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Equipment & Gear => Archery Gear => Topic started by: kirkland-mark on November 14, 2013, 09:09:33 AM

Title: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: kirkland-mark on November 14, 2013, 09:09:33 AM: I've been shooting a PSE stinger for a couple years as a good starter bow. I wanted to see if I would like shooting/hunting with it. I was hooked from the first day. It's a bit on the loud side when I'm at the range comparing to other folks but has served me well. Do I really need to keep up with the Jones'.

I shot a couple Hoyts at Nock Point last week....wow what a difference. :yike:

What would you do?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: h20hunter on November 14, 2013, 09:19:45 AM: You need a new bow.

If you are at the Nock did you shoot a new Hoyt Charger? Great bow...bro in law just picked one up.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: sebek556 on November 14, 2013, 09:21:10 AM: I shot the same bow for 15 years before getting a new one. Ever archer is different. First thing I would ask is the bow legal to hunt with? If yes then the next question is are you comfortable and accurate with it? If so I would give it a few years before changing your set up, high end bows get pricey really quick. But in the end its up to you. I know guys with old old PSE's that whack deer just as good I as do with my 2 year old bow. If the bow is safe,legal, and your good with it there is no real need to change. But there could be a want :chuckle:
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: yajsab on November 14, 2013, 10:38:53 AM: If you have the money, go for it. Warning, once you get the bug it's hard to control it.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 14, 2013, 10:43:09 AM: Quote from: yajsab on November 14, 2013, 10:38:53 AM
If you have the money, go for it. Warning, once you get the bug it's hard to control it.

Yeah, if you've got it, then go get it. I'd love a new bow, but apparently having the house in proper condition is supposed to be a priority. :dunno:
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: kirkland-mark on November 14, 2013, 12:10:37 PM: Thanks for the replies! I knew I would find the answer I was looking for. :chuckle:

Now it's decision time.....

Mark
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 14, 2013, 01:49:35 PM: Quote from: kirkland-mark on November 14, 2013, 12:10:37 PM
Thanks for the replies! I knew I would find the answer I was looking for. :chuckle:

Now it's decision time.....

Mark

Carbon Element. Decision over.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on November 14, 2013, 02:10:57 PM: Yeah ...new bow :twocents: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: Jellymon on November 14, 2013, 02:16:29 PM: After you get a new bow, don't forget the new backup bow as well! :tup:
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: follow maggie on November 16, 2013, 07:17:29 AM: Whatever condition the house is when hunting season arrives is then proper condition at my house. Makes it a lot easier to manage the priorities that way.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: QUINNB on December 23, 2013, 11:04:54 PM: I also have a stinger I bought three years ago and have taken 3 deer with mine. But I am definitely going to upgrade within the next few months. I purchased mine because it was cheap and didn't know if I would like archery hunting. Same as you I am hooked and decided it time to upgrade after shooting a couple of my buddies bows.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: Come Get Some on December 24, 2013, 07:41:00 AM: The carbon Element is pricey, BUT it will probably be the fastest ,smoothest and most comfortable bow you will shoot. Dont buy it or any other bow unless it feels good to you NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAYS
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: loggerjim on December 24, 2013, 08:22:19 AM: Do you "need" a new bow? Hmm, probably not, me neither, but I'm getting one anyways. My tomkat shoots hunting arrows in the mid 290`s and is relatively quiet, but man it feels like a boat anchor compared to the carbon knight.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: DaveBTS on December 24, 2013, 08:40:03 AM: I'm getting rid of my Carbon Element, if you're interested
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: hillbilli on December 24, 2013, 09:01:01 AM: I got a newer bow this year.. and still have my old bow as a backup.. I upgraded because there is a 40fps diff in rated speed between my old bow and my new bow.. how much difference will there really be in your new bow?? and yes a little quieter is always a good thing..
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: loggerjim on December 24, 2013, 09:25:29 AM: I already have the carbon knight on order. Thanks anyway, those are great bows also.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: DaveBTS on December 24, 2013, 09:29:57 AM: I agree. Once you get the bug, it's hard to stop. I get a new bow every couple years.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: deltaops on December 24, 2013, 09:42:50 AM: I will be looking for a Bow after the Holiday season is over. I will take the PSE off your hands, just let me know. :chuckle: I just bought my son a 20 gauge pump so the funds are set back to zero.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: JPhelps on December 24, 2013, 09:52:54 AM: Do yourself a favor and shoot the new 2014 alien and nemesis. Martin has made some minor changes and both these bow should be shooters. Not only that you can walk out with a new sight, rest and stabilizer and still have money left over.

...and a bow that shoots just as good. :twocents:
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: Come Get Some on December 24, 2013, 12:00:07 PM: Quote from: JPhelps on December 24, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Do yourself a favor and shoot the new 2014 alien and nemesis. Martin has made some minor changes and both these bow should be shooters. Not only that you can walk out with a new sight, rest and stabilizer and still have money left over.

...and a bow that shoots just as good. :twocents:

Martin has not stayed with the pack. You will get what you pay for . Be carefull. In my opinion Minor changes are not enough. Guaranteed the Hoyt Carbon element,Matrix or Carbon spider will spoil you.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: JPhelps on December 24, 2013, 12:19:44 PM: When was the last time you shot one? What was wrong with it?

My 2013 nemesis 35 shot a 540 grain arrow at 280 FPS (not bad with a 7" BH). The draw is smooth (never had a problem with any other brands draw cycle either). The bow is as quiet as any other bow out there. The most important thing is it shoots where it is aimed (same exact hole repeatedly out of a mechanical shooter).

They have had some problems in the past with limbs and fit/finish. My 2012 and 2013 models have had zero issues. Last year my only complaint was the short solid roller guard that created too much cam lean. Martin has listened and went back to the slider and relocated it.

The big issue is that Martin doesn't spend enough money on advertisement to have you think they are as good as the others. :twocents: If I didn't trust that a certain bow would perform I wouldn't shoot it or recommend it.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: Crunchy on December 24, 2013, 12:58:04 PM: The top two in my opinion are Hoyt and Mathews. Others that might be good are PSE and Bowtech. I would look at a couple of bow shops in your area and shoot a few to get a better idea of what you like. You will see on your own what makes a good bow. You truly get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: deltaops on December 24, 2013, 01:08:50 PM: Quote from: Crunchy on December 24, 2013, 12:58:04 PM
The top two in my opinion are Hoyt and Mathews. Others that might be good are PSE and Bowtech. I would look at a couple of bow shops in your area and shoot a few to get a better idea of what you like. You will see on your own what makes a good bow. You truly get what you pay for.

I wish I had the money for the PSE Sportsman's Warehouse has on sale. 2013 PSEs for $299. My son almost didn't get his 20 Gauge for Christmas. :chuckle:
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Post by: washingtonmuley on December 24, 2013, 01:31:18 PM: Don't over look Limbsaver. I shoot a DZ32 and flat out love it. They are a washington company as well.
Title: Re: Do I need a new bow?
Post by: Come Get Some on December 24, 2013, 01:42:00 PM: Quote from: JPhelps on December 24, 2013, 12:19:44 PM
When was the last time you shot one? What was wrong with it?

My 2013 nemesis 35 shot a 540 grain arrow at 280 FPS (not bad with a 7" BH). The draw is smooth (never had a problem with any other brands draw cycle either). The bow is as quiet as any other bow out there. The most important thing is it shoots where it is aimed (same exact hole repeatedly out of a mechanical shooter).

They have had some problems in the past with limbs and fit/finish. My 2012 and 2013 models have had zero issues. Last year my only complaint was the short solid roller guard that created too much cam lean. Martin has listened and went back to the slider and relocated it.

The big issue is that Martin doesn't spend enough money on advertisement to have you think they are as good as the others. :twocents: If I didn't trust that a certain bow would perform I wouldn't shoot it or recommend it.

I have shot for Martin,PSE,Mathews and hoyt. Not a shop shooter!! Martins shoot ok. They have not been the most forgiving. It all depends on what your expectations are and the quality of shooter you are. I am pickier than most. As far as hunting bows go most major manufacturers bows will work for the average shooter. Every manufacturer has had problems of some kind over the years. Martin not only does not spend enough money on advertising but quality and finish. MY OPINION. You do not see many if any Martin bows making the cut at any world class events. Target is more precice and requires a different level of consistancy than bow hunting. Like I said most manufactures make an pretty good hunting set up for the average guy. It is all about expectations. Do you want to hit a paper plate or a 1/2" dot.