Post by: mwhunter on January 01, 2014, 02:18:13 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on January 01, 2014, 02:41:00 PM
Post by: Kazekurt on January 01, 2014, 02:46:38 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 01, 2014, 02:48:40 PM
Have any of the deer been posted?No
Post by: Kazekurt on January 01, 2014, 02:53:51 PM
Bummer! The mule deer pic is the one I look forward to the most.Have any of the deer been posted?No
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 01, 2014, 03:04:39 PM
Any word on the guys with the high dollar tags or with this crappy year did they eat some spendy tag soup would suck if they didI wouldnt call this a crappy year. Its been a great year for big animals!:twocents:
Post by: Dan-o on January 01, 2014, 03:37:50 PM
Too bad, because I love to see the pics....
OFFICIAL DISCLAIMER: If I had the $$, I'd buy the Gov tags, so I can't blame anyone else. I sure can oogle the pics, though.
Post by: buglebuster on January 01, 2014, 04:36:59 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 01, 2014, 04:39:12 PM
I dont think the mule deer tag got filled :dunno:Yes it did.
Post by: SkookumHntr on January 01, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 01, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
You keep pretty close tabs on these tags dont ya :chuckle:Close enough. :chuckle:
Post by: REHJWA on January 01, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Any details you can share? :dunno:I dont think the mule deer tag got filled :dunno:Yes it did.
Post by: buglebuster on January 01, 2014, 05:10:53 PM
:yeah:Any details you can share? :dunno:I dont think the mule deer tag got filled :dunno:Yes it did.
Post by: huntnphool on January 01, 2014, 05:31:34 PM
Unfortunately guys, these threads always go south over something, regardless any outcome, which is why less info/pics are shared every year.:yeah:Any details you can share? :dunno:I dont think the mule deer tag got filled :dunno:Yes it did.
With that being said, he got nice bucks and is happy.
Post by: idahohuntr on January 01, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
You do provide a ton of credible info on this forum and I think its cool you stay so informed on these tags...but I always wonder how you do that :chuckle: Lots of guide friends? Or all of the guys who buy these tags talk to you about places to hunt?You keep pretty close tabs on these tags dont ya :chuckle:Close enough. :chuckle:
Post by: REHJWA on January 01, 2014, 05:44:53 PM
I hear you, Just enjoy the pictures and stories when we can get them.Unfortunately guys, these threads always go south over something, regardless any outcome, which is why less info/pics are shared every year.:yeah:Any details you can share? :dunno:I dont think the mule deer tag got filled :dunno:Yes it did.
With that being said, he got nice bucks and is happy.
Post by: huntnnw on January 02, 2014, 12:48:33 AM
Post by: mountainman on January 02, 2014, 06:15:34 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 06:22:52 AM
You do provide a ton of credible info on this forum and I think its cool you stay so informed on these tags...but I always wonder how you do that :chuckle: Lots of guide friends? Or all of the guys who buy these tags talk to you about places to hunt?You keep pretty close tabs on these tags dont ya :chuckle:Close enough. :chuckle:
It's a small world, or small community or whatever you want to call it. No guides were involved.
Post by: REHJWA on January 02, 2014, 11:45:40 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 02, 2014, 11:55:34 AM
Unfortunately guys, these threads always go south over something, regardless any outcome, which is why less info/pics are shared every year.:yeah:Any details you can share? :dunno:I dont think the mule deer tag got filled :dunno:Yes it did.
With that being said, he got nice bucks and is happy.
It's funny how someone always dredges up something they can gripe about isn't it? If it were mine to post, I would but I am of the attitude that #1 "Haters gon' Hate" and #2 the joke is on them
Post by: Maverick on January 02, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 02, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
Post by: snowpack on January 02, 2014, 12:45:52 PM
Anybody else see that they have already auctioned off the Eastside Elk Tag? :othey can't start to hunt it until Sep 1st, so I wonder why they wouldn't let the bidding run until at least Jun/Jul. Maybe it is so moss back can find them a bull now before they drop this year's antlers, then give it some of barry bond's stash over the course of the antler growing period. :chuckle:
Post by: antlerking on January 02, 2014, 02:52:58 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 04:21:02 PM
Anybody else see that they have already auctioned off the Eastside Elk Tag? :othey can't start to hunt it until Sep 1st, so I wonder why they wouldn't let the bidding run until at least Jun/Jul. Maybe it is so moss back can find them a bull now before they drop this year's antlers, then give it some of barry bond's stash over the course of the antler growing period. :chuckle:
It happens at an event. A 1 night dinner/banquet/expo/auction. Tis the season I guess. The goat tag for '14 will be sold in Bellevue in 3 weeks.
Post by: Maverick on January 02, 2014, 04:47:30 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 02, 2014, 04:56:50 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 05:05:56 PM
Eastside Elk Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation December 7, 2013 Las Vegas Convention Center
Las Vegas, Nevada
California Bighorn Sheep Wild Sheep Foundation January 24, 2014 Peppermill Hotel Casino
Reno, Nevada
Mountain Goat Seattle Sportsmen’s Conservation Foundation January 25, 2014 Lynwood Convention Center
Lynwood, WA
Mule Deer Mule Deer Foundation February 14, 2014 Salt Palace Convention Center
Salt Lake City, Utah
Westside Elk Safari Club International, Northwest Chapter February 22, 2014 Hilton Seattle Airport &
Conference Center
Seattle, WA
Moose Washington Wild Sheep Foundation March 8, 2014 Snoqualmie Casino
Snoqualmie, WA
Black-tailed Deer Safari Club International, Southwest Washington Chapter April 19, 2014 Vancouver Convention Center
Vancouver, WA
White-tailed Deer Safari Club International, Southwest Washington Chapter April 19, 2014 Vancouver Convention Center
Vancouver, WA
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/auctions.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/auctions.html)
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 05:11:39 PM
Am I missing something?
http://www.rmef.org/Events/HuntersRendezvousAuction.aspx (http://www.rmef.org/Events/HuntersRendezvousAuction.aspx)
Post by: huntnphool on January 02, 2014, 05:19:10 PM
This link says the elk permit sells 3/1/14.
Am I missing something?
http://www.rmef.org/Events/HuntersRendezvousAuction.aspx (http://www.rmef.org/Events/HuntersRendezvousAuction.aspx)
Here is a link and a screen shot for those that can't open it. http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/auctions.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/auctions.html)
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 05:43:22 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F01%2F03%2Fupy2u3em.jpg&hash=8ec2f8c29aadc3d724be4cf9054586ddcb93c79e)
Post by: trophyhunt on January 02, 2014, 05:57:58 PM
How much did the east elk go for, same guy buy?:yeah:
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 06:20:39 PM
Post by: JPhelps on January 02, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
Post by: furbearer365 on January 02, 2014, 07:29:12 PM
Post by: coachcw on January 02, 2014, 07:35:27 PM
Post by: actionshooter on January 02, 2014, 07:44:02 PM
I don't know about you guys but I kinda have a problem with our auction tags being sold out of state , I guess it just rubs me wrong :dunno:
Its all about getting the most money for the tag and auctioning it of in a setting with the most high rollers will do just that.
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 02, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
Do they post anywhere how much these tags have gone for in the past few years.http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/big_game_auctions_proceeds.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/big_game_auctions_proceeds.pdf)
Post by: coachcw on January 02, 2014, 07:49:32 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 08:51:46 PM
I understand the logic behind it . maybe if they would show direct projects being funded by this money so there could be a tangible reward for selling out ? I wonder how much money is spent by the state in moving and marketing these tags how much administrative money is spent on these ? anyone?The sale of these tags is handled by the org's that are selling them....not the state.
Post by: huntnphool on January 02, 2014, 09:56:20 PM
The only issue with that theory is, when was the last time a non resident purchased one of them?I don't know about you guys but I kinda have a problem with our auction tags being sold out of state , I guess it just rubs me wrong :dunno:
Its all about getting the most money for the tag and auctioning it of in a setting with the most high rollers will do just that.
Post by: Caseyd on January 02, 2014, 10:28:14 PM
Anybody else see that they have already auctioned off the Eastside Elk Tag? :othey can't start to hunt it until Sep 1st, so I wonder why they wouldn't let the bidding run until at least Jun/Jul. Maybe it is so moss back can find them a bull now before they drop this year's antlers, then give it some of barry bond's stash over the course of the antler growing period. :chuckle:
It happens at an event. A 1 night dinner/banquet/expo/auction. Tis the season I guess. The goat tag for '14 will be sold in Bellevue in 3 weeks.
Lynnwood now. Not sure why they changed venues, probably facility costs.
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 10:41:17 PM
Anybody else see that they have already auctioned off the Eastside Elk Tag? :othey can't start to hunt it until Sep 1st, so I wonder why they wouldn't let the bidding run until at least Jun/Jul. Maybe it is so moss back can find them a bull now before they drop this year's antlers, then give it some of barry bond's stash over the course of the antler growing period. :chuckle:
It happens at an event. A 1 night dinner/banquet/expo/auction. Tis the season I guess. The goat tag for '14 will be sold in Bellevue in 3 weeks.
Lynnwood now. Not sure why they changed venues, probably facility costs.
I guess I better start paying attention to the location of events I plan to attend.
Oops.
Post by: JLS on January 02, 2014, 10:43:38 PM
I don't know about you guys but I kinda have a problem with our auction tags being sold out of state , I guess it just rubs me wrong :dunno:
It's not like I'm going to buy it :(
Montana auctions their Governor's sheep tag at the FNAWS banquet I believe.
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
I don't know about you guys but I kinda have a problem with our auction tags being sold out of state , I guess it just rubs me wrong :dunno:
It's not like I'm going to buy it :(
Montana auctions their Governor's sheep tag at the FNAWS banquet I believe.
Heck, the WA WSF sells the moose auction tag. Where's the logic in that?
:chuckle:
Post by: shootem on January 02, 2014, 10:46:32 PM
Quote from: coachcw on Today at 07:49:32 PM
I understand the logic behind it . maybe if they would show direct projects being funded by this money so there could be a tangible reward for selling out ? I wonder how much money is spent by the state in moving and marketing these tags how much administrative money is spent on these ? anyone?
The sale of these tags is handled by the org's that are selling them....not the state.
So does anyone know how much of the $204,100 spent this year actually went to the benefit of the wildlife of the state of Washington?
Post by: Brute on January 02, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2014, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: coachcw on Today at 07:49:32 PM
I understand the logic behind it . maybe if they would show direct projects being funded by this money so there could be a tangible reward for selling out ? I wonder how much money is spent by the state in moving and marketing these tags how much administrative money is spent on these ? anyone?
The sale of these tags is handled by the org's that are selling them....not the state.
So does anyone know how much of the $204,100 spent this year actually went to the benefit of the wildlife of the state of Washington?
http://www.rmef.org/NewsandMedia/PressRoom/NewsReleases/RMEFWAGrants.aspx (http://www.rmef.org/NewsandMedia/PressRoom/NewsReleases/RMEFWAGrants.aspx)
Quote
April 22, 2013
RMEF Announces Grants to Fund Conservation Projects in Washington
MISSOULA, Mont.—Prescribed burns, forest thinning, and spraying for noxious weeds are treatments involved with the 20 conservation projects designed to improve elk country and forage in Washington. The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation announced grants totaling $191,726 that will enhance habitat in 11 different counties: Asotin, Columbia, Cowlitz, Ferry, Garfield, King, Kittitas, Lewis, Pend Oreille, Skamania and Yakima.
Post by: Todd_ID on January 03, 2014, 12:05:58 AM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/expenditures/index.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/expenditures/index.html)
There is no set percentage or dollar amount that WDFW is guaranteed from the net proceeds of the auction. It is a bid process. The Director chooses the bidding organization which he thinks has the best chance of making the most money for the state based on the number and pocket-depth of people expected to be in attendance at the auction AND the proposed split of the net proceeds from the sale. A rule-of-thumb is that organizations bid in the 50-80% range: meaning that 50-80% of the net revenue goes to the state, and the WAC's specify that money must be used for the management of only that species.
A local chapter of the Mule Deer Foundation, for instance, could be awarded the mule deer auction tag to sell by bidding a higher percentage to be given to the state, but the Director would need to feel that the sale price would be sufficiently high enough to offset the increased sale price, but lower split percentage, that the tag will bring at the Salt Lake Auction during the national Mule Deer Foundation event.
If a local RMEF chapter were to show the Director that they could get the 5 people who bid seriously on the tag to their event AND offer a higher percentage split than the national RMEF offers, then that chapter would likely be granted the right to advertise for, and sell at auction, the Eastside Elk auction tag.
Post by: bearpaw on January 03, 2014, 12:10:58 AM
Post by: coachcw on January 03, 2014, 07:20:52 AM
Post by: Todd_ID on January 03, 2014, 07:31:30 AM
lets just say the game department ran a online auction that showed all the high bids that way anyone could jump on and bid , I'd bet those high payers would still bid and the tags that went in the 10-12 k mark might bump up a bit . then all the money minus a small percent could go strait to fund projects ??? any thoughts on this ?It could work well: and is certainly possible for auctions. Giving the tag to a group allows the WDFW to just collect the money and not have to administer it. One thing to remember is that the part that goes to the group selling the tag is likely put to as good, or better, use than the part the state gets, so it all funds projects. That's certainly a debatable point, however. There is no guarantee the money raised for our tags will be spent in our state, but it it VERY likely that group would, at some point in the year, spend more than that amount in our state.
Post by: jackmaster on January 03, 2014, 07:33:29 AM
Post by: Maverick on January 03, 2014, 08:55:39 AM
Post by: Caseyd on January 03, 2014, 08:58:12 AM
if WDFW is always so hard up for cash, why dont they just keep those tags and do the auction for them all by themselves, that way the money is atleast guranteed to stay in the state, maybe even use it to fund a couple of courts that deal with wildlife infractions only :dunno: i dont see how washington tags end up in the hands of other than anyones hands BUT the WDFW. i think the money raised is a good thing, but the moneys could be put to work in alot better fashion, piannoman would probably be a good person to head that up if the WDFW couldnt manage it :chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
The cost to facilitate the auction could be greater then the amount paid by an organization.
Post by: nwhunter on January 03, 2014, 09:43:48 AM
Post by: ramslam on January 03, 2014, 09:51:37 AM
Personally, I support sending some of the tags out of state to be sold by the national organizations. In the end, I think Washington wildlife benefits more from it. The residence of the winning bidder is not relevant in my mind. The national Wild Sheep Foundation last June committed $275,000 to WSU's wild sheep research program. When you factor in what WSF makes from selling our state Cali sheep permit, this is a win-win for Washington's wild sheep. The RMEF example posted earlier is another great example. Also, WSF has worked on the forefront back in Washington D.C. to address some of the recent public land grazing of domestic sheep & goats. National organizations have the network and connections in place to engage at that level that most of us local groups simply do not.
Post by: coachcw on January 03, 2014, 09:54:11 AM
Post by: REHJWA on January 03, 2014, 11:21:43 AM
Post by: SkookumHntr on January 04, 2014, 09:02:26 PM
-So how is it you seem to be in the loop on all these tags? Are you finding out who has them and asking to tag along? Or do these guys call you becouse your "the guy" to call? :chuckle:You do provide a ton of credible info on this forum and I think its cool you stay so informed on these tags...but I always wonder how you do that :chuckle: Lots of guide friends? Or all of the guys who buy these tags talk to you about places to hunt?You keep pretty close tabs on these tags dont ya :chuckle:Close enough. :chuckle:
Post by: Pinetar on January 04, 2014, 09:17:30 PM
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Post by: rosscrazyelk on January 06, 2014, 05:57:33 PM