Post by: dunejunkie on November 11, 2008, 05:46:49 PM
He spent 8 days up looking with no clear shots of a nice bull. I was lucky enough to go on Sunday. He had a clear cut picked out already. We parked the rig and started walking while scoping the spur before we came into the clear cut. luckly one time while scoping the road ahead I saw the white tips move on the downside of the hill. We knew it was a bull. My cousin watched via his scope and me with the binocs...damn I was sure hoping this wasn't going to head down the hill into the thick brush again. We kept waiting, then 5 inchs of what was only white tips...slowly turned into a massive rack, then a head, and then the body. He stopped about 75yrd from us.
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 11, 2008, 05:53:18 PM
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Post by: bucklucky on November 11, 2008, 06:06:40 PM
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Post by: coonhound on November 11, 2008, 06:07:26 PM
Congrats,
Coon
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 11, 2008, 06:10:23 PM
Post by: fc2038 on November 11, 2008, 06:50:16 PM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on November 11, 2008, 07:09:34 PM
Post by: DBake on November 11, 2008, 07:09:52 PM
I can't find the special permit in the regs, some one help me out with a page number?
Post by: Bookworm on November 11, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on November 11, 2008, 07:13:11 PM
Post by: Craig on November 11, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
Post by: DBake on November 11, 2008, 07:34:50 PM
You have to buy the trespass key. Then you get to apply for the elk tag thru Hancock. The state has nothing to do with it.
So there were 6 permits last year, how many applied?
Post by: Bookworm on November 11, 2008, 07:43:37 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on November 11, 2008, 07:58:35 PM
AWESOME bull though.
Post by: bowsandhose on November 11, 2008, 08:05:28 PM
Post by: bullcanyon on November 11, 2008, 08:08:10 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 11, 2008, 08:13:58 PM
i think the odds of drawing next year just went down :)
Post by: rosscrazyelk on November 11, 2008, 08:20:51 PM
Post by: dunejunkie on November 11, 2008, 08:22:00 PM
I live less then a mile from the gate...so for me it's good. Year round access.
Scored a 359.
Post by: jae on November 11, 2008, 08:24:59 PM
Post by: rackattack on November 11, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on November 11, 2008, 09:03:25 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on November 11, 2008, 09:16:37 PM
awesome bull but next time, pack him before daylight. you took pics in the dark then the next day more. ALL I HAVE HAVE TO SAY IS RESPECT WHAT YOU HUNT. MEAT FIRST BONE SECOND. GREATE JOB ON THE KILL. j
Chill man, I'm sure it was cold enough and I seriously doubt anything spoiled...
Congrats on a great bull!!!! Thats awesome!
Michael
Post by: mtn.goat on November 11, 2008, 09:17:48 PM
What's with the daylight/ pack, respect deal, BENCHLEG? Am I missing something?
Post by: G.R.K on November 11, 2008, 10:01:52 PM
Post by: sdwwaverider on November 12, 2008, 12:31:23 AM
Post by: HawkenBob on November 12, 2008, 06:04:10 AM
Post by: dunejunkie on November 12, 2008, 07:34:24 AM
awesome bull but next time, pack him before daylight. you took pics in the dark then the next day more. ALL I HAVE HAVE TO SAY IS RESPECT WHAT YOU HUNT. MEAT FIRST BONE SECOND. GREATE JOB ON THE KILL. j
Thanks for you’re concern, but you have no idea what you’re talking about.
This is the legal hunting hours from the regs.
Mon Nov 3rdth – Sunday Nov 9th. 6:30am to 5:15pm…..
The picture was taken about 6:55am…
We were in a wooded area on the West side of the hill…with the camera flash it looked pretty dark.
62rd.
Post by: DeKuma on November 12, 2008, 07:43:52 AM
Benchleg,
Let us remember to be civil to each other and not jump to conclusions. If you look, you can see that it all takes place on the same day by the clothes he is wearing and the flash makes it appear night, when it is actually early morning.
There is not call for derogatory comments, it is a great bull and he should be very proud.
Post by: tabynn on November 12, 2008, 08:05:55 AM
You can see the sky in the background behind the guy, through the trees. Looks legal to me!!
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 12, 2008, 08:26:33 AM
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Post by: GWA Hunter on November 12, 2008, 10:28:09 AM
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Post by: blindpig on November 12, 2008, 12:05:54 PM
Post by: rasbo on November 12, 2008, 12:12:04 PM
My cousin was drawn for one of the 6 Kapowsin Hancock bull hunts this year.is that adam? if it is I used to help coach him in baseball, Im j howies dad
He spent 8 days up looking with no clear shots of a nice bull. I was lucky enough to go on Sunday. He had a clear cut picked out already. We parked the rig and started walking while scoping the spur before we came into the clear cut. luckly one time while scoping the road ahead I saw the white tips move on the downside of the hill. We knew it was a bull. My cousin watched via his scope and me with the binocs...damn I was sure hoping this wasn't going to head down the hill into the thick brush again. We kept waiting, then 5 inchs of what was only white tips...slowly turned into a massive rack, then a head, and then the body. He stopped about 75yrd from us.
Post by: groundhog on November 12, 2008, 01:33:22 PM
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Post by: bow4elk on November 12, 2008, 02:09:43 PM
Post by: GWA Hunter on November 12, 2008, 02:43:38 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on November 12, 2008, 06:06:29 PM
Post by: coonhound on November 12, 2008, 06:47:29 PM
Are all the elk in Hancock/Kapowsin and White River area Roosevelt Elk? I thought most were Rocky Mountain until you were over toward the coast more. Anyone know?
I heard rumors that years ago they planted some Rosy's up there but I'm confident the bulk of the elk are Rocky Mountain.
Coon
Post by: wapitislayer on November 12, 2008, 07:03:45 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on November 12, 2008, 07:21:00 PM
Post by: nw_bowhunter on November 12, 2008, 07:32:12 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 12, 2008, 08:12:17 PM
Are all the elk in Hancock/Kapowsin and White River area Roosevelt Elk? I thought most were Rocky Mountain until you were over toward the coast more. Anyone know?
The state transplanted some Rocky Mountain Elk in the Ashford area up near Mt Rainier National Park in 1930. There were a couple of transplants but all in all it was less than 50 animals i believe. The elk came from Montana.They also transplanted a few up around Enumclaw. It is my opinion and the opinion of many of the taxidermists that i have used is the predominant gene pool is Roosevelt. The WDFW website has alot of published articles that tell the history of the elk in the state. Some of it is some pretty good reading and factual data. Especially i would recommend reading the 2002 North Rainier Elk Status and Trend report written by Rocky Spencer. Excellent info in there. The reason i know all this is that the last 2 years i spent fighting Pierce County over the fact that to get my building permit i had to set aside half of my property for "White River Winter Elk" Habitat of Local Importance. The real reason i fought is that it prevented me from enhancing and or improving the elk habitat on that part of my property. The funny thing is that the county restrictions in the habitat area are contrary to the states science which makes the county in violation of the growth management act. Well i could ramble on for hours on this issue, belive me i got in pretty deep.
Any way the sheer size of the bodies on the elk in this area lend weight to the fact that they are rosies. All the Bulls i have taken in the Mashell unit have been right around 1000 lbs live weight. I know of the owner of a local archery shop who shot a bull in the pack forest that Hung butcher weight at 505 lbs. It was a 6x6 that scored right around 270". That would make it just about as big as most of the washington moose that i have seen on here this year. Anyway that what i know. Hope it helped.
Oh and one other thing is that the washington record book has the entire west side from the pacific crest as Roosevelt. Boone and Crocket has Roosevelts west of I5 i belive because of the intermingling of the gene pool around Mt Rainier. :twocents:
Post by: GWA Hunter on November 12, 2008, 10:41:44 PM
Post by: TheHunt on November 13, 2008, 11:36:36 AM
Are all the elk in Hancock/Kapowsin and White River area Roosevelt Elk? I thought most were Rocky Mountain until you were over toward the coast more. Anyone know?
You are correct... Those elk are Rocky Mountain
Post by: skybusterbo on November 13, 2008, 04:00:13 PM
Post by: kopfjaeger on November 13, 2008, 05:57:48 PM
Congrats!
Post by: rasbo on November 13, 2008, 06:01:23 PM
Nice Bull, I've seen many like it and bigger in there. If you know where Camp 1 is, I was born and raised there, lived there more than 25 years off and on and have seen many a nice bull in there. About ten years ago, we had an 8X8 running a bunch of cows right up behind the houses that I swear you could fit a Volkswagon Bug in its rack.you must know scotty
Congrats!
Post by: kopfjaeger on November 13, 2008, 06:22:37 PM
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Post by: blmathis12 on November 13, 2008, 08:28:19 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 13, 2008, 10:20:08 PM
They are actually Hybrids. The remaining wet-side herds are Rocky Mountain/Roosevelt elk hybrids and include the Mount St. Helens, north Rainier, south Rainier, Willapa Hills and Nooksack herds. The genetic research has been done by several WA. State Game Biologists.
AH how refreshing. Someone else that actually knows the facts. It is amazing to me how many so called elk experts don't actually know what they are talking about. You obviously do. Kudos to you. Although i am not sure about the Willipa and Nooksack.If Boone and Crockett will consider any elk westof I5 as a true Roosevelt than Willipa must be pure Roosevelt. Even though Boone and Crockett does not recognize Nooksack as Roosevelt i honestly believe that they were transplanted up there from Roosevelt stock. Anybody could please correct me if i am wrong. I hate propogating false information.
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