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Title: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on August 30, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
I have been working on a design of a dummy trail cam that will spray any would be thief's with uv dye laced pepper spray.  Would this be something would buy to protect your cams?
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: vandeman17 on August 30, 2013, 03:18:35 PM
how would a person utilize it? Would you hang it next to your working one? I don't think I would pack it in and hang it just to try and catch someone trying to steal my camera...  :dunno:
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on August 30, 2013, 03:20:49 PM
I was thinking put it in plain sight and hide the other one either pointing at it or down the trail you should se a guy screaming with green dye all over him lol :chuckle:
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on August 30, 2013, 03:21:41 PM
might be able to make something to attach to other cams too hmmm??
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: vandeman17 on August 30, 2013, 03:31:20 PM
I was thinking put it in plain sight and hide the other one either pointing at it or down the trail you should se a guy screaming with green dye all over him lol :chuckle:

Yep but unless you have had one stolen then I don't see needing one because I wouldn't want to waste a camera that works pointing at a dummy camera ya know? Don't get me wrong, I like your idea because I despise people who steal cameras so there has to be something. Maybe come up with something that you can put by the camera that unless it is disengaged, will spray when the camera box is opened or something...
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: vandeman17 on August 30, 2013, 03:36:58 PM
I also like the electrified box for the camera but I would just worry that some little critter would crawl on it or a bird would sit on it and then you would fry them  :yike:
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Smossy on August 30, 2013, 04:19:16 PM
I also like the electrified box for the camera but I would just worry that some little critter would crawl on it or a bird would sit on it and then you would fry them  :yike:
Lol that just made my day.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: bmccalister on August 30, 2013, 04:26:41 PM
My concern would be an animal (bear) accidentally activating the peeper spray and ruining your chances of seeing other animals in the same area.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Hunterman on August 30, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
My concern would be an animal (bear) accidentally activating the peeper spray and ruining your chances of seeing other animals in the same area.

Well then all you have to do is look for the animal that is already seasoned.  :tup:  Win/win for all..

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: bmccalister on August 30, 2013, 04:43:26 PM
Didn't think of that  :chuckle:

My concern would be an animal (bear) accidentally activating the peeper spray and ruining your chances of seeing other animals in the same area.

Well then all you have to do is look for the animal that is already seasoned.  :tup:  Win/win for all..

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: hoyt2002 on August 30, 2013, 11:02:15 PM
sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen to me.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Smossy on August 30, 2013, 11:09:31 PM
Maybe not a dummy trail cam but an actual fully functioning cam with a small single use replaceable can that is good for one good blast. If the display is opened without being de-activated by a special switch. They could expect a blast right to the face. I could see it working and being perfectly legal. If its not your property to be touching/opening then your perfectly just to get blasted.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: fastdam on August 31, 2013, 07:21:24 AM
You could be sued and they may own more than your camera when its all over. It also sounds illegal to me .
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Atroxus on August 31, 2013, 10:10:38 AM
I could be wrong, but I believe someone in another thread posted an RCW that states it is illegal to to leave booby traps for thieves and/or trespassers. I can't remember the exact wording, or RCW, but you should look into it. Would hate to see you end up in trouble over it.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: hoyt2002 on August 31, 2013, 10:14:06 AM
booby trapps are very illegal.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Knocker of rocks on August 31, 2013, 10:16:08 AM
It is not illegal to open and or inspect a game camera that is not your own, that is set up on private property.  But it is illegal to maim somebody
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 31, 2013, 10:27:12 AM
Sounds like a bad idea to me.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: MrsTurkeyFeather on August 31, 2013, 10:37:13 AM
Sounds like a bad idea to me.
:yeah:
Sounds like you could wind up with more trouble than what a $75-$200 camera is worth....yeah loosing a camera would suck but I think Id rather cut my loss than delve into what could be a expensive legal mess  :twocents:
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Jingles on August 31, 2013, 02:38:33 PM
Having lost one recently and having the police and FS enforcement both telling me that without  picture of the individual actually taking the camera there is nothing they will do.
 So not only yes  but He77 yes I'd get one and I'd put it right where the other one was stole from and when it went off hope the bas*** falls the 20 feet to the ground and impales himself on a sharpened stick.
Because you know the Dirt bag thinks if he got away with it one time he can get away with it a second time So Yes I'd set a booby trap.
I think what would be great is a pressure release triggered Flash Bang accompanied with an exploding dye pack so when the pressure of the camera against the Tree is relieved it goes off or when the the case is opened that way you could have a device to maintain the pressure inside the camera so when it is off the tree and the case opened if you did not maintain the pressure KABANG
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Bob33 on August 31, 2013, 02:43:15 PM
I would not do it. Unfortunately you may well end up the bigger loser from legal consequences.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 31, 2013, 06:28:07 PM
The liability would keep me from using such a thing, but it is kind of funny to think about some thief getting what's coming to them.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: lagnar on August 31, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
you can't be serious!  Please be prepared to lose any and everything you own, please talk to a lawyer before you waste more time and energy on this thought.  If I rig my car to shock people that may try to break in, or have a sling to shoot poison needles at intruders in my tent....
please use that inventive mind for something more productive....   I doubt people that are stealing trail cams are going to be deterred from taking them just cause they might get sprayed??
(not trying to be a jerk, just want you to come up with something that can put you on shark tank instead of "in the tank.")
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Jingles on September 02, 2013, 09:42:09 PM
I have been working on a design of a dummy trail cam that will spray any would be thief's with uv dye laced pepper spray.  Would this be something would buy to protect your cams?

You have a PM
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Smossy on September 02, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
you can't be serious!  Please be prepared to lose any and everything you own, please talk to a lawyer before you waste more time and energy on this thought.  If I rig my car to shock people that may try to break in, or have a sling to shoot poison needles at intruders in my tent....
please use that inventive mind for something more productive....   I doubt people that are stealing trail cams are going to be deterred from taking them just cause they might get sprayed??
(not trying to be a jerk, just want you to come up with something that can put you on shark tank instead of "in the tank.")
You cant be serious yourself! Lose everything you own over some pepper spray? :chuckle:
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: turkeyfeather on September 02, 2013, 09:50:52 PM
you can't be serious!  Please be prepared to lose any and everything you own, please talk to a lawyer before you waste more time and energy on this thought.  If I rig my car to shock people that may try to break in, or have a sling to shoot poison needles at intruders in my tent....
please use that inventive mind for something more productive....   I doubt people that are stealing trail cams are going to be deterred from taking them just cause they might get sprayed??
(not trying to be a jerk, just want you to come up with something that can put you on shark tank instead of "in the tank.")
You cant be serious yourself! Lose everything you own over some pepper spray? :chuckle:
It's against the law and you likely will be sued if they can prove it was yours.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Widgeondeke on September 02, 2013, 09:58:49 PM
you can't be serious!  Please be prepared to lose any and everything you own, please talk to a lawyer before you waste more time and energy on this thought.  If I rig my car to shock people that may try to break in, or have a sling to shoot poison needles at intruders in my tent....
please use that inventive mind for something more productive....   I doubt people that are stealing trail cams are going to be deterred from taking them just cause they might get sprayed??
(not trying to be a jerk, just want you to come up with something that can put you on shark tank instead of "in the tank.")
You cant be serious yourself! Lose everything you own over some pepper spray? :chuckle:
It's against the law and you likely will be sued if they can prove it was yours.
I saw an unattended trail cam and thought it would be cool to see who retrieves it. I am not the owner nor do I know the owner.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Jingles on September 02, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
I want one with florescent dye that takes forever to wear off. So when the SOB is wearing his FS uniform it shines like a DIAMOND IN A BLACK GOATS AZZ
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: idahohuntr on September 02, 2013, 10:22:22 PM
It is not illegal to open and or inspect a game camera that is not your own, that is set up on private property.  But it is illegal to maim somebody

Wait a minute...if its on private property how is that not illegal (trespass)?? 
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: Knocker of rocks on September 03, 2013, 07:50:04 AM
It is not illegal to open and or inspect a game camera that is not your own, that is set up on private property.  But it is illegal to maim somebody

Wait a minute...if its on private property how is that not illegal (trespass)??

Because a felony trumps a misdemeanor
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: jackelope on September 03, 2013, 07:53:52 AM
I have been working on a design of a dummy trail cam that will spray any would be thief's with uv dye laced pepper spray.  Would this be something would buy to protect your cams?

You have a PM

You have an investor, PendOreille?
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: idahohuntr on September 03, 2013, 08:05:02 AM
It is not illegal to open and or inspect a game camera that is not your own, that is set up on private property.  But it is illegal to maim somebody

Wait a minute...if its on private property how is that not illegal (trespass)??

Because a felony trumps a misdemeanor

As I read your statement you said it IS NOT ILLEGAL to inspect a game camera on private property but it is illegal to maim somebody.  I understand that setting a trap that seriously injures someone would "trump" the trespass issue but that was not my point, which is that it is illegal to enter private property and check a trail cam or do anything for that matter without permission of the landowner.  You can't even retrieve a legally harvested deer that runs and dies on private property if the landowner doesn't allow you to!
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 03, 2013, 08:35:11 AM
Sounds like a lawsuit magnet to me. Not a good idea for liability reasons. Sorry but my  :twocents:.
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: follow maggie on September 03, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
Cool idea, but illegal. It shows premeditation in the eyes of the court.  The law frowns on booby traps
Title: Re: Dummy trail cam with uv dye pepper spray inside would you buy one?
Post by: luckyman on September 07, 2013, 03:41:07 PM
Maybe safer to focus on a stink bomb . If you could seal it tight enough so animals don't smell it and  then leaked stinky stuff on them, their clothes and in there car. At least you would get the last laugh. Driving around for six months in a truck that smell like sulfur or bad perfume.
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