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Title: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: gunrinwa on October 09, 2013, 10:24:21 AM: Just wanted to let everyone know that there have been some recent vehicle breakins at the Pheasant release sites. My dad came back from hunting and a guys new Silverado had its window smashed out and stuff taken from his cab. Don't leave anything of value in your vehicle and lets all police these sites for suspicious people and cars that look like they don't belong. King County Sheriff is aware of the break in issue at Crescent Lake, Cherry Valley and Snoq. release sites as well as Carnation Park.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: seth30 on October 09, 2013, 10:26:52 AM: Wonder if its the same group hitting the release sites?
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: saltwaterhillbilly on October 09, 2013, 10:27:14 AM: Does that mean you can pepper someone's rear end if you catch them in the act?
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: JLS on October 09, 2013, 10:30:47 AM: Quote from: saltwaterhillbilly on October 09, 2013, 10:27:14 AM
Does that mean you can pepper someone's rear end if you catch them in the act?

Might not be the best idea....
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: Stilly bay on October 09, 2013, 10:41:50 AM: just make sure they are in your car when you shoot them.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: JLS on October 09, 2013, 10:43:37 AM: Quote from: Stilly bay on October 09, 2013, 10:41:50 AM
just make sure they are in your car when you shoot them.

Ask the guy in Spokane how that worked out for him.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: jackelope on October 09, 2013, 10:47:06 AM: There's been some break-ins happening in Duvall in general recently. Heard about a car that was broken into last night up the Cherry Valley Road.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: saltwaterhillbilly on October 09, 2013, 10:48:59 AM: Don't be offended but I'm sure it would make you want to if you caught them there's no way I would but goodness people ain't right anymore I don't get what drives someone to break into a vehicle I just had that happen last year in clearview and had bunch of my hunting gear stolen from my truck.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: seth30 on October 09, 2013, 10:53:14 AM: I was never a thief so my thought process is diffrent but I cant but help ponder. Why would you break into a hunters rig, the guy has a gun and is probably good at shooting???? I would hit up a PETA parking lot vice a release site :yike:
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: Bmcox86 on October 09, 2013, 12:22:14 PM: Thanks for the heads up. The glock will be going into my vest now I guess. Robbing hunters is pretty stupid in my eyes, especially ones with dogs and guns returning to the parking lot
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: et1702 on October 09, 2013, 12:35:18 PM: Quote from: jackelope on October 09, 2013, 10:47:06 AM
There's been some break-ins happening in Duvall in general recently. Heard about a car that was broken into last night up the Cherry Valley Road.

Hmmm...we usually leave doors unlocked and keys in iginition out where we are. Hate to see it happening.

ET
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: jackelope on October 09, 2013, 12:51:09 PM: Growing drug problems in the valley=more sketchy individuals=more break ins and thieves. Sad story but true. Carnation just voted to eliminate Duvall PD and will go back to just KC Sheriff coverage which won't help Carnation. Depending on who you ask, a lot will tell you carnation is where the problem lies. Huge problem at the middle school there specifically. On an up note...Duvall will have better PD coverage now.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: gunrinwa on October 09, 2013, 01:26:13 PM: My neighborhood had 3 burglaries last month around mid day. Apparently some *censored* nozzle in a shaddy white van, of course. I think if the economy deteriorates more this will be even more intensified. Just be safe out there and watch your Six.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: seth30 on October 09, 2013, 02:23:12 PM: I hear you on the shady vechile. Last night I was lead casting and a car full of people stopped in front of my driveway and sat for some time. They had no clue I was there since I was kneeling. After a few minutes I decided to intervine but they sped off when they saw me walking down the driveway. I am pretty sure they were casing my open garage or my neighbors since his door was open as well.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: hntrspud on October 09, 2013, 02:27:50 PM: Growing drug problem has started to affect us all. 3 yrs ago I had some things stolen from my truck there at Stillwater. Hopefully they can get a handle on these guys before someone else does.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: seth30 on October 09, 2013, 02:32:23 PM: Quote from: hntrspud on October 09, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
Growing drug problem has started to affect us all. 3 yrs ago I had some things stolen from my truck there at Stillwater. Hopefully they can get a handle on these guys before someone else does.
Hopefully the problem goes away one day. We work to hard to have our stuff stolen for someone else's quick fix.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: Elkrunner on October 09, 2013, 02:41:28 PM: Just curious as to what people would actually do if you found someone breaking into your vehicle? I wouldn't think shooting them would be too good of an idea.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: seth30 on October 09, 2013, 02:43:07 PM: Myself and my temper i would problably bum rush the guy and get shot or stabbed :yike: If he had no weapon then we would both be cuffed for different crimes. IMO it would be better if my wife saw it and called it in. Then again I know my anger so hopefully I never have to deal with it.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: vandeman17 on October 09, 2013, 02:49:08 PM: I remember when my car was broken into in Spokane during college. I was volunteering at a youth shelter as I had done every Wednesday night that school year. There were cameras out front where I normally parked and all those spots were taken this night so I had to park out of camera view and go figure, I walked out to see my window broke out and a bunch of crap was stolen. I am sure it was one of the kids in the shelter and I was so angry when I went back inside and had to fill out a report. To this day I am glad that I didn't catch the punk in the act because I have never felt that kind of rage as I did. Something bad might have happened so in the long run it is probably best that i didn't catch them. Never know what you will do but anger and rage can have lasting consequences for all parties involved.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: AspenBud on October 09, 2013, 02:50:41 PM: I used to take two dogs hunting so I could rotate dogs during a day of hunting. I take one now for this reason.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: merkelman on October 09, 2013, 03:04:06 PM: Never a legal idea to commit a homicide unless your life or the life of others is in danger.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: gunrinwa on October 09, 2013, 03:14:42 PM: I say just be a good witness. If someone is in the parking lot and doesn't have a dang yellow sticker thing, or a DU, RMEF or PF sticker, or no camo or orange. That should be a red flag. Maybe discretely snap a photo of the car and/or person with your phone. If it turns out to be nothing....hit delete. If it does then let KC Sheriffs handle.

Now if they threaten your life. That's a good SHOOT!

The incident was the Stillwater North Parking lot.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: jackelope on October 09, 2013, 03:19:30 PM: Quote from: Elkrunner on October 09, 2013, 02:41:28 PM
Just curious as to what people would actually do if you found someone breaking into your vehicle? I wouldn't think shooting them would be too good of an idea.

Only for the internet tough guys.
;)
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: canyonduck on October 10, 2013, 10:26:45 AM: Hmmm. I was out at Cherry Valley Monday running the dogs and bumped into a late 20s, early 30s white guy in the field near the parking lot without blaze and smoking a cig. I intentionally walked up to him to start a conversation. He wasn't hunting - didn't say nor did I ask why he was there. He happened to bring up that he stuck an elk near the Bumping River earlier in the Season which put me somewhat at ease that he was somewhat balanced.

I happened to be on the way back to the parking lot and after arrival I spent some time talking to an old timer when the same younger guy walks into the parking lot, but this time with another guy who wasn't present the first time I saw him. It looked very odd to both me and the old timer, but we just shrugged it off.

I like the earlier suggestion to photo license plates
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: LndShrk on October 10, 2013, 10:59:53 AM: The release sites are not within the city limits. They are patrolled by county and WDFW. Duvall cutting Carnation off from police services is not going to impact the release sites much. If anything it may help just because more county officers might actually be out there.

These areas have always been fairly notorious for break ins and theft going back to the early 80's.

I think the best way to handle this issues is to start utilizing the trail cams.. Catch their mugs in the act get prints made and start posting them all over the nearby towns.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: ICEMAN on October 10, 2013, 11:09:34 AM: Quote from: canyonduck on October 10, 2013, 10:26:45 AM
Hmmm. I was out at Cherry Valley Monday running the dogs and bumped into a late 20s, early 30s white guy in the field near the parking lot without blaze and smoking a cig. I intentionally walked up to him to start a conversation. He wasn't hunting - didn't say nor did I ask why he was there. He happened to bring up that he stuck an elk near the Bumping River earlier in the Season which put me somewhat at ease that he was somewhat balanced.

I happened to be on the way back to the parking lot and after arrival I spent some time talking to an old timer when the same younger guy walks into the parking lot, but this time with another guy who wasn't present the first time I saw him. It looked very odd to both me and the old timer, but we just shrugged it off.

I like the earlier suggestion to photo license plates

Sounds like your cigarette smoking friend may have been on lookout for hunters, while the other guy was casing or thieving from vehicles?
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: jackelope on October 10, 2013, 11:10:33 AM: Quote from: LndShrk on October 10, 2013, 10:59:53 AM
The release sites are not within the city limits. They are patrolled by county and WDFW. Duvall cutting Carnation off from police services is not going to impact the release sites much. If anything it may help just because more county officers might actually be out there.

My comment re: this topic was just in general....there will likely be more cops around Duvall now since they don't have to cover Carnation as well. At least that's what has been said by the officials.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: snowpack on October 10, 2013, 11:18:37 AM: Quote from: LndShrk on October 10, 2013, 10:59:53 AM
The release sites are not within the city limits. They are patrolled by county and WDFW. Duvall cutting Carnation off from police services is not going to impact the release sites much. If anything it may help just because more county officers might actually be out there.

These areas have always been fairly notorious for break ins and theft going back to the early 80's.

I think the best way to handle this issues is to start utilizing the trail cams.. Catch their mugs in the act get prints made and start posting them all over the nearby towns.
I've kind of been thinking web cams in areas that get hit a lot might be a good idea. But don't know that much would come from it, there are a few places now that aren't even prosecuting small felonies like theft and drug paraphanalia due to lack of resources. I know there are tracking/privacy concerns with cameras, but doesn't seem to be much else deterring the drug zombies.
Title: Re: PSA- Snoqualime Valley Pheasant release sites- Vehicle Break-ins occuring
Post by: David Y on December 26, 2013, 06:00:59 PM: Quote from: snowpack on October 10, 2013, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: LndShrk on October 10, 2013, 10:59:53 AM
The release sites are not within the city limits. They are patrolled by county and WDFW. Duvall cutting Carnation off from police services is not going to impact the release sites much. If anything it may help just because more county officers might actually be out there.

These areas have always been fairly notorious for break ins and theft going back to the early 80's.

I think the best way to handle this issues is to start utilizing the trail cams.. Catch their mugs in the act get prints made and start posting them all over the nearby towns.
I've kind of been thinking web cams in areas that get hit a lot might be a good idea. But don't know that much would come from it, there are a few places now that aren't even prosecuting small felonies like theft and drug paraphanalia due to lack of resources. I know there are tracking/privacy concerns with cameras, but doesn't seem to be much else deterring the drug zombies.

In Washington, it's generally okay to video or photograph people who are out in public as there is no expectation of privacy. It is not legal to audio tape them without their permission however. Not sure why the laws are written this way but……. As for the lack or prosecution, that's very true, unfortunately - especially for misdemeanors/gross misdemeanors like lower-value thefts and car prowls.