrical....
Well, you can either ask a game enforcement officer and find out that it is, in fact, illegal, or just go out and try your luck. :tup: See you in two more seasons!
If you go for it and are succesful, please post a story and photos on here. A kill shot video would be even better.
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 09:29:45 AM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 09:30:04 AM
Great idea. :chuckle:it doesnt state ELECTRONICS..... its states electrical....
Well, you can either ask a game enforcement officer and find out that it is, in fact, illegal, or just go out and try your luck. :tup: See you in two more seasons!
If you go for it and are succesful, please post a story and photos on here. A kill shot video would be even better.
Post by: Curly on August 09, 2013, 09:31:19 AM
electrical equipment or electric device = _________________
:dunno:
Post by: Curly on August 09, 2013, 09:33:46 AM
Post by: norsepeak on August 09, 2013, 09:33:56 AM
Post by: rtspring on August 09, 2013, 09:34:15 AM
Post by: acnewman55 on August 09, 2013, 09:41:08 AM
Doublelung is that the best joke you have for a whisker bisquit?? paid 20 dollars for it and works just as good as the 150 drop away....sorry my bow isnt up to your standards....
i don't think he was insulting your bow. :dunno:
Post by: Buckmark on August 09, 2013, 09:41:13 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.0.html)
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 09, 2013, 09:45:54 AM
Doublelung is that the best joke you have for a whisker bisquit?? paid 20 dollars for it and works just as good as the 150 drop away....sorry my bow isnt up to your standards....
i don't think he was insulting your bow. :dunno:
:yeah:
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 09:45:59 AM
Whats the difference between a flashlight that runs on batteries and a camera that runs on batteries?
Kinda playing the semantics game really with electronics and electrical.
If they meant anything electrical that would aid in the taking of game animals, thats what they would have put in the regs.
:yeah: Just like Lighted Nocks don't aid in the taking of game, just the recovery, and they're illegal... oh wait :chuckle:
I think that the WDFW is playing catch-up with modern technology and will be on their heels for a while.
What if they allow the phone to be mounted, but then a "rangefinder" app comes out? What about a superimposed image of the animal's vitals? What about the rangefinder/superimposed image in conjunction with a "spot" that you hold your one pin on to make the kill?
And, most importantly - what if a field officer flat disagrees with what some pencil pusher in the Olympia office thinks? It's officer's discretion in the field... your season would be over and maybe - MAYBE - you get your bow and phone back a year later.
Is it that hard to put a go-pro on your head? :dunno:
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 09:48:55 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
If ya do it and post it make sure you have a note... :chuckle:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.0.html)
You better have someone inspect it first and make sure there's no laser beams attached to it, then get the note.
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 09:54:41 AM
WDFW said its the officers word... they dont see a problem with it, im getting an email to confirm... just like i got an email about the new toxic broad heads cause those had some grey areas in Regs....
Post by: vandeman17 on August 09, 2013, 09:57:09 AM
why spend money on a go pro, when i can use my phone, apprently i dont have money to but something differnt then a whisker bisquit and get ripped for that....
WDFW said its the officers word... they dont see a problem with it, im getting an email to confirm... just like i got an email about the new toxic broad heads cause those had some grey areas in Regs....
I see where you are coming from and you are doing the right thing on trying to clarify and I would make sure to get it in writing. If you can't afford a go pro then maybe you could do something where you get your phone mounted to your back pack strap or something and then you have nothing to worry about? :dunno: If it were me I just wouldn't chance it. Better safe then sorry.
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 10:00:05 AM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 10:00:52 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 10:03:19 AM
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 10:03:52 AM
Already a range finder app out skillet.
:chuckle: I'm a little behind myself, then!
Since that is the case, I don't see any way that this would be considered legal. Great toy and you made a clean looking mount, but... no.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 09, 2013, 10:04:13 AM
Easier to head-off any potential problems up front instead of having to do damage control after the fact.
Also for what its worth, don't think the whisker bisquit comment has anything to do with your bow and how it is set up...hence the reference to putting a "shaft" into anything less than 16 years old.....
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 10:07:40 AM
Also, it is illegal to put your shaft through a whisker biscuit that is less than 16 years old.WOW, I'm a little slow today. Just got this one. :chuckle:
Post by: h20hunter on August 09, 2013, 10:08:39 AM
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 10:11:54 AM
Or talk to the local enforcement officer where you will be hunting, have the email response in hand when you do and see what he/she says along with your bow/camera set-up to show exactly what you want to do.
Easier to head-off any potential problems up front instead of having to do damage control after the fact.
Also for what its worth, don't think the whisker bisquit comment has anything to do with your bow and how it is set up...hence the reference to putting a "shaft" into anything less than 16 years old.....
:yeah: on all accounts.
I'll bet you don't get any field officer to OK that for you, though. They might take pity on you if you have an email from the Oly office saying it is ok, but they might not, and all of the sudden you're in violation. It is CLEARLY an electrical device, and per the regs (intent of law or not) - illegal.
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 10:12:27 AM
Post by: Buckmark on August 09, 2013, 10:13:56 AM
i dont have money to but something differnt then a whisker bisquit and get ripped for that....You are cracking me up, seriously he was not ripping you about your whisker biscut...he was making a reference kinda of like making sure you wrap your fishing pole before trying for bearded clams, and the clams need to be legal..
Do ya need a drawing for reference?? :dunno:
*
Oh and dont put the camera on your bow....
Post by: JLS on August 09, 2013, 10:16:33 AM
kinda of like making sure you wrap your fishing pole before trying for bearded clams, and the clams need to be legal..
Do ya need a drawing for reference?? :
I'm kind of confused on this. Can you please draw it out for me :)
Post by: h20hunter on August 09, 2013, 10:18:27 AM
GoPro Test Run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcQn0rPCTco#)
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 10:20:33 AM
Post by: bknilvr00 on August 09, 2013, 10:22:19 AM
Sent from my space modulator.
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 10:22:30 AM
I would like to see a drawing myself.
kinda of like making sure you wrap your fishing pole before trying for bearded clams, and the clams need to be legal..
Do ya need a drawing for reference?? :
I'm kind of confused on this. Can you please draw it out for me :)
I'm super good at MS Paint and stuff, and have seen this kind of thing on the internet. I'll send you guys a PM.
Post by: h20hunter on August 09, 2013, 10:39:41 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on August 09, 2013, 10:47:05 AM
I am hanging my head in shame in the gutter.
Post by: Buckmark on August 09, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 10:48:26 AM
If wdfw says it's legal I'll be one pissed off dude. What's the point of even having regs it seems so simple to me no electronics.
i even spoke with a field officer to he is pretty laid back and said he sees no harm in this.... he stated that the regs need to be updated or revised because of technology these days... theres no advantage to me by useing it... he also cracked a joke saying just tell them you have it mounted there so you dont loose your cell phone while out hunting... that way you dont miss your wifes calls youl lbe able to see when she calls you cause it will be in your sights at all times.... i think ill use that excuse
Post by: Curly on August 09, 2013, 10:50:33 AM
Like someone else said, it is black and white in the regs. It isn't even a shade of gray........plain and simple, it is illegal to have electrical equipment mounted to your bow. :twocents:
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 10:51:16 AM
If wdfw says it's legal I'll be one pissed off dude. What's the point of even having regs it seems so simple to me no electronics.i even spoke with a field officer to he is pretty laid back and said he sees no harm in this.... he stated that the regs need to be updated or revised because of technology these days... theres no advantage to me by useing it... he also cracked a joke saying just tell them you have it mounted there so you dont loose your cell phone while out hunting... that way you dont miss your wifes calls youl lbe able to see when she calls you cause it will be in your sights at all times.... i think ill use that excuse....
i even spoke with a field officer to he is pretty laid back and said he sees no harm in this.... he stated that the regs need to be updated or revised because of technology these days... theres no advantage to me by useing it... he also cracked a joke saying just tell them you have it mounted there so you dont loose your cell phone while out hunting... that way you dont miss your wifes calls youl lbe able to see when she calls you cause it will be in your sights at all times.... i think ill use that excuse
DoubleLung.. No worries man i have thick skin... i just got your joke by the way to its pretty funny...
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 10:54:43 AM
If wdfw says it's legal I'll be one pissed off dude. What's the point of even having regs it seems so simple to me no electronics.He still didn't say it was legal. There's a big difference to me in them saying " I see no harm in it", and saying " go ahead it's perfectly legal".
i even spoke with a field officer to he is pretty laid back and said he sees no harm in this.... he stated that the regs need to be updated or revised because of technology these days... theres no advantage to me by useing it... he also cracked a joke saying just tell them you have it mounted there so you dont loose your cell phone while out hunting... that way you dont miss your wifes calls youl lbe able to see when she calls you cause it will be in your sights at all times.... i think ill use that excuse
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 10:55:37 AM
I don't have a dog in the fight, but still interesting. :dunno:
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 10:58:52 AM
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 11:02:40 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2013, 11:03:51 AM
i couldnt agree more with what yall are saying... but what if i Taped my range finder to my Limb vice keeping it in my pocket??? advantages? i wouldnt use a range finder app.. i already have one... but say you pull your range finder out and rest it on your bow to range something... technically you mounted it to your bow... see where im coming from with interpretation....
Read this thread and the end result.
I can tell you, for sure, that this guy went through a whole lot of trouble including visits with game wardens because of it.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.25.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.25.html)
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 11:04:17 AM
i couldnt agree more with what yall are saying... but what if i Taped my range finder to my Limb vice keeping it in my pocket??? advantages? i wouldnt use a range finder app.. i already have one... but say you pull your range finder out and rest it on your bow to range something... technically you mounted it to your bow... see where im coming from with interpretation....I disagree. Something resting on your bow is not mounted. Two totally different definitions.
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2013, 11:07:04 AM
im saying because of how its worded some people like myself interprut things differently... i work in Naval Aviation you wanna talk about interpruting things!!!!! if its clearly stated ELECTRONICS vice ELECTRICAL i wouldnt have started this thread.... Cause i know the difference... will i use it for hunting probably not... cause you never know where Gamies are... will i use it for 3D shoots back yard shooting why not... ive been lucky to hunt here in WA for the Last 5 years .. im from NY orignally, and Regs in NY you can wipe your ass with... they are written with Chalk...
Why would it matter if it were legal if all you're going to do with it is shoot 3d's and backyard shooting?
i couldnt agree more with what yall are saying... but what if i Taped my range finder to my Limb vice keeping it in my pocket??? advantages? i wouldnt use a range finder app.. i already have one... but say you pull your range finder out and rest it on your bow to range something... technically you mounted it to your bow... see where im coming from with interpretation....I disagree. Something resting on your bow is not mounted. Two totally different definitions.
Agreed. It is not mounted to your bow. It is touching it. Resting against it.
Post by: ICEMAN on August 09, 2013, 11:09:36 AM
Mattysuto, you need to slow down and use a bit more logic.
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 11:10:44 AM
im saying because of how its worded some people like myself interprut things differently... i work in Naval Aviation you wanna talk about interpruting things!!!!! if its clearly stated ELECTRONICS vice ELECTRICAL i wouldnt have started this thread.... Cause i know the difference... will i use it for hunting probably not... cause you never know where Gamies are... will i use it for 3D shoots back yard shooting why not... ive been lucky to hunt here in WA for the Last 5 years .. im from NY orignally, and Regs in NY you can wipe your ass with... they are written with Chalk...
Don't know what the chalk reference is, but I've read enough here to know that I'm definitely not in your camp when it comes to skirting the laws, Matty. I just don't get the mentality of not doing something illegal based on the odds of getting caught by the gamie.
Best of luck to you, man. Hope you don't find yourself with a little more attention than you planned on from the WDFW Enforcement division. This ain't NY.
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 11:11:26 AM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 11:14:29 AM
touching/ mounted its all up for interpretation.. i cant spell.... its still ON YOUR BOW... maybe not permanantly but for the moment you mounted on your bow cause its touching it....If you say so man. You have a pretty broad interpretation of everything.
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2013, 11:15:06 AM
:dunno:
Post by: Holg3107 on August 09, 2013, 11:16:06 AM
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touching/ mounted its all up for interpretation..
Really??? You are really fishing here. There is no interpretation needed there and if that's the way you are looking at things just mount a pistol to your balance and use that, I'm sure you can find a way to justify it. :bash: Matty, good luck to you. You clearly have a very "different" way of looking at the game laws.
Post by: LadyB on August 09, 2013, 11:22:42 AM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 11:24:55 AM
Makes me wonder what your CO would think of your "interpretations".It all depends on how you interpret the interpretation.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 09, 2013, 11:25:24 AM
touching/ mounted its all up for interpretation.. i cant spell.... its still ON YOUR BOW... maybe not permanantly but for the moment you mounted on your bow cause its touching it....
Just tossing this out here, looked at Webster's on-line to see if there was a definite difference or if they could really be considered the same, this is what I found:
Touch: to cause to be briefly in contact or conjunction with something
Mount:: to attach to a support
Post by: stevemiller on August 09, 2013, 11:25:44 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on August 09, 2013, 11:26:30 AM
Post by: Buckmark on August 09, 2013, 11:27:56 AM
So to have an Electronic device you must have Electricity of some sort, therefore it is an Electrical device first that uses Electronics to manipulate the Electricity.....
Your camera is a complicated Electronic device that has a battery or batteries in it that are Electrical devices, hence electrical devices would be mounted on your bow.....
Post by: Curly on August 09, 2013, 11:28:12 AM
A piece of electronics (cell phone, range finder, etc.), while it is electronics..........it is also an electrical or electric device. It is both. Therefore, the law is written just fine and written ok to encompass anything electric. :twocents:
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 09, 2013, 11:29:40 AM
im saying because of how its worded some people like myself interprut things differently... i work in Naval Aviation you wanna talk about interpruting things!!!!! if its clearly stated ELECTRONICS vice ELECTRICAL i wouldnt have started this thread.... Cause i know the difference... will i use it for hunting probably not... cause you never know where Gamies are... will i use it for 3D shoots back yard shooting why not... ive been lucky to hunt here in WA for the Last 5 years .. im from NY orignally, and Regs in NY you can wipe your ass with... they are written with Chalk...
OK, so you're really over-thinking the regs. The WDFW is writing them for people like me who are unedumacated and can't make a distinction between electrical, electric, and electronic. Mostly, it's because they prefer ambiguity in regulations. It gives the gamies more leeway to write tickets. If you're resting a rangefinder on your bow, you're unable to use it practically. If you attach it with anything, then it fits the description of illegal equipment. Get your answer from the local office and make sure it's documented. If you really want to avoid trouble, talk to your local gamie and get it straight from the horse's mouth. Either way, if someone says it's alright, post it up here and we can further chastise you for your post. :)
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 11:30:21 AM
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 11:35:29 AM
Makes me wonder what your CO would think of your "interpretations".
my Skipper is always open to interpretation, cause in everyday life interpretation happens and things get changed...
Post by: stevemiller on August 09, 2013, 11:37:30 AM
do these same rules apply to modern rifle and muzzies?,i know they do on archery :dunno: reason i ask is because some of these new scopes would be sweet. :tup:
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 11:37:43 AM
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 11:43:45 AM
I look at laws an i abide by them ... i have not done anything illegal in this state while hunting... NEVER have i broken any hunting laws in any state i have hunted in EVER!!!! i wrote this thread for a reason to see what others think and maybe just maybe this could get read by someone and somehow this could get things changed or re-evaluate things to maybe be able to use a Electrical/Electronics Device. LAWS ARE LAWS just like driving laws... but you know if you break one of those you go to court you fight it and you then dont get charged with anything... blah blah blah... i would never want to jeopordize my hunting life, i love it to much... do i think this laws here are very strict yes they are... but owell you have to obey them....im not trying to start wars with all you hunters by all means...... i respect each an everyone of you guys and your comments... im just the guys who thinks wayyyyyyy outside the box... cause even though its in black in white, theres always away around things... theres always different views on things, disagreements no matter what... i wasnt trying to break the rules but thinking outside the box and bringing it up to you all and see what you all think... hope i didnt offend anyone by all means..
Ok, I get what you're saying. But realize you're talking to a bunch of guys who for the most part are partial to the traditions and really not looking at game laws as things to find ways around. They're the laws, and we all follow them. If you're wrong, you're basically considered a "poacher", which is a half-step up from a child molester on here. :chuckle:
I think a lot the, uh, "enthusiasm" in the responses is based on the desire to have battery-operated whatever on their bows for a long time and have experienced years of frustration because of the laws as written in this state. I have a bowhunting buddy that just moved out here from Minnesota. He thinks we're stone-age idiots, for the most part when it comes to restrictions on technology on weapons and baiting of bears. But we allow it for deer/elk. I told him he's lucky he didnt' move here two years ago, cause those fancy lighted nocks would have been wasted as well. :chuckle:
Post by: biggfish on August 09, 2013, 11:52:55 AM
Post by: 724wd on August 09, 2013, 11:53:24 AM
http://www.firenock.com/main.php?page=iBowSight (http://www.firenock.com/main.php?page=iBowSight)
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 09, 2013, 11:56:37 AM
I look at laws an i abide by them ... i wrote this thread for a reason to see what others think and maybe just maybe this could get read by someone and somehow this could get things changed or re-evaluate things to maybe be able to use a Electrical/Electronics Device... im just the guys who thinks wayyyyyyy outside the box... cause even though its in black in white, theres always away around things... theres always different views on things, disagreements no matter what... i wasnt trying to break the rules but thinking outside the box and bringing it up to you all and see what you all think... hope i didnt offend anyone by all means..
I think that your initial point was taken and you received several responses, common agreement was that it would not be legal.
Where things seemed to go sideways was the splitting of hairs and seemingly grasping at straws over terms, ie., electronic vs electric...when it goes to that level of argument/justification, it just takes things in the wrong direction, and can sound like since you didn't get the answer you wanted, then what about this, how about that, etc., hoping someone will side with what you wanted to hear.
Then, to add in the argument that there are always ways to get around the law, doesn't sit well to some people. They may interrupt that statement to say it is okay to do it as long as you didn't/don't get caught.
Hoping to get something changed or updated that is a current law, is a process that few are willing to start and see through to the end, but it is possible, just look at what the anti-hunting movement has done!
Spirited debate, appropriate adult conversations and difference of views and opinions I believe, is always welcome here, that is how people learn and grow.
Have a great weekend!!
Post by: Rainier10 on August 09, 2013, 12:09:14 PM
this is why you can't mount your iphone on your bow for hunting...:yeah:
http://www.firenock.com/main.php?page=iBowSight (http://www.firenock.com/main.php?page=iBowSight)
Post by: huntnphool on August 09, 2013, 12:53:43 PM
And that's exactly what they did!
If they meant anything electrical, thats what they would have put in the regs.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 09, 2013, 01:01:27 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on August 09, 2013, 01:05:54 PM
I just had to way in... go pro camera worn on your hat is your best bet.
Post by: Bob33 on August 09, 2013, 01:08:49 PM
I applaud your conviction and don't doubt your sincerity, but anyone who has hunted for any length of time has almost certainly broken one or more laws.
Post by: Jellymon on August 09, 2013, 01:12:20 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 01:16:11 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on August 09, 2013, 01:17:39 PM
Amazingly, Matty posed the same question to his friends on facebook yesterday and it appears they came to the same conclussion as the rest of us. Don't know why it's so hard to undrrstand. :dunno:
Huh?
Post by: h20hunter on August 09, 2013, 01:18:45 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 01:21:40 PM
He posted a pic of his bow with the camera mount on facebook yesterday. His friends told him that's not legal. He made the same electrical/electronic argument with them. And that if a gamie stopped him he would tell them their regs dont clearly exclude cell phones. Yeah good luck with that. He clearly is just looking for someone/anyone to tell him it's ok.Amazingly, Matty posed the same question to his friends on facebook yesterday and it appears they came to the same conclussion as the rest of us. Don't know why it's so hard to undrrstand. :dunno:
Huh?
Post by: ICEMAN on August 09, 2013, 01:22:59 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 09, 2013, 01:24:12 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 01:28:27 PM
Post by: Doc Sauce on August 09, 2013, 01:51:48 PM
Seems like electric (electrical) has to do with ANYTHING that has electricity in it. Electronic is a device powered with electricity. So either way it is looked at, it's illegal.
Post by: bobcat on August 09, 2013, 02:01:20 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 09, 2013, 02:02:24 PM
Post by: stevemiller on August 09, 2013, 02:07:16 PM
Post by: Doc Sauce on August 09, 2013, 02:14:20 PM
Well thank you for this thread now i know why our state has to spend millions per year on stuff like signs and commercials to tell everyone that you also have to wear a seatbelt at night.... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
+1
Post by: Buckmark on August 09, 2013, 02:19:04 PM
Well thank you for this thread now i know why our state has to spend millions per year on stuff like signs and commercials to tell everyone that you also have to wear a seatbelt at night.... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:Really are you sure? as i read the WAC on seatbelts the law uses the term "Motor" vehicle and i was always taught that a motor runs on electricity and an engine runs on a combustable fuel source, Since i am not driving an electric powered vehicle i am not operating a "motor" vehicle as i interpret the law..Very ambigous i would say, i think i will ask a state patrolman to clarify why it says "motor"...
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 02:20:04 PM
Post by: stevemiller on August 09, 2013, 02:20:35 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:Well thank you for this thread now i know why our state has to spend millions per year on stuff like signs and commercials to tell everyone that you also have to wear a seatbelt at night.... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:Really are you sure? as i read the WAC on seatbelts the law uses the term "Motor" vehicle and i was always taught that a motor runs on electricity and an engine runs on a combustable fuel source, Since i am not driving an electric powered vehicle i am not operating a "motor" vehicle as i interpret the law..Very ambigous i would say, i think i will ask a state patrolman to clarigy whay it says "motor"...
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 02:25:10 PM
Nicely done :tup:Well thank you for this thread now i know why our state has to spend millions per year on stuff like signs and commercials to tell everyone that you also have to wear a seatbelt at night.... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:Really are you sure? as i read the WAC on seatbelts the law uses the term "Motor" vehicle and i was always taught that a motor runs on electricity and an engine runs on a combustable fuel source, Since i am not driving an electric powered vehicle i am not operating a "motor" vehicle as i interpret the law..Very ambigous i would say, i think i will ask a state patrolman to clarify why it says "motor"...
Post by: Skillet on August 09, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
“Morning, Son. I’m going to need to see your tag and licen… Hey – is that cell phone mounted on our bow?!? Don’t you know it’s illegal to have any electrical equipment or electric device(s) except for illuminated nocks, attached to the bow or arrow while hunting?”
“Yes sir, but this is not electrical. It is ELECTRONIC. The regs don’t specifically state that ELECTRONICS can’t be attached to the bow, so it’s open to interpretation – you follow me?”
“No, I don’t. It runs on electrical batteries, therefore is not legal to have attached to your bow.”
“About that – I was thinking that since I could hold my phone and my bow at the same time, meaning we’re all attached together and that’s legal, I’d just go ahead and cut out the middleman and attach it to the bow.”
“Touching a bow by holding it in your hand does not mean that you are attached to your bow. You’re just touching it.”
“Well, that’s open to interpretation, sir. I’m actually pretty attached to this bow. I’ve had it for a while and it is like an extension of my arm. Same with my phone – I get attached to my things. And touching may not actually MEAN mounting, but it sure leads to it – ask my girlfriend.”
“Son, I’m going to need you to put your weapon down and step away from it…”
Or something like that. I'm actually kind of looking forward to reading about this in the "Officer's Notebook" in a few months :chuckle:
Post by: Bob33 on August 09, 2013, 02:36:25 PM
Just about every week now someone comes on here with a legal question, and what happens? He gets corrected. “No, you can’t bait bears.” “No, you can’t put electronics on a bow”.
Would you just chill?
I’ve waited nearly 20 years for a quality bull permit. If I can just turn in a few poachers, I’m in the running. And just when I think I’ve got a live one, you guys go and spoil it all for me by educating the poor soul. :bash:
;)
Post by: Rainier10 on August 09, 2013, 02:43:17 PM
Post by: Buckmark on August 09, 2013, 02:43:54 PM
touching/ mounted its all up for interpretation.. i cant spell.... its still ON YOUR BOW... maybe not permanantly but for the moment you mounted on your bow cause its touching it....So along with skillets snyopses of what may be the conversation with the wdfw in field check i have to ask this.
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If your buddy is helping your retrieve/drag out your deer and you touch him with your shoulder have you then mounted him? :dunno:
And if touching is mounting then man i need to update my known partners list... :chuckle:
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 02:44:21 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 02:44:35 PM
You Hunt WA guys are really starting to tick me off.Sorry Bob :(
Just about every week now someone comes on here with a legal question, and what happens? He gets corrected. “No, you can’t bait bears.” “No, you can’t put electronics on a bow”.
Would you just chill?
I’ve waited nearly 20 years for a quality bull permit. If I can just turn in a few poachers, I’m in the running. And just when I think I’ve got a live one, you guys go and spoil it all for me by educating the poor soul. :bash:
;)
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 09, 2013, 02:48:49 PM
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 03:51:49 PM
Edited....watch the language.
-Jackelope
Post by: h20hunter on August 09, 2013, 03:52:50 PM
Post by: MattySuto on August 09, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2013, 03:57:03 PM
Does anyone even need to click "report to mod" on this?
Nope
do you want me to!!
Nope.
Nothing good will come of this from here on.
This one's done.