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Title: Who would like to see a shotgun season?
Post by: Fishaholic on September 30, 2013, 07:45:10 PM: I got to thinking and I want a shotgun season for big game. 15 day season with a late season would be cool.

What does everyone think?
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Post by: wadu1 on September 30, 2013, 07:46:59 PM: Not a bad idea for some GMUs, and add in .209 primed muzzys
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Post by: bobcat on September 30, 2013, 07:48:30 PM: There's no room for it. Only so many days in a month. You can hunt with a shotgun during modern firearm if you choose to do so. Good opportunities in firearm restriction areas where rifles are not allowed, but shotguns, archery, and muzzleloader is.
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Post by: jackelope on September 30, 2013, 07:49:01 PM: Its called firearms restricted areas.
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Post by: Hunterman on September 30, 2013, 07:53:27 PM: Use your shotgun during the regular season..

Hunterman(Tony)
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Post by: Mathews Heli m on September 30, 2013, 07:55:51 PM: What Bobcat said.
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Post by: hoyt2002 on September 30, 2013, 07:58:22 PM: Ya there is no room for a shotgun season.
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Post by: HornHoarder on September 30, 2013, 07:59:23 PM: Not interested in a dedicated shotgun season. I'd imagine other existing seasons would have to be shortened to make room. :bdid:
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Post by: cowboycraig on September 30, 2013, 08:37:29 PM: I was thinking a Medieval Catapult season. Let's face it, it would be bad-ass.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fc%2Fcb%2FReplica_catapult.jpg&hash=b02e012fad106cfb22439cd8e72da366278d9f7b)
Title: Re: Who would like to see a shotgun season?
Post by: Hangfire on September 30, 2013, 08:45:13 PM: Absolutely no need for a shotgun season. If you want to use your shot gun can use one in modern season or use your muzzle loader shot gun with a round ball in Muzzleloader season or general season. No need for a 209 muzzle loader season any where. Talked to land owners who are against a high powered rifle in their area and possibly get access when you use a shotgun. I have shot a white tail with a .69 patched roundball in my 12 gauge flint in the late season and did the job.
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Post by: Bigshooter on September 30, 2013, 08:49:44 PM: Quote from: Hunterman on September 30, 2013, 07:53:27 PM
Use your shotgun during the regular season..

Hunterman(Tony)
:yeah:
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Post by: dreamunelk on September 30, 2013, 08:50:17 PM: Just what we need another user group. NOT! :bdid:
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on September 30, 2013, 09:03:04 PM: Quote from: dreamunelk on September 30, 2013, 08:50:17 PM
Just what we need another user group. NOT! :bdid:

You are truly an expert at the not joke.

Not
Example of NOT Jokes - Bev Oda VS Borat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4k5NwDcucc#)
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Post by: splitshot on September 30, 2013, 09:09:40 PM: bobcat summed it up quite well. no need for one. I have shot 2 nice bucks on a refuge, modern rifles are not allowed. mike w
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Post by: stevemiller on September 30, 2013, 09:18:25 PM: I posted here,took it down(wasn't nice).Another try at it,we have enough rules,regs,restrictions ETC without throwing something else in the mix that would only cripple what we are fighting to keep allready.We have the seasons we have when we have them for a reason (according to the people that make the rules anyway)and if you throw in another season we would get cut back from this many days to hunt to almost half that which we get now.so in your poll there should be DO YOU THINK THIS IS WAY OUT THERE (being carefull not to offend anyone lol); :twocents: :sry: in advance.
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Post by: seth30 on September 30, 2013, 09:26:01 PM: Quote from: jackelope on September 30, 2013, 07:49:01 PM
Its called firearms restricted areas.
:yeah:
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Post by: FLIZZ on September 30, 2013, 10:04:09 PM: I live in a firearm restricted area so damn near everyday is shotgun season for me! Killed every buck with 20 gauge rifled slugs :tup:
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Post by: Fishaholic on September 30, 2013, 10:13:47 PM: Quote from: FLIZZ on September 30, 2013, 10:04:09 PM
I live in a firearm restricted area so damn near everyday is shotgun season for me! Killed every buck with 20 gauge rifled slugs :tup:

what gmu do you hunt? I have never seen it before in the book but I havent really read it other then the rules of the units I hunt.
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Post by: Bob33 on September 30, 2013, 10:18:17 PM: The last thing we need is another user group to get a slice of the pie.
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Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 30, 2013, 10:31:34 PM: Quote from: ddjj1991 on September 30, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: FLIZZ on September 30, 2013, 10:04:09 PM
I live in a firearm restricted area so damn near everyday is shotgun season for me! Killed every buck with 20 gauge rifled slugs :tup:

what gmu do you hunt? I have never seen it before in the book but I havent really read it other then the rules of the units I hunt.

Check out page 81 in the hunting regs, lists firearm restricted areas by county.
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Post by: Kowsrule30 on September 30, 2013, 11:59:11 PM: I've killed a couple deer in Kitsap with a shotgun... During regular season.. Firearm restricted areas are perfect for them already... They were both shot with 00 buck out of a modified choke...
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Post by: Crunch14 on October 01, 2013, 10:21:17 AM: Is pistol hunting allowed in "restristed" firearm areas... and... What are restricted areas?
Title: Re: Who would like to see a shotgun season?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 01, 2013, 10:25:05 AM: Quote from: cowboycraig on September 30, 2013, 08:37:29 PM
I was thinking a Medieval Catapult season. Let's face it, it would be bad-ass.

I'd like a truly primitive spear and boulder season.
Title: Re: Who would like to see a shotgun season?
Post by: lokidog on October 01, 2013, 10:30:03 AM: A modern rifled barrel shotgun is essentially no different than a rifle. Firearm Restricted areas are a joke, I'd rather have a 180 gr 30-30 round hit my house than a 250 gr @ 1800 fps (20ga sabot) or a 1 ounce 12 ga. slug. I can use a .454 Casull revolver but not a .22 rifle to hunt rabbits. Sorry for the side track.

There should be no special season for shotguns for reasons others have mentioned above.

Quote from: Crunch14 on October 01, 2013, 10:21:17 AM
Is pistol hunting allowed in "restristed" firearm areas... and... What are restricted areas?

It is pretty clearly written in the regs, check them out sometime.... Revolvers are allowed.
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Post by: Special T on October 01, 2013, 10:52:53 AM: Quote from: Crunch14 on October 01, 2013, 10:21:17 AM
Is pistol hunting allowed in "restristed" firearm areas... and... What are restricted areas?

Yes you can use a revolver with a barrel 4" or longer Must be a revolver, and at least 24 Cal. Its in the regs. I've hunted BT with a .357 before, and it wasn't too bad... its cool pistol hunting.

Does anyone know if the contender single shots in rifle cartridges apply to restricted areas?
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Post by: Ripper on October 01, 2013, 10:59:48 AM: I will be deer hunting with a shotgun again this year. I shot this guy last year. Taxidermist just called to say it will be done tomorrow. Cant wait to see it.
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Post by: snowpack on October 01, 2013, 11:28:35 AM: I wouldn't want a shotgun season....maybe if it was open to all tag holders just requiring shotguns, it could be something considering. But I would think it might be a bad idea due to all the wounded animals that might be lost--can you imagine all the guys that would be taking 60-80 yard shots on animals with 00 buck.
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Post by: hunter6191 on October 01, 2013, 11:41:01 AM: I have taken two deer on Whitney Island with shotgun. Neither deer took a step and went to the ground immediately. I used sabot slugs which really pack a punch. The key in my op-pinion with a shotgun is to hunt like an archer to get as close as possible. My rule of thumb is to not shoot more then 50 yards. I practiced up to 50 yards and successfully hit the kill range at 50yards with these slugs each time. Sabot slugs developed orig-ionally by the military have plastic sheath that spin the slug inside of a smooth bore gun. I can't see a problem hunting with a shotgun as long as common sense is used. Practice, use good ammo, and don't take risky shots that only wound animals.
Title: Re: Who would like to see a shotgun season?
Post by: snowpack on October 01, 2013, 11:51:11 AM: Quote from: Crunch14 on October 01, 2013, 10:21:17 AM
Is pistol hunting allowed in "restristed" firearm areas... and... What are restricted areas?
It depends on the restriction, a WDFW restriction allows revolvers. Counties can get even more restrictive, where a buddy lives only 'shotguns with shot' and archery are allowed.
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Post by: chrisb on October 01, 2013, 01:48:06 PM: We already have shotgun season, several actually, it's called bird hunting. ;)
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Post by: Broken Arrow on October 01, 2013, 01:50:37 PM: bad idea....
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Post by: deaner on October 01, 2013, 01:51:09 PM: yes, maybe we can have a specific shotgun season, then lets make a specific trad bow season, and a specific hand gun season, then we can legalize crossbows and make a specific crossbow season. that way all the seasons will be so short everybody will HAVE to buy a multi season tag just to get time to hunt.
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Post by: buckfvr on October 01, 2013, 01:55:08 PM: I think fixed income retirees should get free automatic multi season deer and elk. So there.
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Post by: singleshot12 on October 01, 2013, 02:04:05 PM: I think the whole west side should be ~~scatter~~(slug) gun only.. Due to all the thick vegetation most shots are within 30 yards anyways..unless you're glassing and hunting a 2 year old clear cut, which those are far and few these days.
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Post by: snowpack on October 01, 2013, 02:23:53 PM: Quote from: singleshot12 on October 01, 2013, 02:04:05 PM
I think the whole west side should be ~~scatter~~(slug) gun only.. Due to all the thick vegetation most shots are within 30 yards anyways..unless you're glassing and hunting a 2 year old clear cut, which those are far and few these days.
lot of high country on the wetside that is ideal LR rifle country.
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Post by: lokidog on October 01, 2013, 07:23:37 PM: Quote from: Special T on October 01, 2013, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: Crunch14 on October 01, 2013, 10:21:17 AM
Is pistol hunting allowed in "restristed" firearm areas... and... What are restricted areas?

Yes you can use a revolver with a barrel 4" or longer Must be a revolver, and at least 24 Cal. Its in the regs. I've hunted BT with a .357 before, and it wasn't too bad... its cool pistol hunting.

Does anyone know if the contender single shots in rifle cartridges apply to restricted areas?

Nope, can't use them.

Quote from: snowpack on October 01, 2013, 02:23:53 PM
Quote from: singleshot12 on October 01, 2013, 02:04:05 PM
I think the whole west side should be ~~scatter~~(slug) gun only.. Due to all the thick vegetation most shots are within 30 yards anyways..unless you're glassing and hunting a 2 year old clear cut, which those are far and few these days.
lot of high country on the wetside that is ideal LR rifle country.

Plenty of places that modern rifles are/would be safe and effective, even here in the islands....
Title: Re: Who would like to see a shotgun season?
Post by: Special T on October 02, 2013, 08:11:32 AM: Not that i doubt you Loki, But what do you have to back that up? The only reference in the regs i can see is" revolver like handguns" In the firearms restricted areas. pg 81 YET when discussing handgun hunting on page 76 it only states that 4 in of barrel and 24 cal center fire for big game except cougar. I would read that as Semi autos are legal in areas other than restricted firearm areas. I don't think it is clear from the regs how a single shot falls into this...
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Post by: Bob33 on October 02, 2013, 08:17:28 AM: Quote from: Special T on October 02, 2013, 08:11:32 AM
Not that i doubt you Loki, But what do you have to back that up? The only reference in the regs i can see is" revolver like handguns" In the firearms restricted areas. pg 81 YET when discussing handgun hunting on page 76 it only states that 4 in of barrel and 24 cal center fire for big game except cougar. I would read that as Semi autos are legal in areas other than restricted firearm areas. I don't think it is clear from the regs how a single shot falls into this...
His answer was specifically for use in "firearm restriction" areas which limit handguns to "revolver-type handguns. While that term is not specifically defined anywhere, I believe most enforcement officers or judges would consider a single shot handgun to not be "revolver-type".

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-248 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-248)
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Post by: Elkaholic daWg on October 02, 2013, 08:59:41 AM: Quote from: singleshot12 on October 01, 2013, 02:04:05 PM
I think the whole west side should be ~~scatter~~(slug) gun only.. Due to all the thick vegetation most shots are within 30 yards anyways..unless you're glassing and hunting a 2 year old clear cut, which those are far and few these days.

Lot's of clearcuts on private forest land