Post by: Mongo Hunter on August 09, 2013, 02:29:52 PM
PS. This gun is being built to be a PISTOL it has not been nor will it ever be mounted to a RIFLE lower. Just thought I should get the legal out of the way before someone tries to call the ATF on me lol
Post by: sirmissalot on August 09, 2013, 02:31:44 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 09, 2013, 02:32:56 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on August 09, 2013, 02:40:25 PM
Is there a gasblock or has the gasport even been drilled in the barrel?
There is a gas block but I should look to see if its drilled. we would like to test it, but we don't have a pistol lower and obviously trying it on a rifle lower would be illegal.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 09, 2013, 02:47:13 PM
I would check headspace on that upper before firing it. If they forgot the gastube they may have missed something more important
Post by: Fisherdave10 on August 10, 2013, 02:06:16 PM
Is the BCG of standard AR15 design?
Is there a hole for a gas tube at the front of the upper receiver?
Post by: MadHatter on August 10, 2013, 02:13:11 PM
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Post by: Mongo Hunter on August 12, 2013, 06:34:25 AM
The gas tube doesnt look like this does it? Like it just the back of the gas tube that is flat?
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It has a standard AR Bolt Carrier, and its supposed to be 223/5.56 AR Pistol. we might just track down a pistol lower and give it a test, maybe we are getting worked up for nothing I just thought it was strange there was no gas tube in the rifle.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 12, 2013, 07:11:30 AM
The gas tube doesnt look like this does it? Like it just the back of the gas tube that is flat?
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It has a standard AR Bolt Carrier, and its supposed to be 223/5.56 AR Pistol. we might just track down a pistol lower and give it a test, maybe we are getting worked up for nothing I just thought it was strange there was no gas tube in the rifle.
Wear really good eye protection.
Post by: Rob on August 12, 2013, 09:11:08 AM
Crazy. has to be an error.
I agree with checking headspace. That prevented an issue for me with my recent Grendal build.
Post by: Fisherdave10 on August 12, 2013, 07:22:49 PM
It has a standard AR Bolt Carrier, and its supposed to be 223/5.56 AR Pistol. we might just track down a pistol lower and give it a test, maybe we are getting worked up for nothing I just thought it was strange there was no gas tube in the rifle.
Yeah... if the BCG is a standard BCG and there is no gas tube, it isn't going to work... The gun will fire once, but the bolt will not unlock without gas flowing through the carrier and applying pressure to rear of the bolt (gas impingement). Does the front of the upper receiver have a hole for gas tube to pass into it? If so, it might be easier to buy an ~$8 gas tube and install it yourself.
If your lower was originally transferred as an 'other' (most stripped lowers are transferred as this, but be sure), you can remove the stock, then use it with a pistol upper. You can temporarily wrap paracord over the carbine buffer tube if you want to avoid confusion while at the range. If your lower was transferred as an 'other', it can be converted back and forth as much as you want.
http://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf (http://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf)
If you bought your lower assembled as a rifle lower, it cannot be converted back to a "pistol" unless you want to jump through a bunch of hoops and paperwork.
:rolleyes:...gun laws... :bash:
Post by: Mongo Hunter on August 13, 2013, 06:53:22 AM
It has a standard AR Bolt Carrier, and its supposed to be 223/5.56 AR Pistol. we might just track down a pistol lower and give it a test, maybe we are getting worked up for nothing I just thought it was strange there was no gas tube in the rifle.
Yeah... if the BCG is a standard BCG and there is no gas tube, it isn't going to work... The gun will fire once, but the bolt will not unlock without gas flowing through the carrier and applying pressure to rear of the bolt (gas impingement). Does the front of the upper receiver have a hole for gas tube to pass into it? If so, it might be easier to buy an ~$8 gas tube and install it yourself.
If your lower was originally transferred as an 'other' (most stripped lowers are transferred as this, but be sure), you can remove the stock, then use it with a pistol upper. You can temporarily wrap paracord over the carbine buffer tube if you want to avoid confusion while at the range. If your lower was transferred as an 'other', it can be converted back and forth as much as you want.
http://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf (http://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf)
If you bought your lower assembled as a rifle lower, it cannot be converted back to a "pistol" unless you want to jump through a bunch of hoops and paperwork.
:rolleyes:...gun laws... :bash:
I agree, what government idiot who knows nothing about guns came up with the "other", "Rifle", "Pistol" laws. anyways Ill have to try and see if at the gun show this month or next if I can find a pistol lower at a good price and see if that fixes it. or find the guy that we bought it from and see what the deal is. We bought the upper without a bolt or charging handle and just put in our own. I could have missed something there too but when we checked them out they all looked like they had standard AR BCG's. and there is a hole in the receiver for a gas tube, its just see through at the moment :chuckle:. Ill see what we can figure out and get back to yall! thanks for the help guys!