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Title: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: trophyhunt on September 29, 2013, 04:13:42 PM
I have an electric smoker and heard lower temps are better? What is the best temp for smoking and how long? Thanks
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: haugenna on September 29, 2013, 04:16:31 PM
Must be the thing to do today.  I just smoked up a batch.

Check out this recipe I got off Ifish.  Its like candy.

http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?p=614775 (http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?p=614775)
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: 3nails on September 29, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
 I like a 90-100 degree smoke for 7-8 hrs. The last half hour I'll bump up the temp to 180 to kill any bacteria. Usually 2 pans of wood during the first half.
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 29, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
90-130, i usually run 120-130 nonstop for 8 hrs
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: trophyhunt on September 29, 2013, 04:49:22 PM
Just smoke for the first couple hours? Thanks
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: 3nails on September 29, 2013, 05:29:38 PM
 It will take my burner 2 hrs to burn up 1 load of chips. So a 4 hr smoke for me.
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: trophyhunt on September 29, 2013, 05:35:14 PM
Thanks guys, I'm used to smoking with higher temps which only take about 1.5 to 3 hours. I heard the lower temps are better, can't wait to find out!
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: brianmtsinc on September 29, 2013, 06:14:17 PM
You should text Brianb123.... He makes the best smoked salmon I have ever had!
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: trophyhunt on September 29, 2013, 06:19:45 PM
You should text Brianb123.... He makes the best smoked salmon I have ever had!
thanks cuz, I should have thought of that. After Alaska I have plenty of salmon, next smoke will b his recipe!
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: wildweeds on September 29, 2013, 06:27:05 PM
Yup same way I do it,120 for overnight,thin pieces around the edge and thick ones in the middle,I've got an outhouse sized box with 2  4 foot square racks,I hang the bellys by the collars.As the fish gets done I take it out,thin pieces. I use fresh cut green maple for smoke and remove all the bark with a draw knife, just chunk it over the burner and move it along the burner.
90-130, i usually run 120-130 nonstop for 8 hrs
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: danderson on September 29, 2013, 09:07:58 PM
I smoke Smoke salmon at 110 degrees, the secret to a good product is the brine, everyone has there favorite, mines a dry brine consisting of  brown sugar, salt and pepper, brine 48 hours.
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: jagermiester on September 29, 2013, 09:19:08 PM
120 with a water pan
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 30, 2013, 12:01:54 AM
If your smoking in 2-3 hours then your not smoking, your baking/cooking with a little smoke, and thats not the same. to each their own just an FYI.
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: Smossy on September 30, 2013, 12:52:49 AM
100* for 4+ hours
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: Thefisherman83 on September 30, 2013, 07:29:37 AM
I run my smoke at 80-100 degrees for 4-5 hours then up to 140 for another 4-5 hours. 
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: trophyhunt on September 30, 2013, 08:17:44 AM
I smoke Smoke salmon at 110 degrees, the secret to a good product is the brine, everyone has there favorite, mines a dry brine consisting of  brown sugar, salt and pepper, brine 48 hours.
i use the same brine as you, sounds like you prob also cook for about 8 hours. Thanks for all the advise!
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: Alchase on September 30, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
Here is some info on "Cold Smoking" that can be helpful:

"AFETY OF COLD SMOKED SALMON

By: Janice Brown, CSU Food Science Graduate Student - Fall 2008

smoked salmonApproximately 50% of farm reared Atlantic salmon reaches the consumer as a cold-smoked product. Many of us love the taste of smoked salmon and consider it a delicacy. However, not many of us have thought about the delicacy of the processing methods used to produce this product.

In the cold smoking process, fish are held at temperatures ranging from 20 to 30°C/68 to 90°F for less than 24 hours (AFDO, 1991). The "less than" inference can mean anywhere from less than 6 hours to less than 24 hours depending on the temperature of the smoker and the desired product. Under the Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point (HACCP) program, a critical control point is a point or process at which the organism of concern is eliminated, or a combination of preserving factors can guarantee that growth of the organism does not occur. To insure the safety of cold-smoked salmon, these critical control points have been identified:

    Receiving raw materials: salmon can be fresh caught or frozen. To reduce the risk of potential parasite contamination, frozen is recommended, along with correct procedures for thawing.
    Brining: a liquid brine solution must be used to produce a final salt content of between 3.5 to 5%. This critical step has specific procedures that must be followed, including the use of fresh brining solutions to avoid contamination of the fish with salt tolerant microorganisms like Listeria monocytogenes. An injection procedure or bath procedure for brining can be used.
    Draining: this step is critical due to potential cross-contamination if drying hooks or draining areas are not kept clean.
    Cold smoking: fish must be of uniform size and shape and arranged to allow for uniform smoke absorption, heat exposure, and dehydration. Smoke can be generated, or a liquid smoke used or a combination of both. Temperatures of smoking should not exceed 90°F (32°C) for more than 20 hours, not exceed 50°F (10°C) for more than 24 hours, or not exceed 120°F (49°C) for more than 6 hours.
    Cooling: cooling to 50°F (10°C) within 3 hours and to 37-38°F (3.0-3.3°C) within 12 hours.
    Packaging: either air packaged or vacuum packaged. Air packaging must contain 2.5% WPS (water phase salt content).
    Storage and shipping: temperatures of 37-38°F (3.0-3.3°C) must be adhered to as any deviation will compromise both the safety and quality of the smoked product.

Like other ready-to-eat meats, the organism of concern for cold smoked salmon is Listeria monocytogenes. Listeriosis is a severe but uncommon infection caused by Listeria monocytogenes and has been a nationally notifiable disease since 2000. Listeriosis is primarily foodborne and occurs most frequently among persons who are older, pregnant, or immunocompromised. The reduction of L. monocytogenes to the lowest possible levels must rely on prerequisite programs adhering strictly to Good Hygienic Practices (GHPs) and Good Manufacturing Practices (GMPs). Focus must be on education of staff, cleaning and sanitation, redesign of equipment, and proper flow and separation in the processing plant. The prevalence of L. monocytogenes can be dramatically reduced in a smoke house by strictly adhering to GMPs and targeting spots where the organism had been found to reside with appropriate cleaning and disinfection procedures. Special attention to brining, injection needles and slicing equipment must be a priority. Other methods of preservation that have been found to inhibit L. monocytogenes include the following: 1) Extended frozen storage; 2) Carbon dioxide; 3) Nitrite; 4) Lactate; 5) Sorbate; 6) Bacteriocins; 7) Background microflora; and 8) High Pressure Processing.

Cold smoked salmon is considered safe for healthy, non-immune compromised persons; however, as with other raw or semi-raw meat products, it is risky for pregnant women, the frail elderly and others with compromised immune systems due to disease or medical therapy. Many countries, including the U.S., recommend these groups avoid cold smoked fish. The shelf life of smoked salmon is very short, one to two weeks in the refrigerator and about one month in the freezer. Storage time is another critical factor in the proliferation of L. monocytogenes."


http://www.ext.colostate.edu/safefood/newsltr/v12n2s02.html (http://www.ext.colostate.edu/safefood/newsltr/v12n2s02.html)
Title: Re: What temp for smoking salmon?
Post by: danderson on September 30, 2013, 10:01:09 PM

I smoke Smoke salmon at 110 degrees, the secret to a good product is the brine, everyone has there favorite, mines a dry brine consisting of  brown sugar, salt and pepper, brine 48 hours.
]i use the same brine as you, sounds like you prob also cook for about 8 hours. Thanks for all the advise!

I built my smoker out of an old food cart, time varys depending on the amount of fish usually around 10- 12 hours
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