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Other Hunting => Waterfowl => Topic started by: seth30 on December 02, 2013, 10:19:21 AM
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Going in to work this morning, this guys truck catches my attention. Not sure if this is illegal or not, but sure is in bad taste and does nothing good for the hunting community.
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not a good call on that guys part. just feeding the flames for the antis
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Not very cool.
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:yike: :bdid: Very bad form. Most of the folks don't really care if we hunt until they see something like that. That display does nothing but create more anti hunters. Very bad taste.
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Stuff like that looks bad even to those of us that hunt.... :tdown:
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What a jerk. If you see that guy again, please say something.
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We have had similar discussions about big game and the way it or parts of it are displayed on vehicles and if i remember correctly its our God given right since we kill stuff and the anti's can just deal with it :chuckle:...or something along those lines..
I think it is in poor taste.. :twocents:
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We have had similar discussions about big game and the way it or parts of it are displayed on vehicles and if i remember correctly its our God given right since we kill stuff and the anti's can just deal with it :chuckle:...or something along those lines..
I think it is in poor taste.. :twocents:
Yeah, I think if I saw someone with a stack of deer heads on their truck, we'd have a problem.
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Go place a note on his window. Not a smart move, probably some 20 something kids with more ego than brains.
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:yike: :bdid: Very bad form. Most of the folks don't really care if we hunt until they see something like that. That display does nothing but create more anti hunters. Very bad taste.
:yeah: :yike: :yike:
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Post a pic of the entire rig and license. That seems to work. :chuckle: Word may get back to him quickly.
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Post a pic of the entire rig and license. That seems to work. :chuckle: Word may get back to him quickly.
Base security is already been notified, someone thought it was a health hazard and called it in. :tup:
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What the heck is on that antenna, I can't make it out?
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I think they are duck butts.
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duck heads
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That is enough to make you sick! So much for respect for the bird! Real sportsman there. :bdid:
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duck heads
:yeah: I had to look hard to make out the bills. Killing them is fine, but that is demeaning the bird after it is dead. Inexcusable, in my book...
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pretty sad for sure. i will never understand what the point of that kind of crap is all about
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Should call fish and wildlife. People like that generally do other stupid things in the woods.
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I'm gonna guess he's under 27 and thinks it's cool. :twocents:
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while it does make us look bad whats right and wrong is different to each person, if you want to speak your mind to individuals like this, by all means please do. Now snitching, taddle telling, come on boys that's little inner city *censored*fied lib stuff
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Post a pic of the entire rig and license. That seems to work. :chuckle: Word may get back to him quickly.
Base security is already been notified, someone thought it was a health hazard and called it in. :tup:
somebody's commander is not going to like this... :dunno:
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Post a pic of the entire rig and license. That seems to work. :chuckle: Word may get back to him quickly.
Base security is already been notified, someone thought it was a health hazard and called it in. :tup:
somebody's commander is not going to like this... :dunno:
Yeah I bet. The person that called it in approached me first, they thought it was my rig. First there is no way I would own a dodge and second there is no way I would disrespect the sport like this :bash:
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Post a pic of the entire rig and license. That seems to work. :chuckle: Word may get back to him quickly.
Base security is already been notified, someone thought it was a health hazard and called it in. :tup:
somebody's commander is not going to like this... :dunno:
Yeah I bet. The person that called it in approached me first, they thought it was my rig. First there is no way I would own a dodge and second there is no way I would disrespect the sport like this :bash:
Watch the Dodge thing.... ;) Hopefully, you let the person asking if it was you know that as a hunter you were also offended by this.
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Yep I let him know right away this was not a normal thing for a hunter to do.
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If it was on base I'm assuming it was probally a jo :chuckle:
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Not cool! Hopefully this person gets talked to and helped to understand ethics.
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Should call fish and wildlife. People like that generally do other stupid things in the woods.
And they would do what exactly? What he's done, while unethical and insensitive, is not illegal. They'd have no PC to check him for anything else.
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Why do people feel they always have to call the WDFW or the cops for something like this ? I think people should mind their own business and keep their traps shut. We have the Nazi police on here and then they want to control, complain and bitch about other peoples actions outside of this forum, grow up and leave people alone for once. Flame away on me because I don't care. It's irritating as hell to me.
Start complaining about all the Obama bumper stickers too, while you're at it.......... talk about a disgrace.
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A disgrace? Look, if someone wants to put duck heads on a pole and put it in their living room and look at them all day go for it, but if someone cuts off a bunch of duck heads and tallies around town with them and putting them in peoples faces that don't want to see it, then you get what is coming to you. I you want to smoke, by all means go for it but if you blow that SHEET in my face, I promise you will have a problem. What is you limit Campmeat? You cant just go around doing what you want and put it in peoples faces and make them deal with it, it just don't work that way. Seth30 wasn't going out of his way to find this, it found him, he has the right to go about his day and not see that.
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A disgrace? Look, if someone wants to put duck heads on a pole and put it in their living room and look at them all day go for it, but if someone cuts off a bunch of duck heads and tallies around town with them and putting them in peoples faces that don't want to see it, then you get what is coming to you. I you want to smoke, by all means go for it but if you blow that SHEET in my face, I promise you will have a problem. What is you limit Campmeat? You cant just go around doing what you want and put it in peoples faces and make them deal with it, it just don't work that way. Seth30 wasn't going out of his way to find this, it found him, he has the right to go about his day and not see that.
My limit is when other people tell me what I can and can't do. It's none of their business. They could say something to me, if I did it, but, I'd tell them to, well, you know. I don't live by others feelings. I'm a free man and I think and do what I want and I don't need anyone butting into my business. How's that ? In the GOOD ol' days before all this pc crap, we used to put our elk heads on our trucks and parade them around like a prize, which it was and still is. :tup:
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You cant just go around doing what you want and put it in peoples faces and make them deal with it, it just don't work that way. Seth30 wasn't going out of his way to find this, it found him, he has the right to go about his day and not see that.
Actually, if what you're doing is legal, you bet you can. By this logic, there would be no snow goose hunting on Fir Island because the bird watchers have a right to go about their day watching birds without seeing them being shot.
Is this guy an idiot and are his actions completely unethical, yes, but since what he has done is legal, there's nothing anyone can do about it, besides shame him for the act.
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:yeah:PC crap! Although I would not reconmend anyone thread duck heads on their antenna, it's still legal and his biz. His truck and it's not getting rubbed into anyone's face. Nothing to be ashamed of when you think about it :twocents:
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A disgrace? Look, if someone wants to put duck heads on a pole and put it in their living room and look at them all day go for it, but if someone cuts off a bunch of duck heads and tallies around town with them and putting them in peoples faces that don't want to see it, then you get what is coming to you. I you want to smoke, by all means go for it but if you blow that SHEET in my face, I promise you will have a problem. What is you limit Campmeat? You cant just go around doing what you want and put it in peoples faces and make them deal with it, it just don't work that way. Seth30 wasn't going out of his way to find this, it found him, he has the right to go about his day and not see that.
My limit is when other people tell me what I can and can't do. It's none of their business. They could say something to me, if I did it, but, I'd tell them to, well, you know. I don't live by others feelings. I'm a free man and I think and do what I want and I don't need anyone butting into my business. How's that ? In the GOOD ol' days before all this pc crap, we used to put our elk heads on our trucks and parade them around like a prize, which it was and still is. :tup:
Me and you are not that far away from our opinions, we are just miles away on how we conduct business. Do I think it is wrong to put duck heads on your truck, NO. But I understand that I am gaining nothing by parading them around to show others. Stuff like this is done with no other reason than to show off. If you want to be proud of yourself and your accomplishments in the field then do it, but my personal satisfaction comes from within, I don't need publicity from others that look at my dead animals and use that as a sense of belonging. HOWS THAT
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A disgrace? Look, if someone wants to put duck heads on a pole and put it in their living room and look at them all day go for it, but if someone cuts off a bunch of duck heads and tallies around town with them and putting them in peoples faces that don't want to see it, then you get what is coming to you. I you want to smoke, by all means go for it but if you blow that SHEET in my face, I promise you will have a problem. What is you limit Campmeat? You cant just go around doing what you want and put it in peoples faces and make them deal with it, it just don't work that way. Seth30 wasn't going out of his way to find this, it found him, he has the right to go about his day and not see that.
My limit is when other people tell me what I can and can't do. It's none of their business. They could say something to me, if I did it, but, I'd tell them to, well, you know. I don't live by others feelings. I'm a free man and I think and do what I want and I don't need anyone butting into my business. How's that ? In the GOOD ol' days before all this pc crap, we used to put our elk heads on our trucks and parade them around like a prize, which it was and still is. :tup:
Me and you are not that far away from our opinions, we are just miles away on how we conduct business. Do I think it is wrong to put duck heads on your truck, NO. But I understand that I am gaining nothing by parading them around to show others. Stuff like this is done with no other reason than to show off. If you want to be proud of yourself and your accomplishments in the field then do it, but my personal satisfaction comes from within, I don't need publicity from others that look at my dead animals and use that as a sense of belonging. HOWS THAT
Sounds OK to me. HOW'S THAT ?
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To shoot that many Ducks is admirable. To stack their heads on your truck antenna is stupid and insensitive to others that see them. Illegal? No, but Dumb, Yes! :twocents:
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Looks like an unsecure load to me. Could blow off the antenna at anytime. :IBCOOL:
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Looks like an unsecure load to me. Could blow off the antenna at anytime. :IBCOOL:
Nice.
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Yeah, watch the Dodge thing.
Respect for your quarry is severely neglected during hunter education. Instead they learn more about green stuff.
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Back when I was in highschool I had a rabbit head on ny cb antenna. About a month later I asked myself what the hell I was doing and took it off. Probably some young guy.
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Campmeat is right. Also....its not much different than hanging heads on the wall, or the garage. Its not much different than wearing a fur coat, or snakeskin boots, its not much different than a bearskin rug. Hypocrites all over this post. Just because your own little details differ doesnt kean your not displaying your kill or a dead animal at least.
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If you respect the animal or not is a personal thing and its not for others to decide.
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Well ....that will be the 1st I ever saw that :yike: Idiot ! :yeah:
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I see zero respect for the game that was harvested,yeah yeah yeah,free country ,not illegal..Its not illegal to let a door shut on a person behind you,or pass someone that needs help,to say thank you,you see where Im going here....poor taste,perhaps they will grow out of that.. :twocents:
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Do you know what command this truck is parked at? I will be more than gladly to give his command and Lpo a call...
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Campmeat is right. Also....its not much different than hanging heads on the wall, or the garage. Its not much different than wearing a fur coat, or snakeskin boots, its not much different than a bearskin rug. Hypocrites all over this post. Just because your own little details differ doesnt kean your not displaying your kill or a dead animal at least.
I don't see any comparison from a taxidermy mount on the wall and dead duck parts on your antenna. Completely different in regards to being respectfull about the animals we kill.
To me the truck duck is a shamfull display and shows this person and hunters in general in a bad light.
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This guy puts all of his duck heads on his antenna, he's obviously not that great of a hunter. Looks like he's got about 10ish birds so far this season. :chuckle:
I hope to god he's not a fisherman, you could smell him coming a mile away :puke:
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Campmeat is right. Also....its not much different than hanging heads on the wall, or the garage. Its not much different than wearing a fur coat, or snakeskin boots, its not much different than a bearskin rug. Hypocrites all over this post. Just because your own little details differ doesnt kean your not displaying your kill or a dead animal at least.
I can't believe you are trying to draw parallels between these and putting duck heads on a vehicle antenna, but whatever floats your boat.
Hopefully this guy's poor taste is more a result of immaturity than pure stupidity.
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Why do people feel they always have to call the WDFW or the cops for something like this ? I think people should mind their own business and keep their traps shut. We have the Nazi police on here and then they want to control, complain and bitch about other peoples actions outside of this forum, grow up and leave people alone for once. Flame away on me because I don't care. It's irritating as hell to me.
Start complaining about all the Obama bumper stickers too, while you're at it.......... talk about a disgrace.
Because if we dont then the antis will! How hard is it to understand? Who cares if you disagree with it? Not me! Do you think the antis just sit back and let this crap slide like you would? You bet your hind parts they are makin the call when they see this junk.
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Hey, I’ll defend this guy’s right to be a retard hick all day long. But we need to put a better image out into the world for our sport. Hunting used to be a genteel activity for intelligent and educated gentlemen. Think Teddy Roosevelt and Earnest Hemingway. We should do everything we can to return that image. So let’s retire the truck nuts and the camo skoal cans and stop impaling duck heads on our cars.
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If he's in the military, he has the responsibility to fit the bill of the top percentage of the nation. While there may not be particular regulation about stacking heads on a truck, his NCO's (if he is a joe) should take care of him pretty quick.
You who have not served may think looks do not matter. The reality is that when you serve, you understand that people are watching what you do everywhere you go.
Curtis
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Correct. As a military person, you are expected to conduct yourself professionally both on duty and off. You are always in the public eye and a representative of the United States.
Sent from my flux capacitor.
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Maybe he found that his radio gets better reception with every duck head added. :dunno:
:P
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Maybe his favorite radio station is KWAK fm... :chuckle:
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Hey, I’ll defend this guy’s right to be a retard hick all day long. But we need to put a better image out into the world for our sport. Hunting used to be a genteel activity for intelligent and educated gentlemen. Think Teddy Roosevelt and Earnest Hemingway. We should do everything we can to return that image. So let’s retire the truck nuts and the camo skoal cans and stop impaling duck heads on our cars.
I'd say that is one aspect of hunting, a very very small aspect but one aspect of it to be sure.
"red neck" hunters still far outnumber the "intelligent and educated" gentlemen :chuckle:
pompous much? :rolleyes:
If he's military he needs those things off his rig post haste - or never go on base with it or wear a uniform while in the rig.
I'm sure he thought it pretty clever, perhaps his dad will see it and smuck him upside the head, or a hot chick will be all over him then see that crap on his antenna and ditch him :chuckle:
I did the same thing but with coyote and raccoon tails in high school - is that really any different?
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So, as a military person, he is paid help kill people in thier own coutries, but he has to hide a few ducks he killed in his own county. Thats some messed up logic right there.
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i think he is just exercising his right to display a duck totem on his own property :tup: A few years ago nobody thought twice about mounting their deer or elk head on their bumper,and then all of a sudden someone said it offends non hunters. PC all the way now :rolleyes:, personally i miss seeing a big elk head tied to someones winch driving through town :twocents:
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So, as a military person, he is paid help kill people in thier own coutries, but he has to hide a few ducks he killed in his own county. Thats some messed up logic right there.
The type of people we're dealing with overseas aren't the type of people you think they are. I'll absolutely bestow more honor onto a duck than any member of Al Qaeda.
Thanks,
Curtis
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So, as a military person, he is paid help kill people in thier own coutries, but he has to hide a few ducks he killed in his own county. Thats some messed up logic right there.
The type of people we're dealing with overseas aren't the type of people you think they are. I'll absolutely bestow more honor onto a duck than any member of Al Qaeda.
Thanks,
Curtis
A person in a military uniform is no longer a person as an individual but an ambassador for the USA - if you don't get that then you don't belong in a uniform.
Same with cops for their city/state/county
same for uniformed federal officers
same for firefighters
Anyone in a uniform looses their self identity, even a school kid required to have a uniform.
That's the whole purpose of a uniform. It has to be that way or you'll get some jackwad enforcing laws based upon their own since of morality and prejudices, it doesn't work.
Do you want pulled over because you have an Obama sticker on your car?
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If he's in the military, he has the responsibility to fit the bill of the top percentage of the nation. While there may not be particular regulation about stacking heads on a truck, his NCO's (if he is a joe) should take care of him pretty quick.
You who have not served may think looks do not matter. The reality is that when you serve, you understand that people are watching what you do everywhere you go.
Curtis
What makes you think he isn't an NCO or Senior NCO?
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So, as a military person, he is paid help kill people in thier own coutries, but he has to hide a few ducks he killed in his own county. Thats some messed up logic right there.
So you think being in the military and serving overseas gives one a pass from common decency or ethics? Not great logic there, yourself. The answer, by the way, is no, they don't get a pass. When you're a hunter, it benefits all hunters when you present yourself in a positive light. I detracts from all hunters when you disrespect the animals you've killed and fail to show sensitivity to those unfamiliar.
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Piano man, its only an OPINION that what he did is unethical. And since its an OPINION and not aand law, then it a personal thing and you can take it or leave it. He is not, nor are the rest of us obligated to uphold someone elses imaginary ethics. Military or not, unless there is a specific rule against that i think this is just a buch of big city Political correctnes. Pandering to the sissy crowd. Looks like he had a good day.
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unfortunately the big city sissy crowd is the largest block of voters in this state. A few pictures of bear cubs convinced them to take away hounds/bait.
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So, as a military person, he is paid help kill people in thier own coutries, but he has to hide a few ducks he killed in his own county. Thats some messed up logic right there.
The type of people we're dealing with overseas aren't the type of people you think they are. I'll absolutely bestow more honor onto a duck than any member of Al Qaeda.
Thanks,
Curtis
The military was not deployed to the middle east because yhe people there are bad. Please read about Smedley Butler and the book he wrote called "War is a Racket". Wars are fought over resources, money and power. Not because they are bad guys. It is a criminal act to kill people for money and its not a criminal act to defend your family, home, country, life and culture. With obama calling the shots you cant honestly believe whats going on over there is noble. It is noble to fight for freedom and honor. To fight for the weak. It is not noble to fight against the weak, on thier turf, for a few dollars, just so some bankers can make money. Please read the book and get up to speed.. i believe smedley butler was a two time medal of honor winner.
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Piano man, its only an OPINION that what he did is unethical. And since its an OPINION and not aand law, then it a personal thing and you can take it or leave it. He is not, nor are the rest of us obligated to uphold someone elses imaginary ethics. Military or not, unless there is a specific rule against that i think this is just a buch of big city Political correctnes. Pandering to the sissy crowd. Looks like he had a good day.
You are also allowed to go pretty much anywhere with a t-shirt that says "fark off". Freedon of speech. Just because it isn't agains the law doesn't mean it simply shouldn't be done. Why? Not because of the sissy crowd. Because it is simply common sense to most of us.
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unfortunately the big city sissy crowd is the largest block of voters in this state. A few pictures of bear cubs convinced them to take away hounds/bait.
Very true statement....... :tup:
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So, as a military person, he is paid help kill people in thier own coutries, but he has to hide a few ducks he killed in his own county. Thats some messed up logic right there.
The type of people we're dealing with overseas aren't the type of people you think they are. I'll absolutely bestow more honor onto a duck than any member of Al Qaeda.
Thanks,
Curtis
The military was not deployed to the middle east because yhe people there are bad. Please read about Smedley Butler and the book he wrote called "War is a Racket". Wars are fought over resources, money and power. Not because they are bad guys. It is a criminal act to kill people for money and its not a criminal act to defend your family, home, country, life and culture. With obama calling the shots you cant honestly believe whats going on over there is noble. It is noble to fight for freedom and honor. To fight for the weak. It is not noble to fight against the weak, on thier turf, for a few dollars, just so some bankers can make money. Please read the book and get up to speed.. i believe smedley butler was a two time medal of honor winner.
I can't tell if you agree with the points I'm making or if you disagree. Are you staying with the relevant conversation or is this going to turn into another argument of rambling irrelevance?
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Piano man, its only an OPINION that what he did is unethical. And since its an OPINION and not aand law, then it a personal thing and you can take it or leave it. He is not, nor are the rest of us obligated to uphold someone elses imaginary ethics. Military or not, unless there is a specific rule against that i think this is just a buch of big city Political correctnes. Pandering to the sissy crowd. Looks like he had a good day.
Actually, it's more than opinion and it's hardly imaginary. It's taught in our Hunter Education classes. Be careful how you display your kills. It affects the public opinion of the value of hunting for our society. It has little to do with political correctness and everything to do with keeping our sport accepted by the public so we can secure its place for future generations.
Are you of the opinion that taking the heads off ducks and skewering them on your truck antennae is ethical and you should do it?
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I would think before too long those duck heads would be considered a health hazard and transporting them like that would technically be illegal. But prior to that it is just an eyesore.
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I would think before too long those duck heads would be considered a health hazard and transporting them like that would technically be illegal. But prior to that it is just an eyesore.
I am going to assume like you that the individual did not have them prepared by a taxidermist.
But what if he/she did and displayed them as such? :dunno:
I find it Ironic that we think displaying large racks attached to animal heads is just fine or flying mounts of ducks even the dead duck strap mounts etc..
But this is over the top?
P.S. I don't like dead duck strap mounts we shouldn't do those anymore they will impact public opinion.
Speaking of public opinion.. How is it that same tree hugging public goes into Cabelas to take pictures of themselves with all the mounts in there? :dunno:
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I won't infringe on anyone's right to be a redneck, but if they're in uniform and in that truck, or parking it on base, then the consequences of using those rights come to play.
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I am going to assume like you that the individual did not have them prepared by a taxidermist.
But what if he/she did and displayed them as such? :dunno:
I find it Ironic that we think displaying large racks attached to animal heads is just fine or flying mounts of ducks even the dead duck strap mounts etc..
But this is over the top?
P.S. I don't like dead duck strap mounts we shouldn't do those anymore they will impact public opinion.
Speaking of public opinion.. How is it that same tree hugging public goes into Cabelas to take pictures of themselves with all the mounts in there?
Deer and duck taxidermy mounts are displayed in ones private home or store. People are choosing to accept that there are taxidermied animals in the place while visiting. While doing what this person did is not illegal it is clearly disrespectful to the animal and tasteless. It does no good for hunters and sportsman, it only casts a negative light on the activity and draws additional negative criticism to those who already dislike hunting.
Please stop comparing a tastefully done, professional mount to shish kabobing dead duck heads to an antenna. If that is the best argument that you can come up with to justify this persons disrespectful and distasteful actions it's a bit sad. We should all do our best to cast hunting and fishing in the most positive light as possible in order to maintain the activities that we all love. We should all be conscious of our actions both while in the field as well as out of the field and how outsiders perceive them.
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Speaking of public opinion.. How is it that same tree hugging public goes into Cabelas to take pictures of themselves with all the mounts in there? :dunno:
Do you really not see the difference between a tasteful piece of taxidermy and a bunch of rotting duck heads spiked onto a truck antenna?
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beat me by 10 seconds Holg
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For those of the "by golly it ain't against the law and I'll be doing what I want and the pot smoking gay love supporting sissy folk can't tell ME what to do because well I can and you can't stop me".
You are right....we, your fellow hunting peers that are supposed to have your back simply don't when you pull this kind of crap. And those "sissy" people that vote....well they are the majority and STUNTS like this will simply give them that much more of a reason to stop you from shootin those ducks.
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I would think before too long those duck heads would be considered a health hazard and transporting them like that would technically be illegal. But prior to that it is just an eyesore.
I am going to assume like you that the individual did not have them prepared by a taxidermist.
But what if he/she did and displayed them as such? :dunno:
I find it Ironic that we think displaying large racks attached to animal heads is just fine or flying mounts of ducks even the dead duck strap mounts etc..
But this is over the top?
P.S. I don't like dead duck strap mounts we shouldn't do those anymore they will impact public opinion.
Speaking of public opinion.. How is it that same tree hugging public goes into Cabelas to take pictures of themselves with all the mounts in there? :dunno:
So, are you saying that you take these large mounted heads or taxi ducks and run them around town on your truck? Or, are they displayed in someone's home? There's no irony at all. There's not even a comparison.
I'm not sure what you consider the "tree-hugging public", but mounted animals inside a store which sells hunting and fishing equipment is far different than killing ducks, severing their heads, and skewering them on your vehicle's antennae. I have a really hard time believing that you don't see a difference.
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Duck Dynasty is the problem.........better ban that show sissy folk ! :chuckle:
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I people think he was military, he'd have stickers on his ride for admittance to the base, right ? No mention of them little buggers.......
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Duck Dynasty is the problem.........better ban that show sissy folk ! :chuckle:
I've never seen those guys disrespect their game with this kind of display. They may be rednecks but they value the critters they hunt more than that as far as I can tell. :dunno:
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I people think he was military, he'd have stickers on his ride for admittance to the base, right ? No mention of them little buggers.......
With the angle of the photo you couldn't see if it had them or the color sticker.
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After looking at the shish kabob of heads I think he got his limit.
Might be his first!!!
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I people think he was military, he'd have stickers on his ride for admittance to the base, right ? No mention of them little buggers.......
With the angle of the photo you couldn't see if it had them or the color sticker.
They would be on the other side.
Marrying another man and smoking pot at our wedding is now legal - doesn't mean I'm going to do it :bdid:
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Duck Dynasty is the problem.........better ban that show sissy folk ! :chuckle:
I've never seen those guys disrespect their game with this kind of display. They may be rednecks but they value the critters they hunt more than that as far as I can tell. :dunno:
Geeze Pman........always something with you. I was a joke son, it was a joke. :dunno:
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For those of the "by golly it ain't against the law and I'll be doing what I want and the pot smoking gay love supporting sissy folk can't tell ME what to do because well I can and you can't stop me".
You are right....we, your fellow hunting peers that are supposed to have your back simply don't when you pull this kind of crap. And those "sissy" people that vote....well they are the majority and STUNTS like this will simply give them that much more of a reason to stop you from shootin those ducks.
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With "friends" like duck boy, who needs enemies?
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Duck Dynasty is the problem.........better ban that show sissy folk ! :chuckle:
I've never seen those guys disrespect their game with this kind of display. They may be rednecks but they value the critters they hunt more than that as far as I can tell. :dunno:
Geeze Pman........always something with you. I was a joke son, it was a joke. :dunno:
Sorry CM, I missed it.
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Those 5.7 liter Hemi's really guzzle that fuel. :twocents:
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I people think he was military, he'd have stickers on his ride for admittance to the base, right ? No mention of them little buggers.......
With the angle of the photo you couldn't see if it had them or the color sticker.
They would be on the other side.
Marrying another man and smoking pot at our wedding is now legal - doesn't mean I'm going to do it :bdid:
I thought you wanted to stick to the point of the original post, and now your talking about being gay and smoking pot. Please be consistant.
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Duck Dynasty is the problem.........better ban that show sissy folk ! :chuckle:
I've never seen those guys disrespect their game with this kind of display. They may be rednecks but they value the critters they hunt more than that as far as I can tell. :dunno:
Geeze Pman........always something with you. I was a joke son, it was a joke. :dunno:
Sorry CM, I missed it.
That's ok. You're still good in my book. :tup:
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Looks like he's over his limit of hens too. Maybe you should turn him in to WDFW and get some points.
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Dead animals have been on display for thousands of years. Even today, people wear elk ivory jewelry,......they wear fur coats and snakeskin boots. Rattlesnake hat bands. I once saw a couch made from ostrich skin. I have seen dead coyotes hanging on fence posts, i have put them there myself and do not regret it. I have seen ink pens with feathers and i have seen coonskin and other fur hats all out in public. Big deal. If it is tasteful or not is simply opinion and we all have our own. Imposing your own on others is a means of oppression. Its ugly. I like the greenheads and would have simply assumed he hunts ducks, had a great day and is bragging a little. I dont care what the anti hunters think. I will never please them because i love nature and want to ineract, to be a participant. They hide from nature and want to watch it through glass. We will never agree and we should all stand up and be proud and vocal about hunting and our culture/lifestyle since it IS under attack as you guys say. I will not hide my lself, my gun, or my dead animal just because some detached liberal dipstick doesnt like it. They need to know there are plenty of us real folk and we will not give in to progressive stupidity.
Respect is something that is relative. I think it is more disrespectful to kill a living animal and end its days early than it is to display its lifeless shell. Causing pain and fear is more disrespect. The duck knows nothing after its dead. If its the Anti's your trying to respect then have at it but they dont respect you if you kill animals. Makws no difference if you display yhe animal or not.
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Dead animals have been on display for thousands of years. Even today, people wear elk ivory jewelry,......they wear fur coats and snakeskin boots. Rattlesnake hat bands. I once saw a couch made from ostrich skin. I have seen dead coyotes hanging on fence posts, i have put them there myself and do not regret it. I have seen ink pens with feathers and i have seen coonskin and other fur hats all out in public. Big deal. If it is tasteful or not is simply opinion and we all have our own. Imposing your own on others is a means of oppression. Its ugly. I like the greenheads and would have simply assumed he hunts ducks, had a great day and is bragging a little. I dont care what the anti hunters think. I will never please them because i love nature and want to ineract, to be a participant. They hide from nature and want to watch it through glass. We will never agree and we should all stand up and be proud and vocal about hunting and our culture/lifestyle since it IS under attack as you guys say. I will not hide my lself, my gun, or my dead animal just because some detached liberal dipstick doesnt like it. They need to know there are plenty of us real folk and we will not give in to progressive stupidity.
Our actions shape the future of our sport wether you like it or not, if only hunters voted on hunting issues then it woule be a perfect world. The Anti's are just that, anit hunting no matter what we do, but the neutral pople are just that and i will do what i can to keep them either neutral or atleast on our side.
Respect is something that is relative. I think it is more disrespectful to kill a living animal and end its days early than it is to display its lifeless shell. Causing pain and fear is more disrespect. The duck knows nothing after its dead. If its the Anti's your trying to respect then have at it but they dont respect you if you kill animals. Makws no difference if you display yhe animal or not.
You contradict yourself in this rant, read it again.
You and the others that think like you are missing the entire point and wont see it if it hit you over the head, it is not the ANTI'S that anyone in the hunting community is concerned with as far as offending, it is not the ANTI'S that we care to not offend, it is the non hunting public at large, the voting age, soon to be voting age and the age of impression we wish to not offend, it is the person who understands and respects our right to hunt and fish but does not partake in our sport, it is the person who has no negative view of our sport and does not wish to impead our pursuit...untill someone who feels they have the right to do whatever and f'em all if they dont like it does something to change there mind, to sway there opinion, to put in there minds a mental image that stays with them and helps decide the fate of what is important to us.....
Best way to describe it is i know for a fact that alot of people eat meat, beef, pork chicken etc, but the vast majority of them do not want to see it slaughtered, killed, and rendered. They like the neat package it is in at the store, the flavor of it off the grill and they support how it got there....
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You will never change an anti hunting persons point of view or opinion, but why change the non hunting supportive people through negative actions.... :dunno:
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Yesterday it was acceptable to parade around town with a deer head on your hood - today it is not.
Yesterday we could bait bear and run cats with dogs - today we cannot.
Yesterday we could trap coyote with foot holds - today we cannot
Every little crack and crevasse in hunting is being attacked from all angles and we as hunters tend to kowtow to non-hunters; afraid they'll vote out another aspect of hunting. We are loosing areas faster than we can keep track of, cooperations are buying vast tracks of land and keeping out hunters due to non-hunters tearing up the riparian forest areas mud bogging, driving off trails and the state/fed are closing roads faster than ever due to budget restraints in keeping roads up and garbage dumpers. A couple of duck heads is pretty small potatoes in the scheme of things.
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I understand your point. I see no reason to intentionally agitate people who dont hunt, but it is a wide world and we do not all need to agree on everything. I se no reason to go around trying to apprease everyone else in the world. I dont think it is the general public that is taking hunting from us because they are offended by it. Hunting and animals displays have always been. It is political reasons we are losing our hunting opportunities. Agenda 21 is a book that outlines resource management for the entire world in the 21stworld century. It is the guideline used by The United Nations and complimentary orginazations to guide progressive changes made to resource management. Its money and power that make things happen. They could convince the general public to eat each other if thats what they intend.
That guys duck truck is tacky, yes. It is not really a big deal though and its a little funny. I bet he is a young man who hasnt learned modesty yet.many of us have been there.
This guy didnt harm anyone or victimize anyone. I am sick and tired if this P.C. tippytoe around the morons mentality. Stand ul and be proud to be what you are and stop pandering to sheep.
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Displaying duck heads on one's truck antenna should not be seen as a proud display of anything. Simple as that.
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Your opinion.
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Anybody think it could be someone messing with another hunter? Guy A sees guy B's truck, decides he's gna have some fun. Sticks duck heads on his antenna and drives away.
Sent from my space modulator.
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And those "sissy" people that vote....well they are the majority and STUNTS like this will simply give them that much more of a reason to stop you from shootin those ducks.
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That really sounds like a liberal statement there h20. That's the problem with the sissy westsiders in general, they don't hunt, don't have a clue about hunter ethics, they have not a clue about what's legal or not, they are kneejerk liberals who want things their way and their way only. That's another reason why there is always the east vs. west. :tup:
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Displaying duck heads on one's truck antenna should not be seen as a proud display of anything. Simple as that.
Especially when its a Merganser and a bunch of Hens. :chuckle:
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Liberal or not it is a real world truth. I like eating ducks and shooting birds. Doesn't matter where I live. I see this as idiotic behavior.
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Displaying duck heads on one's truck antenna should not be seen as a proud display of anything. Simple as that.
Especially when its a Merganser and a bunch of Hens. :chuckle:
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It was stupid, but 5 pages of this reaming. Let it go for crying out loud. This what runs people away from this website. All this gotta be perfectly ethical BS is nonsense. It even irritates me and quite a few others I know on here. This is one reason why I wasn't on here for awhile. Some have to grown up and STFU !
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It was stupid, but 5 pages of this reaming. Let it go for crying out loud. This what runs people away from this website. All this gotta be perfectly ethical BS is nonsense. It even irritates me and quite a few others I know on here. This is one reason why I wasn't on here for awhile. Some have to grown up and STFU !
That goes both ways you know.
I could insert a very stereotypical and gross overgeneralization comment based simply on where people live, or my perception of their political affiliation (and its subsequent effect on their manhood/lack thereof). I find that close minded and irritating. Maybe heed your own advice? :)
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It was stupid, but 5 pages of this reaming. Let it go for crying out loud. This what runs people away from this website. All this gotta be perfectly ethical BS is nonsense. It even irritates me and quite a few others I know on here. This is one reason why I wasn't on here for awhile. Some have to grown up and STFU !
That goes both ways you know.
I could insert a very stereotypical and gross overgeneralization comment based simply on where people live, or my perception of their political affiliation (and its subsequent effect on their manhood/lack thereof). I find that close minded and irritating. Maybe heed your own advice? :)
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Carry on as always and try and cram your beliefs down others throats........... :tup:
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I gotta side with campmeat, on this one let it die or lock it up. I also left huntwa for a year; part of the reason was this holier than thou ethics bashing that goes on. Seth brought to attention and conducted himself very well. But 5 pages afterwards think anything that needs to be said has been. On top of that we have no clue on who/why. Could be a dumb kid, could be a prank(we used to stick all sorts of stuff on or in coworkers cars/trucks in the army), could be a cultural thing (down south you would be shocked to see what all people drive around with on their vehicles). Is having a bunch of ducks heads on your antenna wrong and or in bad taste yes, think it's been said or pointed too 50 times. Will 51 really make a difference?
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It was stupid, but 5 pages of this reaming. Let it go for crying out loud. This what runs people away from this website. All this gotta be perfectly ethical BS is nonsense. It even irritates me and quite a few others I know on here. This is one reason why I wasn't on here for awhile. Some have to grown up and STFU !
That goes both ways you know.
I could insert a very stereotypical and gross overgeneralization comment based simply on where people live, or my perception of their political affiliation (and its subsequent effect on their manhood/lack thereof). I find that close minded and irritating. Maybe heed your own advice? :)
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Carry on as always and try and cram your beliefs down others throats........... :tup:
Cram my beliefs how? You are the one telling others to STFU. I'll let you internet police wallow in your own hypocrisy here while you disperse the crowd.
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:chuckle: Hilarious, people complain and say they have left this site in the past and may do so again because of threads like this one. Yet these same people take the time to read all of it and even more time to post in the thread that they so despise! :chuckle:
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:chuckle: Hilarious, people complain and say they have left this site in the past and may do so again because of threads like this one. Yet these same people take the time to read all of it and even more time to post in the thread that they so despise! :chuckle:
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It was stupid, but 5 pages of this reaming. Let it go for crying out loud. This what runs people away from this website. All this gotta be perfectly ethical BS is nonsense. It even irritates me and quite a few others I know on here. This is one reason why I wasn't on here for awhile. Some have to grown up and STFU !
Sorry but being an ethical outdoor enthusiast and hunter is not nonsense. The folks teaching their kids and grand kids that these actions are ok is what will wreck it for future generations. I know it sucks, and folks used to drive around with deer heads attached to their Buick grill, but times have changed. These type of threads are good reminders that as hunters we are responsible to teach the younger generations GOOD ETHICS. I'm glad to see so many people were as upset as I was about that pic, maybe we are heading in the right direction. :tup:
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Dear all,
There's a thing called relativistic thinking, where the person thinking that way believes that everything is relative, and that no one's opinion is better or worse than anyone else's. But relativistic thinking is not something to aspire to, because it's a dumbed-down way to approach issues. All opinions are NOT of equal value. The opinion that what we do is only our own business is naive at best and anti-social at worst. Why is it so difficult to see that what we do as hunters is not only our own business, our own opinions, etc.?
We are all part of communities, and our actions are not independent in their effect, whether we like that fact or not. So when someone does something that WILL sway public opinion about hunting, it's not just about them exercising their personal freedom. It's about them putting themselves above the entire hunting community. We are a community of hunters, and like any community, there NEED to be agreed-upon standards of behavior, not just agreed-upon laws. I'm sorry, but if you can't honestly agree that sliding a bunch of duck heads down an antenna is a selfish, stupid, harm-to-the-hunting-community action, if you can't see that such an action is enormously selfish much more than it is an expression of personal liberty and individual rights, then you maybe need to get a little help for that rage and frustration you seem to harbor for those of us who do agree that exercising personal rights in such a way comes with costs that negatively affect other hunters and the institution of hunting.
My objections to the duck head action and its defenders have nothing to do with being politically correct. Labeling such objections is just an easy (pre-made, Limbaugh-esque) formulaic response for trying to resist the idea that maybe some things really are just plain wrong. Saying that the antenna approach is wrong is not, in fact, just one person's opinion that is no better or worse than the next person's. It's just wrong, if you care about more than yourself.
Sorry, but this is more than "just" my own opinion. It's common friggin' sense to anyone who cares about more than himself, and who actually cares about the social effects brain-dead actions like putting duck heads on an antenna can have on the non-hunting citizenry in the communities to which we all belong.
John
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Great post Numajohn.
I am conflicted on the topic. I have no problem with a deer or elk in the back of the truck on display.
Remember the guy killing everyones favorite octopus out of a king county scuba park?
Obvisouly what we do and how we do it does make a difference.
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You guys attempting to equalize this duck head/truck antenna shishkabob to taxidermy displayed inside the walls of your private home need to open your eyes.
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Well there just might be something to all these softies.. :chuckle:
http://www.responsivemanagement.com/download/reports/NAMWC_Public_Opinion_Hunting.pdf (http://www.responsivemanagement.com/download/reports/NAMWC_Public_Opinion_Hunting.pdf)
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Great post Numajohn.
I am conflicted on the topic. I have no problem with a deer or elk in the back of the truck on display.
Remember the guy killing everyones favorite octopus out of a king county scuba park?
Obvisouly what we do and how we do it does make a difference.
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Since this is still going....
The deer or elk in the back of the truck is being transported..........huge difference to an antenna kabob!
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here is my 2cents :twocents: ... ewww....then actually thats kinda funny....hmmm gives me some ideas for a crazy painting....and then I shake my head and think takes all kinds....I would use the image as a teaching tool of what not to do UNLESS your end goal was to rile people up on both sides of the fence
and duckheadantennae shishkabob :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: and again makes me think of that classic song..."Fish heads fish heads rolly polly fish heads"
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You guys attempting to equalize this duck head/truck antenna shishkabob to taxidermy displayed inside the walls of your private home need to open your eyes.
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Seems not too much different than snakeskin cowboy boots or a fur coat. Both are dead animals on display, in public. One has been tailored and sewn on to cloth,..........the other is not. Please explain the big difference between duck heads on a truck and a snake skin on a hat. Please elaborate.
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Dead rotting duck heads. No respect. Show some respect for the game you take. This person shows no respect for the game he has taken or the people he may encounter while driving around with this ridiculous display hanging off the side of his truck. I guess I have more respect than some others for the people in the world who may not want to see this and the children who may be terrified of this. If you can't see that, that's your problem...not mine. Bottom line is you can do whatever you please. I choose to do what i can to not contribute to any negative opinions non-hunters may have of hunting. What you do us up to you. You try and demonstrate 1 positive outcome of this person's decision to display the duck head/antenna shishkabob for all the world to see. I don't even need a positive outcome. Aside from "because he can" is there a good reason for it? I already know your answer I assume. I'm expecting the "he doesn't need a reason" reason. Maybe it's a maturity thing. Maybe it's a combination of things.
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You still didnt tell me the difference between a dead animal on someones jewelry, thier clothing, or on thier truck. It sounds like you believe the public will accept one and the other they will not. My reply to that is, if they saw it more it may not be such a shock factor. I think homosexuality is offensive, who cares about offending me? NOBODY. By not displaying your greenheads, you set the situation where it is a shock to people. If they saw that kind of thing more often they may not be so offended by it. The general public needs exposure to hunting, and awareness of it is. Hiding and cowering makes it look.like even you think its wrong.
There is NO diference in greenheads on a truck, cattlehorns on the hood of bosshogs car, an elk ivory ring, or a snakeskin belt. Its all public display of dead animals. Pandering to sensative people is NOT a good idea because they gain ground and YOU lose it when you just up and forfiet it right iff the start. His greenheads did not change anything. This thread is bizarre. That truck wouldnt have even turned a head in Cowiche. People have bigger things to worry about than legally hunted critters in a truck.
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i heard about this yesterday... and the dued took them off still.... it's stupid to put stufff like that on your antenna, no respect for the game or sport. the fact is ... there is enough tree hugging hippies in Wa.... why give them a reason to bitch more
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i heard about this yesterday... and the dued took them off still.... it's stupid to put stufff like that on your antenna, no respect for the game or sport. the fact is ... there is enough tree hugging hippies in Wa.... why give them a reason to bitch more
Is he confused like some as to why this is not the appropriate thing to do or is he now more open minded as to the resentment this causes. Because their is a big difference between cowboy boots, taxidermy items and rotting heads on an antenna. Typically negative info travels a lot faster than positive. The 10 or so guys that think it's cool are outweighed by the 10 times that amount that get pissed and start righting letters and trying to close the hunting because of it. This is how a small minority can damage things and effect a negative change for the greater population. A perfect example of baiting bears and leg traps. Air the pictures and video that a few thought were cool and the mass voted to end and close it. Just using an example of a fact. Another fact as mentioned, was the guy that caught the large octopus last year at Alki. Legal last year, but now closed to harvest for all in that area. :dunno: :dunno:
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i heard about this yesterday... and the dued took them off still.... it's stupid to put stufff like that on your antenna, no respect for the game or sport. the fact is ... there is enough tree hugging hippies in Wa.... why give them a reason to bitch more
Is he confused like some as to why this is not the appropriate thing to do or is he now more open minded as to the resentment this causes. Because their is a big difference between cowboy boots, taxidermy items and rotting heads on an antenna. Typically negative info travels a lot faster than positive. The 10 or so guys that think it's cool are outweighed by the 10 times that amount that get pissed and start righting letters and trying to close the hunting because of it. This is how a small minority can damage things and effect a negative change for the greater population. A perfect example of baiting bears and leg traps. Air the pictures and video that a few thought were cool and the mass voted to end and close it. Just using an example of a fact. Another fact as mentioned, was the guy that caught the large octopus last year at Alki. Legal last year, but now closed to harvest for all in that area. :dunno: :dunno:
There was a statistic that came out of Cornell Hotel school some years ago. It has to do with restaurant service, but is still applicable here. When someone is happy about something, they tell two people. When they're unhappy or dissatisfied with something, they tell 14.
These kinds of displays are at best, completely ignorant. At worst, completely selfish and damaging to the future of hunting. I respectfully suggest that if you don't see that clearly and the potential for our sport to go away as a result, there's a really good possibility that you're probably part of the problem.
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That truck wouldnt have even turned a head in Cowiche.
Maybe not, but Cowiche does not represent the diverse opinions in society.
I would go so far as to say it WOULD have turned a head in Cowiche, and someone would have thought this guy is a moron. If you really believe what you are typing on here, then I would say you have ostrich syndrome.
The public needs POSITIVE exposure to hunting, not some juvenile display like this.
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Ill only acknowledge that its unacceptable............and that I cant believe anyone is just now seeing this for the first time. Duck heads is far less insensative than some of the other things Ive noticed on antennas...........
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Apparently, from what i heard from a buddy, the guy said that it was something they do in Oregon.....
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i heard about this yesterday... and the dued took them off still.... it's stupid to put stufff like that on your antenna, no respect for the game or sport. the fact is ... there is enough tree hugging hippies in Wa.... why give them a reason to bitch more
What about calling 'hunting" a "game or sport"? Isn't that more disrespectful that some duck heads mounted on a vehicle?
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i heard about this yesterday... and the dued took them off still.... it's stupid to put stufff like that on your antenna, no respect for the game or sport. the fact is ... there is enough tree hugging hippies in Wa.... why give them a reason to bitch more
What about calling 'hunting" a "game or sport"? Isn't that more disrespectful that some duck heads mounted on a vehicle?
Huh? Please explain your thinking on that one.
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i heard about this yesterday... and the dued took them off still.... it's stupid to put stufff like that on your antenna, no respect for the game or sport. the fact is ... there is enough tree hugging hippies in Wa.... why give them a reason to bitch more
What about calling 'hunting" a "game or sport"? Isn't that more disrespectful that some duck heads mounted on a vehicle?
Game being the duck... it is considered game... and sport b/c hunting is considered a sport.
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Big Game and Small game?
and Hunting is considered a sport, though we hunt for food it is still a sport.... i dunno why some of ya;ll on this page live for Drama... i joined this page to meet fellow hunters but recently it feels like a wife's club full of drama hens :dunno:
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i heard about this yesterday... and the dued took them off still.... it's stupid to put stufff like that on your antenna, no respect for the game or sport. the fact is ... there is enough tree hugging hippies in Wa.... why give them a reason to bitch more
What about calling 'hunting" a "game or sport"? Isn't that more disrespectful that some duck heads mounted on a vehicle?
Huh? Please explain your thinking on that one.
Read the link I posted..
Public opinion. Least acceptable to the public is Trophy hunters, up a few on the list is Sport hunters.
Most widely accepted is Meat hunters. :tup:
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i heard about this yesterday... and the dued took them off still.... it's stupid to put stufff like that on your antenna, no respect for the game or sport. the fact is ... there is enough tree hugging hippies in Wa.... why give them a reason to bitch more
What about calling 'hunting" a "game or sport"? Isn't that more disrespectful that some duck heads mounted on a vehicle?
Huh? Please explain your thinking on that one.
Just food for thought.. All I know is most of the tree hugging hippie community frown heavily upon us calling hunting a game or sport
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Just out of curiosity, IF it happens that hunting and fishing restrictions are increased, by the "SISSIE" general public, is this still a non issue? Or will those that see this as no big deal NOWADAYS, different many years ago, I understand, see that the past actions of people like this and others could have caused such restrictions? No, probably not. It sucks that people are this way, and we can moan and groan all we want about how "I see it", "its just fine", etc, but IT IS WHAT IT IS. Lets do what we can to give the general public a good idea of hunting. Taxidermy, really, come on. Taxidermy does exactly the opposite of what this person does. It shows respect and admiration for the game harvested.
*This is merely my opinion, no personal attacks on anyone whatsoever. Disagreement at best.
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You guys attempting to equalize this duck head/truck antenna shishkabob to taxidermy displayed inside the walls of your private home need to open your eyes.
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Seems not too much different than snakeskin cowboy boots or a fur coat. Both are dead animals on display, in public. One has been tailored and sewn on to cloth,..........the other is not. Please explain the big difference between duck heads on a truck and a snake skin on a hat. Please elaborate.
OMG I have an even better idea....what if I fashioned said heads into a stole/boa so instead of ermine or feathers I create a duck head boa...oh this thread is doing fabulous things for my creativity thanks for all the inspiration guys this is great
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You guys attempting to equalize this duck head/truck antenna shishkabob to taxidermy displayed inside the walls of your private home need to open your eyes.
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Seems not too much different than snakeskin cowboy boots or a fur coat. Both are dead animals on display, in public. One has been tailored and sewn on to cloth,..........the other is not. Please explain the big difference between duck heads on a truck and a snake skin on a hat. Please elaborate.
OMG I have an even better idea....what if I fashioned said heads into a stole/boa so instead of ermine or feathers I create a duck head boa...oh this thread is doing fabulous things for my creativity thanks for all the inspiration guys this is great
Just google The World's Creepiest Taxidermy Art. :o