Post by: Biggerhammer on December 30, 2013, 06:54:18 PM
I have several questions.
(1) Can I purchase a out of state license without applying?
(2) Does one just apply for Unit 11, is Unit 11 a general season or a permit only unit?
(3) When is the deadline for 2014 Unit 11 applications?
Post by: JLS on December 30, 2013, 07:00:46 PM
Unit 11 is all special permit.
I can't remember the deadline of the top of my head. All the states kind of blur together over time.
There are no big bucks in Unit 11, the wolves ate them all.
Post by: bobcat on December 30, 2013, 07:02:03 PM
2) Unit 11 is a permit only hunt for mule deer.
3) Deadline is June 5th
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/hunt/rules/?getPage=63 (http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/hunt/rules/?getPage=63)
Post by: Bob33 on December 30, 2013, 07:06:09 PM
1) yes, you have to purchase a hunting license in order to apply for a deer tag.$154 + $301.
Post by: trophyhunt on December 30, 2013, 07:07:42 PM
Post by: JLS on December 30, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 30, 2013, 07:22:07 PM
The way I read it, I purchase the license. Apply(No fee) and pay for the deer tag if drawn. I may be off here but it's all a little confusing.
Post by: bobcat on December 30, 2013, 07:26:46 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 30, 2013, 07:34:50 PM
I was just going through the info on the link Bobcat provided. I can purchase the out of state license, do I need to purchase the deer tag up front before applying or do I purchase it if I am drawn?Your understanding is correct.
The way I read it, I purchase the license. Apply(No fee) and pay for the deer tag if drawn. I may be off here but it's all a little confusing.
"Successful applicants for deer, elk, fall black bear or pronghorn controlled hunts must purchase their controlled hunt tag not later than August 1, at any license vendor, Fish and Game office, through the Internet, or by telephone at 800-554-8685. "
Post by: Mr Mykiss on December 30, 2013, 07:36:59 PM
That being said...somebody has got to draw it :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: kentrek on December 30, 2013, 07:46:52 PM
I think you can buy a general deer tag now, and if drawn for the controlled hunt, you trade the general tag for the controlled tag. That way you know you can at least hunt deer in Idaho, even if you don't draw. But there is no requirement to pay for the deer tag before you draw. Unit 11 is a tough draw.
:yeah:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 30, 2013, 07:51:10 PM
Unit 11 tags...its kinda like the guy who says "somebody has got to win" when talking about the latest Powerball jackpot. Sure you could draw the unit 11 rut tag but you'll probably go your whole life without ever drawing it.
That being said...somebody has got to draw it :chuckle: :chuckle:
You know it! My understanding is, that it's a straight draw and Idaho has no "Points system". Starting this late in the game, I like the odds of that over a points system. :tup:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 30, 2013, 08:38:17 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on December 30, 2013, 08:40:13 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 30, 2013, 08:56:42 PM
These guys are pulling your leg. You have to fill out 3 forms, each 17 pages, submit a non-refundable $3000 application fee and then score a 95 or higher on the written exam before you can submit an application. You should also know that there will be no deer tags offered in unit 11 for the next 5 years to offset the decrease in per capita income of rodeo clowns in Bangladesh. Oh, and even when they offer tags again you should know the bucks are really little crab claw fellas with hardly any mass.
Guess I'll just apply for Elk and deer watch during the slow parts of the day. :tup:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 31, 2013, 09:12:37 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 31, 2013, 05:44:19 PM
In all its real easy to apply for controlled hunts in idaho. Easier than wa. I would recfomend you apply for elk and deer since you are already buying the license anyways. Then if you don't draw you can decide if you want to hunt otc. When its time to apply you can shoot me a pm if you want and I can help you through it. I have been apply ing the last 3 years and will continue to do so. Its nive to have decent draw odds for a change. Even the unit 11 deer tags have much better odds than say entiat or desert here in wa.
Thanks! I will get ahold of you. I going to start applying for deer and elk, I'm not dead set on my areas yet. I need to take the time/ find the time and do some research. I agree, I'll take my chances in a open draw any day over a points system.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 04, 2014, 11:41:51 AM
Post by: BrettinWen on January 05, 2014, 09:33:41 AM
The problem is you have to buy a license that costs $150 just to put your name in the hat for a permit that's next to impossible to draw. Those guys talking about powerball and state lottery are right, the odds are about the same. Then you're going to have to go through the same disappointment you go through in Washington when you don't draw except you're also out $150 with nothing to show for it.
There's a couple other things you need to consider. The Hell's Canyon wolf pack crossed over the salmon river a few years ago and are working over the deer herd in a big way. In 2013 for the first time they had an early cow hunt from Oct. 1-9 which pushes the few crab claw bucks left into the depths of hell. To go after them you'll need to be insane and/or have hooves instead of feet. Imagine country so steep you'll wish you didn't have ankles! :yike:
My advice, save your money and be satisfied with the annual dose of disappointment you get from the WDFW.
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 05, 2014, 12:24:54 PM
Post by: JLS on January 05, 2014, 09:32:38 PM
which pushes the few crab claw bucks left into the depths of hell.
That's some funny stuff :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 06, 2014, 10:37:22 AM
The entire post was very comical.which pushes the few crab claw bucks left into the depths of hell.
That's some funny stuff :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on January 06, 2014, 10:46:19 AM
Post by: huntnnw on January 06, 2014, 09:43:42 PM
:bdid:
The problem is you have to buy a license that costs $150 just to put your name in the hat for a permit that's next to impossible to draw. Those guys talking about powerball and state lottery are right, the odds are about the same. Then you're going to have to go through the same disappointment you go through in Washington when you don't draw except you're also out $150 with nothing to show for it.
There's a couple other things you need to consider. The Hell's Canyon wolf pack crossed over the salmon river a few years ago and are working over the deer herd in a big way. In 2013 for the first time they had an early cow hunt from Oct. 1-9 which pushes the few crab claw bucks left into the depths of hell. To go after them you'll need to be insane and/or have hooves instead of feet. Imagine country so steep you'll wish you didn't have ankles! :yike:
My advice, save your money and be satisfied with the annual dose of disappointment you get from the WDFW.
theres a bunch of bad info
Post by: idahohuntr on January 06, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
you hush. its all good info :chuckle::bdid:
The problem is you have to buy a license that costs $150 just to put your name in the hat for a permit that's next to impossible to draw. Those guys talking about powerball and state lottery are right, the odds are about the same. Then you're going to have to go through the same disappointment you go through in Washington when you don't draw except you're also out $150 with nothing to show for it.
There's a couple other things you need to consider. The Hell's Canyon wolf pack crossed over the salmon river a few years ago and are working over the deer herd in a big way. In 2013 for the first time they had an early cow hunt from Oct. 1-9 which pushes the few crab claw bucks left into the depths of hell. To go after them you'll need to be insane and/or have hooves instead of feet. Imagine country so steep you'll wish you didn't have ankles! :yike:
My advice, save your money and be satisfied with the annual dose of disappointment you get from the WDFW.
theres a bunch of bad info
seems to be above average chatter about unit 11 this year...not just on this forum...wonder what draw odds will be this year :dunno:
Post by: tjthebest on January 06, 2014, 10:11:28 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 07, 2014, 08:24:47 AM
seems to be above average chatter about unit 11 this year...not just on this forum...wonder what draw odds will be this year :dunno:I wouldn't mind everybody putting in for 11, 13 and 18... :chuckle:
Post by: Todd_ID on January 07, 2014, 08:48:34 AM
I agree! Leave the good units off their apps.seems to be above average chatter about unit 11 this year...not just on this forum...wonder what draw odds will be this year :dunno:I wouldn't mind everybody putting in for 11, 13 and 18... :chuckle:
Post by: SteelheadDC on March 27, 2014, 04:37:19 PM
Post by: deerdog on March 29, 2014, 08:39:48 AM
Just to clarify if I want to put in for sheep in Idaho, I cannot put in for deer draw? But still buy OTC. And it looks to me that some areas a deer tag will work for whitetail or muley, but if you buy a whitetail tag it is obviously only good for whitetail. Is that because there are areas open later for whitetail only tags? Otherwise wouldnt you be better off having a deer tag? I am new to Idaho but tired of the numbers game for Washington. Although they will still get my money, I may be educated but still dumb enough to play.
That's correct if you apply for sheep you can not apply for deer,elk, or antelope. Also correct on the whitetail tag they are only good for whitetails but in some areas the whitetail only season runs longer than the regular deer season. but with the regular tag you are allowed to harvest either a whitetail or mule deer with that tag. You can also use your deer tag to harvest a bear,cougar, or wolf if you choose.
Post by: pd on March 29, 2014, 11:19:27 AM
you hush. its all good info :chuckle:
theres a bunch of bad info
You guys realize the Hell's Canyon herds are genetically the same as those in the Blue Mountains, don't you? In both cases, there ain't nuttin' left, wooves ate 'em all.
Area 11 is great for both deer and elk. Just chose your species, pay the $154 up front, apply for a tag, and then hunt OTC in another area if you don't get drawn. By the way, you get a free 3-day fishing license with your hunting license, so spend a long weekend in August or September when the rivers are low and have a great time fly fishing. That's my plan. :tup:
Post by: cougarbart on March 29, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Post by: cougarbart on March 29, 2014, 11:57:09 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on March 29, 2014, 12:42:56 PM
Post by: cougarbart on March 29, 2014, 12:50:01 PM
Post by: pd on March 30, 2014, 10:20:56 AM
Lol! There's some great deer in there but just letting people know there's a reason for that! I think people think oh the hardest part is drawing! The drawing is probably the easiest and cheapest part of that unit!
Advice from an honest man.
I don't own a horse, or a boat. If I draw, will you be my buddy??
Post by: huntnnw on March 30, 2014, 10:05:15 PM
Post by: pd on April 03, 2014, 09:06:56 PM
Here is the special hunt details. http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/docs/rules/bgDeerCH.pdf (http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/docs/rules/bgDeerCH.pdf)
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/hunt/rules/?getPage=63 (http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/hunt/rules/?getPage=63)
Post by: Mr Mykiss on April 04, 2014, 09:13:28 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on April 05, 2014, 08:23:02 AM
Area 11 is great for both deer and elk.one thing to watch for on the bull tags if you don't enjoy crowds...last year (and this year) they have 150 cow tags open in that unit for the 9 days preceding the bull hunt...then 200 new cow tag holders seasons start on the same days as the bull hunt. the few years prior to this the bull guys were the only tags open for a 10 day period which meant way fewer hunters...hopefully they get bull:cow ratios back in check and go back to a more "premium" bull tag setup.
Post by: huntnnw on April 06, 2014, 09:26:56 PM
Post by: pd on April 06, 2014, 10:51:25 PM
I though we decided that we're all applying for unit 11 :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
It seems to me there are about 6 guys on this thread, and MAYBE none of us are applying for cow/bull tags in 11 or 18, or MAYBE NOT.
Post by: cougarbart on April 09, 2014, 08:31:40 AM