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Title: Insert glue
Post by: hntrspud on August 19, 2013, 09:39:58 AM
What brand would recommend to use for my inserts? There is such a variety, it can be a bit confusing.
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: mountainman on August 19, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
Black Goat Tuff
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 19, 2013, 10:08:08 AM
I've been using gorilla super glue not sure if its the best but it seems to work.
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: Old Dog on August 19, 2013, 11:19:32 AM
Insert glues are all basically the same.  They are super glue with an additive to keep from getting brittle.  There is a gorilla glue that has an additive that works the same way. 

The important thing is to prep the shaft properly.  Best adhesion is obtained by roughing up the inside of the shaft with a wire brush, and then cleaning the inside of the shaft with alcohol.  Put a line of glue on the insert, and then rotate the insert into place.  By rotating the insert you spread the glue evenly, and thinly. 

 
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: wrongway on August 19, 2013, 01:51:33 PM
are you using this for broadheads or target tips, I always use hot melt for all my bradheads, I can index the arrows better this way.
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: ELKBURGER on August 19, 2013, 02:35:12 PM
are you using this for broadheads or target tips, I always use hot melt for all my bradheads, I can index the arrows better this way.
:yeah:Works great
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: hntrspud on August 19, 2013, 02:39:11 PM
Hot melt? Is that hot glue gun glue? Special stuff, or can you get it anywhere.
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: Paxer on August 19, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
All though I think this TEST is not done properly I still think it gives SOME incite to what the manufacturers are putting out there.



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Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: ELKBURGER on August 19, 2013, 02:45:01 PM
Good old hot melt hobby glue.
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: hntrspud on August 19, 2013, 02:53:43 PM
very nice! thanks!
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: et1702 on August 19, 2013, 02:55:34 PM

JB Weld.  I use it and they never come out...ever!

ET
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: wrongway on August 19, 2013, 05:42:39 PM
I would imagine most your archery Pro Shops would have some. I always use easton arrows and you get some with every package inserts or tips
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Post by: MattySuto on August 21, 2013, 12:58:19 PM
i've even used Epoxy, aka double bubble..   we use it on our jets some times for quick fixes... inserts NEVER come out again....
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: bowjunkie on August 21, 2013, 01:26:03 PM
hot melt if you tune 3 blades so you can heat and adjust or gorilla glue if you use 4 blade it wont move
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 21, 2013, 02:25:14 PM
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Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: DoubleJ on August 21, 2013, 03:13:41 PM
loctite ultra control gel.  The black bottle only.  Best stuff I've ever used for fletching too.  $4/bottle and the gel stays right where I put it without running.
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: MtnMuley on August 21, 2013, 03:31:25 PM
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I can't see why anybody would want to sue anything else. :twocents:
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: hntrspud on August 21, 2013, 03:37:43 PM
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I can't see why anybody would want to sue anything else. :twocents:

Why would you want to sue goat tuff.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: mountainman on August 21, 2013, 03:45:40 PM
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Standard goat tuff is good...with the rubber additive, much better!
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: MtnMuley on August 21, 2013, 04:19:01 PM
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I can't see why anybody would want to sue anything else. :twocents:

Why would you want to sue goat tuff.   :chuckle:

 :chuckle:  USE
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: lostbackpacker on September 03, 2013, 05:19:25 PM
my go to archery guy got me using just standard glue gun sticks.  work great.  havent had a problem yet
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: MR5x5 on September 04, 2013, 08:39:47 AM
JB Weld. Never need to worry about broad heads pulling out inside the target.
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: 6haase6 on September 04, 2013, 08:47:45 AM
Red loctite works really good too!!!!!
Title: Re: Insert glue
Post by: ouchfoss on September 04, 2013, 11:54:57 PM
Insert glues are all basically the same.  They are super glue with an additive to keep from getting brittle.  There is a gorilla glue that has an additive that works the same way. 

The important thing is to prep the shaft properly.  Best adhesion is obtained by roughing up the inside of the shaft with a wire brush, and then cleaning the inside of the shaft with alcohol.  Put a line of glue on the insert, and then rotate the insert into place.  By rotating the insert you spread the glue evenly, and thinly.

 :yeah:
I do mine essentially the same (I just use plain super glue though) and I have yet to have a broadhead slip loose since I started doing it that way 5 years ago.
I was raised on the idea of using hot glue for inserts about 20 years ago and the reason being was that you could easily rotate your broad head for indexing or for really fine tuning the "squareness" in relation to the arrow shaft. Plus it was just really simple and fast to get your broadheads all finished in no time and you could reuse inserts if you needed to. Problem is, it is still not cemented in place and all it takes is one to slip off inside your target (this has happened several times to me over the years) then you have to cut up or destroy your target to fish out that one broadhead. Plus I just don't like the fact that the broad is not permanently glued to the shaft and that honestly could twist the broadhead off with your bare hands if your really wanted to.  Super glue type adhesions are the only way to go in my opinion.  :twocents:     
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