Post by: bassquatch on August 13, 2013, 06:00:48 PM
I have been doing some research and am torn between sticking with Remington or going to a Tikka T3? I can't find many bad reviews on the Tikka but a lot of reviews saying that Remington's have really fallen off over the years? So, I guess my question would be, if it were your birthday and your choice, what would you choose and why? I will be sticking with the 30.06 as I just love the versatility of the caliber! Thanks in advance for any input :tup:
Post by: X-Force on August 13, 2013, 06:13:37 PM
It sounds like you already have a great gun. If it still shoots solid and you want a more durable finish nitride the barrel and action and pull off the old stock and put a good aftermarket on it. :twocents:
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 13, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 13, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
Post by: jason stevens on August 13, 2013, 06:29:52 PM
Post by: buckfvr on August 13, 2013, 06:36:01 PM
I had almost this same debate with myself 5 years ago. But with a .270 win. caliber. I finally choose the T3 and it has sat in my safe every since. Never shot more than a few rounds playing around with it. Just can't pull myself away from the bow. :bash:
multi-season tag......I know, I know, I will still use bow most of the modern and definetly muzzle season.
Oh yeah.........lets try the Tikka
Post by: Skillet on August 13, 2013, 06:55:25 PM
But I vote for the T3 stainless lite. Have one in 270wsm and although I'm a wood stock nut, I love this gun for mountain hunting. Smoothest bolt at the price point bar none.
Post by: elkaholic123 on August 13, 2013, 07:07:25 PM
Just kidding get a Rem .06 :chuckle:
Post by: starbailey on August 13, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 13, 2013, 07:10:56 PM
Savage
Tikka
In that order
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 13, 2013, 07:15:17 PM
Post by: Forks on August 13, 2013, 07:17:36 PM
Post by: superdown on August 13, 2013, 07:22:49 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on August 13, 2013, 07:33:45 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 13, 2013, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 13, 2013, 07:43:48 PM
Post by: Shooter on August 13, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
Go to a few of the stores and look at as many as you can and buy what YOU like, and by the way Happy Birthday next month, it would be fun to hear about what you get. The good news is most major manufactures are making rifles that shoot better than what most people can shoot them, great values everywhere in my opinion.
Post by: Savage.06Shot on August 13, 2013, 07:46:54 PM
Post by: coachcw on August 13, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
Post by: AdnaHunter on August 13, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
Post by: Bob33 on August 13, 2013, 08:27:20 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on August 13, 2013, 08:40:26 PM
Post by: Maligator on August 13, 2013, 08:55:19 PM
The Tikkas/Sakos just have an out of the box accuracy and butter smooth bolt that you have to "upgrade" on the remmington to even get into the same ballpark. :dunno:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 13, 2013, 08:55:40 PM
TIKKA'S SUCK!!!! :bash:
Bi-Mart is currently selling the Remington 700 SPS synthetics in stainless in any flavor of factory chambering that fits your fancy for 489.00. That is their scope rifle package, I have purchased 4 over the last couple years. 2 in the stainless(.300 Win, .243 Win) & 2 in the matte blue(.300 Ultra, 7mm Magnum) All have shot well with handloads. You can always upgrade the stock later.
You can't go wrong with a Remington 700. :tup: :tup:
Tikka's started out at 400.00 bucks, now that thing is going to run you 700.00 plus out the door for a stainless. I would rather throw the cash down for a Sako Finnlite or A7 way before I would take it in the shorts for a Tikka.
Hahaha!
I have this picture in my head of a yellow Pruis, the driver with a pocket full of Barnes crap and a Tikka riding shotgun. Ah hahaha!
Post by: Crunchy on August 13, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on August 13, 2013, 09:12:35 PM
Post by: snowpack on August 13, 2013, 09:13:52 PM
Post by: dscubame on August 13, 2013, 09:19:30 PM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on August 13, 2013, 09:27:47 PM
As a red blooded American that has fielded a Rem700 for the last 12 years ( Good Man!). You have a responsibility, no! A duty as I do to continue to field Remington's and not sell out to the Tikka trinket crap! :tup: ;)With an M&P on his hip! :bash:
TIKKA'S SUCK!!!! :bash:
Bi-Mart is currently selling the Remington 700 SPS synthetics in stainless in any flavor of factory chambering that fits your fancy for 489.00. That is their scope rifle package, I have purchased 4 over the last couple years. 2 in the stainless(.300 Win, .243 Win) & 2 in the matte blue(.300 Ultra, 7mm Magnum) All have shot well with handloads. You can always upgrade the stock later.
You can't go wrong with a Remington 700. :tup: :tup:
Tikka's started out at 400.00 bucks, now that thing is going to run you 700.00 plus out the door for a stainless. I would rather throw the cash down for a Sako Finnlite or A7 way before I would take it in the shorts for a Tikka.
Hahaha!
I have this picture in my head of a yellow Pruis, the driver with a pocket full of Barnes crap and a Tikka riding shotgun. Ah hahaha!
Post by: idahohuntr on August 13, 2013, 09:29:35 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 13, 2013, 09:31:23 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 13, 2013, 09:33:12 PM
Simple, buy all 3 to keep the family happy. One for her, 2 for you............ :tup::tup:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 13, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
As a red blooded American that has fielded a Rem700 for the last 12 years ( Good Man!). You have a responsibility, no! A duty as I do to continue to field Remington's and not sell out to the Tikka trinket crap! :tup: ;)Pure wisdom right here.
TIKKA'S SUCK!!!! :bash:
Bi-Mart is currently selling the Remington 700 SPS synthetics in stainless in any flavor of factory chambering that fits your fancy for 489.00. That is their scope rifle package, I have purchased 4 over the last couple years. 2 in the stainless(.300 Win, .243 Win) & 2 in the matte blue(.300 Ultra, 7mm Magnum) All have shot well with handloads. You can always upgrade the stock later.
You can't go wrong with a Remington 700. :tup: :tup:
Tikka's started out at 400.00 bucks, now that thing is going to run you 700.00 plus out the door for a stainless. I would rather throw the cash down for a Sako Finnlite or A7 way before I would take it in the shorts for a Tikka.
Hahaha!
I have this picture in my head of a yellow Pruis, the driver with a pocket full of Barnes crap and a Tikka riding shotgun. Ah hahaha!
them tikkas may shoot but they still feel like cheap toys to me.
Post by: mountainman on August 13, 2013, 09:41:50 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 13, 2013, 10:02:40 PM
WAs a red blooded American that has fielded a Rem700 for the last 12 years ( Good Man!). You have a responsibility, no! A duty as I do to continue to field Remington's and not sell out to the Tikka trinket crap! :tup: ;)With an M&P on his hip! :bash:
TIKKA'S SUCK!!!! :bash:
Bi-Mart is currently selling the Remington 700 SPS synthetics in stainless in any flavor of factory chambering that fits your fancy for 489.00. That is their scope rifle package, I have purchased 4 over the last couple years. 2 in the stainless(.300 Win, .243 Win) & 2 in the matte blue(.300 Ultra, 7mm Magnum) All have shot well with handloads. You can always upgrade the stock later.
You can't go wrong with a Remington 700. :tup: :tup:
Tikka's started out at 400.00 bucks, now that thing is going to run you 700.00 plus out the door for a stainless. I would rather throw the cash down for a Sako Finnlite or A7 way before I would take it in the shorts for a Tikka.
Hahaha!
I have this picture in my head of a yellow Pruis, the driver with a pocket full of Barnes crap and a Tikka riding shotgun. Ah hahaha!
The M&P is unloaded in the glove box because he is clueless as to its operation. The retail salesmen behind the counter just said it was cool. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Fowlweather25 on August 13, 2013, 10:04:04 PM
Post by: Ingwe on August 13, 2013, 10:04:40 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 13, 2013, 10:10:37 PM
Remington- 10
:puke: Tikka-11
Post by: mountainman on August 13, 2013, 10:12:20 PM
While there is more aftermarket support for the Remington ,for strictly a hunting rifle, the T-3 would be less of a gamble. Remington's are hit and miss. With the T-3 you get an accurate rifle, removable mag, and a very easily adjustable trigger. There are aftermarket rails available for the T-3 also.
True that :tup:
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 13, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
Well so far the score in this thread is:
:puke: Remington- 10
Tikka-11
Make that 12. :chuckle:
Post by: mountainman on August 13, 2013, 10:25:29 PM
Post by: hunterrcc on August 13, 2013, 10:28:07 PM
Post by: JWhite22 on August 13, 2013, 10:32:59 PM
Post by: hunter75 on August 13, 2013, 10:33:46 PM
The attached picture is the tikka @ 200 yards.
Post by: Wacenturion on August 13, 2013, 10:35:01 PM
I perfer nice wood and blue, but you can certainly find whatever combo synthetic, stainless, whatever in those new Winchesters. Check Winchester's site. By all accounts they shoot really well out of the box.
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 13, 2013, 10:40:34 PM
Do yourself a favor and and least take a look at the "new" (beginning in 2008) South Carolina made Winchester Model 70's. Many Winchester fans think they might possibly be the best Model 70's yet, or if not, at least as good as the pre-64's. Thery are an exact reproduction with state of the art machines.
I perfer nice wood and blue, but you can certainly find whatever combo synthetic, stainless, whatever in those new Winchesters. Check Winchester's site. By all accounts they shoot really well out of the box.
A friend picked one up in .325 WSM, I was witness to the first three handloads through it. One ragged hole at 100 yards. Not a clover leaf, one ragged hole. I was fairly impressed.
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 13, 2013, 10:45:15 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 13, 2013, 10:54:45 PM
Post by: bassquatch on August 13, 2013, 11:05:19 PM
Sounds like you have the green light and only buy a rifle every 12 years or so, step up and buy yourself your dream package whatever that is. I like the stock on the Sako A7 a bit better then the T3, I like the stock on the Sako Finnlight 10 times better than the T3 or A7 but it really doesn't matter what I like.
Go to a few of the stores and look at as many as you can and buy what YOU like, and by the way Happy Birthday next month, it would be fun to hear about what you get. The good news is most major manufactures are making rifles that shoot better than what most people can shoot them, great values everywhere in my opinion.
Thank you sir! :tup:
I am definitely appreciating the input everyone, thanks! I plan on getting out and getting all touchy feely with a few models of each brand hopefully next week! I contemplated Savage, but the more research I do the more I return to these two brands.
My current rifle does wander a bit? Maybe the scope? I made a "2 click" adjustment last sight in and the round jumped 3 inches :yike: Not sure what to think but I did take a spill with the gun and I think the scope may have an issue now? Sending that in to Leupold to be checked. My son can do with this gun as he pleases and I am sure he won't just leave it 'as is'! He has already discussed a trigger, a stock and possibly bedding it? His choice.
Bassquatch, as you can see, MOST on here agree they are both great brands, obviously they are. But almost 2-1, folks here who actually shoot and own either model, and those are the opinions to listen too, believe the Tikka to be the better bargain of the two! But as most would also agree, they are both great choices. Best to grab one of both and have both bases covered! If you can convince the Mrs of that! Lol!
If one was 'for her' in .243 or .270! I like the way you think though :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on August 13, 2013, 11:05:30 PM
.02
Post by: fishngamereaper on August 13, 2013, 11:06:14 PM
To each there own. I would test drive a few guns before buying based soley on what a bunch of knuckle draggers on the web think. :twocents:
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 13, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
Post by: TVHunts on August 14, 2013, 06:49:07 AM
I would send that Leupold VXII in for the meagar shipping cost and have them go through it, it's free!
Post by: Killmore on August 14, 2013, 08:36:48 AM
Post by: thinkingman on August 14, 2013, 09:11:47 AM
Remington if you want a heavier gun that requires another $300 in upgrades just to shoot as well as the Tikka.
Or you could get a bargain-priced Sako(T3).
Or you could spend $2k to get a Remington down to 6.3lbs for that high mountain hunt, or just buy the Tikka.
Or you could buy the Remington because 'That's what the military snipers use!'...Yup, just like the one at Dick's ;)
My money goes to Tikka. No regrets.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on August 14, 2013, 09:16:26 AM
-Steve
Post by: bassquatch on August 14, 2013, 10:06:53 AM
I have also had both and give the Remington my vote. SPS stainless would be my choice in that price range. My next choice would be the Savage over the tikka.
I would send that Leupold VXII in for the meagar shipping cost and have them go through it, it's free!
Exactly what I am going to do! The new gun will take care of this years seasons and the current will get a good go through at a shop before being set aside for the kid, including getting the scope back to Leupold for inspection.
I am definitely going to take the opportunity to shoot both models if possible before I buy! In reading all these comments I can see why I have been going back and forth between these two, they both have enough good points to be considered, just a matter of getting 'hands on' and letting that be the deciding factor?!
Thanks again everyone, I have enjoyed the comments greatly :chuckle: :tup:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 14, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
All the things that matter, weight, accuracy, action, trigger, detachable mag, point to Tikka.
Remington if you want a heavier gun that requires another $300 in upgrades just to shoot as well as the Tikka.
Or you could get a bargain-priced Sako(T3).
Or you could spend $2k to get a Remington down to 6.3lbs for that high mountain hunt, or just buy the Tikka.
Or you could buy the Remington because 'That's what the military snipers use!'...Yup, just like the one at Dick's ;)
My money goes to Tikka. No regrets.
Sure.👍 There's a reason why the majority of custom, long range & your so called "Sniper Rifles" are built on Rem700 actions.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto_zps6ea3bcbd.jpg&hash=f373205e03593bc410eefef4427cef4071c20037)
Factory Remington 700 ADL. .270 Win @ 300 yards, purchased new from Bi-Mart for 319.00. Wish it shot a little tighter.😉
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto-5.jpg&hash=266b9d612bea8056b6ddeb60852671ffeb3aec1b)
Post by: mountainman on August 14, 2013, 08:19:03 PM
Post by: coachcw on August 14, 2013, 09:19:35 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 14, 2013, 09:29:36 PM
tikkas look and feel like crap , plastic box mags no doubt . that being said they flat shoot outta the box . I love my 700,s but when I step into the field and strap on my pack it's tough not to grab the tikka. this year I will be packing my wheatherby mv ultra light just incase I bump into hammer .:chuckle:
Post by: Salmo on August 14, 2013, 10:12:59 PM
So I got the 'go for it' for a new hunting rifle next month for my birthday :IBCOOL: I have been shooting a Remington Model 700BDL wood stock with a Leupold 3x9 VXII in 30.06 for 12 years now. It has been a decent gun for a first hunting rifle but it's time for a change, I would like to go stainless steel and synthetic stock this go round.... I was a carbine guy before I got into hunting and hunting rifles were a bit of a learning experience for me (not overheating the barrel especially) I went a little Lee Harvey when I first bought my current gun....oops. I would like to give my current gun to my son when he gets out of the Army so now is as good a time as any to upgrade!
I have been doing some research and am torn between sticking with Remington or going to a Tikka T3? I can't find many bad reviews on the Tikka but a lot of reviews saying that Remington's have really fallen off over the years? So, I guess my question would be, if it were your birthday and your choice, what would you choose and why? I will be sticking with the 30.06 as I just love the versatility of the caliber! Thanks in advance for any input :tup:
Find a Sako A7. You'll never regret it. And you'll never sell it.
Post by: thinkingman on August 15, 2013, 08:54:28 AM
It couldn't be because that round, barstock receiver, designed for mass production with minimal skills, can be turned on a lathe and easily trued(not that they would need that! ;)) and same goes for the bolt.All the things that matter, weight, accuracy, action, trigger, detachable mag, point to Tikka.
Remington if you want a heavier gun that requires another $300 in upgrades just to shoot as well as the Tikka.
Or you could get a bargain-priced Sako(T3).
Or you could spend $2k to get a Remington down to 6.3lbs for that high mountain hunt, or just buy the Tikka.
Or you could buy the Remington because 'That's what the military snipers use!'...Yup, just like the one at Dick's ;)
My money goes to Tikka. No regrets.
Sure.👍 There's a reason why the majority of custom, long range & your so called "Sniper Rifles" are built on Rem700 actions.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto_zps6ea3bcbd.jpg&hash=f373205e03593bc410eefef4427cef4071c20037)
Factory Remington 700 ADL. .270 Win @ 300 yards, purchased new from Bi-Mart for 319.00. Wish it shot a little tighter.😉
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto-5.jpg&hash=266b9d612bea8056b6ddeb60852671ffeb3aec1b)
'Sniper Rifles' for US military were also built on M70 actions.
Congrats on the grouping...it looks just like a typical Tikka/Sako group.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 15, 2013, 09:27:04 AM
It couldn't be because that round, barstock receiver, designed for mass production with minimal skills, can be turned on a lathe and easily trued(not that they would need that! ;)) and same goes for the bolt.All the things that matter, weight, accuracy, action, trigger, detachable mag, point to Tikka.
Remington if you want a heavier gun that requires another $300 in upgrades just to shoot as well as the Tikka.
Or you could get a bargain-priced Sako(T3).
Or you could spend $2k to get a Remington down to 6.3lbs for that high mountain hunt, or just buy the Tikka.
Or you could buy the Remington because 'That's what the military snipers use!'...Yup, just like the one at Dick's ;)
My money goes to Tikka. No regrets.
Sure.👍 There's a reason why the majority of custom, long range & your so called "Sniper Rifles" are built on Rem700 actions.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto_zps6ea3bcbd.jpg&hash=f373205e03593bc410eefef4427cef4071c20037)
Factory Remington 700 ADL. .270 Win @ 300 yards, purchased new from Bi-Mart for 319.00. Wish it shot a little tighter.😉
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto-5.jpg&hash=266b9d612bea8056b6ddeb60852671ffeb3aec1b)
'Sniper Rifles' for US military were also built on M70 actions.
Congrats on the grouping...it looks just like a typical Tikka/Sako group.
Ok, so how many custom receivers are copies of the 700? And how many are copies of the Tikka?
I don't think any of the M70's went to any tier 1 or tier 2 units. That said Gunny Hathcock did use a model 70 during Vietnam.
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 15, 2013, 09:37:27 AM
tikkas look and feel like crap , plastic box mags no doubt . that being said they flat shoot outta the box . I love my 700,s but when I step into the field and strap on my pack it's tough not to grab the tikka. this year I will be packing my wheatherby mv ultra light just incase I bump into hammer .
I don't mind packing a 16 pound Remington custom heavy all day long. I can hack it, usually by the end of the day or hunt. I have allot more than 16 pounds on my pack frame. :tup:
Post by: mountainman on August 15, 2013, 11:24:56 AM
Post by: Skillet on August 15, 2013, 11:48:48 AM
bassquatch, I'm in Everett. I need to get out and shoot again here soon, so you're welcome to meet me and squeeze off a few from my Tikka T3 Lite Stainless just to try it out if you want.
Post by: mountainman on August 15, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
:yeah:
bassquatch, I'm in Everett. I need to get out and shoot again here soon, so you're welcome to meet me and squeeze off a few from my Tikka T3 Lite Stainless just to try it out if you want.
Love the generosity of HunWa members,, :tup: :tup:
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 15, 2013, 01:09:24 PM
If your gona stay with the .06 caliber keep the gun ya got. Maybe go pillar bed, float the barrel, and get a timney trigger. Spend the money on better optics. Option 2-keep the action, toss the rest and go semi custom.
I definitely second this. If you're going to buy the same caliber, why not stick with what you have and what works? If you aren't recoil shy, I'd up it to a .300 WM. Ammo is everywhere, shoot the same bullet you do out of an -06, but put it on a trajectory more like a varmint round. You have a lot of availability for different loads if you handload, why not?
I'd keep an eye out on the used guns at Cabelas. I think the older versions were higher quality than most of the popular brand new ones and you can sometimes find ones with nice scopes on them (well Leupold, but thats nice in my book).
I think if I were going to buy new and were in your shoes, I'd do a savage .300 WM (or 7mm if that tickles your fancy) with an accutrigger, but hey, to each their own.
Post by: Jim the Plumber on August 15, 2013, 02:07:46 PM
He wants to give his current rifle to his son.......If your gona stay with the .06 caliber keep the gun ya got. Maybe go pillar bed, float the barrel, and get a timney trigger. Spend the money on better optics. Option 2-keep the action, toss the rest and go semi custom.
I definitely second this. If you're going to buy the same caliber, why not stick with what you have and what works? If you aren't recoil shy, I'd up it to a .300 WM. Ammo is everywhere, shoot the same bullet you do out of an -06, but put it on a trajectory more like a varmint round. You have a lot of availability for different loads if you handload, why not?
I'd keep an eye out on the used guns at Cabelas. I think the older versions were higher quality than most of the popular brand new ones and you can sometimes find ones with nice scopes on them (well Leupold, but thats nice in my book).
I think if I were going to buy new and were in your shoes, I'd do a savage .300 WM (or 7mm if that tickles your fancy) with an accutrigger, but hey, to each their own.
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2013, 02:48:50 PM
Tikka has sure made some inroads into what we call the classics here in the U.S., but competition is good to keep all manufactures striving to put out the absolute best product they can! Pick what fits best for you, then go shoot the heck out of it! Good hunting!
And you know Tikka is doing something right to amass an army of haters that come out of the woods at a mere mention of a Tikka.
LOVE THE TIKKA!!
Post by: Mongo Hunter on August 15, 2013, 03:13:58 PM
I have 2, one in 30-06 and one in 7mm. both are OUTSTANDING guns. I'm not sure were the whole "spend a lot of money" to get them to shoot accurately comes from but each their own I guess. I've shot factory and hand loads out of both, the hand loads obviously shoot better because I measure EVERY shot but the factory ones do just fine. I'm just picky.
Post by: Fowlweather25 on August 15, 2013, 03:19:17 PM
+1 RemingtonPeople not being able to operate a trigger correctly so they think they can pay to be more accurate! :chuckle:
I have 2, one in 30-06 and one in 7mm. both are OUTSTANDING guns. I'm not sure were the whole "spend a lot of money" to get them to shoot accurately comes from but each their own I guess. I've shot factory and hand loads out of both, the hand loads obviously shoot better because I measure EVERY shot but the factory ones do just fine. I'm just picky.
Post by: thinkingman on August 15, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
When a lathe is your only machine tool, the results look like an M700.It couldn't be because that round, barstock receiver, designed for mass production with minimal skills, can be turned on a lathe and easily trued(not that they would need that! ;)) and same goes for the bolt.All the things that matter, weight, accuracy, action, trigger, detachable mag, point to Tikka.
Remington if you want a heavier gun that requires another $300 in upgrades just to shoot as well as the Tikka.
Or you could get a bargain-priced Sako(T3).
Or you could spend $2k to get a Remington down to 6.3lbs for that high mountain hunt, or just buy the Tikka.
Or you could buy the Remington because 'That's what the military snipers use!'...Yup, just like the one at Dick's ;)
My money goes to Tikka. No regrets.
Sure.👍 There's a reason why the majority of custom, long range & your so called "Sniper Rifles" are built on Rem700 actions.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto_zps6ea3bcbd.jpg&hash=f373205e03593bc410eefef4427cef4071c20037)
Factory Remington 700 ADL. .270 Win @ 300 yards, purchased new from Bi-Mart for 319.00. Wish it shot a little tighter.😉
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto-5.jpg&hash=266b9d612bea8056b6ddeb60852671ffeb3aec1b)
'Sniper Rifles' for US military were also built on M70 actions.
Congrats on the grouping...it looks just like a typical Tikka/Sako group.
Ok, so how many custom receivers are copies of the 700? And how many are copies of the Tikka?
I don't think any of the M70's went to any tier 1 or tier 2 units. That said Gunny Hathcock did use a model 70 during Vietnam.
Plus the aftermarket is flooded with (unnecessary?)parts.
M700 action makes a lot of people able to be a 'gunsmith'.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on August 15, 2013, 03:33:54 PM
+1 RemingtonPeople not being able to operate a trigger correctly so they think they can pay to be more accurate! :chuckle:
I have 2, one in 30-06 and one in 7mm. both are OUTSTANDING guns. I'm not sure were the whole "spend a lot of money" to get them to shoot accurately comes from but each their own I guess. I've shot factory and hand loads out of both, the hand loads obviously shoot better because I measure EVERY shot but the factory ones do just fine. I'm just picky.
SO TRUE! And a lot of people don't want to admit that most guns can shoot better than they can. Ive heard more than once "this gun don't shoot". than I shoot it and get a killer group. I hand the gun back and say "shoots just fine" lol :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 15, 2013, 03:48:34 PM
we're not all as macho ;). In the high country, light weight coupled with accuracy wins in my book every time.
I already know that Mtn Man. :tup:, glad that's cleared up. I'm not speaking for the others. ;) Light is over rated, if one can't hack it. Get of the sofa, lay off the fast food or take up knitting. :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 15, 2013, 03:53:14 PM
+1 RemingtonPeople not being able to operate a trigger correctly so they think they can pay to be more accurate! :chuckle:
I have 2, one in 30-06 and one in 7mm. both are OUTSTANDING guns. I'm not sure were the whole "spend a lot of money" to get them to shoot accurately comes from but each their own I guess. I've shot factory and hand loads out of both, the hand loads obviously shoot better because I measure EVERY shot but the factory ones do just fine. I'm just picky.
SO TRUE! And a lot of people don't want to admit that most guns can shoot better than they can. Ive heard more than once "this gun don't shoot". than I shoot it and get a killer group. I hand the gun back and say "shoots just fine" lol :chuckle:
That's great!
Post by: Buckmark on August 15, 2013, 04:18:34 PM
"Tikka T3 offers no gilded engravings, no extra cup holders or delicate polished wood "
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Thats a good enough reason for me to not buy one... :chuckle:
Post by: Jellymon on August 15, 2013, 04:53:52 PM
From tikkas website:
"Tikka T3 offers no gilded engravings, no extra cup holders or delicate polished wood "
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Thats a good enough reason for me to not buy one... :chuckle:
No cup holders? Where are all the road hunters going to put their beer?
Post by: Bob33 on August 15, 2013, 05:14:49 PM
They are both fine rifles. Pick the one that feels better in your hands and don't look back.
And take good care of your wife!
Post by: bassquatch on August 15, 2013, 05:25:01 PM
:yeah:
bassquatch, I'm in Everett. I need to get out and shoot again here soon, so you're welcome to meet me and squeeze off a few from my Tikka T3 Lite Stainless just to try it out if you want.
Uhhhhh ABSOLUTELY!! Are you serious? That's a heck of an offer! I will bring my current one as well for a 'second opinion' on the possible scope issue?! I try to shoot nice factory stuff, I don't have the extra time or resources to get into reloading right now...too many other endeavors. I will pm you with contact info Skillet :tup:
Post by: Skillet on August 15, 2013, 06:29:08 PM
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Post by: coop2424 on August 16, 2013, 10:03:37 AM
Post by: bassquatch on August 16, 2013, 02:31:33 PM
You bet. It's really not a big deal, just shooting a few rounds... but just so we're on the same page- you do understand that "squeeze off a few from my Tikka" isn't code for sleeping with my girlfriend or anything. She'd probably want me to run that by her first. :chuckle:
:lol4: I'm married :chuckle:
Post by: shrek on August 16, 2013, 07:04:41 PM
Post by: C-Money on August 16, 2013, 07:29:02 PM
Post by: rasbo on August 16, 2013, 07:33:42 PM
Post by: bassquatch on August 17, 2013, 05:43:13 AM
please ask your wife if she would adopt me :chuckle: hope you enjoy it
Sorry Charlie :nono: :chuckle:
Sounds like you have a great deer elk set up already! Anything els on your wish list you could cash in on? A BDL with a vxII in 30-06 is about as good as it gets!
Yep! I promised it to my son for making it into the Army though, he worked his butt off, and a deal is a deal. That's why I am thinking of just towing the line and sticking with a similar set up but just going stainless and composite for a change of pace? I just don't want to overlook the Tikka in the process as I have heard nothing but good things about them....well, until this post at least :chuckle:
Post by: Taco280AI on August 17, 2013, 06:46:51 AM
Post by: bassquatch on August 17, 2013, 10:16:58 AM
Keep your rifle, put a good stock on it, bed it, if a smith can do it quick enough put a new barrel on it, then have it cerekoted for weather.
Son gets current rifle...
Post by: Bigshooter on August 17, 2013, 11:03:15 AM
we're not all as macho ;). In the high country, light weight coupled with accuracy wins in my book every time.
I already know that Mtn Man. :tup:, glad that's cleared up. I'm not speaking for the others. ;) Light is over rated, if one can't hack it. Get of the sofa, lay off the fast food or take up knitting. :chuckle:
I agree.
Put my vote in for remington.
I have never picked up a rifle that looks and feels as cheap as a tikka. I would be to embarrassed to be seen hunting with a tikka. I think it would be a lot like using a tasco scope.
Post by: bod on August 18, 2013, 05:39:34 PM
your call sign shows your gun equivelance
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 18, 2013, 06:41:33 PM
schrek
your call sign shows your gun equivelance
I would disagree, his screen name would be "Crapola" if he was leaning the Tikka way. ;)
Post by: predatorpro on August 18, 2013, 06:50:51 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 18, 2013, 06:58:28 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 18, 2013, 07:12:58 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 18, 2013, 07:21:12 PM
A lot of Tikka hate from a man who addmitedly has never owned one..buy one, try one, then your opinion will hold some water..
I don't need to buy a pile of crap to know its a pile of crap. At a quick glance I know it's crap and move on. ;)
Post by: predatorpro on August 18, 2013, 07:36:13 PM
to be honest those piles of crap tikka out shoot my remington 700 any day off the shelf....A lot of Tikka hate from a man who addmitedly has never owned one..buy one, try one, then your opinion will hold some water..
I don't need to buy a pile of crap to know its a pile of crap. At a quick glance I know it's crap and move on. ;)
Post by: mountainman on August 18, 2013, 07:59:56 PM
to be honest those piles of crap tikka out shoot my remington 700 any day off the shelf....A lot of Tikka hate from a man who addmitedly has never owned one..buy one, try one, then your opinion will hold some water..
I don't need to buy a pile of crap to know its a pile of crap. At a quick glance I know it's crap and move on. ;)
Many here are of that same opinion...
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 18, 2013, 08:14:32 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 18, 2013, 08:39:47 PM
I have one of each guns made in the world and they all shoot. :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 18, 2013, 08:47:54 PM
I have one of each guns made in the world and they all shoot. :chuckle:
I'm green with envy! ;)
Post by: shrek on August 19, 2013, 08:27:19 AM
schrek
your call sign shows your gun equivelance
Bod, your spelling of my name speaks volumes, I wouldn't expect anything less, than you luvin tikkas... Congratulations ...
Post by: bassquatch on August 20, 2013, 05:34:59 PM
Strolled through the used rifles, most of the good ones were 300 Win Mags? Too much gun for folks I guess? The couple 30.06's they had were either Savages or kinda rough. Not sure I would opt for used anyways as I prefer NEW when it comes to my guns, unless I personally know the previous owner.
That's the update for now, thanks again for all the input! :tup: pissing contests aside I have found the insight very helpful!
Post by: ebusa on August 20, 2013, 07:49:07 PM
Post by: KFhunter on August 20, 2013, 08:02:13 PM
If you want to fart with it - remmy
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 20, 2013, 08:03:48 PM
I have one of each guns made in the world and they all shoot. :chuckle:
I'm green with envy! ;)
I don't have any ammo though............... :o
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 21, 2013, 01:49:28 PM
Post by: dscubame on August 21, 2013, 01:56:52 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 21, 2013, 02:21:22 PM
After you get the remmy to the smith and spend some dough you might get it shooting like a Tikka. :chuckle:
Hahaha! Snivel, snivel.. Drip, drip.... 😊
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on August 21, 2013, 03:36:36 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 21, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
After you get the remmy to the smith and spend some dough you might get it shooting like a Tikka. :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
After you get the remmy to the smith and spend some dough you might get it shooting like a Tikka. :chuckle:
Hahaha! Snivel, snivel.. Drip, drip.... 😊
Allergies or just crying again? ;) :chuckle:
Post by: Southpole on August 21, 2013, 03:58:36 PM
Post by: thinkingman on August 21, 2013, 04:04:07 PM
A friend of mine bought a Remington 700 SPS standard in the 30.06 last week (wedding gift card from me). It was advertised to be free floating and it wasn't. We went to shoot it and it was all over the place. Another friend of ours said he had the exact same rifle and it had the same problem, not free floating. So he had it free floated and shot it again and it's shooting 1/2 groups at 100 yards. So I guess that's something to think about if you go the Remington route. Not a huge deal, but there isn't going to be any "out of the box" accuracy, not with that model anyway.RemmyHammer will be along shortly to correct you and your friend regarding your experience.
R700's are God's gift to rifle shooters.
Post by: Southpole on August 21, 2013, 04:06:02 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 21, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 21, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
A friend of mine bought a Remington 700 SPS standard in the 30.06 last week (wedding gift card from me). It was advertised to be free floating and it wasn't. We went to shoot it and it was all over the place. Another friend of ours said he had the exact same rifle and it had the same problem, not free floating. So he had it free floated and shot it again and it's shooting 1/2 groups at 100 yards. So I guess that's something to think about if you go the Remington route. Not a huge deal, but there isn't going to be any "out of the box" accuracy, not with that model anyway.RemmyHammer will be along shortly to correct you and your friend regarding your experience.
R700's are God's gift to rifle shooters.
Hahaha! Remmyhammer..fits better then Biggerhammer! Yep, he will always be around to correct, keeps this site amusing for most here! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 21, 2013, 04:31:54 PM
A friend of mine bought a Remington 700 SPS standard in the 30.06 last week (wedding gift card from me). It was advertised to be free floating and it wasn't. We went to shoot it and it was all over the place. Another friend of ours said he had the exact same rifle and it had the same problem, not free floating. So he had it free floated and shot it again and it's shooting 1/2 groups at 100 yards. So I guess that's something to think about if you go the Remington route. Not a huge deal, but there isn't going to be any "out of the box" accuracy, not with that model anyway.RemmyHammer will be along shortly to correct you and your friend regarding your experience.
R700's are God's gift to rifle shooters.
Hahaha! Remmyhammer..fits better then Biggerhammer! Yep, he will always be around to correct, keeps this site amusing for most here! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I just enjoy you following me around like a frustrated little school girl. 😉
Post by: Southpole on August 21, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 21, 2013, 04:48:25 PM
A friend of mine bought a Remington 700 SPS standard in the 30.06 last week (wedding gift card from me). It was advertised to be free floating and it wasn't. We went to shoot it and it was all over the place. Another friend of ours said he had the exact same rifle and it had the same problem, not free floating. So he had it free floated and shot it again and it's shooting 1/2 groups at 100 yards. So I guess that's something to think about if you go the Remington route. Not a huge deal, but there isn't going to be any "out of the box" accuracy, not with that model anyway.RemmyHammer will be along shortly to correct you and your friend regarding your experience.
R700's are God's gift to rifle shooters.
Hahaha! Remmyhammer..fits better then Biggerhammer! Yep, he will always be around to correct, keeps this site amusing for most here! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I just enjoy you following me around like a frustrated little school girl. 😉
Lol, who follows ;)who? Sillyhammer.. :chuckle: we all know better..Tikka, Remington? Barnes, M&P? Vortex? They all work, they all kill game. use what you will, others will use what they have faith in! Hope you find some time to actually go out and kill something this year! :tup:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 21, 2013, 04:51:25 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 21, 2013, 04:57:37 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 21, 2013, 06:15:46 PM
There are a few members following each other around to take jabs at each other. This is a final warning, the next guy who takes a poke at another member in this little group will take 3 days off, if you've been banned before then it will be longer than before.
I'm not joking and informing the mods to take action on the first of you to poke at the other.
Post by: bassquatch on August 21, 2013, 08:40:04 PM
A friend of mine bought a Remington 700 SPS standard in the 30.06 last week (wedding gift card from me). It was advertised to be free floating and it wasn't. We went to shoot it and it was all over the place. Another friend of ours said he had the exact same rifle and it had the same problem, not free floating. So he had it free floated and shot it again and it's shooting 1/2 groups at 100 yards. So I guess that's something to think about if you go the Remington route. Not a huge deal, but there isn't going to be any "out of the box" accuracy, not with that model anyway.
Interesting? I was wondering about the 'free floating' when I was handling it at the store, it sure didn't look it as the stock seemed awfully snug? Mine had a "lump" on the inside of the stock right where the front sling post screws in...couldn't get a dollar bill past it. I don't use a sling so I attacked it with the Dremel and there's no contact now! Need to go shoot it again to see if it helped?
I personally love my Remington ADL in .270 with a cheap Bushnell 3-9 that I bought 11 years ago for $325 that was supposed to "get me by" until I could afford something nicer. That rifle is one heck of a boat paddle, heavy as heck too. Out of the box I shot 1" groups with factory ammo at 100 yards. I rarely clean it, it's been smashed in the rocks once when the sling broke (scope never budged when I check the accuracy later), it's been sat on several times (by me) laying on the tail gate of pickups, I've yet to ever have to re adjust the scope when I get ready for bear/deer season and I've sucessfully shot 6 deer and 1 bear with it... the list goes on it's been very good to me as bad as I've treated it. I also have to give props to the Bushnell scope. Oh yeah, I still have yet to replace it like I keep threatening to do every year, but I can't argue with success... I named her Ol' Bertha
Nice :tup: I definitely don't hate Remington by any means, I have just hunted with one for 12 years and am thinking of a change of pace. Just pondering different Remington or completely different Tikka?? That's about all it boils down to. Just really like the input from folks on this site, I haven't been disappointed once! :tup:
Post by: Southpole on August 21, 2013, 09:21:47 PM
My husband is a Tikka man but I'm a traditional girl with the Remington. Can't go wrong with either ;)A friend of mine bought a Remington 700 SPS standard in the 30.06 last week (wedding gift card from me). It was advertised to be free floating and it wasn't. We went to shoot it and it was all over the place. Another friend of ours said he had the exact same rifle and it had the same problem, not free floating. So he had it free floated and shot it again and it's shooting 1/2 groups at 100 yards. So I guess that's something to think about if you go the Remington route. Not a huge deal, but there isn't going to be any "out of the box" accuracy, not with that model anyway.
Interesting? I was wondering about the 'free floating' when I was handling it at the store, it sure didn't look it as the stock seemed awfully snug? Mine had a "lump" on the inside of the stock right where the front sling post screws in...couldn't get a dollar bill past it. I don't use a sling so I attacked it with the Dremel and there's no contact now! Need to go shoot it again to see if it helped?I personally love my Remington ADL in .270 with a cheap Bushnell 3-9 that I bought 11 years ago for $325 that was supposed to "get me by" until I could afford something nicer. That rifle is one heck of a boat paddle, heavy as heck too. Out of the box I shot 1" groups with factory ammo at 100 yards. I rarely clean it, it's been smashed in the rocks once when the sling broke (scope never budged when I check the accuracy later), it's been sat on several times (by me) laying on the tail gate of pickups, I've yet to ever have to re adjust the scope when I get ready for bear/deer season and I've successfully shot 6 deer and 1 bear with it... the list goes on it's been very good to me as bad as I've treated it. I also have to give props to the Bushnell scope. Oh yeah, I still have yet to replace it like I keep threatening to do every year, but I can't argue with success... I named her Ol' Bertha
Nice :tup: I definitely don't hate Remington by any means, I have just hunted with one for 12 years and am thinking of a change of pace. Just pondering different Remington or completely different Tikka?? That's about all it boils down to. Just really like the input from folks on this site, I haven't been disappointed once! :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 21, 2013, 09:32:28 PM
Post by: bassquatch on August 22, 2013, 07:51:22 AM
Hurry up bassquatch, show us your new gun.
That's way too much peer pressure! :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 22, 2013, 06:13:17 PM
Hurry up bassquatch, show us your new gun.
That's way too much peer pressure! :chuckle:
Don't let anybody pressure you into anything.......
Post by: Buckmark on August 22, 2013, 06:17:08 PM
Campmeat the guidance counselor... :chuckle:Hurry up bassquatch, show us your new gun.
That's way too much peer pressure! :chuckle:
Don't let anybody pressure you into anything.......
BTW, saw a nice blackie yesterday, i was over for a night.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 22, 2013, 06:19:55 PM
Campmeat the guidance counselor... :chuckle:Hurry up bassquatch, show us your new gun.
That's way too much peer pressure! :chuckle:
Don't let anybody pressure you into anything.......
BTW, saw a nice blackie yesterday, i was over for a night.
I am a good counselor, ain't I
I had one in my yard this morning eating on my deer block.
Post by: KFhunter on August 23, 2013, 06:42:19 PM
I got a thread somewhere in the guns section trying to figure out why the Remington wouldn't shoot and how to cure the "free float" barrel. There are two contact pads a guy could buzz off with a dremmel, but the stock is so flimbsy......it needs the barrel for support :o
This gun needs a new stock and trued action and new barrel as I'm not impressed with the factory cut.
I also happen to have a new Tikka T3 lite in 30-06. It shoots well and the stock is much better than the remmy plastic stock. I will not mess with the tikka as it was ment to be a box stock gun. Slap a scope on it and go shoot.
I don't care if it gets marred up or some rust spots, it's a truck gun that happens to shoot pretty well - it's a work horse not a safe queen.
It's my first tikka, probably my last tikka. the rest will be customs.