Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: onX Hunt on August 22, 2013, 07:33:30 AM
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We are excited to announce that Hunting GPS maps has just launched our new HUNT App for iPhone and iPad with land ownership data including public lands and private land owner names.
Luckily Washington is one of the states available for the App.
Other features include topo and aerial basemaps, hunting units, mark waypoints, and the ability to cache maps for offline use.
For more info and to download the free app visit our site below or the iTunes store link. State subscriptions are available through iTunes for $35 dollars or through our website for $30 dollars.
http://www.huntinggpsmaps.com/hunting-app-for-iphone-ipad#.UhYfAz-wUYQ (http://www.huntinggpsmaps.com/hunting-app-for-iphone-ipad#.UhYfAz-wUYQ)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hunt-app-public-private-land/id672902340?ls=1&mt=8 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hunt-app-public-private-land/id672902340?ls=1&mt=8)
We are currently working on the Android platform but don't have a launch date yet.
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So it's $30 or $35 a year depending on where you buy it?
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Yes that is correct, Apple takes a portion of sales through iTunes but we have developed a system for orders through our website at a cheaper price.
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No monthly price?
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At this time just yearly subscriptions. We do have a 7 free trial to test out the subscription features though.
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Just downloaded this app. It could have been a useful app but inability to zoom in on the maps makes this app useless. My other gps maps zoom to within 200 feet. This one is about a half mile. Useless for blood trails, trail cams, or any other waypoint. You could be 1/2 mile away from your waypoint but it looks as though you're right on top of it on the map. Sorry but don't buy this app. I want a refund. Had I known this I would never have purchased. According to this GPS app it could show you in one GMU but really you're in another if your anywhere close to the border. USELESS!!!!!!
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Just downloaded this app. It could have been a useful app but inability to zoom in on the maps makes this app useless. My other gps maps zoom to within 200 feet. This one is about a half mile. Useless for blood trails, trail cams, or any other waypoint. You could be 1/2 mile away from your waypoint but it looks as though you're right on top of it on the map. Sorry but don't buy this app. I want a refund. Had I known this I would never have purchased. According to this GPS app it could show you in one GMU but really you're in another if your anywhere close to the border. USELESS!!!!!!
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Its not worth the money just to see the landowners?
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Just downloaded this app. It could have been a useful app but inability to zoom in on the maps makes this app useless. My other gps maps zoom to within 200 feet. This one is about a half mile. Useless for blood trails, trail cams, or any other waypoint. You could be 1/2 mile away from your waypoint but it looks as though you're right on top of it on the map. Sorry but don't buy this app. I want a refund. Had I known this I would never have purchased. According to this GPS app it could show you in one GMU but really you're in another if your anywhere close to the border. USELESS!!!!!!
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I'm not experiencing this at all.
I'm zoomed in to 223.1' per the screenshot and its got me almost exactly where I'm sitting inside the building.
:dunno:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F13%2F08%2F31%2Fe8aje7a4.jpg&hash=1f065627183c7b345cc0440774216d0184093abd)
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P.S. This is working off of the free 7 day trial.
I haven't purchased the app yet, although I think I will.
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It only zooms in on the aerial imagery sat view. Will not on the TOPO Maps. Useless!!!!
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Grizzlyadams,
We have a 100% money back guarantee just give us a call for a refund. None of us here at the office or any other customer seems to be having these problems with zooming in. We appreciate the feedback but always hope that customers will contact us with any problems before giving up on a product and giving bad feedback. Usually the solution is very simple.
Cheers,
Matt
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Try the World Topo ESRI Basemap it seems to be the clearest when we zoom all the way in.
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Try the World Topo ESRI Basemap it seems to be the clearest when we zoom all the way in.
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I am anxious to see your version for Android when you get it.
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I am anxious to see your version for Android when you get it.
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We were hesitant on the Android version due to cost, time, etc. Just found a way to make it happen much faster this week. We are expecting about 4 weeks of development time now. That is our goal!
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Grizzlyadams,
We have a 100% money back guarantee just give us a call for a refund. None of us here at the office or any other customer seems to be having these problems with zooming in. We appreciate the feedback but always hope that customers will contact us with any problems before giving up on a product and giving bad feedback. Usually the solution is very simple.
Cheers,
Matt
Why would you say this? You know the zoom is a problem. There are other reviews online documenting the same thing. There is no detail in the maps being used as an example. I think you should take a look at some real GPS apps out there like "Gaia" now those are some topo maps with detail no matter how close you zoom in. Sorry man... Not trying to bash your product, but at least be honest with people. I have the app and I do like some aspects of it. Even though I requested a refund and you said yes, I'm going to hold on to it because it is promising and I've heard you're a good guy. However as far as detailed mapping goes, you guys have a long ways to go, but I know you'll get there. I will be using it this season as a backup to my better GPS app and to use for GMU and property boundaries. As far as the zoom goes, I'll just have to make sure I'm well inside the borders.
The kill is the satisfying, indeed essential, conclusion to a successful hunt. But, I take no pleasure in the act itself. One does not hunt in order to kill, but kills in order to have hunted. Then why do I hunt? I hunt for the same reason my well-fed cat hunts...because I must, because it is in the blood, because I am the decendent of a thousand generations of hunters. I hunt because I am a hunter.
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grizzlyadams,
Thanks for providing us some feedback. I spent some time digging up some answers to your questions. Hopefully this helps out you and the other readers to making a decision that works for them.
First our main focus in land ownership maps specifically public and private property boundaries and land owner names, we do this very well. Other features like topo, basemaps, trails, etc. we have to rely on other sources for these. Sometimes there may be a better provider for one of these but as far as land ownership maps that is our bread and butter.
Our app uses basemap data from multiple external data providers. These include government agencies as well as private parties. Depending on the source of the data, there may or may not be map data available for all possible zoom levels, particularly as the get zoomed further into the map/app. Also, not all basemaps are available for offline use due to licensing restrictions. As for our topo maps, here is a brief explanation of each, and screenshots of a sample of the data.
Here are some details on each topo map and when the topo lines turn off, you can continue to zoom in to see hunting units, property lines, and land owner names.
USGS Topo: Topo map with elevation contours in feet, hydrological features. Cachable for offline use. Can zoom in to about 1,500 feet.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi197.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa55%2Fmattseidel%2FUSGS_1500ft_zpsaf058143.png&hash=c8a14af02870fc493afe3e08fa541056c011e8d0) (http://s197.photobucket.com/user/mattseidel/media/USGS_1500ft_zpsaf058143.png.html)
Topo + Trails (NeoTreks): Topo map with elevation contours in feet and good trails coverage. Can zoom in to about 500 feet.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi197.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa55%2Fmattseidel%2FTopoTrails_1025ft_zpsfcb678e7.png&hash=10da8d3bbd3abc8b935349dd3d4e6995d0190e50) (http://s197.photobucket.com/user/mattseidel/media/TopoTrails_1025ft_zpsfcb678e7.png.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi197.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa55%2Fmattseidel%2FTopoTrails_555ft_zpseede004b.png&hash=d116fd6ebc0a7a938c598d17fc76cb09fddeb2c4) (http://s197.photobucket.com/user/mattseidel/media/TopoTrails_555ft_zpseede004b.png.html)
World Topo (ESRI): Topo map with contours in meters. Can zoom in to about 600 feet.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi197.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa55%2Fmattseidel%2FESRIWorldTopo_607ft_zpsa01df0d2.png&hash=d988b86803d872e5e8710d7d2cb8fbee5939ffe3) (http://s197.photobucket.com/user/mattseidel/media/ESRIWorldTopo_607ft_zpsa01df0d2.png.html)
We are looking for an additional topo basemap which is licensed for offline use, and can be zoomed closer to the ground, and considering our options at this time.
Now I do have to take exception to the comment that you will not be able to see your position relative to property lines and GMUs. In the examples below you can see clearly that I can zoom in to 43 feet which is the limit on my iPhone and I can still see the GMU boundaries, property lines, and land owner names, the basemaps no longer show up but our map still does. This makes it very easy to tell which hunting unit you are standing in or property you are on.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi197.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa55%2Fmattseidel%2FIMG_0014_zps7c50470b.png&hash=9ad4730c8cb1a918c1cea065a2f534cc5b430b7b) (http://s197.photobucket.com/user/mattseidel/media/IMG_0014_zps7c50470b.png.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi197.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa55%2Fmattseidel%2FIMG_0016_zpscb3bb4db.png&hash=cfcffe40da70629f3baa0553baa90735b18e6c4d) (http://s197.photobucket.com/user/mattseidel/media/IMG_0016_zpscb3bb4db.png.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi197.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa55%2Fmattseidel%2FIMG_0015_zpsfe66e2c8.png&hash=25ac60fff5f7b5bc7dcc30cd4d2fb94cc63616f3) (http://s197.photobucket.com/user/mattseidel/media/IMG_0015_zpsfe66e2c8.png.html)
We will be looking into ways to extend the zoom capability of Basemaps based on the the feedback we have gotten even if we have to make the Basemaps ourselves!
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I love the app but found when I do not have a data signal, I couldn't zoom in below about 4000ft. In the examples above it looks like you have a WiFi connection. How about with no connection?
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This is a terrific thread. Hunting GPS maps - great job explaining your topo map constraints. Most topos are not intended to be zoomed into very closely. There is a finite amount of detail that can shown with topo. I dont understand why anyone wants to zoom in really close to a topo map. :dunno:
So much more information can found in aerial imagery. I have found that using both topo at low scale to better understand the landscape and aerial to understand features on the ground works the best.
Hunting GPS maps- keep focusing on the land ownership overlays. Also do you know if the "feel free to hunt" lands are kept in shapefiles form? If so can you include them as layer if you havent already?
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I love the app but found when I do not have a data signal, I couldn't zoom in below about 4000ft. In the examples above it looks like you have a WiFi connection. How about with no connection?
That was my question: How does it work without a signal?
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First our main focus in land ownership maps specifically public and private property boundaries and land owner names, we do this very well.
Given that, I sure wish the company would step up and include land owner names EVERYWHERE they have data, as promised. In densely populated areas like King County they appear to pick and choose which properties to provide land owner names for.
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Pianoman, it works great for me, both topo and aerial. You just have to cache the areas you are planning to hunt before you go.
The only improvement I mentioned is that I would like to get a bit closer than 4000ft, using either topo or aerial when no I had no data connection. I see there was a recent update (received an email today asking to re-cache data) so maybe it will be better when I am in field mode.
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I want the SD/Micro Card. Will it work in my 1450 nuvii ? Do you have a discount code for HW members ?
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Ha, good luck getting your money back! I tried contacting them for two weeks. I was having issues with getting the app to work and there is no phone number for you to call to get help. You have to email your issue and it took a week and a half for me to get a reply. The reply did not even address the issue I was having. The app randomly started working all of a sudden and it does work great except for not having a map key that can tell you what the different colors mean for public land.
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Tagging this to stay informed. Waiting for the android app. Thanks for exposing yourself to the abuse that comes with product support. If I have any issues, I'll try to PM you 1st.
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Ha, good luck getting your money back! I tried contacting them for two weeks. I was having issues with getting the app to work and there is no phone number for you to call to get help. You have to email your issue and it took a week and a half for me to get a reply. The reply did not even address the issue I was having. The app randomly started working all of a sudden and it does work great except for not having a map key that can tell you what the different colors mean for public land.
I haven't had any issues on my iPhone or iPad, but I agree - no color key for the public lands is really annoying.
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I have had no issues at all with this app. Although I primarily bought it for land ownership. If you tap on all the areas of land that are different colors it tells you what kind of land(state or private) and who owns it. As for the zoom: if you cache your area that you are hunting and put it in field mode I can zoom in on aerial mode super close. Close enough to mark camp and glassing spots and water in the Idaho backcountry. I really like the different icons available to mark stuff.
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Ha, good luck getting your money back! I tried contacting them for two weeks. I was having issues with getting the app to work and there is no phone number for you to call to get help. You have to email your issue and it took a week and a half for me to get a reply. The reply did not even address the issue I was having. The app randomly started working all of a sudden and it does work great except for not having a map key that can tell you what the different colors mean for public land.
I haven't had any issues on my iPhone or iPad, but I agree - no color key for the public lands is really annoying.
I have my concerns with the app from time to time but you guys are losing me on the no color thing.
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The colored green area is public land.
:dunno:
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Hmmm, maybe it's location dependent. Here's two shots on my map that don't show anything but color, and I have the land ownership layer on.
If you know the area you can figure out what kind of public land it is, and on the west side of the state there aren't many different types.
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Do you have the private parcels and the govt land layers on?
What I want to know is what happened to the "Aerial imagery+Topo" option. Matt told me they pull topo off of a government source which was unavailable during the govt shutdown, and I understand that. The option came back for a short time when the gov went back online but its gone again now. I've got a pm into him and am waiting on a response.
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That's lake sammamish.
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Looks to be a UI constraints.
I happen to know a guy who builds and can help make apps better. :hello:
Wait until mine comes out.
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It's hunting season so I've been out chasing the ducks around. Packing up to head to ND for a week chasing ducks and geese but wanted to touch base real quick.
Thanks for the hint on the feel free to hunt lands I will see if we can get that data.
On the App we have removed the heavily subdivided lands on the App for areas like King County. With the amount of data and the houses being so close we figured those weren't very important for the HUNT App and would allow the App to work much faster without all of that data.
The SD card works on all of the Nuvi models. Please PM when ready to purchase and I will get you a deal.
We have two full time guys answering about 150 calls and 150 emails everyday. They might miss one or two people but we are proud of the hard work they and the company puts into Customer Service. If you ever have a problem you can reach me at 406-540-1600 x310 if I'm not out hunting!
We do not provide a legend for our maps. Those are for paper maps that aren't interactive. If you select any section of land it will tell you who owns the property so their is no need for a legend. Maybe a general reference legend would be useful to have as one of the tool tabs though? It is something I can bring up at our next meeting.
Android beta version should be out withing 2 weeks.
The USGS base layers were served up to us on a Government Server and with the Shutdown that went bye-bye. I believe they are back up now but we are looking for sources we can host ourselves to provide better base layers.
Cheers,
Matt
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I've been using their data chip in my Garmin rino for 4 years and it is awesome . It really helps identify landowners and is great for identifying state lands and corner crossing. I have walked right down unfenced property lines many times and walked right to a bureau stake to cross. I've had landowners marvel at my ability to pick my way through checkerboarded areas legally with one even asking me what I was using so he could buy one. I've also helped landowners fix incorrect signs with this product. I can't speak specifically to the phone ap as I haven't yet used it but the chip is great. This company also has great customer service, especially if you buy directly from them. I have purchased chips for 3 states from them and have also had them update my chips when new info became available. a+ company IMHO!
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On the App we have removed the heavily subdivided lands on the App for areas like King County. With the amount of data and the houses being so close we figured those weren't very important for the HUNT App and would allow the App to work much faster without all of that data.
Matt
Matt - there are 3 and 4 acre parcels in King County without landowner data. Sometimes knowing who owns a 4 acre parcel is significant when attempting to gain access.
Isn't that the purpose of the program?
If you're unable to provide software that has adequate performance with all landowner data, then perhaps you need to offer the data in smaller chunks like counties so a user can turn on or off certain portions of the state.
This really is not a very acceptable solution, in my opinion.
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Still waiting for the android version! Maybe next year I can put this into good use! :tup:
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With our new servers up and running I had a meeting with the powers that be today. They have agreed to put the city parcel data back in for the entire state now that our servers can handle it. You should have full access as soon as the change happens on our server. Thanks for your feedback we are listening!
Cheers,
Matt
On the App we have removed the heavily subdivided lands on the App for areas like King County. With the amount of data and the houses being so close we figured those weren't very important for the HUNT App and would allow the App to work much faster without all of that data.
Matt
Matt - there are 3 and 4 acre parcels in King County without landowner data. Sometimes knowing who owns a 4 acre parcel is significant when attempting to gain access.
Isn't that the purpose of the program?
If you're unable to provide software that has adequate performance with all landowner data, then perhaps you need to offer the data in smaller chunks like counties so a user can turn on or off certain portions of the state.
This really is not a very acceptable solution, in my opinion.
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Tag... wanna stay informed as I've got this downloaded on my iPhone.
I agree aaronoto regarding no color key. I often wonder what the pink, green, light green, yellow, etc... colors stand for and wish it would give me a simple place to find out what I'm looking at.
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With our new servers up and running I had a meeting with the powers that be today. They have agreed to put the city parcel data back in for the entire state now that our servers can handle it. You should have full access as soon as the change happens on our server. Thanks for your feedback we are listening!
Cheers,
Matt
On the App we have removed the heavily subdivided lands on the App for areas like King County. With the amount of data and the houses being so close we figured those weren't very important for the HUNT App and would allow the App to work much faster without all of that data.
Matt
Matt - there are 3 and 4 acre parcels in King County without landowner data. Sometimes knowing who owns a 4 acre parcel is significant when attempting to gain access.
Isn't that the purpose of the program?
If you're unable to provide software that has adequate performance with all landowner data, then perhaps you need to offer the data in smaller chunks like counties so a user can turn on or off certain portions of the state.
This really is not a very acceptable solution, in my opinion.
THANK YOU. That is the only "complaint" I have ever had about an awesome product.
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Tagging this to stay informed. Waiting for the android app. Thanks for exposing yourself to the abuse that comes with product support. If I have any issues, I'll try to PM you 1st.
:tup: me too with the same good attitude.
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tagging along as well. I will be happy to test the android app.
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Topo and aerial maps are back. Thanks Matt!
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Android should be out within a week. It will be a Beta version and may have some bugs at first but as with the iPhone App we will continue to work to fix them. After all we want to be able to use it for our hunts as well!!
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It sure seems like you guys do your best to take care of your customers. You can count on my business for the landowner maps SD card.
Any chance of a discount for HuntWA members on the yearly updates? Thanks,
PMan
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There are lots of hunting apps available o internet and store in our smartphones. You just need to make an account on the store and you can easily downloads apps from store. i m also using hunting apps that are awesome.
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There are lots of hunting apps available o internet and store in our smartphones. You just need to make an account on the store and you can easily downloads apps from store. i m also using hunting apps that are awesome.
Mindsharing which ones
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No that hunting season is approaching, has anyone tested the Android app that would like to do a quick review?
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Whacker1, I can't help with Android, but let me tell you that the iPhone app is excellent---although I have a Garmin GPS, I also carry the iPhone (with the OnXMap app), and use the iPhone even more than I use the Garmin. (I don't trust electronic devices, because of batteries, so I am happy to carry two). I am really pleased with this application.
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The Iphone app rocks and cacheing maps is easy in the layers menu.
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I just got mine for my Android. I haven't hunted with it but used it for caching some maps so far and used it for work.
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tag :tup:
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I just got mine for my Android. I haven't hunted with it but used it for caching some maps so far and used it for work.
Keep us posted. I am very interested to see what everyone has to say about it. I was going to download it for Android and decided to wait as I am updating phones in the next 6 weeks, and didn't feel like downloading the app twice.
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Tag
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3 tags and your out
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Thanks Matt!
I'm tagging as well.
Just got my first phone (Android) and hope to try caching the maps for using satellite images with the GPS.
This is all new to me so I may need to ask for help.
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