Post by: huntrights on September 17, 2013, 08:06:10 PM
Take Action and pass it on.
Thank you
You can use the “Take Action!” link in the message below or go to the Safari Club International (SCI) web site.
http://www.scifirstforhunters.org/advocacy/takeaction
It only will take about a minute of your time to make a huge difference.
H.R. 1526 - Restoring Healthy Forests for Healthy Communities Act (http://rules.house.gov/bill/113/hr-1526).
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“Restoring Healthy Forests for Healthy Communities Act Needs Your Support
Take Action! http://capwiz.com/safariclubinternational/issues/alert/?alertid=62933431
H.R. 1526, the Restoring Healthy Forests for Healthy Communities Act needs your support to ensure its passage. This week the U.S. House of Representatives is voting on final passage of this bill. Once enacted, this bill will help protect our national forests from the rampant wildfires and insect infestations that have resulted from the lack of forest management. Healthy forests are managed forests and by freeing the Forest Service from the constant threat of lawsuits from radical environmentalists they can better manage millions of acres of federal forests.
Additionally, this bill would reduce long-term government debt by replacing direct federal payments to counties with royalties from timber harvest on federal lands. It is vital that sportsmen across the country stand up for our rural heritage and support the Restoring Healthy Forests for Healthy Communities Act. Tell your congressman to vote for passage of H.R. 1526.”
Post by: huntrights on September 19, 2013, 10:51:38 AM
Don't let this fall off you radar; it's important.
Post by: scout/sniper on September 19, 2013, 10:58:17 AM
Post by: chrisb on September 19, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Post by: gunrinwa on September 23, 2013, 10:22:20 AM
Post by: snowpack on September 23, 2013, 11:22:31 AM
Post by: huntrights on September 23, 2013, 12:23:57 PM
Suzan Delbene (D-District 1): No
Rick Larsen (D-District 2): No
Jamie Herrera Beutler (R-District 3): Didn't vote, but co-sponsored the bill
Doc Hastings (R-District 4): Yes
Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-District 5): Yes
Derek Kilmer (D-District 6): No
Jim McDermott (D-District 7): No
David G. Reichert (R-District 8'): Yes
Adam Smith (D-District 9): No
Denny Heck (D-District 10): No
Democrats that take part in this forum should note that ALL Washington State U.S. Congressional Representatives that are Democrats voted NO on this very good bill. This is a good bill for ALL people. Do our Democratic representatives NOT want healthy and safe forests? The state of Washington appears to be politically broken with representation that does not represent the people, but operates only along party lines; this situation is not good for any of us. No matter what your party may be, please take note of whether or not your representatives represent you. If not, then please DO NOT VOTE FOR THEM! VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE!
Post by: huntrights on October 21, 2013, 12:17:26 PM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 22, 2013, 08:39:34 AM
No thanks.
Why don't we just support NEWFC or some of the groups that are trying to get the FS to cut more trees???
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on October 22, 2013, 08:56:19 AM
Why is this necessary? Did you read the bill? It looks as though all NFS lands currently designated as commercial forest land, and capable of producing 20 Cu Ft of forest product (wood) per year would be included... that means essentially all of the NFS lands in NE Washington.
No thanks.
Why don't we just support NEWFC or some of the groups that are trying to get the FS to cut more trees???
Looks like an attorneys response.......... (what is wrong with ALL NFS lands)
Post by: npaull on October 22, 2013, 09:29:16 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 22, 2013, 09:36:04 AM
IDK what you mean Elkaholic? Why should we make ALL the FS lands into a tree farm? How is that good?
Post by: npaull on October 22, 2013, 09:48:13 AM
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I think the downside is that we are turning a FOREST into a FACTORY... we can keep the same designation and cut more trees. Isn't that the point of the bill, to make the FS cut more trees?
I don't know... that's what I'm asking. I would be OK with continued/resumed logging in certain areas, but I certainly don't want to sell a bunch of old growth along our salmon streams to private companies to do with as they please... There's so much damn legalese in these bills it's almost impossible to figure out what they're actually doing by reading them (which I just attempted). It sucks that we're reduced to relying on different lobbying groups interpretations of all our bills. Can't we pass a bill that makes it obligatory for all congressional laws to be written in language that can be understood? I'm a college graduate for christ sake and it would probably take me the better part of a day to actually understand this damn thing.
Post by: bearpaw on October 22, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
Why is this necessary? Did you read the bill? It looks as though all NFS lands currently designated as commercial forest land, and capable of producing 20 Cu Ft of forest product (wood) per year would be included... that means essentially all of the NFS lands in NE Washington.
No thanks.
Why don't we just support NEWFC or some of the groups that are trying to get the FS to cut more trees???
Our forests would be far healthier with more logging and provide for healthier game herds, logging has been nearly stopped on national forest land. :twocents:
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 22, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
There are other ways to encourage the FS to do thier job
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
I agree with that. I just don't think this bill is the avenue to that end.I agree. There needs to be a regulatory balance. I hate the "All or Nothing" approach to everything.
There are other ways to encourage the FS to do thier job
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 22, 2013, 12:27:10 PM
Post by: huntrights on October 22, 2013, 10:25:40 PM
Why is this necessary? Did you read the bill? It looks as though all NFS lands currently designated as commercial forest land, and capable of producing 20 Cu Ft of forest product (wood) per year would be included... that means essentially all of the NFS lands in NE Washington.
No thanks.
Why don't we just support NEWFC or some of the groups that are trying to get the FS to cut more trees???
http://capwiz.com/safariclubinternational/issues/alert/?alertid=62933431
"H.R. 1526, the Restoring Healthy Forests for Healthy Communities Act needs your support to ensure its passage. This week the U.S. House of Representatives is voting on final passage of this bill. Once enacted, this bill will help protect our national forests from the rampant wildfires and insect infestations that have resulted from the lack of forest management. Healthy forests are managed forests and by freeing the Forest Service from the constant threat of lawsuits from radical environmentalists they can better manage millions of acres of federal forests.
Additionally, this bill would reduce long-term government debt by replacing direct federal payments to counties with royalties from timber harvest on federal lands. It is vital that sportsmen across the country stand up for our rural heritage and support the Restoring Healthy Forests for Healthy Communities Act. Tell your congressman to vote for passage of H.R. 1526."
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 23, 2013, 07:15:40 AM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on October 23, 2013, 07:30:32 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 23, 2013, 07:48:57 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on October 23, 2013, 08:22:16 AM
I think the downside is that we are turning a FOREST into a FACTORY... we can keep the same designation and cut more trees. Isn't that the point of the bill, to make the FS cut more trees?Sure would be better than constant courtfests!
IDK what you mean Elkaholic? Why should we make ALL the FS lands into a tree farm? How is that good?
Post by: buckfvr on October 23, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
If any of you have received a response back from your Congressperson that happens to be a Democrat, write them back and ask them to explain how they are representing us when the votes were clearly partisan. Remember, all Democratic Congresspersons from Washington voted against the bill; all Republicans voted for it. It appears they are following the commands of the Democratic caucus and NOT representing their constituents.
It can be said that both parties are doing this.............as in everything else they vote on, almost to the person, they vote along party lines. Term limits is neccessary in order for people to vote right and wrong versus voting with only job preservation in mind.
Dems in this state are alot safer than the repubs...........We the 2 or 4%, whatever we are, like it or not, have very little effect on state politics. :twocents:
Post by: hughjorgan on October 23, 2013, 08:38:19 AM
There are other ways to lead to more trees coming out of the forest.
What alternatives are there and what don't you like about the proposed legislation? Getting the lawyers out of the equation is a good thing. Putting people to work is good, money for education, responsibly managing a resource sustainably... All beneficial to rural areas that have been depressed by poor policies of the past.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 23, 2013, 10:36:10 AM
More trees can be cut, more jobs created, and more people can enjoy our forests. They don't have to become plantations.
Post by: npaull on October 23, 2013, 10:54:14 AM
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Healthy forests are managed forests
I don't think logging is across the board bad by any means (obviously we need wood, jobs are good, good for grazers like deer, etc), but the idea that forests NEED us to log them to be "healthy" is on its face completely and utterly ludicrous.