Post by: scout/sniper on December 12, 2013, 11:48:52 AM
We have a 1968 Mustang Fastback. My wife and I restored it a few years back on a limited budget,
but will be tearing apart again after the 50th anniversary Mustang Rod Run in May.
I need a date-correct engine block for the new engine I will build for it.
The current engine is a 400hp 302. Correct engine, wrong date code "9", it is a 1969 block.
The 3 digit date code on the block must start with the digit "8".
The engine I.D. code must start with C8OE-6015.
C.I.D. is irrelevant, 302 and 289 are the same block.
Anyone have one laying in a junk pile somewhere? :dunno:
All help is appreciated.
Post by: yakimarcher on December 12, 2013, 11:53:42 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on December 12, 2013, 11:55:49 AM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 12, 2013, 11:56:40 AM
They have a bunch of old cars?
The engine was used in Mustangs and Cougars.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 12, 2013, 11:57:17 AM
Let me go do a little checking. Will get back to you shortly
Awesome!!! :drool:
Post by: Woodchuck on December 12, 2013, 11:58:28 AM
Post by: Buckmark on December 12, 2013, 12:01:50 PM
I will check it this weekend and let you know...
I gave a way alot of stuff years ago so the 68 block may be gone..
Post by: yakimarcher on December 12, 2013, 12:02:41 PM
Never heard of them, thanks.
They have a bunch of old cars?
The engine was used in Mustangs and Cougars.
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they have a ton of old cars, the ford section is pretty big, the yard is enormous.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 12, 2013, 12:04:06 PM
You do however have to tell me where you got the headlights. I have never seen a decent conversion.
I forget the website I found them on, I will try to find it.
They look good but suck. They are projection and barely give enough light to drive.
I have blue LED's all over this car and I got those headlights because hey have holes in them that are just perfect for LED's
Post by: scout/sniper on December 12, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
I might, i have quite a few sb ford parts and have a long block i took out of my car years ago (mine is a 68), it may be a 1966 though as i have built and swapped a few engines around (i had a few all built and ready if i blew one).
I will check it this weekend and let you know...
I gave a way alot of stuff years ago so the 68 block may be gone..
Thank you, no hurry so don't waste a weekend for me.
Post by: Woodchuck on December 12, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 12, 2013, 02:11:40 PM
The date code is 3 digits, year-month-day.
In early 1968 they ran short of engine blocks and used left over 1967 blocks.
If a 1967 block had a month code of K,L or M, it would still be correct to the car.
Thanks.
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 12:19:30 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 12:21:06 PM
I have a couple more to check in the warehouse, may take me a day or two to get over there and look.Thank you!
Post by: coachcw on December 16, 2013, 12:56:11 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 01:03:57 PM
honestly a 400 hp 302 with a single eldebrook is streach but if your looking for a 302 numbers block try Rob at action machine a call 206 546-2082 he's a very knowlegible guyThis engine is pro-built, had this conversation many times.
Thanks for the info! :tup:
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 01:17:33 PM
Woodburn Drag Strip wheelies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQtOdn7lYq0#ws)
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 01:26:03 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 01:31:35 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 01:33:13 PM
Pay a visit to WW on the right weekend this summer and I will get ya in the passenger seat. :tup:Awesome!!!!!
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 01:36:13 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 16, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 01:39:19 PM
Any other pics of your car?:yeah:
Post by: Buckmark on December 16, 2013, 01:47:30 PM
Nice run Woodchuck..
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If i did give that 68 block away it would of been to Rob at action, like Coach said he is a good guy.
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I still have to look in the shed.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 01:53:53 PM
someone has had an ad in the Wenatchee World, category 604 Parts, Accessories, Body, Glass for a 289 Ford engine and C4 transmission out of a 1967 Cougar. Ad says it's stock, complete, and runs good. 130K $600.00 call Mike at 509-669-1468. Ad's been there for a long time. :dunno:Will check it out, Thanks!
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 01:54:48 PM
Any other pics of your car?I think I have a side shot on this pc. Let me check.
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 01:56:49 PM
Happiness is a perfectOh that isn't me, is a good friend of mine. The one I drive is a little quicker and less stock appearing.10, 9.90......
Nice run Woodchuck..
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If i did give that 68 block away it would of been to Rob at action, like Coach said he is a good guy.
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I still have to look in the shed.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
Any other pics of your car?Here are a few. Some before shots as well.
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 02:07:55 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:09:24 PM
:tup: Very nice.Thank you, but I really want to see your car!!!!!!
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 02:17:45 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 02:18:01 PM
Post by: DRobnsn on December 16, 2013, 02:19:13 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:21:05 PM
Scout, other than just wanting a year appropriate block, does it make that much of a difference on this car since it's not stock anyway? :dunno:I thought that too. Do think it really matters? It will never go back to stock.
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 02:24:06 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:24:28 PM
Dang! looks real nice! :tup: I'd say you did real well for a budget build. What cylinder heads are you running on it?Thank you, pictures conceal quite a bit on the paint.
It looks fantastic from 10 feet, but can be picked apart if you get closer.
I don't know a lot about the engine off hand, it was purchased as described.
I can look at the specs and see.
Overall we are pleased and have a lot of fun with it.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:26:15 PM
How long of a project was it?My wife worked on it 4 years before I got involved. She did all the body and bright work.
I have spent 2 years on the mechanical. It was a real mess. So far 6 years.
Post by: coachcw on December 16, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
good point if you like it how it is no sense in worrying about the numbers , Nice fastback . I have a 64.5 coupe first car and I had all the stock generator parts and shields and hucked the stuff ohwell life goes on .Scout, other than just wanting a year appropriate block, does it make that much of a difference on this car since it's not stock anyway? :dunno:I thought that too. Do think it really matters? It will never go back to stock.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:27:25 PM
The car I drive is a shared seat time deal. He did well in the points last year so I didn't drive a lot but it is a hoot. It is owned by another buddy.OMG!! That is so awesome!
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:29:59 PM
Thank you!good point if you like it how it is no sense in worrying about the numbers , Nice fastback . I have a 64.5 coupe first car and I had all the stock generator parts and shields and hucked the stuff ohwell life goes on .Scout, other than just wanting a year appropriate block, does it make that much of a difference on this car since it's not stock anyway? :dunno:I thought that too. Do think it really matters? It will never go back to stock.
I guess numbers don't really matter then.
Do you still have your coupe?
We have a restored 66 coupe in storage, they are nice cars.
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 02:30:12 PM
Well done. :tup:How long of a project was it?My wife worked on it 4 years before I got involved. She did all the body and bright work.
I have spent 2 years on the mechanical. It was a real mess. So far 6 years.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:31:12 PM
Thank you!Well done. :tup:How long of a project was it?My wife worked on it 4 years before I got involved. She did all the body and bright work.
I have spent 2 years on the mechanical. It was a real mess. So far 6 years.
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 02:31:29 PM
:DOH:I have a 64.5 coupe first car and I had all the stock generator parts and shields and hucked the stuff ohwell life goes on .Scout, other than just wanting a year appropriate block, does it make that much of a difference on this car since it's not stock anyway? :dunno:I thought that too. Do think it really matters? It will never go back to stock.
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 02:33:07 PM
I wouldn't worry about it if it's never going to be stock. :twocents:I guess numbers don't really matter then.good point if you like it how it is no sense in worrying about the numbers , Nice fastback . I have a 64.5 coupe first car and I had all the stock generator parts and shields and hucked the stuff ohwell life goes on .Scout, other than just wanting a year appropriate block, does it make that much of a difference on this car since it's not stock anyway? :dunno:I thought that too. Do think it really matters? It will never go back to stock.
Post by: coachcw on December 16, 2013, 02:37:54 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:40:23 PM
yeah I do it has a dual quad small block the spins 8500 rpm . but i'm seriously thinking about going LS with a six speedWow, that's getting pretty serious :tup:
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
yeah I do it has a dual quad small block the spins 8500 rpm:yike: Small block spinning like that, you better have some kind of accusump hooked up or you'll be spinning bearings left and right. :chuckle:
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:42:36 PM
I wouldn't worry about it if it's never going to be stock. :twocents:Thank you.
By the way, you got told on...LMAO
Now I have to see your cars!!!!
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:46:24 PM
yeah I do it has a dual quad small block the spins 8500 rpm . but i'm seriously thinking about going LS with a six speedReferring to your earlier comment, do I need to question my 400hp?
God I hope not.
It runs very strong and has tons of power.
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 02:48:43 PM
400hp out of a normally aspirated 302 is quite the accomplishment! :tup:yeah I do it has a dual quad small block the spins 8500 rpm . but i'm seriously thinking about going LS with a six speedReferring to your earlier comment, do I need to question my 400hp?
God I hope not.
It runs very strong and has tons of power.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:52:32 PM
400hp out of a 302 is quite the accomplishment! :tup:*censored*! :chuckle:
I did nothing on the engine so I can't even debate it.
If you guys don't think so I will have to go with that, you certainly know more than I do.
It runs great and that's really all I need it to do.
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
I'm not doubting you, just saying that's a hell of a job. :tup:400hp out of a 302 is quite the accomplishment! :tup:*censored*! :chuckle:
I did nothing on the engine so I can't even debate it.
If you guys don't think so that's ok, you certainly know more than I do.
It runs great and that's really all I need it to do.
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 02:55:33 PM
Not arguing at all, I appreciate the knowledge.I'm not doubting you, just saying that's a hell of a job. :tup:400hp out of a 302 is quite the accomplishment! :tup:*censored*! :chuckle:
I did nothing on the engine so I can't even debate it.
If you guys don't think so that's ok, you certainly know more than I do.
It runs great and that's really all I need it to do.
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 16, 2013, 02:58:53 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on December 16, 2013, 03:00:33 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 03:01:15 PM
Hell, I've seen those kinds of numbers claimed from Honda Civics and Subaru's so it's got to be doable for a V8 302.Not arguing at all, I appreciate the knowledge.I'm not doubting you, just saying that's a hell of a job. :tup:400hp out of a 302 is quite the accomplishment! :tup:*censored*! :chuckle:
I did nothing on the engine so I can't even debate it.
If you guys don't think so that's ok, you certainly know more than I do.
It runs great and that's really all I need it to do.
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 03:03:03 PM
Well scout, since your not worried about things matching, here's the power plant in one of my bosses car collection. :chuckle:Man, that thing has to be loud as hell! :tup:
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 16, 2013, 03:05:27 PM
:chuckle:Well scout, since your not worried about things matching, here's the power plant in one of my bosses car collection. :chuckle:Man, that thing has to be loud as hell! :tup:
Not as loud as this one. This ones north of 1200hp :yike:
Post by: huntnphool on December 16, 2013, 03:08:08 PM
Awesome, lots of work right there! :tup::chuckle:Well scout, since your not worried about things matching, here's the power plant in one of my bosses car collection. :chuckle:Man, that thing has to be loud as hell! :tup:
Not as loud as this one. This ones north of 1200hp :yike:
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
Well scout, since your not worried about things matching, here's the power plant in one of my bosses car collection. :chuckle:Holy crap, that is incredible. It's hard to show my enthusiasm on this thread with the bad word filter.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 05:16:18 PM
There seems to be a lot of talent here.
Post by: scout/sniper on December 16, 2013, 05:29:45 PM
yeah I do it has a dual quad small block the spins 8500 rpm . but i'm seriously thinking about going LS with a six speedHey Coach,
There is a 50th anniversary Mustang cruise in May in Portland.
The intent is to break the world record for the most Mustangs in a cruise.
Canada currently holds the record. This iconic American muscle car needs to have the record held by America. Do a search for it, I will post a link when I get back on a pc. My kindle is too clumsy to attempt it at the moment. It would be great to meet you.
Same for anyone with a Mustang! This is an historic event.