Post by: Jingles on October 20, 2013, 11:41:14 AM
I realise the the taste of the meat might be influenced by what it has been eating but the size of this bear would probably make book and the color phase is what I am after already have my 350 pound solid black.
Post by: D-Rock425 on October 20, 2013, 11:44:01 AM
Post by: Jingles on October 20, 2013, 12:03:23 PM
Post by: Expedition Scout on October 21, 2013, 05:05:48 AM
What is the WDFW rule on baiting a bear with natural bait? anyone know?
Post by: boneaddict on October 21, 2013, 05:30:57 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 21, 2013, 06:56:58 AM
What is the WDFW rule on baiting a bear with natural bait? anyone know?
Since he didn't place the bait there he's good. If he had dumped a bucket of guts 50' from his treestand, it'd be a different story I believe.
Post by: boneaddict on October 21, 2013, 07:32:25 AM
Post by: h20hunter on October 30, 2013, 03:00:58 PM
Is that "mass" the gut pile?
Post by: mulehunter on October 30, 2013, 03:09:43 PM
Post by: bigjohn98591 on October 30, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
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Post by: h20hunter on October 30, 2013, 03:16:08 PM
Post by: X-Force on October 30, 2013, 03:53:40 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on October 30, 2013, 04:04:08 PM
Post by: lewy on October 30, 2013, 04:08:32 PM
Looks like the deer was eating whole apples. :chuckle: :chuckle:
:yeah:
Post by: Buckmark on October 30, 2013, 04:08:39 PM
Looks like the deer was eating whole apples. :chuckle: :chuckle:Interesting looking "gut" pile, more so when you blow up the pic...but hey who am i to say....
Post by: h20hunter on October 30, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 30, 2013, 05:16:10 PM
well went and spent all morning out at the gut pile / carcass and wow something got ahold of it and moved it approximately 250 feet up and around the a hill, tucked it in under a log and some brush. I mean the amount of carcass that was left the other day was both hind and front quarters and the entire chest cavity and neck today all that was left was just the Front quarters and neck although the hind quarters were at the new location.
I am wondering if a cougar would of possibly done this or is this common for a bruiser of a bruin to do it also? At any rate going back out friday and spend from before daylight to after dark
My bear I shot a few years ago was dragging a whole deer carcass up an old skidder road. So, I guess a cat could do that too.
That's a fatty in that picture Jingles. Hope you get him or the cat or.............
Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 01, 2013, 08:27:20 PM
the only thing natural is growing plants or live fish. or water. period.
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 01, 2013, 08:35:43 PM
the WDFW law is that if you happen to shoot one over an "unknown" gut pile then its ok. if you are "aware" then its still considered baiting, I asked this exact question last year to wdfw via email and posted the entire email for all to see, it was very clear that any "known" gut pile or anything that is a food source for bears that is not natural is bait.
the only thing natural is growing plants or live fish. or water. period.
You'll often get varying answers between officials. Some even in direct conflict with RCW, you've got to be careful if you're going to ask an individual in Olympia.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 02, 2013, 09:26:06 AM
Post by: JLS on November 02, 2013, 09:39:09 AM
If you're baiting deer and a bear keeps coming back to the deer bait, you're not baiting the bear and it's perfectly OK to shoot the bear. This was told to me by a friend that had that scenario. The local Game Warden told him that. So, who knows what's right.
That's sure not what I was told.
Post by: runamuk on November 02, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
If you're baiting deer and a bear keeps coming back to the deer bait, you're not baiting the bear and it's perfectly OK to shoot the bear. This was told to me by a friend that had that scenario. The local Game Warden told him that. So, who knows what's right.this is super variable so much of it has been left to the interpretation of the officer involved, I think the very best thing to do is ask the actual officers/wardens you might have to deal with in the aftermath if they say good to go.... bang fat bear dead, if they say no :dunno: then its your call and your willingness to potentially have to explain to a judge.
Post by: h20hunter on November 04, 2013, 09:27:23 AM
If you're baiting deer and a bear keeps coming back to the deer bait, you're not baiting the bear and it's perfectly OK to shoot the bear. This was told to me by a friend that had that scenario. The local Game Warden told him that. So, who knows what's right.this is super variable so much of it has been left to the interpretation of the officer involved, I think the very best thing to do is ask the actual officers/wardens you might have to deal with in the aftermath if they say good to go.... bang fat bear dead, if they say no :dunno: then its your call and your willingness to potentially have to explain to a judge.
There is no doubt in my mind...if you are hunting deer over bait, a bear comes in, you shoot it and tag it, you will (if caught) get cited and lose your butt.
Post by: D-Rock425 on November 06, 2013, 11:10:25 AM
Post by: h20hunter on November 06, 2013, 11:12:05 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on November 06, 2013, 11:12:33 AM
Post by: h20hunter on November 06, 2013, 11:13:07 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on November 06, 2013, 11:14:38 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 06, 2013, 11:17:28 AM
Okay I'm asking where are the pics? :dunno:
what pics?
Post by: D-Rock425 on November 06, 2013, 11:21:01 AM
Post by: Buckmark on November 06, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
The pics of the "gutpile" in what appears to be a depression and partially covered with branches, with bears near and on it looked very much like a pile of apples or something other than a "gutpile" or dead animal.
Post by: D-Rock425 on November 06, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
Post by: Curly on November 06, 2013, 11:28:17 AM
If you're baiting deer and a bear keeps coming back to the deer bait, you're not baiting the bear and it's perfectly OK to shoot the bear. This was told to me by a friend that had that scenario. The local Game Warden told him that. So, who knows what's right.
That doesn't pass the smell test. I wish it were true, but I wouldn't risk shooting a bear over a pile of deer bait. Just because you say you are baiting deer, doesn't mean that the bait doesn't become bear bait as soon as a bear decides he likes the deer bait.
I suppose if bears could read, you could post a sign saying "deer bait; no bears allowed"....... :)
Post by: sirmissalot on November 06, 2013, 11:28:59 AM
Post by: Buckmark on November 06, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
I remember a few years ago a dead bear post with feed store salt bags in the background of the pic, that thread blew up quick and got locked. Seems like times have changed.