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Title: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: Pete112288 on September 05, 2013, 12:18:38 PM
So I thought of something the other day that  I figured plenty of people have thought of before. For shattering targets like clays that you just want to set up and shoot. Less than $10 and you can easily make a ton and custom color and size. Buy a $3 or so bag of concrete mix, cheap can of spray paint and find as many things to use as forms as you want. Small as a bottle cap or big as a 5 gal bucket. Just mix the concrete, make a layer in it 1/2 - 1 inch thick, let dry, paint, set up and shoot. Does anyone see problems with this? All my buddies thought it was an amazing idea for the money, only wish we could find a way to make them fly well like clays. I imagine you could make a ton of them out of one bag of mix. Esp if you are making like 3 inch diameter targets. I know they may be brittle and could break in transport or taking out of the mold. I also thought of just doing the same thing with natural clay or even mud. I just think the mud would crack way too easily before you get a chance to shoot it. But it would be more nature friendly. I am not... (for the lack of a more politically correct term) a hardcore treehugger but I also hate seeing piles of shot up garbage and such just cause someone thinks it will look cool to shoot. Are most concrete mixes pretty natural? I also would like to set up realistic size targets compared to the vitals of a deer and of elk and put them in realistic shooting locations for practice for me and my stepson. What diameter would you think is best for these? 8-10 inches for deer and 15 inches or so for elk sound about right?
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: mrmoskillz on September 05, 2013, 12:29:24 PM
Ricochet?
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: jackelope on September 05, 2013, 12:29:43 PM
I'd rather litter the ground with broken up clay targets than broken up chunks of concrete. At least the clay will dissolve back into the ground at some point. Concrete targets will be there forever and would be heavy too. I'll stick with the clay targets, or really just paper unless I'm shooting on a private range or something like that.
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: CP on September 05, 2013, 12:31:58 PM
Why not just use a standard 110mm biodegradable clay, they retail for about .10 - .12 cents each?
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: Buckmark on September 05, 2013, 12:37:49 PM
If you want to make shattering targets that are biodegradable, cheap, easy and the kids can even make them, then make hard candy...super easy, cheap, make the sizes you want, can be colored, shatters, and disolves....
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: huntingcl on September 05, 2013, 12:39:44 PM
what about the deer/elk picture targets that have the vitals printed on them
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 05, 2013, 12:40:43 PM
If you want to make shattering targets that are biodegradable, cheap, easy and the kids can even make them, then make hard candy...super easy, cheap, make the sizes you want, can be colored, shatters, and disolves....



That is a great idea!!   :tup:
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: Pete112288 on September 05, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Now that may just be the ticket. The question is how much sugar does it take to make the candy? I didnt think ricochets would be an issue, I mean when I have dropped 1/2 to 1 inch thick peices of concrete off of foundation form boards, they shatter pretty easy. I could easily be wrong though, I dont know exactly how it would react with a bullet.
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: Pete112288 on September 05, 2013, 12:43:54 PM
what about the deer/elk picture targets that have the vitals printed on them

I was just hoping to have a more reactive target, I dont mind paper targets at all, my stepson and I have a thing for reactive targets, thats why I was hoping to find a cheap environmental way of doing it. We may have to stick with paper for the moment though it sounds like. If it wasnt using up my firewood, i would just cut inch thick slabs off the rounds and call it good.
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: Buckmark on September 05, 2013, 12:45:06 PM
Now that may just be the ticket. The question is how much sugar does it take to make the candy? I didnt think ricochets would be an issue, I mean when I have dropped 1/2 to 1 inch thick peices of concrete off of foundation form boards, they shatter pretty easy. I could easily be wrong though, I dont know exactly how it would react with a bullet.
Just omit the flavoring...
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/hard-candy/ (http://allrecipes.com/recipe/hard-candy/)
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: huntingcl on September 05, 2013, 12:47:22 PM
If you want to make shattering targets that are biodegradable, cheap, easy and the kids can even make them, then make hard candy...super easy, cheap, make the sizes you want, can be colored, shatters, and disolves....

Good idea, one or two rains and all trace is gone.
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: Curly on September 05, 2013, 12:49:24 PM
If you want to make shattering targets that are biodegradable, cheap, easy and the kids can even make them, then make hard candy...super easy, cheap, make the sizes you want, can be colored, shatters, and disolves....

Good idea, one or two rains and all trace is gone.

And bears might really like the targets........
 ;)

 :)
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: rsarkks on September 05, 2013, 01:59:45 PM
Baiting for bears? No, these are just my targets...
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: baker5150 on September 06, 2013, 07:41:48 AM
Balloons?  They can make a mess thou.
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: biggfish on September 06, 2013, 10:31:15 AM
Just find a biodegradable slip mix (liquid clay) it will become hard enough to hold its form without a kiln and should still have a nice shatter effect. Just don't let them get wet.
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: brush hunter on September 07, 2013, 09:43:16 AM
we save milk jugs and fill them with water and freeze them, a little food coloring gives them color. We take them up to shoot in a big cooler, than cut the plastic off before shooting. You can also just use water in the jug but glue the top on, soda bottles work too.
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: lokidog on September 07, 2013, 10:47:09 AM
On the concrete topic, use a mortar mix as there would be no rock in it, it will eventually disintegrate, might be a few years but eventually it will.  As far as forms, get a couple bags of sand, dampen it, smooth it and then make imprints of whatever you want your target to look like.
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: turkeyfeather on September 07, 2013, 10:56:14 AM
If your looking for a biodegradable, environmentally safe target concrete of any sort is not the answer. Not to mention an uptight ranger or gamie will likely cite you for littering.  :twocents:
Title: Re: I know I cant be the first with this idea, shattering targets...
Post by: madcow41 on September 22, 2013, 06:06:09 PM
So I thought of something the other day that  I figured plenty of people have thought of before. For shattering targets like clays that you just want to set up and shoot. Less than $10 and you can easily make a ton and custom color and size. Buy a $3 or so bag of concrete mix, cheap can of spray paint and find as many things to use as forms as you want. Small as a bottle cap or big as a 5 gal bucket. Just mix the concrete, make a layer in it 1/2 - 1 inch thick, let dry, paint, set up and shoot. Does anyone see problems with this? All my buddies thought it was an amazing idea for the money, only wish we could find a way to make them fly well like clays. I imagine you could make a ton of them out of one bag of mix. Esp if you are making like 3 inch diameter targets. I know they may be brittle and could break in transport or taking out of the mold. I also thought of just doing the same thing with natural clay or even mud. I just think the mud would crack way too easily before you get a chance to shoot it. But it would be more nature friendly. I am not... (for the lack of a more politically correct term) a hardcore treehugger but I also hate seeing piles of shot up garbage and such just cause someone thinks it will look cool to shoot. Are most concrete mixes pretty natural? I also would like to set up realistic size targets compared to the vitals of a deer and of elk and put them in realistic shooting locations for practice for me and my stepson. What diameter would you think is best for these? 8-10 inches for deer and 15 inches or so for elk sound about right?

Whos gonna clean all this up once your done shooting? or are you to say it will look like rocks and this be ok? Now if it where biodegradeable that would be cool
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