Post by: Old Dog on January 02, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
I posted in an earlier thread about losing my dog last June, and getting a new pup this month. That's still going to happen, but I also decided to take Misty off the shelf. She is currently visiting 4XGMPR Wandermers Tazverniti MH, QAA (call name Taz) at Tiger Mt. Pointing Labradors. When I'm confident there is going to be a litter I will post an add with all the health and pedigree info.
So... I get the new pup on January 15, and if nature takes it's course I will also have a litter of puppies in early March. :whoo:
Post by: Birdguy on January 02, 2014, 09:06:24 PM
Post by: Old Dog on January 02, 2014, 09:41:56 PM
We can get together on the birds anytime. The pens are ready even if the pups aren't. :tup:
Post by: WRL on January 03, 2014, 07:18:52 AM
WRL
Post by: Old Dog on January 03, 2014, 11:23:09 AM
Post by: Ruger on January 04, 2014, 07:53:24 AM
Post by: Don Fischer on January 04, 2014, 05:32:25 PM
As far as help is concerned I'm looking into joining a local chapter of the APLA that is just starting up, and maybe getting involved in their programs. :dunno: I've already lined up a spot to train at Rocking M, but Bryant and Cindy aren't pointing lab people, and I'm just an amateur at best. :chuckle:
We can get together on the birds anytime. The pens are ready even if the pups aren't. :tup:
I think I saw that R.J. Marquart does pointing labs. Search Quicksilver kennels. In eastern Wash.
Post by: wildweeds on January 05, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
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As far as help is concerned I'm looking into joining a local chapter of the APLA that is just starting up, and maybe getting involved in their programs. :dunno: I've already lined up a spot to train at Rocking M, but Bryant and Cindy aren't pointing lab people, and I'm just an amateur at best. :chuckle:
We can get together on the birds anytime. The pens are ready even if the pups aren't. :tup:
I think I saw that R.J. Marquart does pointing labs. Search Quicksilver kennels. In eastern Wash.
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Post by: Old Dog on January 05, 2014, 10:09:57 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on January 06, 2014, 08:35:27 AM
Post by: WRL on January 06, 2014, 08:54:29 AM
But with a pointing lab, you want someone who can balance the pointing stuff with the retrieving stuff.
WRL
Post by: boneaddict on January 06, 2014, 08:58:26 AM
Post by: Old Dog on January 08, 2014, 08:10:31 AM
Post by: et1702 on January 08, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
Congrats to you and Misty!
On a side note, I have a buddy who is currently looking at getting a male pup this spring. Any idea what you might be asking for one...$$$?
Thanks,
ET
Post by: Old Dog on January 08, 2014, 08:40:32 AM
Post by: Birdguy on January 08, 2014, 09:09:33 PM
Congrats on the breeding of Misty, bet you are excited about all the new stuff going on in your home :tup:
Post by: Old Dog on January 08, 2014, 09:38:28 PM
As far as a trainer, no luck finding one on this side yet. I'm considering sending her to John at Tiger Mt, or Ryan at Long Hollow, or possibly Sean at Tri- Labs, buy he is all the way over to Tonasket. :dunno: I went to the APLA web site, and checked out the requirements for a Grand Master Pointing Retriever, and I'm going to need some pro help. :chuckle:
Post by: gasman on January 09, 2014, 06:27:02 PM
And be sure to obedience train and I know of a place you can get a great deal on an E-collar :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Old Dog on January 09, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
Post by: Old Dog on January 12, 2014, 03:22:47 PM
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Post by: Old Dog on March 11, 2014, 09:05:57 AM
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Post by: Old Dog on March 12, 2014, 08:42:06 AM
Misty waited a full day and then had more pups. :bash: :chuckle:
We now have a black female, and another yellow male. I'll get a fresh pic up this evening.
Post by: wildweeds on March 12, 2014, 02:43:43 PM
Another update.
Misty waited a full day and then had more pups. :bash: :chuckle:
We now have a black female, and another yellow male. I'll get a fresh pic up this evening.
Post by: Old Dog on March 12, 2014, 06:39:56 PM
Post by: WRL on March 12, 2014, 08:19:07 PM
For future reference,if the big black ball of mucous looking thing don't come squirting out after the last pup ,she ain't done.A shot of oxytocin would have cleaned her out after the 4 and youd have your 6 then.Now since that happend to you, if it was me,I'd be getting that dog to the vet for a trained hands on check and an Xray to make absolute certain there wasn't a stillborn pup still in her.If there is another one in there that is stillborn,it will rot,cause a massive infection and kill her.Another update.
Misty waited a full day and then had more pups. :bash: :chuckle:
We now have a black female, and another yellow male. I'll get a fresh pic up this evening.
Very few folks are using oxytocin any more. It can cause more issues than it solves in a LOT of cases.
If she isn't in any distress, leave well enough alone.
An xray to make sure there aren't any retained puppies is always good.
WRRL
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 13, 2014, 08:40:16 AM
For future reference,if the big black ball of mucous looking thing don't come squirting out after the last pup ,she ain't done.A shot of oxytocin would have cleaned her out after the 4 and youd have your 6 then.Now since that happend to you, if it was me,I'd be getting that dog to the vet for a trained hands on check and an Xray to make absolute certain there wasn't a stillborn pup still in her.If there is another one in there that is stillborn,it will rot,cause a massive infection and kill her.Another update.
Misty waited a full day and then had more pups. :bash: :chuckle:
We now have a black female, and another yellow male. I'll get a fresh pic up this evening.
Very few folks are using oxytocin any more. It can cause more issues than it solves in a LOT of cases.
If she isn't in any distress, leave well enough alone.
An xray to make sure there aren't any retained puppies is always good.
WRRL
Just had a guy yesterday tell me his vet said they'll just give the oxytocin shot on the bitch's due date because, "it will make sure all the puppies and other stuff come out at once". I said WTF? I'd find a new vet.
Post by: WRL on March 13, 2014, 10:09:14 AM
For future reference,if the big black ball of mucous looking thing don't come squirting out after the last pup ,she ain't done.A shot of oxytocin would have cleaned her out after the 4 and youd have your 6 then.Now since that happend to you, if it was me,I'd be getting that dog to the vet for a trained hands on check and an Xray to make absolute certain there wasn't a stillborn pup still in her.If there is another one in there that is stillborn,it will rot,cause a massive infection and kill her.Another update.
Misty waited a full day and then had more pups. :bash: :chuckle:
We now have a black female, and another yellow male. I'll get a fresh pic up this evening.
Very few folks are using oxytocin any more. It can cause more issues than it solves in a LOT of cases.
If she isn't in any distress, leave well enough alone.
An xray to make sure there aren't any retained puppies is always good.
WRRL
Just had a guy yesterday tell me his vet said they'll just give the oxytocin shot on the bitch's due date because, "it will make sure all the puppies and other stuff come out at once". I said WTF? I'd find a new vet.
Oh brother......
Recipe for disaster there.....I see dead puppies and a torn uterus in that guy's future.
WRL
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 13, 2014, 10:48:21 AM
You can't fix stupid...
Post by: wildweeds on March 13, 2014, 10:57:17 AM
Yeah, He didn't want to listen and also paid for AI and a very expensive stud fee for the straw. She's due in two weeks and he said he can't really tell if she's pregnant. I asked if he did an ultra sound or x-ray yet for a count. He said, "vet did that last time and didn't get the count right. The vet missed a pup" I said,"yeah, that's normal it isn't an guaranteed count". He says, "no reason to do it then"..
You can't fix stupid...
Post by: WRL on March 13, 2014, 01:31:12 PM
The section rate is higher on them because they can lack hormones to be able to whelp properly.
I don't US any more. Doesn't matter if there are pups at 4 weeks. Because that is no guarantee there will be pups at 9 weeks.
Oxytocin is hardly ever used any more by most breeders. The recommended drug of choice is soluble calcium.
WRL
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 13, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
I only xray any more if I am not sure they are pregnant or its obvious they only have a couple of pups.
The section rate is higher on them because they can lack hormones to be able to whelp properly.
I don't US any more. Doesn't matter if there are pups at 4 weeks. Because that is no guarantee there will be pups at 9 weeks.
Oxytocin is hardly ever used any more by most breeders. The recommended drug of choice is soluble calcium.
WRL
Oral and injection. I had my vet give me the oral tubes and also the injection at the recommendation of a world famous Chessie breeder. Calcium deficiencies can be to blame for a couple problems which can arise. Then there is the manual manipulation to cause contractions. I had to be taught that one by my whelping supervisor. Well, I could feel one puppy left and it worked.
Post by: Old Dog on April 29, 2014, 10:41:05 PM
Post by: chiefeng on May 02, 2014, 12:16:28 PM