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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: washelkhunter on August 10, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
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Is our NW food supply contaminated with radioactive fallout from the Fukishima reactors meltdown. WDFW has been silent on this.
I dont think we should be consuming anything coming out of the Pacific ocean today, especially shellfish. Is hoof rot directly tied to radiation poisoning? Are deer and elk safe to consume? What about berries and mushrooms? Are we not being advised and warned about a health threat? I would'nt be feeding my kids any local NW dairy products either.
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2013/06/08/holy-fukushima-radiation-from-japan-is-already-killing-north-americans/. (http://www.pakalertpress.com/2013/06/08/holy-fukushima-radiation-from-japan-is-already-killing-north-americans/.) This message was sent using ShareThis (http://www.sharethis.com (http://www.sharethis.com))
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why today out of all days? What source is this coming from? I have pots in the water and now you have me worried.
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Sounds like someone has been spending too much time on the other side of the river!
Notice all the "Keep Portland Weird" bumper stickers down there :tinfoil: They're a special kind of crazy lib factory down there!
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Heres the link.
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2013/06/08/holy-fukushima-radiation-from-japan-is-already-killing-north-americans/ (http://www.pakalertpress.com/2013/06/08/holy-fukushima-radiation-from-japan-is-already-killing-north-americans/)
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I watched from day one as CNN and other "news" agencies cheered and hoorahed that the radiation was blowing directly at us instead of at the red commies.
If this is the first inclination of radiation coming straight at us from Japan, you need to think about your world a little more often. And yes its in the grass, air, water, etc....our milk has shown alarming levels.
I LOVE sushi and Japanese food, as soon as day one of fukushima I quit buying imported food from Japan.... After Chernobyl happened, Europeans mostly drank imported milk for years.
Ive mostly been using costco organic rice milk and drinking water from deep underground.
Is there more radiation in the sound than ever? You bet
Am I going Humpy fishing tonight? You bet....cant let everything ruin a good time
Hey atleast you dont have foreigners in your country shooting DU all over the place until you fight back with whatever you got... :dunno:
fukushima news at 2min in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEA71LeCUM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEA71LeCUM)
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjqz6IWk4p8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjqz6IWk4p8)
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhA6uh5UyAQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhA6uh5UyAQ)
but dont worry "trace amounts of radiation are nothing to worry about"
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Go find you a RIID and head on down to the local dairy and take a sample from the milk tanks.
come back with the results.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444772404577589270444059332.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444772404577589270444059332.html)
I found the part about "Remember that Denver has a lower cancer rate than the rest of the U.S., not a higher one." To be quite interesting. And we are seeing nowhere near the levels found in Denver. In fact, most of Japan is not seeing the levels found in Denver! I'm not ready to quit drinking milk, give up eating seafood, removing minerals in my drinking water through reverse osmosis, or wearing my tinfoil hat quite yet.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444772404577589270444059332.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444772404577589270444059332.html)
I found the part about "Remember that Denver has a lower cancer rate than the rest of the U.S., not a higher one." To be quite interesting. And we are seeing nowhere near the levels found in Denver. In fact, most of Japan is not seeing the levels found in Denver! I'm not ready to quit drinking milk, give up eating seafood, removing minerals in my drinking water through reverse osmosis, or wearing my tinfoil hat quite yet.
This.
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Hoof rot was happening way before Fukushima. Just sayin'. :dunno:
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Hoof rot was happening way before Fukushima. Just sayin'. :dunno:
:yeah: So what are we all supposed to do? Hide in our homes, line the windows with foil. And never go outside and do anything fun again. Why cause your afraid. :dunno: Not me, I am going to continue to enjoy life as long as I am able to live it. I am probably more likely to die driving to my hunting spot than I am from eating my deer.
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Hoof rot was happening way before Fukushima. Just sayin'. :dunno:
:yeah: So what are we all supposed to do? Hide in our homes, line the windows with foil. And never go outside and do anything fun again. Why cause your afraid. :dunno: Not me, I am going to continue to enjoy life as long as I am able to live it. I am probably more likely to die driving to my hunting spot than I am from eating my deer.
If you're depending on your deer, there's a good chance you'll starve before the radiation get you! :chuckle: :chuckle: j/k
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Hoof rot was happening way before Fukushima. Just sayin'. :dunno:
:yeah: So what are we all supposed to do? Hide in our homes, line the windows with foil. And never go outside and do anything fun again. Why cause your afraid. :dunno: Not me, I am going to continue to enjoy life as long as I am able to live it. I am probably more likely to die driving to my hunting spot than I am from eating my deer.
If you're depending on your deer, there's a good chance you'll starve before the radiation get you! :chuckle: :chuckle: j/k
Good point. :chuckle:
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So based on this article us west coast people are all going to die from cancer! We should not eat pretty much anyting, and we cant drink anything. seems like a lost cause anyway so i'm going to go drink a nice glass of PNW milk. Dumb article written by a whacko who must be rich enough to have all his food flown in from the east coast. You know, cause there is no polution over there.
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Probably get more radiation going up in the mountains to hunt than from Japan.
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they just want web clicks, nothing more. anyway to get you to click their website puts a :twocents: in their pocket
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Probably get more radiation going up in the mountains to hunt than from Japan.
or a transcontinental flight....
or changing the battery in a smoke detector....
Besides, the solution to polution is dilution...and there is a lot of water between here and Japan
just sayin....
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i'm thinking there's a lot more radiation coming from the leaks at the Hanford tanks affecting the PNW than radiation coming from Japan.
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Yup, everyone stop hunting and fishing NOW! I will keep testing and let you know when it is safe. No need to thank me, just taking one for the team :chuckle:
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Was close to Chernobyl some years back, received more glow by a factor of ten flying at altitude than spending a week in the area.
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I was talking to a guy a few years back, pre-internet, and somehow the conversation drifted to me being a hunter. He mentioned how wild game has high levels of radiation from fall out over the years. He said that because they basically eat plants from untilled soil that they accumulate more radiation then animals that eat from tilled soil. I was interested in how he knew, he was a nuclear engineer from the olden days. He compared it to still being able to find Mt. St. Helens ash in the mountains, years latter. I thought it was kind of an interesting thought.
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We should likely be more concerned about all the water coolent leaching into the ocean and working its way this direction due to currents.
http://www.whatsondalian.com/news-453-radiation-fears-grow-after-japan-admits-fukushima-nuclear-reactor-core-cracked.html (http://www.whatsondalian.com/news-453-radiation-fears-grow-after-japan-admits-fukushima-nuclear-reactor-core-cracked.html)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/world/asia/inquiry-suggests-worse-damage-at-japan-nuclear-plant.html?_r=4&partner=rss&emc=rss& (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/world/asia/inquiry-suggests-worse-damage-at-japan-nuclear-plant.html?_r=4&partner=rss&emc=rss&)
Its not :tinfoil: to be concerned.... it IS leaking radioactive water into the water table and then into the ocean. when they remove the damaged rods into the storage facility that is complete in NOV there could be a major problem... :twocents:
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Yes, it has been reported lately (last few months vs years for the linked articles) that contaminated water is leaking into the ocean.
With that said, the amount of dilution that would occur between Japan and here would likely make any impact minor, if noticeable.
I should also note, not too long ago there was a piece going around Facebook discussing this with quite a bit of hyperbole. It included an image and implied/indicated it was a map of radiation spread, when, in fact, it was simply the tsunami wave height map by NOAA.
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It is still cause for concern... I didn't find anything recent about it in a quick search, it does go to show that it is likely going to be an ongoing issue if it has been leaking for quite some time. How much will it affect us? Dunno, but i can tell you it aint gona be pretty in Japan. :twocents:
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Here's one of the recent ones.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/08/130807-fukushima-radioactive-water-leak/ (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/08/130807-fukushima-radioactive-water-leak/)
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Very informative article however i think it glosses over the potential down sides. Fortuanly most of those are in Japan. I know people who got cancer from the chernobl accident, and its history is pretty scary... NOT exactly the same, but radiation is bad stuff.
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not too worried about it myself.
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This is follow up for those of you who dismissed this issue because no MAIN stream media picked this up. IMO The Everett Herald is Main Stream.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20140110/OPINION02/140119987/Fukushima-plume-headed-to-West (http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20140110/OPINION02/140119987/Fukushima-plume-headed-to-West)
Fukushima plume headed to West
Three years ago, I wrote a commentary opposing nuclear power due to concerns about nuclear plant safety and waste disposal. Three months later, Fukushima experienced a major earthquake and tsunami that caused three of the six Fukushima Daiichi reactors to lose power and melt down, including Reactor 3 that utilizes MOX fuel containing highly-toxic plutonium. A fourth reactor’s fuel pool is in danger of collapse if hit by another major earthquake. Although Fukushima, like Chernobyl, is classified as a Category 7 nuclear disaster (on the International Nuclear Event Scale), Fukushima remains a far greater threat than Chernobyl. Chernobyl was largely contained six months after the disaster. Fukushima may never be largely contained. Fukushima’s initial release of radiation was not as acute as Chernobyl’s. Unfortunately, the Fukushima complex was constructed on an ancient riverbed on the coast. Since TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) is continuously cooling the reactors by injecting seawater into the three reactors in meltdown, Fukushima continues to release hundreds of tons of highly radioactive fluids (millions of times higher than the safe limit for ingestion) into groundwater and into the ocean every day. A resulting plume of seawater and debris is devastating sea life in the Pacific Ocean as it moves east. Because this plume contains Strontium 90, whole fish populations in the Pacific could become unfit for human consumption. Strontium 90 bio-accumulates and behaves like calcium, building up in bone tissue causing leukemia. Note that this plume is due to hit the West Coast in late 2014. Eric TeegardenBrier
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This is follow up for those of you who dismissed this issue because no MAIN stream media picked this up. IMO The Everett Herald is Main Stream.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20140110/OPINION02/140119987/Fukushima-plume-headed-to-West (http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20140110/OPINION02/140119987/Fukushima-plume-headed-to-West)
Fukushima plume headed to West
Three years ago, I wrote a commentary opposing nuclear power due to concerns about nuclear plant safety and waste disposal. Three months later, Fukushima experienced a major earthquake and tsunami that caused three of the six Fukushima Daiichi reactors to lose power and melt down, including Reactor 3 that utilizes MOX fuel containing highly-toxic plutonium. A fourth reactor’s fuel pool is in danger of collapse if hit by another major earthquake. Although Fukushima, like Chernobyl, is classified as a Category 7 nuclear disaster (on the International Nuclear Event Scale), Fukushima remains a far greater threat than Chernobyl. Chernobyl was largely contained six months after the disaster. Fukushima may never be largely contained. Fukushima’s initial release of radiation was not as acute as Chernobyl’s. Unfortunately, the Fukushima complex was constructed on an ancient riverbed on the coast. Since TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) is continuously cooling the reactors by injecting seawater into the three reactors in meltdown, Fukushima continues to release hundreds of tons of highly radioactive fluids (millions of times higher than the safe limit for ingestion) into groundwater and into the ocean every day. A resulting plume of seawater and debris is devastating sea life in the Pacific Ocean as it moves east. Because this plume contains Strontium 90, whole fish populations in the Pacific could become unfit for human consumption. Strontium 90 bio-accumulates and behaves like calcium, building up in bone tissue causing leukemia. Note that this plume is due to hit the West Coast in late 2014. Eric TeegardenBrier
This is a letter to the editor, means nothing.
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http://panokroko.wordpress.com/ (http://panokroko.wordpress.com/)
It appears the Herald letter is a direct quotation.
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http://panokroko.wordpress.com/ (http://panokroko.wordpress.com/)
It appears the Herald letter is a direct quotation.
There are words on that page? :chuckle:
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I guess i stand corrected so far.... Just saw that on the herald and made me remember this topic.
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We quit eating seafood, especially Tuna after the Japan disaster. Just thought it was common sense. No way to know how much polution took place and I do not trust the Gov. or media to tell us the whole truth. Its funny that now it has become an issue? Better safe then sorry.
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So much bogus stuff out there with a touch of facts.
Three links- well written
http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/09/stop-passing-these-scary-stories-about-fukushima-fish-around-social-media/ (http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/09/stop-passing-these-scary-stories-about-fukushima-fish-around-social-media/)
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/Emergencies/UCM253896.pdf (http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/Emergencies/UCM253896.pdf)
http://deepseanews.com/2013/11/true-facts-about-ocean-radiation-and-the-fukushima-disaster/ (http://deepseanews.com/2013/11/true-facts-about-ocean-radiation-and-the-fukushima-disaster/)
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So much bogus stuff out there with a touch of facts.
Three links- well written
http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/09/stop-passing-these-scary-stories-about-fukushima-fish-around-social-media/ (http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/09/stop-passing-these-scary-stories-about-fukushima-fish-around-social-media/)
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/Emergencies/UCM253896.pdf (http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/Emergencies/UCM253896.pdf)
http://deepseanews.com/2013/11/true-facts-about-ocean-radiation-and-the-fukushima-disaster/ (http://deepseanews.com/2013/11/true-facts-about-ocean-radiation-and-the-fukushima-disaster/)
Another one, linked from your first one:
http://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/01/06/its-time-to-play-know-your-sources-of-crap/ (http://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/01/06/its-time-to-play-know-your-sources-of-crap/)
(No offense to the OP)
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Buy a Geiger counter.
After $300 you will find that there's more radiation in the banana you fed your kid than the fish you caught for dinner.
LMFAO!!!! no kidding!!!
then go wave the probe by a smoke detector...bet it would peg the meter!!!
I measured a Luminox watch once with a frisker...WOW, them things are hot...all that tritium on the dial was over 750 counts!!!