Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 24, 2013, 10:58:43 PM
I want answers about the Howa only please.
Thanks and have a Merry Christmas tomorrow.
Post by: loggerjim on December 24, 2013, 11:02:36 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on December 24, 2013, 11:06:04 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 24, 2013, 11:08:24 PM
Aren't they basically the same rifle?
That's what I'm thinking from what I've read. But, the Weatherby guarantees subMOA with their ammo and Howa doesn't. Howas are about $40 cheaper, so I'm leaning towards the Weatherby.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 24, 2013, 11:12:01 PM
Post by: simondude on December 24, 2013, 11:12:18 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 24, 2013, 11:12:54 PM
I had a CZ .204. and liked it until I got my AR 20 LBC done. (6.5 Grendel case necked down to .204) That's all I carry now. I just finished a 6mmX6.8 SPC, and it shoots nice, but I still prefer my 20. :twocents:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 24, 2013, 11:27:37 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 24, 2013, 11:33:06 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 24, 2013, 11:40:22 PM
The Howa can be bought as just the barreled action, and then you have all kinds of options for really cool aftermarket stocks. You might check into going that route.
I did see that option too. That could be the best way to go.
Post by: loggerjim on December 24, 2013, 11:44:48 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 24, 2013, 11:58:36 PM
Post by: Larry S. on December 27, 2013, 02:33:33 PM
My third Howa Model 1500 - this time in 30-06 - came stamped with a "Vanguard S2" label and with a handload for 165 gr Nosler Accubonds, it will also cloverleaf the rounds at 100 yards - again, when I can.
Continuing in this vein, a newcomer to hunting friend of mine was presented with a Model 1500 in 30-06 - again an older Smith & Wesson version - and, after a bit of tuning, it shoots sub-MOA with Sierra Game Kings.
The bottom line is that I believe these are the most underrated, unappreciated, un-talked about, unknown, unrecognized, and under sold rifles out there. They don't get the advertising other rifles get nor do they get the word of mouth respect they deserve. Fine. That keeps the price down.
For myself, I'll never let mine go and I will stand them up to any hunting rifle out there. If the purpose of your rifle is to reliably hit what you're shooting at, fire each and every time the trigger is pulled, not spend the mortgage paying for it, and not having to worry about nicking or scratching a beautifully crafted stock that has an action attached, this is your rifle.
Larry Simoneaux
Post by: jasnt on December 27, 2013, 02:42:26 PM
As stated earlier the weatherby and howa are the same action. Any stockthat fits howa/weatherby will fit. Lots of options out there. My next stock will be a b&c A5
Forgot to mention mine is 300wm. If your wanting this rifle for wolf and a 6mm then id look at 243 win. Lots of bullet options and ammo can be found easily :twocents:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 27, 2013, 02:46:34 PM
I wanted to hear the HOWA owners reviews and they sound very promising. I wish I could get a 30-378 Weatherby in a HOWA, I think I'd be in hog heaven......
Thanks for the replies......
Post by: whacker1 on December 27, 2013, 02:51:12 PM
The Weatherby Vanguard and Howa 1500 are the same rifle. I don't have either one, but I can tell you, I love those 20's.
I have a 22-250 Howa 1500 and my only complaint is that action is heavy as compared to other options. It shoots great and for the price it is a great bargain. But if I did it over again, I think I would have bought something lighter in Rem 700. I can't speak to the higher lines of weatherby as they are a different action.
Post by: Huntbear on December 27, 2013, 03:14:58 PM
My nephew has a 1500 in .338 WM. Shoots awesome, and that rubber feel stock is great for wet weather.
Post by: furbearer365 on December 27, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 27, 2013, 05:02:00 PM
I have one in 223 with a thumbhole stock. I had the whole gun/scope camo dipped, new trigger, and hand loaded up a killer 55 grain hornady round and I wouldn't trade that gun for nothing. Nickel size 5 round group at 200, buy a Howa
Ahhhhhhh, I noticed your post count is 666............yikes !!
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 27, 2013, 08:38:39 PM
I have one in 223 with a thumbhole stock. I had the whole gun/scope camo dipped, new trigger, and hand loaded up a killer 55 grain hornady round and I wouldn't trade that gun for nothing. Nickel size 5 round group at 200, buy a Howa
Ahhhhhhh, I noticed your post count is 666............yikes !!
Gee Camp--Don't you know it's bad luck to be superstitious! :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 27, 2013, 09:03:48 PM
I have one in 223 with a thumbhole stock. I had the whole gun/scope camo dipped, new trigger, and hand loaded up a killer 55 grain hornady round and I wouldn't trade that gun for nothing. Nickel size 5 round group at 200, buy a Howa
Oh, I'm not. I have a black cat........ :tup:
Ahhhhhhh, I noticed your post count is 666............yikes !!
Gee Camp--Don't you know it's bad luck to be superstitious! :chuckle:
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 27, 2013, 09:26:23 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 27, 2013, 09:31:48 PM
A guy who has a Howa just bought a Timney Trigger for his gun. Said it would be a big improvement over the stock trigger. The same trigger fits the Weatherby Vanguard rifle. I don't think you can go wrong with either gun. Just a matter of what caliber. I'd get a .243, since you'll probably like it so much that you'll want to hunt deer with it too. :twocents:
I want something that I don't already have a caliber in and that pretty much has the same ballistics that I already own. I want an 500-1000 yard shooter. My 6.5 Creedmoor will already do that. I'm looking online and I'm coming up with nothing....... :'(
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 27, 2013, 09:35:30 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 27, 2013, 09:49:03 PM
I think I'll get a 300 RUM since I already have a few vermin guns.
:chuckle: :chuckle: A big guy like you can probably handle that! I have a friend that loves that round, for shooting across canyons. His last name is Rumsey, so I call it the 300 Rumsey... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 27, 2013, 10:06:02 PM
I think I'll get a 300 RUM since I already have a few vermin guns.
:chuckle: :chuckle: A big guy like you can probably handle that! I have a friend that loves that round, for shooting across canyons. His last name is Rumsey, so I call it the 300 Rumsey... :chuckle: :chuckle:
I need a big gun for elk hunting since I'm retired/disabled and can't chase elk. I want them to drop in their tracks.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 27, 2013, 10:17:27 PM
I think I'll get a 300 RUM since I already have a few vermin guns.
:chuckle: :chuckle: A big guy like you can probably handle that! I have a friend that loves that round, for shooting across canyons. His last name is Rumsey, so I call it the 300 Rumsey... :chuckle: :chuckle:
I need a big gun for elk hunting since I'm retired/disabled and can't chase elk. I want them to drop in their tracks.
That should do it! Just don't be like the guy that took his .300 RUM to the range to sight it in and complained that the gun wouldn't group worth a darn. When he packed up and left, he left his brass there, and it turned out he bought a box of .300 Win Mag ammo. That brass sure had a short neck! :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 28, 2013, 06:50:16 AM
I think I'll get a 300 RUM since I already have a few vermin guns.
:chuckle: :chuckle: A big guy like you can probably handle that! I have a friend that loves that round, for shooting across canyons. His last name is Rumsey, so I call it the 300 Rumsey... :chuckle: :chuckle:
I need a big gun for elk hunting since I'm retired/disabled and can't chase elk. I want them to drop in their tracks.
That should do it! Just don't be like the guy that took his .300 RUM to the range to sight it in and complained that the gun wouldn't group worth a darn. When he packed up and left, he left his brass there, and it turned out he bought a box of .300 Win Mag ammo. That brass sure had a short neck! :chuckle:
...............and some people are allowed to buy a gun !
Post by: 2ndtimer on December 28, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 28, 2013, 05:13:47 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 28, 2013, 06:14:39 PM
Post by: superdown on December 28, 2013, 06:47:18 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 29, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
Sounds like a good deal, if the FFL transfer fees don't kill you...
$20.............
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 29, 2013, 08:02:37 PM
Sounds like a good deal, if the FFL transfer fees don't kill you...
$20.............
That sounds good! :tup:
Post by: b23 on December 30, 2013, 11:56:45 AM
I think the word got out that Howa made good stuff because they're about double in price of what they used to be and the used stuff goes for as much as a Rem. model 700 so building a good semi custom and saving a few hundred bucks by using a Howa receiver is a thing of the past.
Something to keep in mind before you buy a Howa or any Howa made but renamed rifle/s is they have Metric barrel threads and if you ever want to have one re-barreled not all "Smiths" can cut Metric threads. Also, they don't have near the aftermarket parts availability that a Rem. model 700 does but short of those two things, they're as good as any factory receiver and better than most.
Post by: ckr on December 30, 2013, 12:02:50 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 30, 2013, 04:44:08 PM
Post by: 2labs on January 01, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
I've been looking at a Weatherby 240 S2 or a Howa 1500 in 204. Does anyone have a Howa and if so, do you like it, good, bad and ugly ? I want either for wolf hunting. I already have a Weatherby 257 mag, but I want a 6mm.
I want answers about the Howa only please.
Thanks and have a Merry Christmas tomorrow.
I have a howa .204 and it has become my favorite gun. Very accurate well built rifle. Take it over a newer 700. Also has a very adjustable trigger
Post by: T-Dozzer on January 04, 2014, 08:44:49 AM
I did a lot of research first, but did not expect to get such a shooter!
The barrel is fully floated and with good glass and ammo it shoots beyond my capabilities.
The action is a little loose or almost sloppy feeling, but I'm pretty picky.
I find my self grabbing this gun out of the safe more often than planned. Actually took my last two deer with it.
Very under rated gun. Would recommend it.
Post by: buck man on January 04, 2014, 08:30:05 PM