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Title: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: quadrafire on December 12, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Topic: 8mm mauser semi-sporterized. Circa 1965 Jason 4x scope (with a broken reticle) on weaver bases.
History: was my Dads, a hand me down to me, he is deceased so I know no other history.
Shoots pretty decent 1.5-2 in at 100 with hand loads.
All the parts have matching numbers

If you look at the pics of the casings there is a linear defect just below the neck of the case, not very pronounced. I assume this is a casting defect in the chamber of the barrel. Long term affects????

I have been wanting to turn this into a project.
Is there any value leaving as is?

Goals: consider turning the barrel/recrowning. It now has original sights and "step taper" (very good patina....almost rust proof)
Maybe a new stock? ideas?

The trigger is standard Mauser, almost a 2 stage. The action is fairly slick but could be buffed a bit.

Curious as to what you would do?
I have not set a budget, but would like some ideas for options.

Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: quadrafire on December 12, 2013, 08:03:42 PM
a few more
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: TONTO on December 12, 2013, 08:09:34 PM
 Aside from sentimentle value coming from your father, I would say with the already cut down stock collector value isn't going to be an issue. Some fine tuning isn't going to hurt it.
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: quadrafire on December 12, 2013, 08:19:39 PM
Yea I kind of figured the collector $ would be gone.
Just fishing. Know I could buy other options for cheaper, but I have several other calibers and don't really need to rechamber into something else (although would be fun to hear of other options)
Basically this is a after hunting season internet info gathering trip.
Give us all something to fight about....... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: AWS on December 12, 2013, 11:05:18 PM
It is a desirable Mauser action with the expensive stuff done (D&T'd-bolt turned down-safety converted for scope).  Toss everything but the action.

 1. Send it to ER Shaw for a barrel and bluing.  Caliber, just about anything with a .473 head.

 2. Install a Timney trigger.

 3. Drop it into an after market stock

Have fun with it.
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: 724wd on December 13, 2013, 07:31:09 AM
It is a desirable Mauser action with the expensive stuff done (D&T'd-bolt turned down-safety converted for scope).  Toss everything but the action.

 1. Send it to ER Shaw for a barrel and bluing.  Caliber, just about anything with a .473 head.

 2. Install a Timney trigger.

 3. Drop it into an after market stock

Have fun with it.

 :yeah:  VZ24's are great actions.  you're only limited by your budget at this point.  there are cheap stocks like a boyds or ramline and there are expensive stocks like McMillian.  same with barrels.  cheap like adams & bennett (which i had good luck with) and expensive like Hart or douglas air gauged.  Can't go wrong with a timney trigger, but i've had good luck with optima, too. 

LOTS of great info and great people at http://www.sporterizing.com/ (http://www.sporterizing.com/) 

If you want to do more of it yourself, i have a barrel vice and action wrench, and quite a bit of mauser experience.   :hello:
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: Bill W on December 13, 2013, 07:42:01 AM
Before I'd do anything I'd poke a bore scope down the chamber to see what the scratchy issue is.  It might be able to polish it out.   This is unless you hate the 8mm Mauser.
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: quadrafire on December 13, 2013, 08:35:34 AM
Hey thanks for the info guys. Great ideas. I'll do some reading on that site this weekend
I may get ahold of you 724  :tup:
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 13, 2013, 10:03:37 AM
I agree, contact E.R Shaw barrels and have them Rebarrel it. They have a bunch of long action cartridges available and their prices are reasonable. That is a great bullet proof action, I have a Spanish Mauser 93 that was handed down to me. It was my grandpas, then it went to my father and then to me when I was 15. Super accurate, when the barrel goes south. I will send it off to Shaw and have it re barreled to 7x57 Improved.

Nothing is safe, in my safe. When it comes to sale or trade but a handfull and my Mauser is one of them.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto2-37.jpg&hash=8277dd085a617d07541d295e0d7ad4306986c98d)
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: coachcw on December 13, 2013, 10:59:13 AM
Hammer I have a m98 1939 any idea what they charge to barrel one ? my stock and bolt have been sporterized
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: 724wd on December 13, 2013, 11:36:52 AM
Hammer I have a m98 1939 any idea what they charge to barrel one ? my stock and bolt have been sporterized

http://www.ershawbarrels.com/scb-gunsmithing-services.php (http://www.ershawbarrels.com/scb-gunsmithing-services.php)
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 13, 2013, 12:41:14 PM
Hammer I have a m98 1939 any idea what they charge to barrel one ? my stock and bolt have been sporterized

Allot of smiths won't even work on Mauser actions or toss them to the back of the line up. That's why Shaw is a great place for allot of actions other than Remington's and Winchesters.

A chrome moly barrel is 175.00, a bit more for a stainless. 120.0 to fit the barrel. That includes crowning, threading, chambering and truing the bolt face/lugs.

Here's a list of the reamers and barrel twists they have.

http://www.ershawbarrels.com/scb-twist-rates.php (http://www.ershawbarrels.com/scb-twist-rates.php)
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: coachcw on December 14, 2013, 08:25:07 AM
Man that ERshaw web sight might cost me some doe ! just had to get a quote on a .375  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: mountainman on December 14, 2013, 08:58:58 AM
Have had several over the years rebarrelled by Shaw. Highly recommend!
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2013, 01:09:43 PM
Man that ERshaw web sight might cost me some doe ! just had to get a quote on a .375  :chuckle:

Ultra or H&H? I've shot both quite a bit over the years. In the timber the .375 H&H shines, where as the .375 Ultra is a power house to way out there.
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: coachcw on December 14, 2013, 06:22:32 PM
H&H walnut polished  24  with a break ..
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: RB on December 14, 2013, 06:58:03 PM
Hmmmm wish I would not have seen the web site either now it got me thinking of the possibilities I could have done with an old M98 I have laying around  8)
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: coachcw on December 14, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
after seeing there web site  my old 98 is gonna stay in the safe lol
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: Bofire on December 14, 2013, 07:46:03 PM
Leave it alone, take it out once a year and shoot, think about yer Dad. Try the long shot with it.
400 yard prarie dog?
Carl
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: coachcw on December 14, 2013, 07:50:33 PM
Leave it alone, take it out once a year and shoot, think about yer Dad. Try the long shot with it.
400 yard prarie dog?
Carl
that's a good idea it's the same way I got mine and the first deer I killed was with my old 98...
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: mountainman on December 15, 2013, 08:32:39 AM
Leave it alone, take it out once a year and shoot, think about yer Dad. Try the long shot with it.
400 yard prarie dog?
Carl
have to agree! Its just a thing, the values is in the memories of it belonging and being used by your dad..i have several rifles with huge sentimental value, and will never be reworked and changed! the 2 i had rebarrelled by Shaw ( a 257 bob and a 257 bob ackley) had zero sentimental value..just tools.:)
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: quadrafire on December 16, 2013, 09:03:46 AM
It shoots well enough to just leave alone. And certainly can take the knocks of hunting.
I had just been considering doing something else with it. I have other rifles/shotguns of his that were hand me downs as well, but not necessarily project guns.
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: coachcw on December 17, 2013, 07:14:02 AM
I just got a quate from er shaw on a .375 This might happen .
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 17, 2013, 10:03:02 AM
I just got a quate from er shaw on a .375 This might happen .

 :tup:
Title: Re: Mauser Guys give me some input
Post by: coachcw on December 17, 2013, 10:14:42 AM
thisd onehttp://www.ershawbarrels.com/build-your-e-r-shaw-mk-VII-rifle.htm
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