Post by: woodman on January 10, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
We talked about different things and the Spring bear hunt came up in conversation. He informed me that if you are Spring bear hunting and in a walk in area only, you can not pick up any sheds while in there. This was news to me because I have done that and showed a game warden what I had found. The game warden's only concern was that it was shed naturally and not cut off. I really would hate to lose my permit over this and thought that I would share to try to help others stay out of trouble with their permit status.
Has anyone else heard of this? Maybe it is common knowledge that I should have known already. I did not see it in the rules, but maybe I just missed it.
I got my formal response in writing from the front office and they say that you can pick up sheds in there as long as you have a valid motorized permit.
Post by: Mike450r on January 10, 2014, 12:41:41 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on January 10, 2014, 12:44:24 PM
Post by: grundy53 on January 10, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
never heard or read that anywhere.:yeah:
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Post by: NRA4LIFE on January 10, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
Post by: lewy on January 10, 2014, 02:03:03 PM
Post by: McCRIZZLEY on January 10, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
Post by: woodman on January 10, 2014, 02:16:50 PM
or Woodman wants all the sheds! :o
That's a given!
Post by: Hunterman on January 10, 2014, 02:19:11 PM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: elkh8me on January 10, 2014, 04:10:46 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 10, 2014, 04:16:50 PM
Post by: woodman on January 10, 2014, 04:35:54 PM
he told me the same thing last year and in his mind he seemed serious. not one shed that i found during spring bear permit last year came from a walk in area :chuckle:
I just don't understand how someone is supposed to know if it is not in the rules that they give you. I am quite sure that none of mine came from within a walk in area also.
Post by: gotshot on January 10, 2014, 04:37:22 PM
Post by: woodman on January 10, 2014, 04:43:59 PM
were you on the bridge side today?
Yes, were you?
Post by: gotshot on January 10, 2014, 07:11:02 PM
Post by: D.Prociw on January 11, 2014, 10:28:04 PM
Post by: woodman on January 11, 2014, 10:43:49 PM
I think what he meant( not that what he says makes much sense or is according to the letter of the law) is that if your spring bear hunting,the gates are open for vehicle access for spring bear hunters only and if your in there with your vehicle it would be some what of a unfair advantage if you were able to take the sheds out in the back of your truck :dunno:
I kind of thought of it as a perk of being lucky enough to get drawn for that permit. The sheds are legal per the law and just going to waste away way back in there.
Post by: trophyhunt on January 11, 2014, 10:47:39 PM
they won't waste away, I will pic them up!!! So just leave them alone please !😉I think what he meant( not that what he says makes much sense or is according to the letter of the law) is that if your spring bear hunting,the gates are open for vehicle access for spring bear hunters only and if your in there with your vehicle it would be some what of a unfair advantage if you were able to take the sheds out in the back of your truck :dunno:
I kind of thought of it as a perk of being lucky enough to get drawn for that permit. The sheds are legal per the law and just going to waste away way back in there.
Post by: woodman on January 11, 2014, 11:00:33 PM
they won't waste away, I will pic them up!!! So just leave them alone please !I think what he meant( not that what he says makes much sense or is according to the letter of the law) is that if your spring bear hunting,the gates are open for vehicle access for spring bear hunters only and if your in there with your vehicle it would be some what of a unfair advantage if you were able to take the sheds out in the back of your truck :dunno:
I kind of thought of it as a perk of being lucky enough to get drawn for that permit. The sheds are legal per the law and just going to waste away way back in there.
OK I will never touch another one, I should probably just send you a map every time that I find one. :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on January 11, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
just hide them in a spot so no one else will find them, then PM me and I'll meet you at the kapowsin tavern to get the map!!! Drinks on me!!!they won't waste away, I will pic them up!!! So just leave them alone please !I think what he meant( not that what he says makes much sense or is according to the letter of the law) is that if your spring bear hunting,the gates are open for vehicle access for spring bear hunters only and if your in there with your vehicle it would be some what of a unfair advantage if you were able to take the sheds out in the back of your truck :dunno:
I kind of thought of it as a perk of being lucky enough to get drawn for that permit. The sheds are legal per the law and just going to waste away way back in there.
OK I will never touch another one, I should probably just send you a map every time that I find one. :chuckle:
Post by: woodman on January 11, 2014, 11:09:52 PM
just hide them in a spot so no one else will find them, then PM me and I'll meet you at the kapowsin tavern to get the map!!! Drinks on me!!!they won't waste away, I will pic them up!!! So just leave them alone please !I think what he meant( not that what he says makes much sense or is according to the letter of the law) is that if your spring bear hunting,the gates are open for vehicle access for spring bear hunters only and if your in there with your vehicle it would be some what of a unfair advantage if you were able to take the sheds out in the back of your truck :dunno:
I kind of thought of it as a perk of being lucky enough to get drawn for that permit. The sheds are legal per the law and just going to waste away way back in there.
OK I will never touch another one, I should probably just send you a map every time that I find one. :chuckle:
Sounds like a plan
Post by: deadyote on January 11, 2014, 11:44:58 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 12, 2014, 08:55:51 AM
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Post by: Mike450r on January 12, 2014, 09:05:58 AM
I think what he meant( not that what he says makes much sense or is according to the letter of the law) is that if your spring bear hunting,the gates are open for vehicle access for spring bear hunters only and if your in there with your vehicle it would be some what of a unfair advantage if you were able to take the sheds out in the back of your truck :dunno:
Unless something changed any permit holder can go in during spring bear, they only close for elk. I think he is full of it myself.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 12, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
Yeah him :pee:, he's blowing so much smoke up ur a$$ ur gunna $hit beef jerky...:chuckle: :chuckle: :tup: it never ends ...do what you want and worry about it once your caught :twocents: :yike: You know the saying ! Its always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission :twocents:
Post by: Hawgdawg on January 12, 2014, 09:19:01 AM
Yeah him :pee:, he's blowing so much smoke up ur a$$ ur gunna $hit beef jerky...
And that would be pot smoke!
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 12, 2014, 09:25:09 AM
Post by: Ccortez on January 12, 2014, 09:37:03 AM
Post by: huntnphool on January 12, 2014, 09:40:20 AM
It's legal to pick up naturally shed antlers, he connot change that law.+1
Post by: D.Prociw on January 12, 2014, 10:47:13 AM
. Your right a permit holder can go in the tree farm, but a permit holder cannot go in the walk in roads with his vehicle if they dont have a spring bear tag.But things change a lot in there especially in Clydes mind. I'm with the rest of you. A shed is coming out with me if I find one. Is he going to tell me that if I'm spring bear hunting behind a walk in road and I find a nice patch of morels that I have to leave them? Clyde is Clyde and that's all I'm going to say about that.I think what he meant( not that what he says makes much sense or is according to the letter of the law) is that if your spring bear hunting,the gates are open for vehicle access for spring bear hunters only and if your in there with your vehicle it would be some what of a unfair advantage if you were able to take the sheds out in the back of your truck :dunno:
Unless something changed any permit holder can go in during spring bear, they only close for elk. I think he is full of it myself.
Post by: Pygmy on January 12, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
Post by: logger on January 12, 2014, 11:45:38 AM
Post by: D.Prociw on January 12, 2014, 11:49:39 AM
Post by: cem3434 on January 12, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
Thanks for the heads-up Woodman. Clyde told me last year that if he found a shed in my rig he would confiscate it, rip the Hancock sticker from my rig and cancel my access. I ran into the Snoqualmie guard at Kapowsin main gate a few weeks later and asked him about sheds and he didn't care. Anyone ask the head office?
It says nothing in the rules that you agree to when buying the permit. If he tried to take my permit over shed hunting, Hancock's front office would be getting a call from me. Average deer and bear hunting along with a d-bag guard making up rules on the fly just adds to the reasons why I will not be buying a permit again this year. :twocents:
Post by: bobcat on January 12, 2014, 11:55:37 AM
Is it really much of an issue though? I mean, I've never been in the Kapowsin tree farm, but what are the odds of actually finding a shed? If it's like anywhere else in western Washington, finding a shed is about a once every ten years kind of event.
Post by: D.Prociw on January 12, 2014, 12:05:43 PM
Post by: woodman on January 12, 2014, 04:36:10 PM
Thanks for the heads-up Woodman. Clyde told me last year that if he found a shed in my rig he would confiscate it, rip the Hancock sticker from my rig and cancel my access. I ran into the Snoqualmie guard at Kapowsin main gate a few weeks later and asked him about sheds and he didn't care. Anyone ask the head office?
I have sent in a formal detailed request for a formal answer to Hancock's stand on this.
Post by: bobcat on January 12, 2014, 04:39:01 PM
Thanks for the heads-up Woodman. Clyde told me last year that if he found a shed in my rig he would confiscate it, rip the Hancock sticker from my rig and cancel my access. I ran into the Snoqualmie guard at Kapowsin main gate a few weeks later and asked him about sheds and he didn't care. Anyone ask the head office?
I have sent in a formal detailed request for a formal answer to Hancock's stand on this.
:yike: Next thing you know they'll be selling permits for shed hunting.
Post by: Hawgdawg on January 12, 2014, 04:43:21 PM
Thanks for the heads-up Woodman. Clyde told me last year that if he found a shed in my rig he would confiscate it, rip the Hancock sticker from my rig and cancel my access. I ran into the Snoqualmie guard at Kapowsin main gate a few weeks later and asked him about sheds and he didn't care. Anyone ask the head office?
And he will take it home and make a pipe out of it.............
I have sent in a formal detailed request for a formal answer to Hancock's stand on this.
Post by: Thehowler on January 13, 2014, 11:51:44 PM
Post by: bigtex on January 14, 2014, 12:24:21 AM
Nowhere does Hancock say you can remove sheds.
I think Clyde is interpreting it as anything other then my first sentence is a violation of Hancock rules. Hancock is the landowner if they want to let people take sheds they can, if they don't want them to they can.
It'll be interesting to hear what the Hancock office says. But if they agree with Clyde, they are completely able to do so.
Post by: woodman on January 14, 2014, 06:57:09 AM
I am going out on a whim here. Hancock says you can hunt, fish, cut firewood in designated areas, and pick shrooms for personal use.
Nowhere does Hancock say you can remove sheds.
I think Clyde is interpreting it as anything other then my first sentence is a violation of Hancock rules. Hancock is the landowner if they want to let people take sheds they can, if they don't want them to they can.
It'll be interesting to hear what the Hancock office says. But if they agree with Clyde, they are completely able to do so.
I got my formal response in writing from the front office and they say that you can pick up sheds in there as long as you have a valid motorized permit.
Post by: jackmaster on January 14, 2014, 07:01:22 AM
:yeah: :yeah: thats right :chuckle: :chuckle: especially when you buy somethn that is pretty expensive :chuckle:Yeah him :pee:, he's blowing so much smoke up ur a$$ ur gunna $hit beef jerky...:chuckle: :chuckle: :tup: it never ends ...do what you want and worry about it once your caught :twocents: :yike: You know the saying ! Its always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission :twocents:
Post by: TheHunt on January 14, 2014, 07:06:47 AM
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Post by: funkster on February 24, 2014, 10:05:59 AM
With that said, I believe what Clyde said and how the OP interpreted it is just a communication break down. For those that don't know, "wildlife escapement" areas that are usually closed(gated) are open to spring bear tag hunters only. I believe Clyde was trying to keep the shed hunting for motorized spring bear tag holders and yearly access pass holders(walk in only)fair.
Post by: woodman on February 27, 2014, 03:59:05 PM
It really doesn't matter what state law says about shed hunting being legal, it's hancocks land and if they say NO shed hunting on their land, then it's no shed hunting.
With that said, I believe what Clyde said and how the OP interpreted it is just a communication break down. For those that don't know, "wildlife escapement" areas that are usually closed(gated) are open to spring bear tag hunters only. I believe Clyde was trying to keep the shed hunting for motorized spring bear tag holders and yearly access pass holders(walk in only)fair.
I appreciate you trying to say what others meant but I was there and you weren't. There was no communication break down. I wrote to the office exactly as you say that you think Clyde meant. I even mentioned it as being a perk of having that Spring Bear permit. The response was a long as you have a valid motorized permit, you are allowed to collect them. I had the conversation with Clyde, nothing lost in information transfer between people and also I have the written communications.
Post by: fillthefreezer on February 27, 2014, 04:05:22 PM
If it's like anywhere else in western Washington, finding a shed is about a once every ten years kind of event.unless youre woodman :chuckle:
he about needed a fullsize truck to haul all of last years sheds 8)
Post by: MLhunter1 on March 02, 2014, 06:11:32 PM
Post by: woodman on March 02, 2014, 07:28:44 PM
Talked to clyde this afternoon. He said he WILL take any sheds he finds from the spring bear hunters and will remove their pass and key. His main concern was the guys finding them in the roads behind the walk in areas from their vehicle since some of the wildlife escapement gates will be open to the spring bear guys. Only applies to spring bear guys behind the escapement gates.
Maybe he trumps the front office?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on March 02, 2014, 07:33:25 PM
Yeah him :pee:, he's blowing so much smoke up ur a$$ ur gunna $hit beef jerky...:chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
Post by: Thehowler on March 02, 2014, 08:56:25 PM
Post by: grundy53 on March 02, 2014, 08:56:59 PM
:yeah:Talked to clyde this afternoon. He said he WILL take any sheds he finds from the spring bear hunters and will remove their pass and key. His main concern was the guys finding them in the roads behind the walk in areas from their vehicle since some of the wildlife escapement gates will be open to the spring bear guys. Only applies to spring bear guys behind the escapement gates.
Maybe he trumps the front office?
He sure talks big.
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Post by: MLhunter1 on March 03, 2014, 10:21:52 AM
Post by: D.Prociw on March 03, 2014, 02:47:06 PM
In the end the hancock office makes the calls of course. But in the meantime sounds like clyde will remove a pass and cause a guy to work with the office to get it back. If they would allow us full pass holders drive behind the gates with the spring bear guys I would not have a problem with the bear guys grabbin sheds. But there are sheds all over the farm, plenty for everyone who is willing to work for em. Clyde likes to strutt his feathers.
I would like to see Clyde try to take someones pass based on His own Will and desires. Seems to me that his job would be on the line if He pulled a stunt like that.
We as permit holders spend good money to not be harassed and looked at as if where always hiding something. My advise to anyone who has sheds in there truck and Clyde talking to you would be, Go talk to the office and management and No I'm not giving you my Pass and Key.
Post by: MLhunter1 on March 03, 2014, 05:15:42 PM
Post by: MLhunter1 on March 03, 2014, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 03, 2014, 06:04:00 PM
Post by: funkster on March 05, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Can this old fart search your vehicles, no. He does not own the animals or horns/antlers. If he says differently, tell him to pound sand and leave.
He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee.
I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all.
Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 05, 2014, 12:37:03 PM
Can this old fart search your vehicles, no. He does not own the animals or horns/antlers. If he says differently, tell him to pound sand and leave.
He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee.
I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all.
Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!
Ol' Clyde probably is doing what HE fells is right. I hunted Champion for years when Vern Estabrook was the guard at the gate. Now talk about an old, hard nosed geezer........... :tup: I lived 2 miles north of Kapowsin and would buy the yearly pass. It was a good place to go and hunt and go sight seeing for sure. I even hauled rock for Harry Hart when his pit was tiny.....
Post by: Thehowler on March 05, 2014, 09:13:47 PM
Permits are not selling out as quick as they use too in there.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 05, 2014, 09:25:11 PM
Yes, Clyde always carries a fresh razor blade to scape The window sticker off the windshield of anyone who does not quite agree with his thinking.
Permits are not selling out as quick as they use too in there.
Clyde would have a huge problem if he did that to my truck.
Post by: woodman on March 06, 2014, 06:02:39 AM
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He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee.
I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all.
Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!
A couple of thoughts here funkster.
First, I have talked to by a member that told me that Clyde said he would pull his permit if he found a shed in his vehicle even if it was not in an escapement area.
Second thought is about the fairness that you talk about. It is true that Spring bear hunters can drive in the escapement areas whereas others that do not draw the permit can not. Is that fair? I would like to think that if a person is lucky enough to draw that permit it would be nice if they follow state laws that they could pick up a shed antler as a perk of the special drawing. It hurts no one. I do know that workers on the farm drive in those area a lot and have been told by the office that they pick up antlers. So when you say the escapement areas are closed to everyone, that really is not a true statement.
It seems to me that some workers want their own little haven for antlers and tell a different story than the front office.
With that said, I do not value antlers more than my permit. We do pay a heck of a lot to get that permit and as long as we follow the laws, what good reason for Hancock is there just to irritate the people that support the permit program and respect the property.
Post by: Thehowler on March 06, 2014, 05:53:07 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 06, 2014, 06:19:21 PM
Even if you were 6'7" tall and 350 pounds, you may have a problem Campmeat. I've heard story's. :chuckle:
Size doesn't mean squat to me. Been around the block more than the average guy.............
Post by: funkster on March 07, 2014, 11:07:39 AM
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He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee.
I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all.
Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!
A couple of thoughts here funkster.
First, I have talked to by a member that told me that Clyde said he would pull his permit if he found a shed in his vehicle even if it was not in an escapement area.
Second thought is about the fairness that you talk about. It is true that Spring bear hunters can drive in the escapement areas whereas others that do not draw the permit can not. Is that fair? I would like to think that if a person is lucky enough to draw that permit it would be nice if they follow state laws that they could pick up a shed antler as a perk of the special drawing. It hurts no one. I do know that workers on the farm drive in those area a lot and have been told by the office that they pick up antlers. So when you say the escapement areas are closed to everyone, that really is not a true statement.
It seems to me that some workers want their own little haven for antlers and tell a different story than the front office.
With that said, I do not value antlers more than my permit. We do pay a heck of a lot to get that permit and as long as we follow the laws, what good reason for Hancock is there just to irritate the people that support the permit program and respect the property.
Being able to drive in to the escapement area is fair, the spring bear tag is designed to be a damage control hunt. It would make little scenes to offer a damage control tag and handicap the hunter that is helping your company save thousands of dollars in tree damage.
What you're failing to comprehend is if Hancock doesn't abide outside of state laws, Hancock can put any stipulation they want on THEIR private property. I personally could care less but I don't own the land. It would be no different if you owned the land and allowed your friends on the property with the stipulation not shed hunt. State law permits shed hunting on public land, the land owner has ever right not to permit it.
Post by: woodman on March 07, 2014, 06:14:00 PM
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He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee.
I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all.
Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!
A couple of thoughts here funkster.
First, I have talked to by a member that told me that Clyde said he would pull his permit if he found a shed in his vehicle even if it was not in an escapement area.
Second thought is about the fairness that you talk about. It is true that Spring bear hunters can drive in the escapement areas whereas others that do not draw the permit can not. Is that fair? I would like to think that if a person is lucky enough to draw that permit it would be nice if they follow state laws that they could pick up a shed antler as a perk of the special drawing. It hurts no one. I do know that workers on the farm drive in those area a lot and have been told by the office that they pick up antlers. So when you say the escapement areas are closed to everyone, that really is not a true statement.
It seems to me that some workers want their own little haven for antlers and tell a different story than the front office.
With that said, I do not value antlers more than my permit. We do pay a heck of a lot to get that permit and as long as we follow the laws, what good reason for Hancock is there just to irritate the people that support the permit program and respect the property.
Being able to drive in to the escapement area is fair, the spring bear tag is designed to be a damage control hunt. It would make little scenes to offer a damage control tag and handicap the hunter that is helping your company save thousands of dollars in tree damage.
What you're failing to comprehend is if Hancock doesn't abide outside of state laws, Hancock can put any stipulation they want on THEIR private property. I personally could care less but I don't own the land. It would be no different if you owned the land and allowed your friends on the property with the stipulation not shed hunt. State law permits shed hunting on public land, the land owner has ever right not to permit it.
Funkster, I will try to not get personal here. There is nothing in this thread that I don't understand. What you write about concerning the property ownership and what they can allow has been stated here earlier, even by bigtex. I did not see where anyone said that the property owner could not restrict shed hunting. What you are failing to comprehend is that the front office gave a different answer than what Clyde is saying.
I started this thread trying to be of help to other guys out there so that they would not get in trouble with Clyde. It came up to ask the front office about it, so I did. That is where I got a different answer. I have no problem following rules, but comprehending is not a problem. I know that some think all others are stupid but themselves, but that truly is not the case.
Post by: bentley30-06 on March 08, 2014, 01:54:50 PM
Post by: MLhunter1 on March 10, 2014, 04:01:10 PM
Post by: Pygmy on March 10, 2014, 05:58:52 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 10, 2014, 06:27:22 PM
Post by: bentley30-06 on March 10, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
This whole thing is about the guys who draw a spring bear tag and buy a short term access pass just for spring bear season. You have a annual permit, it does not apply to you. Thats why clyde didn't say anything.
I have received an unofficial notification from him in the past that it was unlawful for us to remove sheds. I was simply updating the folks on here with what he told me that day. It applies to me also. I pay to access that land therefore any information about it...applies to me.
Post by: MLhunter1 on March 11, 2014, 06:06:45 AM
Post by: grundy53 on March 11, 2014, 06:32:14 AM
I had one in my hands and showed clyde a picture of another the other day. And all he had to talk about was kicking guys out who take them behind the gates with a spring bear tag. But by all means if you feel this applies to you feel free to leave the sheds for me.Some of us have the regular pass and a spring bear permit...
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Post by: longwalker on March 13, 2014, 09:36:29 PM
In the end the hancock office makes the calls of course. But in the meantime sounds like clyde will remove a pass and cause a guy to work with the office to get it back. If they would allow us full pass holders drive behind the gates with the spring bear guys I would not have a problem with the bear guys grabbin sheds. But there are sheds all over the farm, plenty for everyone who is willing to work for em. Clyde likes to strutt his feathers.
I would like to see Clyde try to take someones pass based on His own Will and desires. Seems to me that his job would be on the line if He pulled a stunt like that.
We as permit holders spend good money to not be harassed and looked at as if where always hiding something. My advise to anyone who has sheds in there truck and Clyde talking to you would be, Go talk to the office and management and No I'm not giving you my Pass and Key.
when you signed the access agreement you pretty well agreed to be subject to getting your pass "pulled" at the desecration of the tree farm. Clyde represents the tree farm from a boots on the ground stand point. so arguing or getting in a pissing match with the guy isnt going to play much in your favor. if your bear hunting then bear hunt, if you wanna shed hunt, then shed hunt and leave the truck at the gate. why you would rather pick up a antler over fill a bear tag is lost on me but to each his own. its really really simple to avoid the entire conflict. oh and Clyde's a member on this forum if you guys weren't aware
Post by: Hawgdawg on March 13, 2014, 09:42:36 PM