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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: bugs n bones on December 23, 2013, 12:59:19 PM

Title: Mountain goat study
Post by: bugs n bones on December 23, 2013, 12:59:19 PM: someone needs to do a liitle research in the 460 unit, there goats spread out all over in different groups
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: norsepete on December 25, 2013, 06:59:44 AM: You would think we could harvest a higher percentage of the population without harm in some areas when you can stand there and count forty to fifty goats in a group.
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 25, 2013, 07:58:41 AM: Heres a group from GPW that was grouped together during the mating season.
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: go4steelhd on December 25, 2013, 08:56:16 AM: That's a cool photo :tup:
Thanks for sharing it...
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: Todd_ID on December 25, 2013, 09:28:23 AM: Quote from: norsepete on December 25, 2013, 06:59:44 AM
You would think we could harvest a higher percentage of the population without harm in some areas when you can stand there and count forty to fifty goats in a group.
It would be nice to dream about, but goats don't respond to pressure anywhere close to as well as deer and elk. The currently acceptable harvest rate is only 4% of a stable herd; after the tribal take is figured in, there simply aren't many left for us to draw tags for.
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: Bob33 on December 25, 2013, 09:53:27 AM: Cougars kill quite a few as well.
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: actionshooter on December 25, 2013, 10:04:33 AM: It also doesn't help that the WDFW doesn't fund for accurate counts. Twice (different units) I have counted 25+% more goats than the WDFW claims. Once I was sitting in one spot and counted 46 goats and the WDFW claimed only 54 in the whole unit. I know for sure there were 20+ on the other side of the unit. How many were missed.

Fact is Washington has the highest goat population in the lower 48 and the least number of tags.
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: Jingles on December 25, 2013, 10:31:11 AM: Plus I Know of at least 2 herds that aren't permitted at all
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 25, 2013, 10:43:50 AM: Quote from: Bob33 on December 25, 2013, 09:53:27 AM
Cougars kill quite a few as well.

Seen it myself
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: bugs n bones on December 25, 2013, 02:52:16 PM: They don't want us to kill anything, they just want are money
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on December 25, 2013, 03:00:55 PM: If i remember correctly they say we can harvest 1 per hundred.

I know when my brother had the tag in 2012 we counted close to 100 in one area. And i know there are many more in the area we hunted.
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: bugs n bones on December 25, 2013, 03:52:38 PM: Oh yeah if it 100 to 1 they could issue a few tags here
Title: Re: Mountain goat study
Post by: jason4429 on January 03, 2014, 09:12:01 PM: The area my dad and uncle use to hunt doesn't have any permits. I deer hunt up there and still see plenty of goats.