Post by: Humptulips on November 29, 2013, 04:21:15 PM
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Here's what one of my cat sets look like from the road. Same place I caught this cat.
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Post by: Bigshooter on November 29, 2013, 05:08:21 PM
Post by: Humptulips on November 29, 2013, 05:17:24 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on November 29, 2013, 05:25:37 PM
Post by: trapperguy22 on November 29, 2013, 05:34:49 PM
Post by: hardkorrhunter on November 29, 2013, 06:19:29 PM
Post by: Machias on November 29, 2013, 06:21:07 PM
Post by: 3nails on November 29, 2013, 06:29:04 PM
Post by: hardkorrhunter on November 29, 2013, 06:31:31 PM
Post by: rasbo on November 29, 2013, 06:33:20 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on November 29, 2013, 06:57:19 PM
Post by: ouchfoss on November 29, 2013, 10:01:49 PM
Post by: Humptulips on November 29, 2013, 10:36:24 PM
I've got a question for the cat master. Is that one of the walk throughs and was it set upside down?
No, I built some single door traps for cats that have the same trigger as my double door traps. 10x18x42
Caught two civets in my new pipe traps I had at the Rendezvous this summer also. Co2 worked good on them. Feel like I hit a home run with that idea.
Post by: Humptulips on November 29, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
Is that a deer track in the first pic?
I think not. Hard to say what it is. :dunno: Deer are almost as rare as gold around here anymore. :chuckle:
Post by: bob maier on November 30, 2013, 05:51:57 AM
Post by: bwgdc on November 30, 2013, 10:36:29 AM
Post by: pnwmtnmn on November 30, 2013, 11:03:13 AM
Congrats bruce, gotta be careful out there. It seems as we get older its easier to get hurt.and lots slower to heal.
Post by: BullMagnet76 on November 30, 2013, 11:12:42 AM
Post by: saylean on November 30, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on November 30, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
Post by: Humptulips on November 30, 2013, 07:56:29 PM
Pretty pumped about my new civet traps and using CO2. Don't make a bit of smell.
Post by: Bigshooter on November 30, 2013, 08:41:21 PM
Post by: Humptulips on November 30, 2013, 09:13:14 PM
Is that a 2nd cat?
Yep
Post by: Bigshooter on November 30, 2013, 10:22:18 PM
Is that a 2nd cat?
Yep
Nice your off to a good start.
Post by: trapperguy22 on December 01, 2013, 07:47:10 AM
Post by: bob maier on December 01, 2013, 08:12:46 AM
Post by: Humptulips on December 01, 2013, 05:59:50 PM
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The working parts of the trap slide out to load bait or remove civet.(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0574_zpsf24888ff.jpg&hash=59fe5739b624f642061c669c2c7bced6aa7fa96f) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0574_zpsf24888ff.jpg.html)
Just set the trap and slide the working parts back in.I drilled a small hole in the PVC so I could wire the door frame to the pipe. I thought a civet might push it out. It is a pretty tight fit and found out the wire is not neccesary so I just push it in and good to go. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0575_zps2e57a265.jpg&hash=9676d9fe2cad754344bfc85d7598f4be39a8a421) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0575_zps2e57a265.jpg.html)
How it looks when set. Door is on the side. Pan on the bottom although you can't see it. When you make a catch just tip the trap up carefully. Remember you have a skunk in there! Then insert hose from CO2 bottle through door and crack the valve while you count to 30. Wait about 10 minutes and dump out dead civet.(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy137%2Fhumptulips%2FDSCN0576_zps45b9e18d.jpg&hash=204d809552ca0e3a955b28def8567ceae28e846d) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/humptulips/media/DSCN0576_zps45b9e18d.jpg.html)
Post by: Alpinist on December 02, 2013, 03:37:59 AM
Post by: Humptulips on December 02, 2013, 09:22:16 AM
Post by: KFhunter on December 02, 2013, 09:53:19 AM
they too fat for that setup - might need a 12" pipe :chuckle:
I just use water instead of CO2 but I wasn't putting up the fur that might change now though as I'm just bout all setup
Post by: Humptulips on December 02, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
I have been cracking the valve and counting to 30. The civet was unconsious today when I hit 20. I left him in for 10 minutes because I'm afraid of them coming back to life in my PU but I'm thinking now that is extra long.
Post by: saylean on December 02, 2013, 08:43:16 PM
I am just trapping on the property, but I would think I would at least get a coon! Grats again!
Post by: Humptulips on December 03, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
Even got a grouse with the trapline pistol. Pretty much a miracle as it is accurate out to about 6" :chuckle:. It's what's for dinner, tomorrow.
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Post by: trapperguy22 on December 04, 2013, 03:05:44 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 04, 2013, 03:32:24 AM
Post by: Machias on December 04, 2013, 03:50:51 AM
Post by: bob maier on December 04, 2013, 04:33:28 AM
Post by: Humptulips on December 04, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
Nice!! All that fleshing with loosen that shoulder up...that is until you wake up tomorrow. :)
Skinning has not been easy. I put some stuff in the freezer whole. I think I will regret this in the future. I had to skin the stuff last night though. Beaver and civet were Ok but the otter I had a hard time with.
Not sure about the loosening up theory but this morning was not good.
Post by: Machias on December 04, 2013, 06:06:03 PM
Post by: Humptulips on December 15, 2013, 11:42:42 AM
Fisher!
This may be the first fisher trapped in WA in 40 years. I haven't heard of anyone else getting one anyway.
Forgive the poor photography. Only one very good picture.
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I missed it takeing off when the door was opened. I'm never fast enough with the camera. Ouchfoss was with me though and he videoed it. Maybe he can figure out how to post it.
No damage to the trap as you can see and it was pretty easy to release. I was worried it might be feisty as I have heard of their reputation. In fact I put a blanket over the trap for a place for it to hide when I was opening the door and it wouldn't leave until I removed the blanket.
It was smaller then my first impression. I'd say the size of a small otter and close to that shape only a lot longer fur. Black tail and gray face, pretty black body but with a trace of brown.
Post by: lokidog on December 15, 2013, 11:58:13 AM
Post by: 3nails on December 15, 2013, 11:58:42 AM
Post by: jasnt on December 15, 2013, 11:59:47 AM
Post by: hardkorrhunter on December 15, 2013, 12:04:39 PM
Post by: bigelk1030 on December 15, 2013, 12:08:27 PM
Post by: ouchfoss on December 15, 2013, 12:42:03 PM
Olympic penninsula fisher release (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnXd_ys5mHU#ws)
Post by: Carp Commander on December 15, 2013, 01:42:11 PM
That's what I have always loved about trapping, there's a new story to tell everyday!
Doug
Post by: Machias on December 15, 2013, 02:47:57 PM
Post by: ouchfoss on December 15, 2013, 03:19:07 PM
Olympic penninsula fisher release (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upsTcX69aOg#ws)
Post by: Ebell on December 17, 2013, 01:26:24 PM
Eric
Post by: headshot5 on December 17, 2013, 01:38:55 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civet_cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civet_cat)
Post by: ouchfoss on December 17, 2013, 03:05:18 PM
Post by: Alpinist on December 17, 2013, 05:15:20 PM
I'm just curious as to why the western spotted skunk is referred to as a civet?
Civet is also widely used as a common name for the Eastern Spotted Skunk. The name comes from the French civette, and refers to the yellowish anal gland secretion of certain Asian and African mammals used in making perfume. Those animals were known as civets long before American spotted skunks were discovered by European settlers. The anal gland secretion of spotted skunks is also used in making perfume, so the name civet was applied to them as well.
Post by: Humptulips on December 17, 2013, 07:16:12 PM
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I only have 6 traps left out now and will pick them up soon and move my line. Engine check light came on on my pickup today so that may put a crimp in my trapping. Getting it looked at tomorrow.
Some other stuff I caught today.
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small otter
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Post by: lokidog on December 17, 2013, 07:31:22 PM
That's pretty cool, nice bobcat as well, and an otter? can't tell in the pick.
Post by: bearpaw on December 17, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 17, 2013, 07:35:06 PM
Post by: Humptulips on December 17, 2013, 07:46:22 PM
Should have put a green spray paint dot on the first one's head, maybe he's following you. :chuckle:
That's pretty cool, nice bobcat as well, and an otter? can't tell in the pick.
Yes an otter, small one. Second otter at that set. Took one there 6 days ago.
Have you trapped any of them in the past? Nice pics and videos. I saw one in the early 90s up Suatttle river valley.
The last fisher I have heard being trapped in WA prior to these was in the 70s on Fort Lewis. Fisher were reintroduced on the Olympic Penninsula starting in January 2008. There were 90 released over three years.
Post by: Carp Commander on December 17, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
Have you notified anyone with the WDFW about the catches. I'm curious what they would have to say about it.
Doug
Post by: Humptulips on December 17, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Bruce,
Have you notified anyone with the WDFW about the catches. I'm curious what they would have to say about it.
Doug
Nope, haven't called them.
Post by: onetrapper on December 17, 2013, 08:47:36 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on December 17, 2013, 08:54:49 PM
Post by: Humptulips on December 17, 2013, 08:57:30 PM
Post by: Alpinist on December 18, 2013, 03:04:23 AM
If the reintroduction program in WA is as successful as in some other states it may be possible to open a limited season on fishers in a few counties in less than 10 years. That's something to look forward to. Fishers are great furbearers and easy to trap in cages.
Post by: trapperguy22 on December 18, 2013, 08:01:01 AM
Did either of them have quills in them? Every fisher I have caught in wi. Had quills in them. They are the only natural predator of the porky pine that's why they were Reintroduced I to wi. In the 60's and they are everywhere there now.
Post by: Machias on December 18, 2013, 09:26:55 AM
Post by: ouchfoss on December 18, 2013, 10:11:19 AM
You should have bought a mega millions ticket last night, luck seems to be following you.
Post by: jasnt on December 18, 2013, 10:47:16 AM
Post by: Humptulips on December 18, 2013, 08:53:47 PM
Fisher #2 looks larger than the first. Is that right, Bruce? Judging by the shape of the head I would guess it to be a male of at least 3-4 years. It could have been one of the fishers released a few years ago. Fisher #1 looks like a much younger male or female and may have been born on the peninsula. I'm really surprised WDFW hasn't reached out to trappers around the release area for help in monitoring the success of the reintroduction program. At the very least I would expect them to request hair samples from each captured fisher for genetic testing.
If the reintroduction program in WA is as successful as in some other states it may be possible to open a limited season on fishers in a few counties in less than 10 years. That's something to look forward to. Fishers are great furbearers and easy to trap in cages.
Yes #2 looked bigger and it looked older to me. As far as sex and weight I really couldn't say. You could well be right but myself having seen only two and not actually touching them I haven't a clue.
The reintroduction program is likely to take a long time. When they were planning it the idea was to introduce to the Olympics and if successful then the South Cascades. If they became well established in both areas they would talk about delisting. WDFW was not the lead agency on this. Conservation NorthWest put up some seed money but The Park Service financed most of this.
WSTA years ago tried to get WDFW to do a reintroduction but they would not put any money into it. A reintroduction in the South Cascades is probably dependent on getting some money from the Feds.
That is why I think a trapping season on them may be a long time coming. They are travelers though and if they are successful they might spread on their own. I would sure like to hear someone report one off the Penninsula. They basically spread to all corners of the Penninsula in the first year according to the telemetry so I can readily see them in the Capitol Forest soon. I think the Chehalis R is a major obstacle though so it may be awhile before they get farther south. All my own opinion.
Bruce,
Did either of them have quills in them? Every fisher I have caught in wi. Had quills in them. They are the only natural predator of the porky pine that's why they were Reintroduced I to wi. In the 60's and they are everywhere there now.
Ha, it's not like I examined them close but no. Porkys are just about non-existant up here anyway.
I can just imagine Bruce walking up to that closed cage, looking inside and saying "are you kidding me". :chuckle:
You should have bought a mega millions ticket last night, luck seems to be following you.
Where's the luck in that? Maybe cool but that doesn't pay my mechanics bill which came to $1641 today.
Anyone want to calculate how many civet cats that is? :dunno:
Post by: Machias on December 19, 2013, 03:55:19 AM
Post by: onetrapper on December 19, 2013, 08:36:26 AM
Post by: MooseZ25 on December 19, 2013, 08:45:27 AM
Post by: Whitpirate on December 19, 2013, 09:26:35 AM
Post by: Turner89 on December 21, 2013, 11:18:41 AM
Post by: Humptulips on December 21, 2013, 04:32:29 PM
Pretty good stuff :tup: What elevation do Fisher normally live in?
From the telemetry they had on the collared ones it looked like any elevation. They did seem to end up along the coast and the lower river valleys but I think that is where the food is. They had some hanging in the high Olympics too.
Post by: Humptulips on December 26, 2013, 08:16:26 PM
I officially suck. I haven't been catching anything except the occasional civet. No sprung traps or anything, just nothing happening.
So just when you think things can't get worse they do. Had my first cat trap stolen today. :mgun2: :mor:
Only thing to lessen the pain it was one of the first traps I made and was pretty much a clunker. I been thinking about junking it, now I won't have to. Still makes me mad.
Unlikely spot to get it stolen too. I think they must have had a dog to find it. Stolen on Christmas I guess.
"Peace on earth good will towards men" Not so much right now.
Post by: big wood on December 26, 2013, 08:30:12 PM
Post by: Trapper John on December 26, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
I hate Trap Thieves. The worst I think is that the one that took it is always another trapper. :sry:
Maybe this will make you feel better but I've been sick for a week now. I had to go out and pull my traps a few days back :bash: that didn't help me out any either just made me more sicker. I'll be back soon I hope.
JC
Post by: Humptulips on December 26, 2013, 09:20:40 PM
Post by: Machias on December 27, 2013, 06:12:25 AM
Post by: Humptulips on January 01, 2014, 09:53:47 AM
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This will probably be the last picture I'll post here. My father has been getting increasingly worse and takeing more of my time. I finally have decided I can't trap and take care of him both so the trapping is done. Had my sister look after him while I picked up all the traps yesterday. Well, I left a couple out that are close but after last night I think they will be gone today.
Post by: 3nails on January 01, 2014, 10:24:08 AM
Post by: lokidog on January 01, 2014, 10:31:04 AM
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Post by: saylean on January 01, 2014, 02:19:26 PM
Post by: Trapper John on January 02, 2014, 08:13:17 PM
JC