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Title: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: remington300mag on October 12, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
So, just to get it out right away...this is not a heart warming story of a boys first dear or anything. Instead it is a story of a boy that has more courage, heart, drive, and the sweetest boy a guy could ask to call his son!
I'll start off by saying my son has hunted his butt off for 2 years now......hiking further, longer, and more steep than most kids his age could or would. Never mumbling so much as a complaint.....he truly loves the sport of hunting.....even though his dad hasn't been able to put him on a shooter.....1st year, 13 2 points and spikes and does.....last year finally seen a shooter 2x2 with an eye guard at last light on the last day while driving home.....still no complaints....he just keeps hunting.
That is what makes what happened today break my heart.....yet also filled me so full of being proud of the son I have raised. I started full time guiding this year for salmon, so I haven't had near the time for scouting as I would like....the few days I did get out I didn't see much (3 does) in any of my old stomping grounds.....did see wolf tracks (mission unit) so now I decided to look somewhere new opening day....somewhere I had hunted before but had not scouted. We get up at 2:30am and out the door by 3..... Wanted to make sure we got our spot to walk in before someone else. Left the truck an hour and a half before light to get set up and wait for the action to start. Right at first light I see a group of 4 hunters working their way along a logging road towards where we were watching.....and 2 other hunters coming in from the top of the ridge.....about that time my son, glassing all the time, spots a deer! I throw my glasses up and notice its a buck.....spotting scope set up I zoom in and see it is a nice wide and tall 3x3..... I tell my boy it was a shooter and to get ready....no time at all he is on his bi-pod and ready....I range the deer at 286 yards.....tell him one more time where to hold and he squeezes the trigger....the buck spins around....face plants....tries to get up and starts rolling down into hell it's self....tried to get its feet under it again about 125 yards down the hill but just ended up taking a header into a down burned tree. never moved again. Layed there with its head caught in the limbs of the tree for near 20 minutes while I attacked my son....cheering and carrying on. Every dad thinks of this moment and it was finally our turn!! So, we get our gear all together and grab our packs.....about this time all hell breaks loose right under us......gun fire and a lot of it!!! 7 or 8 shots in the first volley.... Then probably 6 more in the second.....we figured another buck was getting some warning shots....so we drop down the back of our ridge to get in a logging road that would get us much closer to my sons buck......as we start to drop off the hill I notice 4 guys standing at my sons buck.....of coarse I immediately seen red.....I took off down the mountain,son following behind me. As I approach the group (2 adults, 1 teen, 1 about 12 like my son) I see they are gutting the buck.....and it has been shot to hell!!! I asked what they thought they were doing and they said they seen the buck bedded down and shot it.....I mention in not such a nice tone that the reason the buck was laying there is because it was dead already.....asked them why they thought it wouldn't die with their multiple hits.....then mentioned cause it's head was stuck in the limbs......now all I will say is the conversation was not going well....lots of broken English.....the 2 adults were getting pretty pissed.....and I wasn't the calmest of folks. My son stood there at my side the entire time.....never flinched....never scared. Then about the time things were getting really heated.....my son speaks up and asked... "So, which one of you actually tagged the buck?" The  youngest of the 4 raised his hand....my son then asked him, "is this your first buck?" The kids said yes.....and my normally timid son looks at the kid and says in the most manly .voice a 12 year old could speak and says, "you know, that would have been my first buck too.... But it isn't worth fighting over. Come on dad, they can have it." Of coarse I was having none of that......but my son looked at me and said, "really dad, they can have it, they already shot it up really bad" He then just smiled and headed up the hill....I was truly overcome.....I'm known as a guy with a hot temper, an angry guy, a hard ass.....and here is my son......sweet, caring, straight A's, athlete, loving, calm.....more of a thinker......I did something I never thought I would do.....I turned and walked away....all because my 12 year old told me it was ok.....didn't talk about it on the way home.....couldn't stay out due to my bum knee swelling after walking out of the hell hole..... I would have been very proud of my son today for getting his first buck..... But there's no measure to how proud I am of him for being the bigger man.... He is already way a head of his 36 year old father.....we teach our kids a lot in life.... And sometimes they teach us a thing or 2.....
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: wingsandwilds on October 12, 2013, 03:52:05 PM
 :tup: Great story!  Not only am I impressed with your son, but it sounds like you had a 'first' as well.  He sounds like someone who will be a leader some day and take care of others.  I wish you both the best this season.  Congrats to your boy...Karma works wonders.  ;)
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: blackhorn on October 12, 2013, 03:52:48 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: duckmen1 on October 12, 2013, 03:57:41 PM
Wow. Awesome kid. Hope he shoots an even bigger one.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: ldjbuff on October 12, 2013, 04:00:48 PM
So cool. I still would find out where those other adults live and egg their houses
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: Natures Way on October 12, 2013, 04:03:43 PM
That is something to be proud of.  congrats to your son and you.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 12, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
 :chuckle:
:tup: Great story!  Not only am I impressed with your son, but it sounds like you had a 'first' as well.  He sounds like someone who will be a leader some day and take care of others.  I wish you both the best this season.  Congrats to your boy...Karma works wonders.  ;)

 :yeah: that's a son to be proud of  :tup:
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: remington300mag on October 12, 2013, 04:07:36 PM
Thanks fellas! He really is a great kid! got a call last year from the school....he had got in a fight......knowing my son i asked the principle what the other kid had done.....Principle told me he wasn't in trouble i just needed to come down and calm him down (bawling his eyes out) guess the other kid punched a little girl in the face and was choking her....so my son tackled him and bloodied the kids nose. He just kept saying he didnt want to fight but didnt know what to do....lol
Here is something to throw out there...... What would you have done in this situation today with the deer???
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: Pinetar on October 12, 2013, 04:20:58 PM
That is so messed up in so many ways. I'm proud of your son and I have never met him. Good luck is coming his way!!!!!!!!! Those adults should be ashamed of themselves in a big way. There is way more to hunting than the kill and your son has that figured out. Kudos to him and I wish him all the luck in the future.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: jason stevens on October 12, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
I have young girls and would have done as you did listen to your son. Sounds like he was raised right and made an honorable decision. Lots more season and memories to come good for you.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: sven on October 12, 2013, 05:05:22 PM
What a class act your son is  :tup:, the deer God's will reward him I am sure, best of luck to him, Not sure I could have kept my cool either.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: longrange7mm on October 12, 2013, 05:26:21 PM
 :tup: to your son that would be a hard one to take for me as well.. To bad he had to deal with such ass hats.. His buck is out there waiting and getting bigger and maybe closer to the road as I type  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: PolarBear on October 12, 2013, 05:38:53 PM
What a class act your son is  :tup:, the deer God's will reward him I am sure, best of luck to him, Not sure I could have kept my cool either.
:yeah:
You did a great job of raising that young man!  Definitely a son to be proud of!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: MLBowhunting on October 12, 2013, 06:05:10 PM
Great job on his part  :tup:  I wouldve been heated also
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: nwwanderer on October 12, 2013, 06:31:05 PM
PM me if you get a chance
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: remington300mag on October 12, 2013, 07:08:23 PM
Thanks a lot for the support guys! Wishing you and your families all good luck for the rest of the season.......

Nwwanderer....pm sent
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: buck man on October 12, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
Your son has wisdom beyond his years. Tell him his time will come. You may say you are a hard ass dad but children reflect what they have learned from us as parents. I am sure you have a lot more influence in his life than you think and he just proved it. Best story I have read here this year good on both of ya!   :tup:
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 12, 2013, 08:06:55 PM
Wow ... your son is the man  :dunno: I would of done the same thing ...just to bad your son had to witness such crap like that ... That's why when I see other people anywhere near me I run as fast as I can to avoid them !
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: watrapper on October 12, 2013, 08:29:31 PM
I,am proud of your son.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 12, 2013, 09:23:56 PM
What a great story about a great kid. Thank you for sharing it.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: JJB11B on October 12, 2013, 09:32:38 PM
So, just to get it out right away...this is not a heart warming story of a boys first dear or anything. Instead it is a story of a boy that has more courage, heart, drive, and the sweetest boy a guy could ask to call his son!
I'll start off by saying my son has hunted his butt off for 2 years now......hiking further, longer, and more steep than most kids his age could or would. Never mumbling so much as a complaint.....he truly loves the sport of hunting.....even though his dad hasn't been able to put him on a shooter.....1st year, 13 2 points and spikes and does.....last year finally seen a shooter 2x2 with an eye guard at last light on the last day while driving home.....still no complaints....he just keeps hunting.
That is what makes what happened today break my heart.....yet also filled me so full of being proud of the son I have raised. I started full time guiding this year for salmon, so I haven't had near the time for scouting as I would like....the few days I did get out I didn't see much (3 does) in any of my old stomping grounds.....did see wolf tracks (mission unit) so now I decided to look somewhere new opening day....somewhere I had hunted before but had not scouted. We get up at 2:30am and out the door by 3..... Wanted to make sure we got our spot to walk in before someone else. Left the truck an hour and a half before light to get set up and wait for the action to start. Right at first light I see a group of 4 hunters working their way along a logging road towards where we were watching.....and 2 other hunters coming in from the top of the ridge.....about that time my son, glassing all the time, spots a deer! I throw my glasses up and notice its a buck.....spotting scope set up I zoom in and see it is a nice wide and tall 3x3..... I tell my boy it was a shooter and to get ready....no time at all he is on his bi-pod and ready....I range the deer at 286 yards.....tell him one more time where to hold and he squeezes the trigger....the buck spins around....face plants....tries to get up and starts rolling down into hell it's self....tried to get its feet under it again about 125 yards down the hill but just ended up taking a header into a down burned tree. never moved again. Layed there with its head caught in the limbs of the tree for near 20 minutes while I attacked my son....cheering and carrying on. Every dad thinks of this moment and it was finally our turn!! So, we get our gear all together and grab our packs.....about this time all hell breaks loose right under us......gun fire and a lot of it!!! 7 or 8 shots in the first volley.... Then probably 6 more in the second.....we figured another buck was getting some warning shots....so we drop down the back of our ridge to get in a logging road that would get us much closer to my sons buck......as we start to drop off the hill I notice 4 guys standing at my sons buck.....of coarse I immediately seen red.....I took off down the mountain,son following behind me. As I approach the group (2 adults, 1 teen, 1 about 12 like my son) I see they are gutting the buck.....and it has been shot to hell!!! I asked what they thought they were doing and they said they seen the buck bedded down and shot it.....I mention in not such a nice tone that the reason the buck was laying there is because it was dead already.....asked them why they thought it wouldn't die with their multiple hits.....then mentioned cause it's head was stuck in the limbs......now all I will say is the conversation was not going well....lots of broken English.....the 2 adults were getting pretty pissed.....and I wasn't the calmest of folks. My son stood there at my side the entire time.....never flinched....never scared. Then about the time things were getting really heated.....my son speaks up and asked... "So, which one of you actually tagged the buck?" The  youngest of the 4 raised his hand....my son then asked him, "is this your first buck?" The kids said yes.....and my normally timid son looks at the kid and says in the most manly .voice a 12 year old could speak and says, "you know, that would have been my first buck too.... But it isn't worth fighting over. Come on dad, they can have it." Of coarse I was having none of that......but my son looked at me and said, "really dad, they can have it, they already shot it up really bad" He then just smiled and headed up the hill....I was truly overcome.....I'm known as a guy with a hot temper, an angry guy, a hard ass.....and here is my son......sweet, caring, straight A's, athlete, loving, calm.....more of a thinker......I did something I never thought I would do.....I turned and walked away....all because my 12 year old told me it was ok.....didn't talk about it on the way home.....couldn't stay out due to my bum knee swelling after walking out of the hell hole..... I would have been very proud of my son today for getting his first buck..... But there's no measure to how proud I am of him for being the bigger man.... He is already way a head of his 36 year old father.....we teach our kids a lot in life.... And sometimes they teach us a thing or 2.....
It is really neat to see sportsman that have kids growing up the right way, I am really sorry that had to happen but your son probably handled that better thatn any of us. Just one more reason why I quit rifle hunting. I had shot a buck and then watched another hunter shoot it. I had hit a little off the money and it would have taken a second shot. still grinds my gears that people will shoot an animal that is already being engaged by another hunter. I did an about face and walked back to the truck. I hunted modern one more year and threw in the towel
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: washelkhunter on October 12, 2013, 09:42:30 PM
What a great story about a great kid. Thank you for sharing it.
:yeah:

Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: savagehunter on October 12, 2013, 09:50:34 PM
best post i've read on this forum . I can see the confusion on their side but your son showed them how to be a real sportsman and left them with hamburger. Kinda feel bad for the other kid when he grows up to tell his first buck story how does that go? I stole it. only winner here is you and your son cuz his first buck story is a doozy and you for having such a great kid. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: akfireman on October 12, 2013, 10:11:36 PM
Remington300mag....  You should be Proud. These are the type of moments that I can not wait seeing my son becoming a man. When he puts his tag on the next deer that he shoots it is going to feel even greater to him.

Safe Hunting and let us know back on here when he gets it!!!!!!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: Sneekee23 on October 12, 2013, 11:09:14 PM
Had my first west side bull taken that way, you should be proud of your son and proud of yourself for the way he was raised.  It will come back in spades...
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: lokidog on October 12, 2013, 11:12:22 PM
Remington300mag....  You should be Proud. These are the type of moments that I can not wait seeing my son becoming a man. When he puts his tag on the next deer that he shoots it is going to feel even greater to him.

Safe Hunting and let us know back on here when he gets it!!!!!!

 :yeah:  Brought a tear or two to my eye.  Good job raising a true sportsman!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: Hockeyhunter on October 12, 2013, 11:15:20 PM
All I can think to say is wow! I can only hope I am doing as good of a job raising my son! You must be a proud dad for sure!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: wafisherman on October 13, 2013, 08:30:26 AM
Wow.  Simply awesome.   What a wise young man you have raised.  A very proud moment and worth sharing.  I was hunting with my 10 year old yesterday.  We started scouting a few days early and he kept asking me questions about what I would do if I saw a big buck.  I said I would do nothing and he acted surprised.  "but dad, nobody is around and nobody would see"  I explained how it was illegal, and stealing.  And how I would never be able to look back on the trip with pride and thankfulness.  I would always be ashamed.  That seemed to sink in.  Now that we got our buck (he didn't have his license this year - just along to learn), I pointed out how awesome it felt.  How thankful we were.  How much pride we would have in telling out story.  I'm just praying that sinks in and sticks.  And I hope in a few years, he is a great sportsman like your son has turned out to me.  He'll get his first buck.  And he'll stand proud.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: brianmtsinc on October 13, 2013, 08:52:56 AM
What a great story!  Thank you for sharing this. 
There is nothing better, no masher deer or monster elk, that comes close to the pride you feel today about your son.  Congratulations on something much more important!  :tup:

Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 13, 2013, 08:57:16 AM
What a great story!  Thank you for sharing this. 
There is nothing better, no masher deer or monster elk, that comes close to the pride you feel today about your son.  Congratulations on something much more important!  :tup:




 :yeah: :tup:
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: JBar on October 13, 2013, 09:04:08 AM
Put this young man down as sportsman of the year!! I'd love to help reward such sportsmanship and would be in for a $50 donation to help  if one of the site sponsor guides want to hook this kid up with a hunt!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: furiouzgeorge on October 13, 2013, 01:44:18 PM
Read this to my boys (7 and 8). I got all choked up.  :tup:
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: remington300mag on October 13, 2013, 05:54:56 PM
Thank you again everyone for the support!! Let my son see the posts, he wasn't thrilled I posted the story cause he felt it wasn't a big deal......which again is what makes it such a big deal! We got shut out again today though did see a couple does.... Just not able to get my legs under me after the hike out yesterday.....still had a great time with my boy and there is always next weekend!!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: Old Man Yager on October 13, 2013, 06:05:24 PM
Too bad he didn't get the buck, but he got to see what those other so called hunters look and act like. Hope he scores, good luck to you.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: steen on October 13, 2013, 06:08:39 PM
That was a great wake up call for many reading your story.  As an ethical hunter your son is on the top!  He learned more about hunting in one day than most will in a lifetime.  I've seen many unethical things happen in hunting and learned from early experiences not to listen to those hunters.  I have been reaping the benefits for the past 5 years with 4 draws and others with none.  I can only think it is because of God above and ethics.  I'm proud of you also for walking away and giving him his due.  I'd be proud to hunt with the likes of your son!!!!!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: ICEMAN on October 16, 2013, 09:25:08 PM
Great write up of an amazing event Sam, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: HntnFsh on October 28, 2013, 05:28:32 PM
 WOW! A little late reading this story. But from what little I know of you. It doesnt surprise me that your Son acted the way he did. Hes more of a man than a lot of full grown men! Hell. I'm proud of him. And proud of you for raising him right. Your family is a class act!

That young man is going to do good for himself. And I have no doubt that he will get his share of trophies!

Dont let him get discouraged. Dont let him give up. His times coming!

One thought I have about the little boy that tagged the deer. He probably knew it was wrong. But could you imagine the pressure he was under from the rest of those idiots. Sure hope he is strong enough to grow up and break that mold.

Thank you for sharing this story. Just helps reinforce that this world will be OK with young men like your son coming up to make their mark in it.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: 3nails on October 28, 2013, 09:31:36 PM
 Glad I stumbled onto this. This young man has a big future ahead of him. His actions showed his character. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: Annette on October 28, 2013, 09:40:06 PM
Your son is wonderful!! and you......showed him you respect him by walking away, so you are also amazing as well! Adventures and success will flow freely for life!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: swanny on October 29, 2013, 11:03:04 AM
Wow, amazing story, and good for your son! I'm not sure if I got chills from reading this or because my office is cold  ;)
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: runamuk on October 29, 2013, 11:11:30 AM
Out of the mouths of babes....you raised a good one Rem....and good to see you on here.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 29, 2013, 11:18:05 AM
Lots of AC's out there hunting!  :chuckle:

your son is a true sportsMAN!  :tup:
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: WALLEYEGUY on October 29, 2013, 11:19:58 AM
 :tup: Best post EVER!!!  THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: Smokepole on October 29, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
Wow, what a great story.  Your son is a true sportsman.  You should be so proud of him.  It also takes a big man to listen to his son when he makes sense.  The kid was right & you weren't too proud to let him have his way.  You give a kid that kind of respect, and you will have a best friend for life.  My congratulation go out to both of you -- to the kid for showing what it is to be a true sportsman, and to you for being an exemplary father and mentor.

Thanks for such an uplifting post!   :tup:
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: C-Money on October 29, 2013, 11:38:48 AM
So sorry your son did not get to put his tag on his deer, some people anymore.....I just don't know what makes them tick. Your son sounds like a man of honor and truth. I hope you guys can get on some deer and have a quality experience that you both deserve. Good luck on your future hunts. Give your son a pat on the back for me. What a heart breaker deal.
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: gtrplr on October 29, 2013, 12:04:17 PM
Wow, what a great story.  Your son is a true sportsman.  You should be so proud of him.  It also takes a big man to listen to his son when he makes sense.  The kid was right & you weren't too proud to let him have his way.  You give a kid that kind of respect, and you will have a best friend for life.  My congratulation go out to both of you -- to the kid for showing what it is to be a true sportsman, and to you for being an exemplary father and mentor.

Thanks for such an uplifting post!   :tup:

I agree 110%, you are obviously an excellent role model for a true sportsman and a bigger man than myself! I'm going to take something from this situation and if this ever happens to me I'm going to handle it the same way, walk away. If this happened to me yesterday I would not be walking away without a fight to teach my son to always stand up for what is right, now I know better and what the real right thing is to do!
Title: Re: Proud Dad!!!
Post by: combs338 on October 29, 2013, 12:22:07 PM
 :tup:
So, just to get it out right away...this is not a heart warming story of a boys first dear or anything. Instead it is a story of a boy that has more courage, heart, drive, and the sweetest boy a guy could ask to call his son!
I'll start off by saying my son has hunted his butt off for 2 years now......hiking further, longer, and more steep than most kids his age could or would. Never mumbling so much as a complaint.....he truly loves the sport of hunting.....even though his dad hasn't been able to put him on a shooter.....1st year, 13 2 points and spikes and does.....last year finally seen a shooter 2x2 with an eye guard at last light on the last day while driving home.....still no complaints....he just keeps hunting.
That is what makes what happened today break my heart.....yet also filled me so full of being proud of the son I have raised. I started full time guiding this year for salmon, so I haven't had near the time for scouting as I would like....the few days I did get out I didn't see much (3 does) in any of my old stomping grounds.....did see wolf tracks (mission unit) so now I decided to look somewhere new opening day....somewhere I had hunted before but had not scouted. We get up at 2:30am and out the door by 3..... Wanted to make sure we got our spot to walk in before someone else. Left the truck an hour and a half before light to get set up and wait for the action to start. Right at first light I see a group of 4 hunters working their way along a logging road towards where we were watching.....and 2 other hunters coming in from the top of the ridge.....about that time my son, glassing all the time, spots a deer! I throw my glasses up and notice its a buck.....spotting scope set up I zoom in and see it is a nice wide and tall 3x3..... I tell my boy it was a shooter and to get ready....no time at all he is on his bi-pod and ready....I range the deer at 286 yards.....tell him one more time where to hold and he squeezes the trigger....the buck spins around....face plants....tries to get up and starts rolling down into hell it's self....tried to get its feet under it again about 125 yards down the hill but just ended up taking a header into a down burned tree. never moved again. Layed there with its head caught in the limbs of the tree for near 20 minutes while I attacked my son....cheering and carrying on. Every dad thinks of this moment and it was finally our turn!! So, we get our gear all together and grab our packs.....about this time all hell breaks loose right under us......gun fire and a lot of it!!! 7 or 8 shots in the first volley.... Then probably 6 more in the second.....we figured another buck was getting some warning shots....so we drop down the back of our ridge to get in a logging road that would get us much closer to my sons buck......as we start to drop off the hill I notice 4 guys standing at my sons buck.....of coarse I immediately seen red.....I took off down the mountain,son following behind me. As I approach the group (2 adults, 1 teen, 1 about 12 like my son) I see they are gutting the buck.....and it has been shot to hell!!! I asked what they thought they were doing and they said they seen the buck bedded down and shot it.....I mention in not such a nice tone that the reason the buck was laying there is because it was dead already.....asked them why they thought it wouldn't die with their multiple hits.....then mentioned cause it's head was stuck in the limbs......now all I will say is the conversation was not going well....lots of broken English.....the 2 adults were getting pretty pissed.....and I wasn't the calmest of folks. My son stood there at my side the entire time.....never flinched....never scared. Then about the time things were getting really heated.....my son speaks up and asked... "So, which one of you actually tagged the buck?" The  youngest of the 4 raised his hand....my son then asked him, "is this your first buck?" The kids said yes.....and my normally timid son looks at the kid and says in the most manly .voice a 12 year old could speak and says, "you know, that would have been my first buck too.... But it isn't worth fighting over. Come on dad, they can have it." Of coarse I was having none of that......but my son looked at me and said, "really dad, they can have it, they already shot it up really bad" He then just smiled and headed up the hill....I was truly overcome.....I'm known as a guy with a hot temper, an angry guy, a hard ass.....and here is my son......sweet, caring, straight A's, athlete, loving, calm.....more of a thinker......I did something I never thought I would do.....I turned and walked away....all because my 12 year old told me it was ok.....didn't talk about it on the way home.....couldn't stay out due to my bum knee swelling after walking out of the hell hole..... I would have been very proud of my son today for getting his first buck..... But there's no measure to how proud I am of him for being the bigger man.... He is already way a head of his 36 year old father.....we teach our kids a lot in life.... And sometimes they teach us a thing or 2.....

 :tup:
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