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Title: Skull whitening
Post by: blindluck on December 23, 2013, 04:09:39 PM
Does anyone use Baquacil Oxidizer to soak their skulls for the whitening process? If so where is a good place to buy it.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pygmy on December 23, 2013, 04:41:38 PM
Nope, sorry.  H2O2 at 35% for me.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: blindluck on December 23, 2013, 04:49:59 PM
You use 35%, what do you pay and where do you purchase it.

Thanks
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 23, 2013, 04:50:27 PM
Best thing you could do is go to your local pharmacy buy 4 or 5 bottles of Hydrogen peroxide($3 per bottle), put the skull in a plastic bag, wrap duct tap around it then fill up the bag with peroxide and let it soak a couple days will come out nice and white.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pygmy on December 23, 2013, 08:29:24 PM
http://www.dfwx.com/h2o2.html (http://www.dfwx.com/h2o2.html)

only takes a few hours to fully whiten deer, bear and elk skulls.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: bugs n bones on December 23, 2013, 08:37:52 PM
http://www.dfwx.com/h2o2.html (http://www.dfwx.com/h2o2.html)

only takes a few hours to fully whiten deer, bear and elk skulls.
Lol....a few hours .....a bear skull please share your secrets
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pygmy on December 23, 2013, 09:02:59 PM

only takes a few hours to fully whiten deer, bear and elk skulls.
Lol....a few hours .....a bear skull please share your secrets
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35% is extremely strong.  My black bear skull this year took less than eight hours for it to fully whiten.  Maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: PolarBear on December 23, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
Best stuff that I have found.  I use 50 volume now instead of the 40.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv103%2FPolrbear%2FPicture002-1.jpg&hash=eb1aea37616b1f655ece67086d855bf987a4d2bb)
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Wilderness Addict on December 23, 2013, 09:20:35 PM
40 volume is only 12 percent, Pygmy is using 35 percent
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: PolarBear on December 23, 2013, 10:35:19 PM
Yeah but what kind of damage is it doing to the bone?
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pygmy on December 23, 2013, 11:06:05 PM
No damage to the bone when removed after the desired whitening is achieved.  Too each his own.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pygmy on December 23, 2013, 11:14:20 PM
A few of my skulls I used the 35% H2O2 on.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on December 23, 2013, 11:30:56 PM
 Baquacil Oxidizer is 27% peroxide.  It says what it is on the container.

50 Volume hair developer is 15% peroxide

Look up the MSDS on both.

Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: blindluck on December 24, 2013, 10:39:15 AM
PYGMY, what did you do to your bear skull? is it dipped looks really cool I'd love to know.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: blindluck on December 24, 2013, 10:43:12 AM
Still wondering where to buy Baquacil Oxidizer and the best way to apply it. I'm assuming you submerge it to the antler base then use paper towel over the skull cap and pedical as a wick.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pygmy on December 24, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
Blindluck - I found this site selling the product:  http://www.swimmingpool-discounters.com/products-page/pool-chemicals/baquacil1/baquacil-oxidizer-shock (http://www.swimmingpool-discounters.com/products-page/pool-chemicals/baquacil1/baquacil-oxidizer-shock)
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: blindluck on December 24, 2013, 02:04:46 PM
Thanks pygmy
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: woodman on December 24, 2013, 02:49:51 PM
Yeah but what kind of damage is it doing to the bone?


I have seen some of pygmy's handiwork. I would trust what he has to say.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pygmy on December 24, 2013, 08:36:02 PM
PYGMY, what did you do to your bear skull? is it dipped looks really cool I'd love to know.

I used Sculpt Nouveaux's bronze metal to cover it.  Real metal.
http://www.sculptnouveau.com/ (http://www.sculptnouveau.com/)

Some examples of real metal skull painting:
http://www.montanaskullworks.com/metalizedskulls.html (http://www.montanaskullworks.com/metalizedskulls.html)
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pygmy on December 24, 2013, 08:43:34 PM
Here's another site doing the same thing.  This site was the reason I tried it myself.  I applied too much patina on the bear :o.  Doing this year's raghorn 3 pt bull elk in copper with green patina currently - trying to get better at it.

http://www.ironcladmetaleffects.com/Skullworks1.htm (http://www.ironcladmetaleffects.com/Skullworks1.htm)
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: blindluck on December 27, 2013, 04:31:27 PM
pygmy, I called the swimming pool company and they don't ship this stuff so I stopped by Aqua quip and found it, Kinda spendy $30.00 a gallon but it's local and available.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 27, 2013, 04:50:56 PM
I use Salon Care Professional 50 Volume Creme I bought at the local beauty supply place down the street.  They said they weren't supposed to sell it to me unless I had a beautician license, but I told them what it was for (and promised I wouldn't use it on anyone's head) and they let me buy two 32 oz bottles.  I've done 6 skulls with it, and it looks like I still have enough left for a couple more.
I like it because it's more like goop than liquid and when you pour it on, it stays and doesn't run off. 
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: splitshot on December 27, 2013, 05:20:54 PM
   do you paint the white skulls with varithain or other clear stuff.      mike w
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: blindluck on December 27, 2013, 06:10:09 PM
I use Salon Care Professional 50 Volume Creme I bought at the local beauty supply place down the street.  They said they weren't supposed to sell it to me unless I had a beautician license, but I told them what it was for (and promised I wouldn't use it on anyone's head) and they let me buy two 32 oz bottles.  I've done 6 skulls with it, and it looks like I still have enough left for a couple more.
I like it because it's more like goop than liquid and when you pour it on, it stays and doesn't run off.
hey pathfinder- my understanding is the cream developer does not work unless you mix it with the bleach powder basic white to form a paste then brush it on?
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Grizzly95 on December 28, 2013, 10:19:02 AM
We usually have about 1000 gallons of 35% peroxide on hand all the time where I work. Nasty stuff on the skin for sure!
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Hunter Dug on December 28, 2013, 10:49:26 AM
I use Salon Care Professional 50 Volume Creme I bought at the local beauty supply place down the street.  They said they weren't supposed to sell it to me unless I had a beautician license, but I told them what it was for (and promised I wouldn't use it on anyone's head) and they let me buy two 32 oz bottles.  I've done 6 skulls with it, and it looks like I still have enough left for a couple more.
I like it because it's more like goop than liquid and when you pour it on, it stays and doesn't run off.
hey pathfinder- my understanding is the cream developer does not work unless you mix it with the bleach powder basic white to form a paste then brush it on?

Not true.  You do not have to use the basic white.  I myself just use flour to thicken it up so it will stay in place.
Title: Re: Skull whitening
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 29, 2013, 08:10:17 PM
I use Salon Care Professional 50 Volume Creme I bought at the local beauty supply place down the street.  They said they weren't supposed to sell it to me unless I had a beautician license, but I told them what it was for (and promised I wouldn't use it on anyone's head) and they let me buy two 32 oz bottles.  I've done 6 skulls with it, and it looks like I still have enough left for a couple more.
I like it because it's more like goop than liquid and when you pour it on, it stays and doesn't run off.
hey pathfinder- my understanding is the cream developer does not work unless you mix it with the bleach powder basic white to form a paste then brush it on?

Not true.  You do not have to use the basic white.  I myself just use flour to thicken it up so it will stay in place.

The stuff I posted comes in a form slightly thicker than liquid (think pancake batter).  I put the skull in a plastic tub, pour it over the forehead and up inside the nose cavity, then use a small paintbrush to spread it into all the nooks and crannies.  Let it sit for a few hours, then take it out, rinse it off and let sit in direct sunlight until it dries fully. 
I don't use "bleach" anything.  I made a whitening mix years ago when I first started doing euro mounts that used some bleach... those two skulls I treated with it are falling apart in flakes as they hang...  never again... :bdid:
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