Post by: addicted2hunting on December 29, 2013, 12:35:12 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on December 29, 2013, 12:42:26 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 29, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 29, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
Post by: addicted2hunting on December 29, 2013, 12:56:19 PM
Post by: go4steelhd on December 29, 2013, 12:59:39 PM
But I feel that way every...
Post by: trophyhunt on December 29, 2013, 01:37:41 PM
Post by: go4steelhd on December 29, 2013, 01:57:19 PM
This year I will have 6 points in the draw
Post by: Ductsquatch on December 30, 2013, 05:41:45 AM
I know nothing about tag drawings, but looks like I will fiind out.
What are the "points" you talk about? How do you get them and how do you use them?
Sorry if them thar greenhorn questions git ya riled up there but I gotsta know! :yike:
small edit here......I can see from being to the site and reading the faq I am going to be more confused than ever.
Post by: Expedition Scout on December 31, 2013, 04:56:32 AM
Points are awarded each year you submit and don't get drawn. They are supposed to help you get drawn above others the following year. In the reg next to the GMU you should see two numbers... (applicants/point to draw). It helps to find a GMU with low numbers in both!! :tup: But that isn't always possible with hunt areas that are local.
The area I hunt has approximately 230 applicants for 25 permits. On average, points are 2 before you get a tag... that would be every 3 years.
I received a tag last year, so I'm back to helping a friend get his until I draw again! Still get to hunt bear in the fall with the tag you purchase.
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 31, 2013, 08:02:35 AM
Post by: h20hunter on December 31, 2013, 08:03:43 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 31, 2013, 08:06:29 AM
Will put in probably for points only......Besides, nobody shoots any good sized bears....only little ones.right. Skinny spring bears.
Post by: h20hunter on December 31, 2013, 08:10:15 AM
Actually....I think last spring saw a greater number of big bears. There was one Skagit hog that comes to mind. Mine out of Monroe was no slouch. I think the earlier green up and slightly extended seasons in a few of the areas helped out a bunch. I'll be ghosting, bro in law putting in for Monroe.
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 31, 2013, 08:14:09 AM
Post by: h20hunter on December 31, 2013, 08:21:47 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 31, 2013, 08:22:54 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 31, 2013, 08:26:24 AM
Post by: Ductsquatch on December 31, 2013, 10:13:20 AM
Post by: h20hunter on December 31, 2013, 10:18:06 AM
You shot him in the barrel huh? Tell us the truth don't be ashamed.
Nah, didn't shoot him off the barrell. However, from where I shot him I know a barrell was about 3/4 of a mile away as the crow flies. Hard terrain to cover for a hunter but a bear could have for sure. I talked with Turner and the main property manager and they had a boar that ripped the barrell off a tree and jacked it all up. Could have been the same boar. I plan to ask the fella next time I see him up there if they had any more problems with an onery one.
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 01, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
Post by: Cap.Silver on January 01, 2014, 12:07:31 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 01, 2014, 12:10:21 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 01, 2014, 12:47:29 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 01, 2014, 12:52:02 PM
Post by: woodman on January 01, 2014, 01:09:06 PM
Post by: Expedition Scout on January 01, 2014, 01:35:01 PM
I like spring bear hunting for the sheds also. Found these and a few others during spring bear 2013.
Now how cool is that! :tup:
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 01, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 01, 2014, 01:46:03 PM
I like spring bear hunting for the sheds also. Found these and a few others during spring bear 2013.
You lucky SOB........
Post by: woodman on January 01, 2014, 02:03:55 PM
I like spring bear hunting for the sheds also. Found these and a few others during spring bear 2013.
You lucky SOB........
Thanks! :)
While spring bear hunting last year I took a picture of a sow with triplets that was a co-winner of the May photo contest here.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 01, 2014, 02:13:33 PM
Would a spring bear make for a good first bear? I'm at three points and counting, hoping this is my year
Heck yes! Spring bears will have a lot nicer coat then most of the fall bears taken. Less likely to have major rubs and the hair is very thick and lush.
Post by: saylean on January 01, 2014, 02:17:27 PM
Post by: Tman on January 01, 2014, 02:36:08 PM
Post by: 180-GRAIN on January 01, 2014, 05:04:34 PM
Post by: klikboom on January 01, 2014, 05:45:22 PM
Is still a death dealing virgin. I'm super stoked for spring bear and hope
My 6 points will get her done!
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on January 01, 2014, 06:02:50 PM
Post by: actionshooter on January 01, 2014, 07:13:18 PM
Post by: Expedition Scout on January 03, 2014, 08:46:56 AM
Post by: Killmore on January 03, 2014, 08:48:37 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 03, 2014, 08:56:58 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 03, 2014, 09:03:58 AM
To improve your drawing odds, please let this topic die...you mean this topic reminding people when the deadline is?
Post by: h20hunter on January 03, 2014, 09:05:02 AM
D-Rock....don't tell anyone the bear in my pic was out during daylight hours just at the end of the season in the MONROE unit.
Shhh.....don't tell.
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 03, 2014, 09:07:23 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 03, 2014, 09:08:57 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on January 03, 2014, 09:09:23 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 03, 2014, 09:33:18 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 03, 2014, 09:34:05 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 03, 2014, 09:35:32 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 03, 2014, 09:37:34 AM
Never shot a bear before...I may have to put in for this Monroe tag you all are talking about..
yep hottest spring bear tag in the state! :tup:
Post by: jason stevens on January 03, 2014, 09:41:08 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 03, 2014, 09:41:17 AM
Will you even help me?
Yep...I sure would.
Don't listen to Boss....the Skagit tag is the hot ticket! What does he know anyway...probably only shoots flies!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 03, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
Will you even help me?
Yep...I sure would.
Don't listen to Boss....the Skagit tag is the hot ticket! What does he know anyway...probably only shoots flies!
Skagit bears are all gone, my son shot the last one last year. :chuckle:
And that fly gun only works when flies are sitting. >:( >:( >:(
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 03, 2014, 09:47:33 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 03, 2014, 09:50:24 AM
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 03, 2014, 10:12:11 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on January 03, 2014, 10:18:39 AM
Post by: jason stevens on January 03, 2014, 10:28:58 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on January 03, 2014, 10:29:57 AM
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 03, 2014, 10:30:22 AM
Where is the information on the fish and wildlife website? I have never done it and wanted to look into what is available. I think I am blind. I can't seem to locate it.I figured out on my own not 30 minutes ago. Since the regs aren't out for 2014 go to your 2013 regs and black bear hunting. You will find the units open there. Then I went here https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/license (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/license) and purchased it online then https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt) here to submit it. Hope this helps you.
Post by: jason stevens on January 03, 2014, 10:33:04 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 03, 2014, 04:01:54 PM
Post by: Buckmark on January 03, 2014, 04:16:30 PM
I applied under a fake name so I can steal someone's identity that gets drawn. Be forwarned.............. :chuckle:Hey i put in for 101 again, hopefully this year we can put some of these calls i have to good use... :)
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 03, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
I applied under a fake name so I can steal someone's identity that gets drawn. Be forwarned.............. :chuckle:Hey i put in for 101 again, hopefully this year we can put some of these calls i have to good use... :)
Well Frank, you slip in and out of this unit like a cat. I always find out later if you've been here..........
Post by: jason stevens on January 03, 2014, 04:44:55 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 03, 2014, 04:50:16 PM
If there's anything in the 101 the kid will put in for it .start looking steve she's one for one with you .
Just let this old fart know, I'm all in .
Post by: jason stevens on January 03, 2014, 04:57:51 PM
Post by: Buckmark on January 03, 2014, 05:02:27 PM
Ninja man, ninja..... :chuckle:I applied under a fake name so I can steal someone's identity that gets drawn. Be forwarned.............. :chuckle:Hey i put in for 101 again, hopefully this year we can put some of these calls i have to good use... :)
Well Frank, you slip in and out of this unit like a cat. I always find out later if you've been here..........
If they would give us some in 204 i could sit in a lawn chair....
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 03, 2014, 05:17:56 PM
Sorry Sorry Sorry, had to do it :chuckle:
Post by: Maverick on January 03, 2014, 05:24:32 PM
Post by: jason stevens on January 03, 2014, 08:27:15 PM
Post by: X-Force on January 03, 2014, 10:31:25 PM
Are the result out yet? :chuckle:
Sorry Sorry Sorry, had to do it :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: and your first
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 03, 2014, 10:43:58 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 04, 2014, 11:03:38 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 04, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
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Post by: mulehunter on January 04, 2014, 11:41:41 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 04, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on January 04, 2014, 01:18:12 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 04, 2014, 03:40:14 PM
I have 7points! Hope this is my year!you guys with 7 points should be drawing ! That is a lot of points for spring bear, I hope you guys draw.
Post by: whackmaster on January 04, 2014, 03:49:56 PM
I've never drawn but have four points .never killed a bear.can't wait this is my year .1st and only choice for you is monroe i will show you where c-post is :IBCOOL:
Post by: h20hunter on January 05, 2014, 07:49:44 AM
Post by: Ccortez on January 06, 2014, 10:28:42 AM
I haven't see a "due by" date for spring apps but I'm figuring it is on or around Feb 23 based on last years dates. There is time to put in. I'll be ghosting it this year but will be out and about in the Monroe unit and looking to pass on intel.
February 28th
Post by: saylean on January 07, 2014, 09:25:19 PM
:chuckle:Are the result out yet? :chuckle:
Sorry Sorry Sorry, had to do it :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: and your first
:tup:
Post by: Ductsquatch on January 07, 2014, 09:49:13 PM
:chuckle:Are the result out yet? :chuckle:
Sorry Sorry Sorry, had to do it :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: and your first
2 weeks............... :yike:
:tup:
Post by: pd on January 07, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
First comes the "when/how do we apply?" questions.
Next comes the "when is the deadline?" questions.
Then the draw results questions.
Then, a month wait for the season to open.
Then, hundreds of posts between a couple of fellas about a bear. Same two guys. Entertaining, truly, but sheer pain for those of us who didn't draw.
Good luck, all!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 07, 2014, 09:58:58 PM
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on January 07, 2014, 10:06:35 PM
Post by: deaner on January 07, 2014, 10:15:34 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 08, 2014, 07:52:08 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 08, 2014, 08:00:38 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 08, 2014, 08:00:51 AM
Post by: Cap.Silver on January 08, 2014, 08:06:24 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 16, 2014, 03:02:15 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 17, 2014, 11:53:21 AM
I am back to zero as well this year, plus MrMykiss killed MY bear so I don't have much hope for this year :chuckle: I would like to find this dude again though! I don't know how old he is but his damn muzzle is all grey and talk about sway back and potbellied! If the blonde sow keeps that color she would eat a bullet this year though!My bad yo :sry:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 17, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
Haha!!! I'm glad you killed that beast! If I didn't want him dead I wouldn't have sent you the map! No shortage of bears in that spot. I hope you pet him from time to time just for me :chuckle:I am back to zero as well this year, plus MrMykiss killed MY bear so I don't have much hope for this year :chuckle: I would like to find this dude again though! I don't know how old he is but his damn muzzle is all grey and talk about sway back and potbellied! If the blonde sow keeps that color she would eat a bullet this year though!My bad yo :sry:
Post by: HoofsandWings on January 21, 2014, 03:22:14 PM
I no longer can hunt by myself. Of course, if I don't get drawn the point is moot and I will have 6 points next year.
Post by: h20hunter on January 21, 2014, 03:24:52 PM
Post by: eldplanko on January 22, 2014, 02:40:15 PM
No good bears left after last season....other than this one......
Why'd you have to remind me of this pic... I'll have to put in for Monroe again.
Post by: h20hunter on January 22, 2014, 02:44:04 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on January 22, 2014, 03:37:20 PM
What unit would you be putting in for Hoofs?NorthSkagit, but I am starting to get cold feet.
I am not sure if I can shoot without hurting my shoulder.
I saw my physical therapist today and he was skeptical.
I checked my points and I have 6. Next year it will be 7.
I would love to hunt Sherman. I know where the bears are. When we used to deer hunt there, we called this one area bear condos. More than a dozen caves.
Post by: deaner on January 22, 2014, 04:04:14 PM
Post by: ghostshell on January 23, 2014, 05:09:17 PM
Post by: Decker on January 23, 2014, 09:27:33 PM
I have heard that if two hunters put in and the first has 3 points, and the second has 1 point, they are averaged out in the draw, (which would be 2 points) so they get 4 chances. I have heard that chances are points squared. Is this true?
If I put in as a group leader I'm assuming my buddy has to put in on my application, for my designated units, that he doesn't get to also choose 4 units and get an additional 4 chances, right?
By myself I would get 9, if the last paragraph were right, we would each have 4 chances, so a total of 8 - but thinking that is wrong.
Any help would be appreciated.
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on January 24, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 24, 2014, 12:13:42 PM
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on January 24, 2014, 12:17:19 PM
I don't think both people get put in I believe its just the group leader. Otherwise groups would have a huge advantage in the draw.Yeah you may be right on that part. I don't know for sure though.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 24, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
I don't think both people get put in I believe its just the group leader. Otherwise groups would have a huge advantage in the draw.
5. Decide if Applying as an Individual or
Group...
Decide if you want to apply as an individual,
as the leader of a group, or as a member of a
group. If you want to apply as a member of a
group, you must choose a group leader. The
leader of the group must submit his or her
application before the members of the group
can submit their applications.
When applying as a group, each member
must be eligible for the hunts that the group is
applying for. If a group application is selected
for permits, all of the hunters in the group
receive a permit and each hunter can take
an animal. The points accumulated by each
hunter in the group are averaged and applied
to the group application.If the number of permits available in a hunt
category is less than the maximum group size,
then the maximum group size is equal to the
number of permits.
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 24, 2014, 12:22:57 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 24, 2014, 12:30:26 PM
I don't think both people get put in I believe its just the group leader. Otherwise groups would have a huge advantage in the draw.
5. Decide if Applying as an Individual or
Group...
Decide if you want to apply as an individual,
as the leader of a group, or as a member of a
group. If you want to apply as a member of a
group, you must choose a group leader. The
leader of the group must submit his or her
application before the members of the group
can submit their applications.
When applying as a group, each member
must be eligible for the hunts that the group is
applying for. If a group application is selected
for permits, all of the hunters in the group
receive a permit and each hunter can take
an animal. The points accumulated by each
hunter in the group are averaged and applied
to the group application.If the number of permits available in a hunt
category is less than the maximum group size,
then the maximum group size is equal to the
number of permits.
I get that what I'm saying is if you have a group of 12 not all 12 guys get put in the drawing. You only 1 group member in the drawing but if drawn the whole group gets drawn.
Points are averaged from all points of members in group putting in under group leaders application, if he is drawn then all get permits.
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 24, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
Post by: Decker on January 24, 2014, 03:07:31 PM
This leads me to another question about maximizing your odds by which units you select. I saw a post on here a couple years back that basically said you should either put your unit preference in order of most-likely to draw to most-difficult, or the other way around. Does anyone have a link to that discussion? When I had 3 points a few years ago, I went by that format and was drawn.
Thanks!
Post by: jason stevens on January 26, 2014, 12:31:41 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 26, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
Post by: jason stevens on January 26, 2014, 01:29:13 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 26, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 26, 2014, 01:42:35 PM
Post by: jason stevens on January 26, 2014, 02:19:30 PM
Because even with 10 points you are in a hat with more people that have 1 point or more. 10 is just a figure, but way more people with lower points are applying than guys with 10 or more. Even with your points being exponentially calculated, your still up against thousands of names in the hat. I have 19 this year for elk, I lost my confidence in the system years ago. It's a joke!one would think you would automatically get chosen with higher point value then start over then it would rotate accordingly not names in a hat. Not fair for guys with 19 points and a gut with one gets drawn jmo.
Post by: trophyhunt on January 26, 2014, 02:36:37 PM
you won't get an argument from me, I think quality hunts should be for guys with 10 or more points only. But that's been another subject that will get brought up every year.Because even with 10 points you are in a hat with more people that have 1 point or more. 10 is just a figure, but way more people with lower points are applying than guys with 10 or more. Even with your points being exponentially calculated, your still up against thousands of names in the hat. I have 19 this year for elk, I lost my confidence in the system years ago. It's a joke!one would think you would automatically get chosen with higher point value then start over then it would rotate accordingly not names in a hat. Not fair for guys with 19 points and a gut with one gets drawn jmo.