Post by: pashok23 on December 04, 2013, 08:43:40 PM
what you guys think? Which gun I should get? Thanks in advance
Post by: Fowlweather25 on December 04, 2013, 08:48:26 PM
Post by: pashok23 on December 04, 2013, 08:50:16 PM
AR for sure, if you want the larger caliber, go with the AR-10what caliber is ar10?
Post by: Fowlweather25 on December 04, 2013, 08:50:41 PM
Post by: 762Armo on December 04, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
Post by: sebek556 on December 04, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on December 04, 2013, 09:15:28 PM
With the AR you get a ver versatile platform shooting bullets from .204 up to .500 Beowolf. A thousand options for barrel, upper receiver, action, stock, magazine, etc.
If you want to waste lots of money shooting at (and usually missing ) Big Gulp cups at the range then get the AK. If you want a versatile, readily available, easily modifyable, with many choices that are relatively cheap to shoot rifle then go for the AR. If I really thought I would need it for an end of society survival rifle then the AK would probably be tops though.
Really depends on why you want the gun.
Post by: snowpack on December 04, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Hunting small game or big game, home defense, match shoots?
If reliability after any weather or falling in water/mud will be an issue, then I'd suggest AK.
Post by: FC on December 04, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 04, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Post by: pashok23 on December 04, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Post by: Special T on December 05, 2013, 07:01:51 AM
AR's are the Ruger 10-22 of the big boy world, and yo can get or make one that fits your desire, just bring the cash.
Post by: mountainman on December 05, 2013, 07:46:11 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 05, 2013, 07:48:29 AM
AK-47 Bacon Sundae (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ovyeoyl29I#ws)
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on December 05, 2013, 07:59:35 AM
Funny!
Post by: fishinmike on December 05, 2013, 08:18:44 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 05, 2013, 08:32:39 AM
Post by: Special T on December 05, 2013, 11:46:51 AM
Apples and oranges...get one of each, they both have thier place. The ak the Glock of the rifle world, the ar more the 1911. Accuracy versus reliability is probably the most basic way to differentiate
I thought the origianl 1911 was designed to shoot under most condiditons even after being dropped in mud?
Post by: follow maggie on December 07, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
Post by: pashok23 on December 07, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
Post by: sebek556 on December 07, 2013, 07:43:48 PM
Post by: Simcoe hunter on December 07, 2013, 07:58:29 PM
AK for the zombie apocalypse. This is the epitome of "gun don't fail me now".
Post by: hillbilli on December 08, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
AR- good ergonomics, easy to manipulate safety, better trigger, better sights, most are .223-light, fast bullet, good coyote round,(not deer legal in WA), easier to carry lots of ammo with you, flatter shooting at distance, almost all will shoot 1.5" at 100yds or better, many good scope/optics options, probably better for a beginner to shoot well. Needs more cleaning/maintenance than an AK- but easy to fieldstrip and clean..
Post by: GoPlayOutside on December 08, 2013, 09:54:14 AM
Ok, I got it. :)
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 08, 2013, 06:56:55 PM
So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action. But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK.
Ok, I got it. :)
You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take. :tup:
Post by: FC on December 08, 2013, 09:12:54 PM
So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action. But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK.
Ok, I got it. :)
You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take. :tup:
Properly setup and lubed they will run a long time, if you piss in the action of an AK once a year or so it will exhibit at least as good a performance. :chuckle:
Post by: fair-chase on December 08, 2013, 09:27:17 PM
Shovel AK - CAUTION LANGUAGE (http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning!)
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 08, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action. But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK.
Ok, I got it. :)
You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take. :tup:
Properly setup and lubed they will run a long time, if you piss in the action of an AK once a year or so it will exhibit at least as good a performance. :chuckle:
AK's shouldn't even be remotely considered a AR's equal. They are two completely different creatures, toe to toe. Head to head a AR will walk all over a AK, if one chooses to compare them in the same pool. It cracks me up! :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 08, 2013, 10:41:53 PM
Comparing a AR to a AK is like comparing a horse to a donkey.
Post by: 762Armo on December 08, 2013, 10:44:30 PM
AK's shouldn't even be remotely considered a AR's equal. They are two completely different creatures, toe to toe. Head to head a AR will walk all over a AK, if one chooses to compare them in the same pool. It cracks me up! :chuckle:
LOL. Contradicting yourself a bit.
If they are two different creatures, then you shouldn't compare them in the same pool, or state that one is better than the other. Obviously because they each have their own better qualities.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 09, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
AK's shouldn't even be remotely considered a AR's equal. They are two completely different creatures, toe to toe. Head to head a AR will walk all over a AK, if one chooses to compare them in the same pool. It cracks me up! :chuckle:
LOL. Contradicting yourself a bit.
If they are two different creatures, then you shouldn't compare them in the same pool, or state that one is better than the other. Obviously because they each have their own better qualities.
Contradicting?
" If one chooses "
Post by: Mongo Hunter on December 09, 2013, 09:02:08 AM
Post by: Buzz2401 on December 10, 2013, 12:26:52 PM
Post by: Lincoln4 on December 10, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
Post by: n2thecraft on December 11, 2013, 08:22:54 PM
Post by: MountainDevil54 on December 12, 2013, 04:15:33 PM
Post by: Simcoe hunter on December 12, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action. But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK.
Ok, I got it. :)
You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take. :tup:
And there in lies the biggest truth. "Properly setup". The AK takes no additional setup to be able to fire after putting your breakfast through the action!
Post by: FC on December 13, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
So...you guys are saying, "go with the AR"....unless I plan on putting eggs, jack daniels, syrup, and bacon in the action. But, If I do want to run breakfast thru my rifle....then I should go with an AK.
Ok, I got it. :)
You would be surprised what a properly set up/ gassed AR can take. :tup:
And there in lies the biggest truth. "Properly setup". The AK takes no additional setup to be able to fire after putting your breakfast through the action!
Funny enough, it's also amazing how ergonomic an AK can get with a stock and pistol grip that fits you well. There are also receiver sights available for AK's. Personally I was amazed to find out how accurate my AK was with a little trigger work, a recoil spring to keep it from tapping the trunnion and some furniture. The adjustable cheek riser made a gigantic difference.
If you buy an AK and plan to shoot it a lot, get a 5.45x39 chambered rifle if you want to shoot cheap surplus. :twocents:
Post by: MountainDevil54 on December 13, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi293.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm53%2Fthepowerbeltforum%2FAimpoint%2FDSCN6264.jpg&hash=db5d27e45d4d5406f071b7936dff295d72b83a13)
The 3 shots by the 1 are my 3 at 50 yards.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi293.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm53%2Fthepowerbeltforum%2FAimpoint%2FDSCN6259.jpg&hash=03fb55d027384fcafbcf2ac8d4e446faa9e318bb)
Post by: pashok23 on December 13, 2013, 08:12:22 PM
I had the same dilemma,, got one of each,,, problem solved!i like that :)
Post by: pashok23 on December 13, 2013, 08:14:58 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi293.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm53%2Fthepowerbeltforum%2FAimpoint%2FDSCN6262.jpg&hash=8e50c6d207e292b4aba076622cea00ab36d55bc7)what kind of scope is it?looks really sick on your ak :tup:
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The 3 shots by the 1 are my 3 at 50 yards.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi293.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm53%2Fthepowerbeltforum%2FAimpoint%2FDSCN6259.jpg&hash=03fb55d027384fcafbcf2ac8d4e446faa9e318bb)
Post by: Special T on December 17, 2013, 07:49:50 AM
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 17, 2013, 08:19:09 AM
But the thing that’s often overlooked in online conversations about guns is the weight. The AK weighs a ton.
Post by: FC on December 17, 2013, 11:41:31 AM
But the thing that’s often overlooked in online conversations about guns is the weight. The AK weighs a ton.
I am not sure if my AK even makes it to 10lbs fully loaded. An old milled receiver/wood furniture gun is definitely a lot heavier but I wouldn't think anyone would be using a collectible like that for a shooter.
Don't get me wrong here, I am an AR fan and own both an AK and an AR. The AK is capable of plenty good accuracy if the barrel isn't ruined and the shooter has a clue. I've shot AK's with worn out original barrels and they suck, they keyhole at 25 yards etc...but so will an AR with a destroyed barrel! A good barrel on either will produce substantially better results, a trigger upgrade helps a lot too
Post by: rainshadow1 on December 17, 2013, 11:54:14 AM
I wouldn't even begin to consider the AK in ANY hunting scenario, however. (Except maybe spot & stalk hunting for wild hogs in TX.)
AR is still fun to shoot, but also has the accuracy and precision potential that the AK just can't even dream about.
Post by: coachcw on December 17, 2013, 11:57:39 AM
Post by: Jrzbullelk on December 17, 2013, 12:03:06 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 17, 2013, 12:09:23 PM
looks like an aimpoint
:yeah: A blowup of picture #1 shows "Aimpoint" on the side of the scope.
Post by: MountainDevil54 on December 17, 2013, 12:38:47 PM
The myth about the AK not being accurate is a bunch of bs.
I remember last year we had the ak out at the whittington center and a guy pulls out his new ar15 to shoot, that SOB did nothing but jam on him. I kind of chuckled and said, you should have bought an AK.
AR is just a city cowboy wanting to play a soldier, basically, to many video games.
As for weight, whats wrong? Have a long walk to your tree stand :chuckle:
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