Post by: BKMFR on November 12, 2013, 07:22:16 PM
Is there a market for pigeons? If so, What is the going rate? And is there any legal issues in selling them?
Thanks for the help!
Post by: ghosthunter on November 12, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
Not sure what the price should be for me when I needed them , I would have paid a lot.
Seems like someone is always looking for birds.
Post by: WRL on November 12, 2013, 07:39:35 PM
I would say you could reliably get $3 a piece for them.
WRL
Post by: wildweeds on November 12, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on November 12, 2013, 09:27:41 PM
Post by: BKMFR on November 13, 2013, 05:24:20 AM
Post by: AspenBud on November 13, 2013, 09:05:45 AM
$3.00? sheesh that cheap. I will pay $5.00 without even flinching.
I've never paid more than $2.00-$3.00 a piece for them, usually I have gotten them for free. But that was a couple of years ago and from guys who raised their own homers and needed to cut down on the population in their pens...was also in a different state.
I'm honestly surprised more people don't just raise their own here. They're about the cheapest birds to use for dog training...and they're reusable if you raise homers.
Post by: KFhunter on November 13, 2013, 09:12:33 AM
even if you find someone to give you free birds at least donate to the feed bill :chuckle:
Post by: bracer40 on November 13, 2013, 09:20:39 AM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on November 13, 2013, 11:32:10 AM
Post by: Stilly bay on November 13, 2013, 04:10:02 PM
$3.00? sheesh that cheap. I will pay $5.00 without even flinching.
I've never paid more than $2.00-$3.00 a piece for them, usually I have gotten them for free...was also in a different state.
:hello: welcome to Western WA! Chukars and quail go for $10-$12 bucks a pop too.
I honestly do not remember the last time ( if ever) I saw pigeons for sale for $3.00- a price like that is not the standard and if someone passes up birds going for $5.00 apiece they are going to be waiting one hell of a long time for the next guy selling them at $3.00
Post by: Happy Gilmore on November 14, 2013, 03:14:12 PM
$3.00? sheesh that cheap. I will pay $5.00 without even flinching.
I've never paid more than $2.00-$3.00 a piece for them, usually I have gotten them for free...was also in a different state.
:hello: welcome to Western WA! Chukars and quail go for $10-$12 bucks a pop too.
I honestly do not remember the last time ( if ever) I saw pigeons for sale for $3.00- a price like that is not the standard and if someone passes up birds going for $5.00 apiece they are going to be waiting one hell of a long time for the next guy selling them at $3.00
Bulk is always cheaper.
Post by: WRL on November 14, 2013, 03:34:03 PM
$3.00? sheesh that cheap. I will pay $5.00 without even flinching.
I've never paid more than $2.00-$3.00 a piece for them, usually I have gotten them for free...was also in a different state.
:hello: welcome to Western WA! Chukars and quail go for $10-$12 bucks a pop too.
I honestly do not remember the last time ( if ever) I saw pigeons for sale for $3.00- a price like that is not the standard and if someone passes up birds going for $5.00 apiece they are going to be waiting one hell of a long time for the next guy selling them at $3.00
Just bought some 10 days ago. $3 each.
Yeah its possible you MIGHT find someone desperate and willing to pay more but with ducks at $11 each and chukar for $10 (I actually just bought a pile of them for $5 each) you aren't gonna move MANY at more than $3 ea consistently.
WRL
Post by: Don Fischer on November 14, 2013, 04:50:42 PM
if what you want to do is catch them and have a market go to training kennels and offer them for sale. Don't expect to make a whole bunch of money on then though. Those kennels that go through a lot of birds buy in bulk and you can't afford to sell that cheap. The guy's with canons and net's generally get lots of them with every firing, like 200+ at a shot. You can't compete with them. On the other hand, I have no clue why pointing dog trainer's are willing to pay $6 to $12 for bob white and chukar to train with with all the free pigeon's out there. A lot are simply to lazy to catch and raise their own, some can't do it because of HOA. But the guy's just to lazy will normally want a better price, not only lazy but cheap also.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on November 15, 2013, 08:23:42 AM
Post by: Stilly bay on November 15, 2013, 10:09:11 AM
$3.00? sheesh that cheap. I will pay $5.00 without even flinching.
I've never paid more than $2.00-$3.00 a piece for them, usually I have gotten them for free...was also in a different state.
:hello: welcome to Western WA! Chukars and quail go for $10-$12 bucks a pop too.
I honestly do not remember the last time ( if ever) I saw pigeons for sale for $3.00- a price like that is not the standard and if someone passes up birds going for $5.00 apiece they are going to be waiting one hell of a long time for the next guy selling them at $3.00
Just bought some 10 days ago. $3 each.
So why don't you go ahead and share your source with the rest of us if three dollar birds are so easy to come by, Im sure there are lots of westside guys that would love to buy birds that cheap.
Same with you Happy, spread the wealth. No reason not to if they are so readily available at that price :dunno:
I will start holding my breath for your answer right now.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on November 15, 2013, 11:01:21 AM
it's a network. If you buy a lot and kill a lot of birds, you get the phone call when people have them available. Folks who train which have enough birds on hand will call me and tell me who has birds and is trying to sell.
Start killing at least 100 birds a month per dog and you'll get the calls.
Post by: AspenBud on November 15, 2013, 11:35:32 AM
It's worth the investment in a smallish pigeon coop, Lion Country Supply sells some good blueprints, to put a breeding pair into.
http://www.lcsupply.com/Pigeon-Loft-Plans/productinfo/PLP/ (http://www.lcsupply.com/Pigeon-Loft-Plans/productinfo/PLP/)
Post by: WRL on November 15, 2013, 04:33:59 PM
$3.00? sheesh that cheap. I will pay $5.00 without even flinching.
I've never paid more than $2.00-$3.00 a piece for them, usually I have gotten them for free...was also in a different state.
:hello: welcome to Western WA! Chukars and quail go for $10-$12 bucks a pop too.
I honestly do not remember the last time ( if ever) I saw pigeons for sale for $3.00- a price like that is not the standard and if someone passes up birds going for $5.00 apiece they are going to be waiting one hell of a long time for the next guy selling them at $3.00
Just bought some 10 days ago. $3 each.
So why don't you go ahead and share your source with the rest of us if three dollar birds are so easy to come by, Im sure there are lots of westside guys that would love to buy birds that cheap.
Same with you Happy, spread the wealth. No reason not to if they are so readily available at that price :dunno:
I will start holding my breath for your answer right now.
Bought 20 of them from a gal in Wenatchee. Don't remember her name but could get a copy of the check if you really wanted it. She had extras from training some pointers.
I also have a contact down by Vancouver. The pigeon racing clubs don't want their culls coming back so they like to sell them to retriever trainers cause they know they will kill them. Last time I bought from them I bought about 60 at $2 each. Over the years, I have probably bought 500 birds from the one guy.
There are 3 or 4 folks along the I-5 corridor that have cannon nets and sell them bulk. They are not normally interested in selling 5 or 10 at a time.
But mostly, you can get them from the game bird guy down by St Louis Ponds. He had some $5 pheasants last year.
Also, craigslist is a pretty good resource to check. I just bought 60 chukars from a guy in Ritzville that raises them for $5 each.
Mostly, though, I use ducks....buy them from Wendy at Westwind farms.
I have bought PLENTY of birds from Jerry Collingham. I usually try to catch him on his bird delivery circuit. I have purchased pigeons and ducks from Jerry.
WRL
Post by: Happy Gilmore on November 16, 2013, 08:10:24 AM
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 21, 2013, 07:28:38 AM
Post by: WRL on November 21, 2013, 08:10:56 AM
Don't know anything about them or how many.
WRL
Post by: wildweeds on November 21, 2013, 12:03:50 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on November 21, 2013, 12:31:52 PM
Post by: WRL on November 21, 2013, 02:19:57 PM
My trainer buddy was all jacked up about the 5 dollar chukars that are being raised over in the basin area,till he got there to look at them,not even close to being old/good enough to use on pointing dogs.Probably good enough to throw out of winger zingers for retrievers to chase down though.Good chukars are going to be in the 8.75 thru 10.50 or more range,preserve quality adults(8 months old),plump and feathered well can be as high as 12.50 each.Look at a preserve package for birds,divide it in half and then divde in half again,the end sum will be appoximately what the intial bird cost is.Per bird chukar shoot here is 25 per bird up to 6 and 27.50 for any add ons.
Don't know if they came from the same guy I got them from for $5 but the ones I bought, I resold half of them to two pointer trainers and they used and shot them up within two weeks after getting them. They flew very well.
I used mine up slowly (kept about 30 of them) and used probably 6 or so every week for a while. They flew EXTREMELY well and were in good condition for the get go. Probably a third of them ended up free range because the gunners missed them. I have some pics of them after they got lose.
I froze several of them to use for my retrievers after we used them with my pointers.
WRL
Post by: wildweeds on November 21, 2013, 03:22:58 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on November 21, 2013, 05:03:28 PM
Post by: WRL on November 21, 2013, 05:34:59 PM
Yeah those are better than the ones he looked at,the ones he looked at were 10 weeks old,the ones you have pictured are in the 16-20 week zone.
Actually I bought them at 8 weeks and this was about 3 weeks later.
I can definitely tell you at 8 weeks they were flying all over the place.
Sounds like the same ones I bought. Its ok.....let your "trainer" not buy them as I will buy them all day long at that age for the $5.00. They were probably just BARELY big enough for retriever work as they were pretty small but they flew REALLY well and never had a pointer catch any!
WRL