Post by: Cruzer on October 27, 2008, 07:02:38 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on October 27, 2008, 07:09:56 PM
Post by: agchawk on October 27, 2008, 07:19:58 PM
Pretty dang nice spread on him too!
Post by: fc2038 on October 27, 2008, 07:23:26 PM
Post by: klikboom on October 27, 2008, 07:51:37 PM
Post by: bowsandhose on October 27, 2008, 07:53:16 PM
Post by: Crunchy on October 27, 2008, 07:57:43 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 27, 2008, 10:40:54 PM
Post by: DeerHarvester on October 28, 2008, 02:26:06 AM
Post by: h2ofwl4 on October 28, 2008, 04:57:10 AM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on October 28, 2008, 05:15:24 AM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 28, 2008, 05:48:29 AM
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2008, 06:24:51 AM
Post by: Blacklab on October 28, 2008, 07:08:28 AM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on October 28, 2008, 09:28:30 AM
Post by: huntnphool on October 28, 2008, 09:41:52 AM
This is the type of buck I have been talking about. There are even bigger versions walking around that dont have any G1's and will never be harvested, left to spread that inferior gene. They need to come up with a kids hunt to target these genome deficient bucks before it gets too far out of hand. :twocents:
Post by: C-Money on October 28, 2008, 09:59:08 AM
Post by: Vek on October 28, 2008, 11:18:30 AM
Two eyeguards present, one of which looks like it's probably twice as long as his finger is wide. It'll go an inch.
For pete's sake, give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Post by: huntnphool on October 28, 2008, 11:28:52 AM
Unlike many on here, I ain't gonna second guess you, Cruzer. Nice deer. Big forkys are cool.
For pete's sake, give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Well I'm not second guessing, as I posted it looks like the right G1 will make it and I'm all for getting those large super forkies out of the gene pool. I couldn't have taken that shot myself is all I was saying, I'm glad he did though.
Post by: Ridgerunner on October 28, 2008, 11:31:36 AM
Post by: Cruzer on October 28, 2008, 11:36:19 AM
3 point min........? :dunno: Nice buck, but I would have struggled pulling the trigger with those small eye guards. Is one of them at least an inch?I took a long hard look at him with my powerful Binos and had my doubts about the LEFT side one but knew that that the Right one had to be an inch or more, turns out that the left tine is 1" exactly and the Right one is 1 1/2". Thanks for all the comments on the post.
Post by: Little Fish on October 28, 2008, 11:52:01 AM
Edit: Nice buck by the way.
Post by: firefighter4607 on October 28, 2008, 12:12:34 PM
Exactly why I do not like the 1" rule, no one can measure these things before the shot is taken, I think OR has the rule where if you can hang a ring from a tine its a point. That is much better way of defining it in my opinion. Makes it more clear and lessens the chance for some innocent guy to make a mistake.
:yeah:
Nice buck you have more balls than I do. I think that Fish and Feathers should say that it has to have 3 tines and I think they should throw out the eye guard rule. When you go to get the horns measured they dont count the eye guards as points so why should we?
Post by: DeKuma on October 28, 2008, 12:15:23 PM
I would have taken him too, had I seen the eye guards. He is a great looking Forkie I would be proud to take, and his body is damn big too!
Congratulations on a fine buck! You are ahead of some of us who are preparing recipes for tag soup.
Post by: Cruzer on October 28, 2008, 12:27:47 PM
Cruzer,Thanks so much, One thing I forgot to mention is that I do alot of Carpentry work and I measure all the time, I can tell what a 1" looks loke even from a distance but what really helped me here are the Fine Binoculars that I had that day, it was a clear day and I got a good long look at him before I pulled the trigger, needless to say, thankyou all the Bucky is Legal.
I would have taken him too, had I seen the eye guards. He is a great looking Forkie I would be proud to take, and his body is damn big too!
Congratulations on a fine buck! You are ahead of some of us who are preparing recipes for tag soup.
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2008, 12:33:53 PM
Post by: yelp on October 28, 2008, 12:52:20 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 28, 2008, 01:59:06 PM
I can tell what a 1" looks loke even from a distance
You might want to take your wife along next time, she might argue she has a better understanding of what an inch is :lol4: :sas: Sorry Cruzer, just flippin ya some chit, now you know you're part of the site ;)
Post by: DeerHarvester on October 28, 2008, 02:04:41 PM
Post by: DeerHarvester on October 28, 2008, 02:11:54 PM
I can tell what a 1" looks loke even from a distance
You might want to take your wife along next time, she might argue she has a better understanding of what an inch is :lol4: :sas: Sorry Cruzer, just flippin ya some chit, now you know you're part of the site ;)
:iamwithstupid: That is funny as hell, I don't care who you are that is funny right there.
CRUZER were just laughing with you.
Post by: Ballance1 on October 28, 2008, 03:00:05 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 28, 2008, 03:03:50 PM
Post by: DeKuma on October 28, 2008, 03:16:20 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on October 28, 2008, 04:04:02 PM
Nice first post. :dunno:ya good way to start out ;) :chuckle:
Post by: snipekillr on October 28, 2008, 04:10:11 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on October 28, 2008, 04:22:33 PM
You're telling me at 150 yrds you saw that brow tine was over an inch long? I bet you're the guy that shoots and asks questions later. You got lucky
And how could you at 150 yards say that it wasn't an inch long? 1 1/2" is a small eyeguard but if I had the time to glass I would've smoked that buck the same as him...
Michael
Post by: snipekillr on October 28, 2008, 04:25:21 PM
Post by: X-Force on October 28, 2008, 04:26:54 PM
Welcome Ballance1 it looks like your living up to the name :chuckle:
Post by: SilkWWU on October 28, 2008, 04:38:05 PM
Cruzer congrats.
PS: Did I really use to be that big of an ass when I first started posting. The answer:yes. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Little Fish on October 28, 2008, 04:57:55 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 28, 2008, 05:05:12 PM
PS: Did I really use to be that big of an ass when I first started posting. The answer:yes. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
LOL :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2008, 06:11:30 PM
Post by: DeKuma on October 28, 2008, 06:16:56 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2008, 06:25:30 PM
Post by: Swiftkid on October 28, 2008, 06:59:34 PM
My last day of hunting (last Friday) i took a old coworker out hunting we ran in to 3 very nice wide forked 2 Pt's that day ALL NO EYE GAURDS! He was anxious to shoot but i told him until i confirmed 3 no shootin, finally did confirm 3 on the last buck of the day we jumped in a scab patch next to some stubble it was smaller 3 pt with eye guards,good first buck and it would of been for him. He had acouple shots at it while it was takin off. Didn't even come close to hittin him :chuckle: but he had fun, plus the buck will be bigger next year!!!!Maybe CRUZERS 2pt would have been too.....
Congrats CRUZER nice 2pt...it'll put meat in the freezer
edit:i know at 150 yds though with only a head and neck shot...i'm letting this buck walk right into next season.
Post by: Slider on October 28, 2008, 07:21:07 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on October 29, 2008, 05:24:50 AM
Here is a pic of the exit wound.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F28%2F57075572_a11b4d859e_b.jpg&hash=a83106092bfe3c6665852c6b335d308a9dab8c15)
Post by: ebusa on October 29, 2008, 07:24:33 AM
However, I would consider that a two point and would have never taken that deer. I myself don't count eye guards when determining if it's a shooter.
Post by: backyard bucks on October 29, 2008, 07:50:18 AM
washington state considers it a shooter and in that case makes a great trophy for someone if they chose to take it.
congrats on your deer.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on October 29, 2008, 07:51:39 AM
Post by: Shedseeker on October 29, 2008, 08:04:12 AM
Post by: SilkWWU on October 29, 2008, 08:04:53 AM
Post by: Schmalzfam on October 29, 2008, 08:27:59 AM
Post by: M_ray on October 29, 2008, 09:03:17 AM
that's what I thought! :rolleyes:
Well I'm not going to criticize you cause I didn't get one yet this year I like to see those super forky's taken out too!
Nice buck Cruzer he sure is a fatty!!! :drool:
Post by: groundhog on October 29, 2008, 09:12:01 AM
If I had a choice between someone taking a small young three or four point or a large mature legal two point I would choose the two point every time. Just my two cents
Post by: C-Money on October 29, 2008, 09:34:17 AM
Post by: Shedseeker on October 29, 2008, 10:18:41 AM
For Christ sake is this MM now? thanks for the intros newbies you've made quite a splash and oh BTW lets see your bucks????? ...
that's what I thought! :rolleyes:
Well I'm not going to criticize you cause I didn't get one yet this year
CLASSIC. :chuckle:
Post by: MichaelJ on October 29, 2008, 12:24:00 PM
For Christ sake is this MM now? thanks for the intros newbies you've made quite a splash and oh BTW lets see your bucks????? ...
that's what I thought! :rolleyes:
Well I'm not going to criticize you cause I didn't get one yet this year I like to see those super forky's taken out too!
Nice buck Cruzer he sure is a fatty!!! :drool:
That was my thoughts exactly!
Congrats again I'm jealous of the buck!
Michael
Post by: Cruzer on October 29, 2008, 06:17:43 PM
You're telling me at 150 yrds you saw that brow tine was over an inch long? I bet you're the guy that shoots and asks questions later. You got luckyI've done a lot of hunting in my days my friend and I compete in 1,000yrds Benchrest through out the State and out, Believe me I wouldn't have taken the shot if I wasn't sure. Why don't you come up to eatonville for our 600yrds Benchrest competitions and I'll prove to you that at 150yrds set something thats 1 1/2" and put your money where your mouth, and see if I can't tell that it is over an 1". You would'nt have taken the shot but that's you, you don't shoot at targets like I do at different ranges, guess you also don't believe that I can shoot a 6-7" ten shoot groups at 1000yrds either right? Since your a betting guy come to one of our matches.
Post by: Cruzer on October 29, 2008, 06:19:33 PM
:chuckle:She said she would of packed her bags 24yrs ago :chuckle:Good one!I can tell what a 1" looks loke even from a distance
You might want to take your wife along next time, she might argue she has a better understanding of what an inch is :lol4: :sas: Sorry Cruzer, just flippin ya some chit, now you know you're part of the site ;)
Post by: Cruzer on October 29, 2008, 06:25:21 PM
I use the restroom every day, so I can definitly tell an inch! :'(Hope wife is happy :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Cruzer on October 29, 2008, 06:36:58 PM
I've looked over the posts and comments, and after seeing the picture it's definitely an inch...what i didn't like was the fact it seemed like maybe the buck only gave CRUZER one good look before he actually shot and the only thing he noticed was big tines? After that he says he started up the hill and came to a clearing where he said he only had a head and neck shot....and then he shot. I think what really happened was the buck looked at him real quick, he glassed him, saw he was a nice thick rack. Assumed he would have eye guards or maybe didn't even notice that he wasn't even a 3. The buck then started up the hill and the first available shot he took. I'm just glad this buck was a legal buck.Wrong! I took a very long look through my binos, I posted a quick story of the hunt, the buck had stopped and was starring down at where the doe ran for awhile, I had time to check him out twice real good, I even had time to get out of the quad go to the front an unzipped the protective bag around the rifle, loaded and then even with my Leopold on 9x I can see both tines, like I said one tine I was assuming close to an inch the other one was taller and I just knew it was over an inch. The bucky my friends is a legal 3x3 in Wa. State. :IBCOOL:
Congrats CRUZER nice 2pt...it'll put meat in the freezer
edit:i know at 150 yds though with only a head and neck shot...i'm letting this buck walk right into next season.
Post by: Cruzer on October 29, 2008, 06:38:54 PM
When you trust your optics, your rifle, and have lots of practice at the range, a 150yd neck shot is a piece of cake. The one I posted a picture of was taken at 128yds, as confirmed by range finder. I had plenty of time (glassed him for over 20min) to make the decision. He was bedded down behind some downfalls. The only clean shot I had was a neck shot. I have passed up shots on many nice 4pts due to the fact I did not have a clear shot, trees, etc.That's what I'm talking about, Nice Shot!! ;)
Here is a pic of the exit wound.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F28%2F57075572_a11b4d859e_b.jpg&hash=a83106092bfe3c6665852c6b335d308a9dab8c15)
Post by: Cruzer on October 29, 2008, 06:41:50 PM
NICE BUCKS and Congrats on a successful season. It's too bad your getting bombarded by the TWO POINT POLICE on here. You'll really have to worry when they all show up at your door with their Hunt-washington hats on and tape measures in hand. :chuckle:Heck! send them this way, I'll even give them some Jerky to taste :EAT: :police: ;)
Post by: kramman on October 29, 2008, 07:16:11 PM
Post by: Cruzer on October 29, 2008, 07:39:24 PM
hey cruzer you did exactly what every hunter needs to do identify your target make sure hes legal then make i nice kill shot.congrats on a nice deer and welcome to the site.kram and sonsThank you Kram, here are a few shots of friends on a 1000yrd Benchrest shootout up in Eatonville, I didn't shoot on this one I was running the match, take care and thank you all for the negatives and positives guess I'll take it all with a grain of Salt. ;)
Post by: jae on October 29, 2008, 08:30:48 PM
Post by: Cruzer on October 29, 2008, 08:36:51 PM
Congratulations on a great buch cruzer!Thank you, and Two more for the road :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on October 29, 2008, 08:40:10 PM
Post by: JBabcock on October 29, 2008, 09:13:37 PM
Joel
Post by: WAcoueshunter on October 29, 2008, 10:05:53 PM
I generally like the results of our 3 pt. min, but one negative is that it results in a lot of mature 2 points. Strikes me we covered this topic last winter when 300 was looking for his buck and there were several pics of monster forkies. Good to take some of them out when you can confirm the 1" eyeguard.
Post by: MichaelJ on October 29, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
Michael
Post by: firecrotch on October 29, 2008, 10:44:09 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on October 30, 2008, 05:49:50 AM
Post by: boneaddict on October 30, 2008, 06:05:02 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 30, 2008, 06:14:35 AM
Post by: Ballance1 on October 30, 2008, 10:17:04 AM
Post by: bow4elk on October 30, 2008, 10:28:39 AM
Exactly why I do not like the 1" rule, no one can measure these things before the shot is taken, I think OR has the rule where if you can hang a ring from a tine its a point. That is much better way of defining it in my opinion. Makes it more clear and lessens the chance for some innocent guy to make a mistake.
:yeah:
Nice buck you have more balls than I do. I think that Fish and Feathers should say that it has to have 3 tines and I think they should throw out the eye guard rule. When you go to get the horns measured they dont count the eye guards as points so why should we?
Yes, brow tines are measurable/scorable points if they meet two conditions under B&C and P&Y Measuring Rules:
1. it must be at least 1" long from its tip the center of it's baseline
2. At some location at least one inch down from the point tip, the length of the point (at that location) MUST exceed the width (at that location).
Looking at the second photo on the tailgate, that G1 (brow tine) on the right antler appears to meet the requirement. Too close for my taste, but if it came into question, that appears to be a point (by WDFW definition).
Post by: Mike450r on October 30, 2008, 10:36:27 AM
It's easy to get hot when you see a picture like that and have somebody brag that they called the shot at 150 yrds. Then later they edit the story to include, "I even had time to get out of the quad". To each there own when it comes to animals and hunting style. That's not my style and I would have not have shot that buck. I showed that picture to a couple guys I hunt with and none of them would have pulled the trigger on that buck, Especially with the game warden that patrols that area.
So I take it you have a problem with both the deer and the fact that he saw it while on the quad? Now I must ask if it was 3 point above the ears and you happened to see it while driving would you have got out and shot it or just passed it up as not "fair chase"?
I pass up deer at times looking for something bigger but I have filled my deer tag every year for the last 20+ years because I refuse to go go home empty handed, thats what my family eats. I have killed some nice deer and and some small deer and I am "hunting" as soon as I get in the woods. I am not going to pass up a deer just because I see it while driving. And as far as the eyeguard goes the measurement starts as soon as it starts off the mainbeam, from what I can see that could make that a 3" eyeguard even though it doesn't look like it. I know you can't tell that from distance but thats how it works.
In short, nice buck.
Post by: Ballance1 on October 30, 2008, 12:07:27 PM
Post by: boneaddict on October 30, 2008, 12:11:45 PM
Post by: mlgunkel on October 30, 2008, 12:32:56 PM
Post by: Mike450r on October 30, 2008, 12:40:28 PM
"3 inch eyeguard" Now you are stretching it a bit.
I know, I know. Just trying to point out the WDFW description for measuring a legal antler point. This is not a B&C or P&Y buck so using scoring measurements shouldn't even be brought up, just what makes it a legal 3 point.
Post by: deaddog on October 30, 2008, 02:29:46 PM
Post by: skunkmaster on October 30, 2008, 04:25:15 PM
By the way, I'm an inexperienced newbie and I'm a little confused. If I'm not mistaken, I need to make my presence on this site known by posting comments. I guess I just need to be careful about what I say, so as not to upset those who have been around longer!? :dunno:
Post by: deaddog on October 30, 2008, 04:32:54 PM
That's a nice deer, congratulations. Unlike a few other folks, I don't have the power to read your mind while you made that shot... and I trust what you've reported.It does not matter how long anyone has been here. bad manners are bad manners, lack of respect is lack of respect! Welcome to the site.
By the way, I'm an inexperienced newbie and I'm a little confused. If I'm not mistaken, I need to make my presence on this site known by posting comments. I guess I just need to be careful about what I say, so as not to upset those who have been around longer!? :dunno:
Post by: huntnphool on October 30, 2008, 04:38:40 PM
It does not matter how long anyone has been here. bad manners are bad manners, lack of respect is lack of respect! Welcome to the site.
:yeah: Well said, Welcome to the site :hello:
Post by: boneaddict on October 30, 2008, 04:52:39 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 30, 2008, 05:06:05 PM
I hadn't even seen Cruzers yet as they didn't upload.
Would you step up to the plate and get off the damn dial-up :chuckle:
Post by: Swiftkid on October 30, 2008, 06:38:21 PM
Congratulations Cruzer, good job & nice buck. Way to make it happen.
way to make it happen?! From the story he gave it was obviously all timing and luck...
Post by: boneaddict on October 30, 2008, 06:44:44 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 31, 2008, 12:00:39 AM
I am off dial up, be proud of me, I was at work, screwing off on the internet again. :rolleyes:
Well its about damn time, welcome to the new world :chuckle:
Post by: Cruzer on October 31, 2008, 12:43:33 PM
It's easy to get hot when you see a picture like that and have somebody brag that they called the shot at 150 yrds. Then later they edit the story to include, "I even had time to get out of the quad". To each there own when it comes to animals and hunting style. That's not my style and I would have not have shot that buck. I showed that picture to a couple guys I hunt with and none of them would have pulled the trigger on that buck, Especially with the game warden that patrols that area.You must of gotten home empty handed and need to vent a little, I understand, the game warden I showed the deer to gave me a High five, like I said Stakes & Jerky are on its way :EAT: :tup:
Post by: Swiftkid on November 01, 2008, 10:59:22 AM
It's easy to get hot when you see a picture like that and have somebody brag that they called the shot at 150 yrds. Then later they edit the story to include, "I even had time to get out of the quad". To each there own when it comes to animals and hunting style. That's not my style and I would have not have shot that buck. I showed that picture to a couple guys I hunt with and none of them would have pulled the trigger on that buck, Especially with the game warden that patrols that area.You must of gotten home empty handed and need to vent a little, I understand, the game warden I showed the deer to gave me a High five, like I said Stakes & Jerky are on its way :EAT: :tup:
i highly doubt any game warden gave u a high five for that buck, your just tired of getting crap on here, whcih i can understand! But don't say things that aren't true....game warden giving you a high five YEAH RIGHT!
Post by: Cruzer on November 01, 2008, 12:05:22 PM
i highly doubt any game warden gave u a high five for that buck, your just tired of getting crap on here, whcih i can understand! But don't say things that aren't true....game warden giving you a high five YEAH RIGHT!
Your exactly Right, threw in a little humor, :dunno: so loosen up kid. ;)
Post by: Swiftkid on November 01, 2008, 01:55:01 PM
i highly doubt any game warden gave u a high five for that buck, your just tired of getting crap on here, whcih i can understand! But don't say things that aren't true....game warden giving you a high five YEAH RIGHT!
Your exactly Right, threw in a little humor, :dunno: so loosen up kid. ;)
ha,i am relaxed, thats why i called your bluff...you should be happy your technically 3pt buck is gettin more views than most 4pts or 25" spread mulies!
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on November 01, 2008, 02:56:43 PM