Post by: dreamingbig on October 29, 2008, 05:48:47 AM
I am considering the Katera XL (need to shoot it again). Anything else I should take a look at?
I generally like longer ATA (36" plus) and higher brace heights (7.25" or more) as I generally shoot better with a more forgiving bow.
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on October 29, 2008, 07:27:50 AM
Post by: NW-Eric on October 29, 2008, 07:49:05 AM
Post by: fc2038 on October 29, 2008, 11:05:56 AM
Post by: Machias on October 29, 2008, 11:25:41 AM
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Post by: dreamingbig on October 29, 2008, 11:53:26 AM
I have the trykon xl as well, I love it but in the last 3 years hoyt has made the bows, better, lighter, more forgiving and faster...... the katera xl is sweet but the alphmax 35 is sweeter and thats what I just ordered..... go shoot one and you will see.......
Thanks. I will make sure to shoot the alphamax before making a final decision. I would probably give the nod to the Katera right now because it is seasoned and has been out for awhile with no significant issues. I tend to shy away from the latest and greatest until it has proven itself even though I am sure there will be nothing wrong with it.
Post by: EastWaViking on October 29, 2008, 12:06:33 PM
new bow, it will be the new Bowtech Admiral. I checked one out at Sportsman's and the thing is incredible!
Post by: LongTatLaw on October 29, 2008, 12:12:22 PM
But Ill have to wait for august to shoot it! :bash:
Post by: archery288 on October 29, 2008, 03:23:37 PM
I know I have too, but not sure what I'm gona get either. I can tell you it will be a Mathews or hopefully a Bowtech.
We'll get you hooked up Charlie!
As for a new bow - I will be getting a couple, but not paying for them... :rolleyes: :chuckle:
BowTech Sentinel and Admiral for now, I can't part ways with my Guardian though so I'll keep it around...
Post by: loveipabeer on October 29, 2008, 03:51:42 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 29, 2008, 03:58:34 PM
I'm a little interested in those new PSE X-Force bows, they are available in my draw and smokin fast. Anybody here shoot one?i have 2 an 07 70 lber for hunting shoots a 500 grain arrow at 290 :P
and a 08 60 lber for target, set at 55 lbs shoots 300grain arrow at 330 8)
both are set at 29 inch draw. i am interested in trying the new ones, different cams and more let-off.
Post by: archery288 on October 30, 2008, 11:44:00 AM
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Post by: WonkyWapiti on October 30, 2008, 11:20:28 PM
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Post by: New England Native on November 04, 2008, 07:03:10 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on November 04, 2008, 07:07:40 PM
Post by: bullcanyon on November 04, 2008, 07:25:01 PM
Welcome aboard.
Post by: New England Native on November 04, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on November 06, 2008, 05:20:53 PM
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Post by: funkster on November 12, 2008, 08:18:34 AM
Post by: JBar on November 12, 2008, 03:18:08 PM
See post in Archery, but the shops will have there test bow on Monday supposed to go 340 and the other 360 fps.
JBar
Post by: Slider on November 12, 2008, 05:54:04 PM
Post by: JBar on November 12, 2008, 06:29:12 PM
Post by: coonhound on November 12, 2008, 07:24:37 PM
Coon
Post by: WonkyWapiti on November 12, 2008, 11:38:49 PM
Post by: mossyoak arrow slinger on November 21, 2008, 08:30:47 AM
Post by: rooselk on November 23, 2008, 09:14:32 AM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on November 23, 2008, 06:26:41 PM
Post by: bullcanyon on November 23, 2008, 08:26:11 PM
Post by: archery288 on November 23, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
I also love the guys that buy based on speed... from my tests with a hooter shooter fixed blades group best at 260-280fps anything past that and they are not that great...... so 300+ fps to me is worthless
+1 - Well said Hoyt! I couldn't agree more!
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on November 24, 2008, 04:16:11 AM
Post by: bullcanyon on November 24, 2008, 06:31:45 AM
I think we're after the same result. If I can't kill a chew can at 60yds every time. I'm not happy.
Post by: Gobble on November 24, 2008, 06:56:52 AM
Post by: wackmaster on November 24, 2008, 04:39:55 PM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on November 25, 2008, 01:45:38 AM
Post by: LongTatLaw on November 25, 2008, 03:00:18 AM
Ill take that as a sign he wants one of his own!
I gotta get the spot hog SDP for it now and a whisker biscut and lookout west side roseys
;)
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Post by: coyotemadness on November 25, 2008, 07:15:55 AM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on November 25, 2008, 07:21:04 AM
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on November 25, 2008, 01:15:35 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on November 26, 2008, 05:01:00 AM
Post by: coyotemadness on November 26, 2008, 06:06:56 AM
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Hey for you military guys... check out the military discounts from Bowtech..... I am sure all the other manufacturers have something similar too. If you are deployed you can get a guardian shipped to you for $500. Or if you are stateside they will give you 15% off MSRP.
You ain't kidding!
Through this program, you can purchase a Guardian bow in Realtree Hardwoods Green HDŽ with accessories for the discounted price of $500. Accessories include a Hostage capture arrow rest, 4 arrow quiver, braided sling, 3-pin fiber optic sight, peep sight, a 4-inch camo stabilizer and 4 arrows.
My wife won't want to hear this news! :chuckle:
Post by: Charlie on November 26, 2008, 09:38:50 PM
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Post by: Gobble Gobble on December 10, 2008, 12:26:39 PM
Post by: archery288 on December 10, 2008, 12:36:38 PM
I was in Eugene most all of last week for work and stopped by BowTechs pro shop before leaving on Friday. Lets just say if I get a new bow it will be a Admiral. :drool:
Ahh yes, a good place to be and a good choice!
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 10, 2008, 12:37:52 PM
Post by: Angus on December 10, 2008, 12:57:01 PM
Figured I would use it this year then buy a new Matthews for next year, well, I may just stick with what I have or get a new PSE, though its a bit heavier then my old Matthews, it shoots great, I honestly feel more confident with this bow then I did with my high $$$ Matthews.
I'll definitely kick some tires before I buy anything but I'm definitely impressed with the PSE.
Post by: Gobble Gobble on December 10, 2008, 12:58:00 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 10, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
Post by: runamuk on December 10, 2008, 01:01:28 PM
Post by: SpokaneSlayer on December 10, 2008, 01:12:37 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on December 10, 2008, 01:39:54 PM
still the alphamax for me, i also love the guys that buy based on speed... from my tests with a hooter shooter fixed blades group best at 260-280fps anything past that and they are not that great...... so 300+ fps to me is worthless
I always buy based on speed. My fixed blade broadheads are grouping at 90 and 100 yards coming off my bow at 300 fps.
In fact I have shot three blade fixed broadheads as fast as 352 fps out at 90 yards and grouped up just fine.
At any rate the new Monster XLR8 will most likley be my new bow this coming year. Wonder how fast it will propel my arrows?
Post by: Dr. Death on December 10, 2008, 02:55:05 PM
They have some new stuff out...http://www.martinarchery.com/firehawk.php
Post by: shootemup on December 10, 2008, 03:26:20 PM
still the alphamax for me, i also love the guys that buy based on speed... from my tests with a hooter shooter fixed blades group best at 260-280fps anything past that and they are not that great...... so 300+ fps to me is worthless
I always buy based on speed. My fixed blade broadheads are grouping at 90 and 100 yards coming off my bow at 300 fps.
In fact I have shot three blade fixed broadheads as fast as 352 fps out at 90 yards and grouped up just fine.
At any rate the new Monster XLR8 will most likley be my new bow this coming year. Wonder how fast it will propel my arrows?
what bow do you shoot right now and how heavy are your arrows and what poundage?
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on December 10, 2008, 04:35:42 PM
I have posted this before but I have had this setup over 100lbs draw weight screwing around in the shop. At that weight I shot the Goldtip at 360 fps and another arrow of unknown weight at 396 fps.
At any rate shooting the broadheads at these speeds has put to rest, at least for me anyway, the myth that fixed blade broadheads will not fly at extreme speeds. I know they will because I have tested it and accomplished it. That does not mean that anybody will be able to do it. You need near perfect form and the mind set that it can be done. :twocents:
I believe the last time I shot broadheads at 100 yards the impact point was just three or four inches lower than the field points and left to right was spot on.
Anyway these are all just my opinions and observations from things I have done. I hope that they don't steer anybody in the wrong direction. Each person should assess there own abilities and then stay within them.
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 10, 2008, 05:34:31 PM
Post by: JBar on December 10, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on December 10, 2008, 08:55:38 PM
the reflex line of bows are good for the price, basically they take a hoyt parts and mix/match more or less and make reflex... just not quite the same quality as a hoyt but damn close...... still hands down the alphamax for me.. plenty fast at 321 and a nice brace height.. and apparently from some experts on here brace height is the only dertermining factor in a bows performance or accuracy.. so therfore that alone it will be awesome, I have never liked the way any matthews looks/feels in my hand and 360fps at 80lbs with a 5 in brace height.. no thanks..
Brace height is definatley not the only determining factor. All I stated was that brace height has never been a factor for me. It may be for some.
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 10, 2008, 09:01:45 PM
Post by: SpokaneSlayer on December 10, 2008, 09:43:28 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 11, 2008, 08:23:20 AM
Post by: shootemup on December 11, 2008, 11:34:29 AM
Thanks for the info Hoyt. I realize that a true Hoyt is probably of better quality, but I can't afford one. I can pick up a brand new Growler for $350.
get a mission basically the same situation as reflex and hoyt... but who could honestly argue a hoyt against a mathews :)
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 11, 2008, 03:59:22 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 11, 2008, 04:30:24 PM
Post by: shootemup on December 11, 2008, 05:49:02 PM
no doubt about that
oh hoyt staff shooter... i had a trykon xl and yea it wasnt bad except the weight and how loud and the vibrations... in which the bow shop was never able to cure... but i just wanted to know why you dont shoot a better hoyt bow if you shoot for them why wouldnt you shoot the nicest bow they have like the katera over a trykon xl.... or a mathews
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 11, 2008, 05:58:56 PM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on December 11, 2008, 06:32:19 PM
Post by: shootemup on December 11, 2008, 06:54:07 PM
I have no idea why yours was loud... Mine is as quiet as can be, The last deer I shot my buddy was 20 yrds from me and never heard it go off, also its a hoyt.. id take that bow over any matthews, bear or any other.. I also have a Pro elite I shoot indoors, that was and is the most winning target bow ever. and will set you back $1200 just for the bow.. the new vantage elite is the top target bow now, but ill stick with my Pro Elite.. I also ordered the new alphamax 35 to replace my trykon xl for hunting/3d.. custom of course ;) and last I knew that is hoyts best new bow... also the trykon is accurate as nails, I shot my first vegas 300 round with it... its quiet, fast and no vibration at all, the STS system I put on both my hoyts was just insurance...... they did make a diff though but both were already super smooth without it....
im just givin you a hard time man id be loyal to a company too if i shot for them an i really couldnt tell you why mine was loud but its always fun to bicker about who thinks what is better and why but ive shot both and me personally i like my drenalin better... even better than mathews' new bows and it works for me like your hoyts work for you right .. its all just for fun .. just makin sure you knew i wasnt tryin to get under your skin
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 11, 2008, 08:53:36 PM
Post by: SpokaneSlayer on December 12, 2008, 12:14:48 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 12, 2008, 12:16:40 PM
Post by: mossback91 on December 12, 2008, 02:11:45 PM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on December 12, 2008, 09:19:36 PM
Post by: rover747 on December 16, 2008, 10:35:33 PM
Post by: Maybee-R on December 18, 2008, 11:40:28 AM
i am looking to buy new bow ,but problem is... i like them all :chuckle: Can't make my choice :( I like Mathews Drenalin ,but i like new Hoyt Alphamax 32 ,and even crazy i like Bowtech ,shoot few times and really like it .Now i narrow my search to Drenalin - Admiral -Alphamax 32 ...may be Drenalin LD .. :bash: My old bow is Mathews Zmax,none wrong with this ,but i just want to spoil my self :)I have been shooting Elite's GT500, if your looking for a new bow I highly suggest you take a look at them. there made in Walla Walla Washington too.
I will buy the next released from them. I really like the speed and solid back wall this bow has. Well enough with the ad like post just excited about my bow.
Post by: Gobble Gobble on December 18, 2008, 01:44:14 PM
Post by: Crunchy on December 18, 2008, 06:10:06 PM
Post by: Maybee-R on December 19, 2008, 10:57:50 AM
The Elite is by Martin and there customer service is second to non. I currently own a Martin and my next bow will be one as well.No, :bash: The Elite is by Elite archery. Also the best customer service around. ;)
Post by: Gobble Gobble on December 19, 2008, 01:32:19 PM
Post by: rover747 on December 19, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
Thank you
I hope my post don't start any brand war .Please don't !
Post by: Jason on December 19, 2008, 05:40:14 PM
I like Bowtech ,but they have too many problems ,at least what i found about them on internet .Too bad.WOW bowtech has problems? im a Bowtech owner and have had no problems with my 08 Allegiance or my 06 Rapture, what problems did you find on Bowtech's? besides the Limb problems the Generals had that bowtech fixed.
Thank you
I hope my post don't start any brand war .Please don't !
Post by: fc2038 on December 19, 2008, 06:57:27 PM
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 19, 2008, 07:26:17 PM
Now i am down to Hoyt Alphamax 32 - Mathwes Drenalin or DXT .Still tough choice . I need to find who has Hoyt and Drenalin ,so i can try shoot them ,before making my final choice.Shoot Bowtech ,DXT ,and some bow call limb saver .I like bowtech and dxt ..limb saver wasn't bad only littile heavy .So i guess i am taking my time to choose right bow for me ,and prices will go down too ;) I like Bowtech ,but they have too many problems ,at least what i found about them on internet .Too bad ,otherwise they will be my 1 choice .Please don't start any brand war ,this is just my opinion ,I am just try think loud . So if anybody who leave close around renton area ,have Hoyt Aplhamax 32 or drenalin ,and will let me try them for couple shoots ,it may completed my search .I got feeling soon i shoot Hoyt Alphamax 32 ,is may be my choice :)) Just feel this way ;)
Thank you
I hope my post don't start any brand war .Please don't !
I would agree on the bowtech statment, all my buddies that own them say the same thing, they make a good bow though, you can shoot my alphamax 35 anytime...
Post by: archery288 on December 19, 2008, 07:39:08 PM
Now i am down to Hoyt Alphamax 32 - Mathwes Drenalin or DXT .Still tough choice . I need to find who has Hoyt and Drenalin ,so i can try shoot them ,before making my final choice.Shoot Bowtech ,DXT ,and some bow call limb saver .I like bowtech and dxt ..limb saver wasn't bad only littile heavy .So i guess i am taking my time to choose right bow for me ,and prices will go down too ;) I like Bowtech ,but they have too many problems ,at least what i found about them on internet .Too bad ,otherwise they will be my 1 choice .Please don't start any brand war ,this is just my opinion ,I am just try think loud . So if anybody who leave close around renton area ,have Hoyt Aplhamax 32 or drenalin ,and will let me try them for couple shoots ,it may completed my search .I got feeling soon i shoot Hoyt Alphamax 32 ,is may be my choice :)) Just feel this way ;)
Thank you
I hope my post don't start any brand war .Please don't !
I would agree on the bowtech statment, all my buddies that own them say the same thing, they make a good bow though, you can shoot my alphamax 35 anytime...
Same thing about what?? I have never had a problem with any of my BowTech's - not one! But each individual has a different experience and opinion... I think I will continue to shoot them... :rolleyes: :chuckle:
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 19, 2008, 08:12:26 PM
Post by: archery288 on December 19, 2008, 08:54:11 PM
that is very true jon..... one day though cam will convince you to cross over the the "dark side"
:chuckle:
Post by: tmike on December 19, 2008, 09:11:05 PM
I won't tell him what brand i shot for over 20 years before you convinced me to cross over to the "light side". Actually if someone around here would of had one in my draw I could shoot I may not have switched. Don't believe everything you hear on the "internet". :o
Post by: rover747 on December 20, 2008, 08:00:42 AM
Post by: tmike on December 20, 2008, 08:15:09 AM
Post by: bullcanyon on December 20, 2008, 08:22:12 AM
Just for the record. The only bow I've seen blow up was a drenalin that was pressed wrong. Can't say they are a bad bow just because of that experience. I've read all that same crap as you on archerytalk, but you have to take that with a grain of salt. Lot's of posts on their are fabricated to beat down or boost up one bow or another.
Post by: rover747 on December 20, 2008, 06:29:46 PM
I don't think you'll have a problem with any bow as long as you press it right. I think most problems are with shop techs that couldn't change a flat tire trying to work on bows. Make sure it is done right and you won't have a problem.i agree with you on 100% :tup:
Just for the record. The only bow I've seen blow up was a drenalin that was pressed wrong. Can't say they are a bad bow just because of that experience. I've read all that same crap as you on archerytalk, but you have to take that with a grain of salt. Lot's of posts on their are fabricated to beat down or boost up one bow or another.
Post by: colockumelk on January 20, 2009, 09:55:49 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on January 21, 2009, 01:32:21 PM
Plan C is too upgrade my hoyt trykon with an STS and a new sight.
Post by: coonhound on January 21, 2009, 08:06:43 PM
It may take a few months for the wife to get over the $1300.00 for the setup...I used the "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission" approach. ;)
Coon
Post by: colockumelk on January 29, 2009, 10:41:33 AM
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Post by: JBar on January 30, 2009, 06:04:06 AM
JBar
Post by: WArookie on January 30, 2009, 09:56:37 PM
Have not decided which flavor yet.
Brett
Post by: rover747 on January 31, 2009, 10:25:55 AM
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 01, 2009, 10:45:41 PM
Haven't set up the Elite yet, so I can't say yet how it shoots. I know I have shot 3Ds alongside a couple of guys who have them, and a few times we had to take the target off the stand, lay it on the ground, have one guy stand on it, and 2 guys pulling to retrieve the arrow. THat's what sold me.
Post by: rover747 on February 02, 2009, 09:57:13 AM
Way to go Rover, I love my Alphamax 32. It was a little adjustment for me going from a 37 ata bow to the 32 ata of the Alphamax.Yep ,i love this bow :) Very happy i did bought it ;)
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