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Title: Knight Bighorn and No Excuses 460's + FFFg ?
Post by: mossback1971 on November 28, 2013, 08:44:52 PM
Happy Thanksgiving all... I just converted to a Williams peep and fire sight front hood sighting system. I'm shooting FFFg for the first time with the 460's ( I live in Oregon) and wanted to know if I need a wad or not? A good starting point would be 80g of powder or so? Thank you for the help, MossBack
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn and No Excuses 460's + FFFg ?
Post by: Sabotloader on November 28, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
Happy Thanksgiving all... I just converted to a Williams peep and fire sight front hood sighting system. I'm shooting FFFg for the first time with the 460's ( I live in Oregon) and wanted to know if I need a wad or not? A good starting point would be 80g of powder or so? Thank you for the help, MossBack

I shoo the same bullet over here in Idaho... I do use a wad actually a 'shot card' to keep the heat of t7 from melting the bottom of the bullet creating liquid lead in the bore.  BUT, today if I were shooting a 50 cal with a lead conical I would use a MMP 50 cal Sub-base... better seal and insulation against heat...

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FBridgeComposit.jpg&hash=12c9b9e035a19c002690de1fddf83ca48a5f2a20) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/BridgeComposit.jpg.html)

I shoot 90 grains of T7 - but most would tell you 70 works great...

Title: Re: Knight Bighorn and No Excuses 460's + FFFg ?
Post by: mossback1971 on November 28, 2013, 10:04:35 PM
I have never seen that before. I will look into it. What is a shot card?
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn and No Excuses 460's + FFFg ?
Post by: mossback1971 on November 28, 2013, 10:27:52 PM
I wonder if it legal to use in Oregon?
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn and No Excuses 460's + FFFg ?
Post by: Sabotloader on November 29, 2013, 05:16:01 AM
I wonder if it legal to use in Oregon?

I am not sure that they are... I thought I read something about no plastic in the Oregon rule.

It is illegal to hunt with non-lead bullets, jacketed bullets, sabots and bullets with plastic or synthetic bases during muzzleloader only seasons and 600 series hunts where there is a weapon restriction of shotgun/muzzleloader only or archery/muzzleloader only.  Conical lead or lead alloy bullets with a length that does not exceed twice the diameter and lead or lead alloy round balls used with
cloth, paper or felt patches are allowed.

Title: Re: Knight Bighorn and No Excuses 460's + FFFg ?
Post by: Sabotloader on November 29, 2013, 05:55:35 AM
I have never seen that before. I will look into it. What is a shot card?

A Shot Card is an over the powder card...

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trackofthewolf.com%2FimgPart%2Fwad-a_0.jpg&hash=e26160c80092276da3f435a39981b1ed00bac8d6)

This is the one I normally used..

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/172/2 (http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/172/2)

.510" diameter, ideal for .50 caliber rifles, .125" over powder card, 1000, by Circle Fly Wads
 WAD-510-A
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