Post by: CouesFanatic on October 21, 2013, 02:41:05 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 21, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on October 21, 2013, 02:46:27 PM
I have seen none in my fields during the day the past few weeks, only at dark.
I am making a stand in the evenings and early mornings, that's it.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 21, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
I have all the same questions, and no answers. I'm about to give up on blacktails- forever!:yeah: before you go insane :chuckle:
Post by: DoubleJ on October 21, 2013, 02:54:30 PM
They are in night mode.
I have seen none in my fields during the day the past few weeks, only at dark.
I am making a stand in the evenings and early mornings, that's it.
Gotta be out midday, not mornings and evenings when the moon is big and full like it has been. Sleep in, hunt 10am-3pm, and start drinking early
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 21, 2013, 02:54:42 PM
They are in night mode.
I have seen none in my fields during the day the past few weeks, only at dark.
I am making a stand in the evenings and early mornings, that's it.
yep saw a brute next to the Skagit County port land on farm to market rd this moring in the dark, every year just like clock work i see one there in pre rut or rut time, always a brute. anybody have friends that live in that area good hunting.
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 21, 2013, 02:58:32 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on October 21, 2013, 03:01:03 PM
They seem to figure out that first light and last light are danger times, and move when most hunters are back at camp, home, vehicle....
Too bad the weather seems calm until after season, a good storm could get them moving...
I have heard that 40% of the harvest actually occurs during late season, if I was a MF hunter I would really only be hunting the opener, the last week of October, and late season. :twocents:
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 21, 2013, 03:01:30 PM
Was that the Monster that only grows one antler. I see him by the transfer station all of the time. He knows where the safe zone is :bash:
no, just north of PACAR. i have not seen the one horned brute yet.
Post by: Griiz on October 21, 2013, 03:30:24 PM
Are you all changing your strategies now that the deer have been pressured? Opening day I saw 20 plus deer and now I am only seeing a few. Is checking the clear cuts at first light a waste of time now? I'm not sure how to hunt these tree farms. I'm trying to get away from people but the brush is too thick to walk and shoot in. Is walking old closed roads worth while? Just trying to get a few pointers, what do you think?
Hunt all day. Don't get discouraged as they are there. The rut should be starting and your chances of getting a bruiser are going up. I've shot many nice bucks between 10:00 and 11:00am. Find some nice rub activity and park your rearend in a tree or ground stand. You might go days without seeing anything and then, bang, your tag is filled. Sit as often as you can, whether it is glassing a clearcut edge, watching a road crossing, or back in the trees or swamp. I shoot pretty much all my blacktails in thicker brush sitting and waiting. Good Luck!
Post by: FLIZZ on October 21, 2013, 03:54:53 PM
Post by: DeArBuCK4me on October 22, 2013, 10:32:13 AM
Post by: Thefisherman83 on October 22, 2013, 10:35:45 AM
Post by: npaull on October 22, 2013, 10:36:19 AM
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2013, 10:43:06 AM
I have been seeing 10-15 deer a day, in vail of all places. My buddy killed one off a does butt last night, they are starting to move a lot more. The majority of deer I have been seeing are from 3pm to dark.Yep, starting to see more in the late evenings now. 2 more last night in the fading light.
Post by: Mike450r on October 22, 2013, 10:44:19 AM
People like to use the term nocturnal and that isn't the case, just more active at night but still out all day long. Just as an experiment next time you come across a clear cut that has a lot of trails coming to the road walk across it. you will more often than not jump a few deer. You probably know this but those clear cuts are nastier than they look and even the flattest ones have a lot of spots that you can't see and plenty of places for a buck to be bedded down. If I get impatient looking and glassing I walk out into clearcuts all the time and still hunt just like I do in the timber and brush.
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2013, 10:45:36 AM
Blackies are hard to see, hard to hunt in the thick cover, impossible to pattern and change habits quickly.
You just have to be out there, that's all I can say.
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2013, 10:50:46 AM
If you are hunting a spot and not seeing anything and thinking to yourself Most times when I am checking out a spot or glassing I end up seeing deer right at the moment I am ready to give it up. A lot of times standing right there in the open perfectly still, other times partially hidden. Blacktails can stand perfectly still for so long it boggles the mind.I watch deer all year long, every day. They make a definite switch from being out in the open field during the day at this time of year and only walk a few feet into the open just at dusk.
People like to use the term nocturnal and that isn't the case, just more active at night but still out all day long. Just as an experiment next time you come across a clear cut that has a lot of trails coming to the road walk across it. you will more often than not jump a few deer. You probably know this but those clear cuts are nastier than they look and even the flattest ones have a lot of spots that you can't see and plenty of places for a buck to be bedded down. If I get impatient looking and glassing I walk out into clearcuts all the time and still hunt just like I do the in the timber and brush.
They are still out in the woods and like you say, they can be jumped if you go after them in the cover.
I love this comment, "I can't believe there are no deer here" they are probably there."
this is the right attitude! They are there.
The photo below was taken only a few weeks ago and is what I can see in that corner of my field at least 3 times a week with different groups of deer (and elk).
As soon as the pressure starts in the woods they disappear during daylight. I haven't seen them in 2 weeks. they will all be back later this winter, right on cue!
Post by: Mike450r on October 22, 2013, 11:20:26 AM
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2013, 11:59:31 AM
I agree with them avoiding being out in the open in the field this time of year but somewhat disagree that they definitely head for brush, reprod or timber for daytime cover. I have seen way too many bucks bedded down in what they consider to be cover but is actually what we would consider a clearcut. They do like to be near escapement but they can in my experience be just as happy to lay down wherever if they think it hides them even if it doesn't from all angles particularly if they have a bush to browse on and chew cud while they are laying there. Just have to find the right angle.:yeah:
Post by: DoubleJ on October 22, 2013, 12:03:56 PM
If you are hunting a spot and not seeing anything and thinking to yourself Most times when I am checking out a spot or glassing I end up seeing deer right at the moment I am ready to give it up. A lot of times standing right there in the open perfectly still, other times partially hidden. Blacktails can stand perfectly still for so long it boggles the mind.I watch deer all year long, every day. They make a definite switch from being out in the open field during the day at this time of year and only walk a few feet into the open just at dusk.
People like to use the term nocturnal and that isn't the case, just more active at night but still out all day long. Just as an experiment next time you come across a clear cut that has a lot of trails coming to the road walk across it. you will more often than not jump a few deer. You probably know this but those clear cuts are nastier than they look and even the flattest ones have a lot of spots that you can't see and plenty of places for a buck to be bedded down. If I get impatient looking and glassing I walk out into clearcuts all the time and still hunt just like I do the in the timber and brush.
They are still out in the woods and like you say, they can be jumped if you go after them in the cover.
I love this comment, "I can't believe there are no deer here" they are probably there."
this is the right attitude! They are there.
The photo below was taken only a few weeks ago and is what I can see in that corner of my field at least 3 times a week with different groups of deer (and elk).
As soon as the pressure starts in the woods they disappear during daylight. I haven't seen them in 2 weeks. they will all be back later this winter, right on cue!
What about right at dusk? Do they come back out there? I have a spot I hunt that is similar with woods coming right into a grassy "Yard" for lack of a better term. The does and fawns and the occasional buck come out almost nightly during the summer. I haven't been by there yet this October so I'm not sure if they are making an appearance or not. I would like to have my middle son hunt it since he's kind of stuck sitting in one spot and waiting due to his size but, not sure I want to waste valuable nights on a spot that I know holds at least does in the summer but not sure if they come out this time of year.
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2013, 12:07:03 PM
Nevertheless I wait in my hide and watch every night after work, sooner or later he will step out......I hope.
Post by: jackmaster on October 22, 2013, 12:12:58 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on October 22, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
Post by: Ripper on October 22, 2013, 01:21:20 PM
Post by: Samish on October 22, 2013, 01:56:08 PM
Was that the Monster that only grows one antler. I see him by the transfer station all of the time. He knows where the safe zone is :bash:
no, just north of PACAR. i have not seen the one horned brute yet.
I have 5 acres just north of PACAR. 2 nights ago I had 3 different bucks on my cam in a 2 hr period. One looks like it might be a shooter. Of course his was the worst picture of the bunch.
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 22, 2013, 02:49:59 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on October 22, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 22, 2013, 07:23:46 PM
Was that the Monster that only grows one antler. I see him by the transfer station all of the time. He knows where the safe zone is :bash:
no, just north of PACAR. i have not seen the one horned brute yet.
I have 5 acres just north of PACAR. 2 nights ago I had 3 different bucks on my cam in a 2 hr period. One looks like it might be a shooter. Of course his was the worst picture of the bunch.
Dude you need to start feeding those poor creatures so they become tastier? :chuckle: :chuckle:
You ever see the big ones?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 22, 2013, 07:30:11 PM
A 1996 study by the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife showed just how nocturnal mature blacktail bucks are. As part of the pre-rut study, cameras were placed along six fall migration trails, from high up in the Cascade Range to the deers' low-elevation winter range. Triggered by an infrared beam of light when an animal walked past, the cameras registered the date and time each photograph was taken. The results were eye-opening: Of the 606 deer photographed, 87 percent of the bucks traveled at night, while only 56 percent of the does and fawns traveled after dark. Also of note: 42 percent of the bucks photographed were 4 by 4s or better.Sounds about right ...Until next week :chuckle:
Post by: ghosthunter on October 22, 2013, 07:35:30 PM
They are in night mode.
I have seen none in my fields during the day the past few weeks, only at dark.
I am making a stand in the evenings and early mornings, that's it.
yep saw a brute next to the Skagit County port land on farm to market rd this moring in the dark, every year just like clock work i see one there in pre rut or rut time, always a brute. anybody have friends that live in that area good hunting.
Yep never saw a shooter in E wash. Come home and go to the dump. 3x4 walks across the road at 2 pm. Right in front of me. On port property ,Ovenell & Higgins way. :bash: :bash:
Post by: 3nails on October 22, 2013, 07:41:57 PM
Or the week after! :chuckle:A 1996 study by the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife showed just how nocturnal mature blacktail bucks are. As part of the pre-rut study, cameras were placed along six fall migration trails, from high up in the Cascade Range to the deers' low-elevation winter range. Triggered by an infrared beam of light when an animal walked past, the cameras registered the date and time each photograph was taken. The results were eye-opening: Of the 606 deer photographed, 87 percent of the bucks traveled at night, while only 56 percent of the does and fawns traveled after dark. Also of note: 42 percent of the bucks photographed were 4 by 4s or better.Sounds about right ...Until next week :chuckle:
Post by: Samish on October 22, 2013, 09:09:38 PM
Was that the Monster that only grows one antler. I see him by the transfer station all of the time. He knows where the safe zone is :bash:
no, just north of PACAR. i have not seen the one horned brute yet.
I have 5 acres just north of PACAR. 2 nights ago I had 3 different bucks on my cam in a 2 hr period. One looks like it might be a shooter. Of course his was the worst picture of the bunch.
Dude you need to start feeding those poor creatures so they become tastier? :chuckle: :chuckle:
You ever see the big ones?
I've seen a few really nice deer on the hill over the years.
Post by: spotter26 on October 22, 2013, 10:41:56 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on October 23, 2013, 08:45:15 AM
I looked in the regs to see if there was a season for archery in the 550 so I could give some of you a shot at them but it is closed for late season :dunno:
I hunt modern and I doubt the big herds will be in my fields until after the season ends, story of my life.
Post by: jackmaster on October 23, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
On a sidenote, the elk finally started arriving yesterday. We saw 5 cows and a monster 5x5. I have been getting concerned because they usually arrive earlier.dude i hear that, at my place i could kill an elk every year if i hunted with muzzle loader or archery, the elk are in my place all the time except rifle season, my dad messed up twice this musket season on a nice 5x5 and then one monster 6x7, and a bunch of cows... GUESS WHAT? they wont show during the rifle season though :chuckle: in 12 or 13 years i have shot one bull out back! i could have got one a couple years ago but i couldnt pull the trigger, he was a little 3pt or 3x4, i think he might be the 6x7 now but cant be for sure :dunno: GO FIGURE :chuckle:
I looked in the regs to see if there was a season for archery in the 550 so I could give some of you a shot at them but it is closed for late season :dunno:
I hunt modern and I doubt the big herds will be in my fields until after the season ends, story of my life.
Post by: scout/sniper on October 23, 2013, 08:54:26 AM
Good Luck!!!
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on October 23, 2013, 02:54:49 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on October 24, 2013, 07:38:21 AM