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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: billythekidrock on October 23, 2008, 04:56:17 PM

Title: Which is better? Any opinions?
Post by: billythekidrock on October 23, 2008, 04:56:17 PM: I am looking for a predator/deer rifle for me to use in the short term (predators) and for my wife/son to use long term (deer). I am looking at a .243 as it is legal for both.

I was looking for thoughts and opinions on two different brands/models. I am looking for accuracy out to 200 yards, fairly lightweight and rugged.

Remmington 770
Savage 111XP3 combo
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Post by: Mike450r on October 23, 2008, 05:06:41 PM: I would have to say Savage easily a better choice than a budget Remington. Savages have been considered on the budget end as far as rifles go for awhile yet with good reliabiliy and some of the best out of the box accuracy out there. I have a few.
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Post by: ThePascoKid on October 23, 2008, 05:12:41 PM: +1
Savages are known for there low price, but good quality and out of the box accuracy. I love my Remington but if your talking the 770 instead of a 700 ADL or BDL I'd stay away from the Remington
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Post by: Gutpile on October 23, 2008, 05:21:27 PM: Savage. I'd stay way clear of the 770. All it is, is an upraded 710 which had several probs and was recalled a couple of times and now discontinued. My good friend has one that seems ok but the action is unbelieveably stiff.

I'd definately buy the Savage.
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Post by: huntnphool on October 23, 2008, 05:22:51 PM: I love the Savage rifles, I have my largest Montana buck thanks to someones brand new Savage breaking while taking a shot :chuckle: Honestly though, they really are supposed to build a nice gun, I think I would go with the 700 myself though, and it doesn't have anything to do with my buck either. :twocents:
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Post by: Antlershed on October 23, 2008, 05:22:55 PM: I've never shot either, but have handled them both. The 770 feels cheap and stiff. The Savage feels very smooth.
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Post by: jdb on October 23, 2008, 05:25:51 PM: about 5 years ago I went through this same thing, after much deliberation I bought a nef .243 and never looked back. man what a great decision that little rifle has accounted for many a deer in the last five years. JB
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Post by: Huntbear on October 23, 2008, 05:31:22 PM: I have owned (past tense) 2 Savage rifles. Both were junk. Maybe I just got bad rifles, but neither would shoot a better group than 2.5 inches. I would consider something else, like the 700 even in an ADL. :twocents:
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Post by: demontang on October 23, 2008, 06:09:34 PM: Look at Howa's and tikka too. but out of the two you said I would go with the savage :twocents:
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Post by: actionshooter on October 23, 2008, 07:21:27 PM: Savage for sure, pass on the 770
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Post by: Bofire on October 23, 2008, 07:37:04 PM: I think the way the economy is right now, I would shop for a second hand gun. Top quality low price, I bet there are loads of rem 700 243 out there.
Carl
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Post by: jackelope on October 23, 2008, 08:12:02 PM: savage.

i think the 111 is a long action though, no? i might be wrong.
i have a model 10 243, shoots great.
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Post by: Ray on October 23, 2008, 08:13:19 PM: I picked up a savage earlier in the year. Other than the cushion on the back of the stock feeling like a marshmallow I think it seemed like a good rifle. Never shot one before. Mostly a remington fellow myself. But I like the 700 model.
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Post by: 257 Wby Mag on October 23, 2008, 08:32:58 PM: Roll with the savage Billy, a few more bucks you could get a 700 SPS youth?? Later
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Post by: cascademountainhunter on October 23, 2008, 08:41:51 PM: or you could get a remington 700 mountain rifle...
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Post by: coonhound on October 23, 2008, 09:19:10 PM: another vote for the Savage...as I always do with any rifle, check the barrel channel and ensure it's free floated and invest in a $20.00 bedding kit and bed the action, you'll be amazed at the improvement in your group sizes.

Coon
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Post by: ICEMAN on October 24, 2008, 06:37:44 AM: Willie, I have a new savage model 10, in 243 with accutrigger that I bought for the exact same purpose. You can borrow and try out if you want...love the Savage.
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Post by: Coasthunterjay on October 24, 2008, 08:03:37 AM: my little bro has a 770 and ever since we hae had it it ihas been at remingon getting fixed....im hoping to get agood fixed product soon.......
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Post by: Sagedawg on October 24, 2008, 08:07:55 AM: As much as I like my remmy's Id stay away from the 770. They cut alot of corners on that design to compete with other makers enconmy models. The Savage has a great deal or options that are already included with the rifle. Owner adjustable trigger, pillar bedded, free floated etc. I would also agree with the reccomendation on the Howa, and add that the Stevens offer all that the Savage do except the Accutrigger. Hope this helps you out.

Sage
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Post by: thinkingman on October 24, 2008, 10:04:29 AM: Tikka or Savage in 243....I was shopping both earlier this year...I will buy one eventually.
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Post by: deaddog on October 24, 2008, 10:38:49 AM: Quote from: Sagedawg on October 24, 2008, 08:07:55 AM
As much as I like my remmy's Id stay away from the 770. They cut alot of corners on that design to compete with other makers enconmy models. The Savage has a great deal or options that are already included with the rifle. Owner adjustable trigger, pillar bedded, free floated etc. I would also agree with the reccomendation on the Howa, and add that the Stevens offer all that the Savage do except the Accutrigger. Hope this helps you out.

Sage
As much as i like rem,s that 770 is,nt worth the price. I would go with the savage too. or look for a used 700 .
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Post by: jdb on October 24, 2008, 02:33:24 PM: Quote from: demontang on October 23, 2008, 06:09:34 PM
Look at Howa's and tikka too. but out of the two you said I would go with the savage :twocents:
he is right those howa's are an excellent value. JB
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Post by: snagglepants on October 24, 2008, 03:21:05 PM: I really hate the feel of the action of the Remington 770s, they feel like a toy. Between those two choices, I would definalty go for the savage. Although if I was looking for a lower-priced rifle, I would look at the Weatherby Vanguard. I love mine...I think they are right about 400 right now.
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Post by: billythekidrock on October 24, 2008, 04:13:01 PM: Thanks for the input.

So now what is the difference between the Savage 110 and Savage 111 other then scope and stock?
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Post by: Intruder on October 27, 2008, 07:59:37 AM: Savage.

I really like Remington rifles overall but I think they screwed the pooch w/ the 710 and 770.
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Post by: PA BEN on October 27, 2008, 08:13:26 AM: I'd go with a 7mm-o8, very fast, you can shoot lite gr. bullets and up to bear and elk size game bullets.
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Post by: addicted on October 27, 2008, 08:34:35 AM: Quote from: PA BEN on October 27, 2008, 08:13:26 AM
I'd go with a 7mm-o8, very fast, you can shoot lite gr. bullets and up to bear and elk size game bullets.

savage 16fcss in 7mm08 or .243 . accutrigger and detach.box mag

or the best answer is probably get both of them lol :tup: