Post by: HunterSled on January 12, 2014, 01:25:02 PM
Hope this post is helpful.
Sled
Post by: jackelope on January 12, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
Is this him?
http://www.huntingrich.com/ (http://www.huntingrich.com/)
Post by: bearpaw on January 12, 2014, 02:40:00 PM
I wonder what the other side of the story is? I sent the guy an email asking him if he wanted to offer his side of the story with a link to this topic.
Post by: jrebel on January 12, 2014, 02:41:54 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 12, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
Is a $2k deposit commonplace in this scenario, Dale?
CRAIG COLORADO MULE DEER HUNT
WE HAVE SPECIAL LANDOWNER TAGS WHICH LETS YOU HUNT WITH A RILE ANYTIME FROM OCTOBER - DECEMBER 24TH, HUNT INCLUDES MEALS LODGING, LAND OWNER VOUCHER AND 2X1 GUIDE
Post by: Eli346 on January 12, 2014, 03:15:39 PM
Post by: bearpaw on January 12, 2014, 03:18:22 PM
Man, you need to get the authorities involved with this guy. Looks like Roch Botta has the same copied and pasted reply to every thread he's responded to. I'll be curious to hear if he's got something new to say other than his other replies that are all exactly the same.
Is a $2k deposit commonplace in this scenario, Dale?
Yes, a 50% deposit is pretty normal for most outfitters. If the hunt is $4000 then they would ask for a $2000 deposit.
It's amazing how small of world the hunting world is. Rich just called me, it turns out I have talked to him before, he is a booking agent, he nearly sent me some hunters last fall for Montana, but apparently the deal fell through and the hunters decided not to come.
Now what's even more surprising is that the hunter who is mad at Rich has hunted with me twice in Montana and once in Idaho.
I always figure there is two sides to every story, but I am surprised that I know both people. I'll let them work it out, it's really none of my business, I sent the message to Rich because I thought both parties should have a chance to air their side of the story.
Post by: Bean Counter on January 12, 2014, 03:25:29 PM
Im curious if you checked this guys references prior to forking over cash. I hope you guys get it worked out.
Post by: Dave of TDG-Farms on January 12, 2014, 03:56:46 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 13, 2014, 06:01:59 AM
Post by: blacktailer on January 13, 2014, 09:18:37 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-WYOMING-ELK-HUNT-4-399-100-DRAW-NEVER-HAD-A-HUNTER-NOT-DRAW-/390745701531?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5afa423c9b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-WYOMING-ELK-HUNT-4-399-100-DRAW-NEVER-HAD-A-HUNTER-NOT-DRAW-/390745701531?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5afa423c9b)
Post by: jackelope on January 13, 2014, 05:36:08 PM
About average for guided hunt. Lives in NY to guide in Colorado might raise a flag.
He's a booking agent, not a guide.
Post by: fishinmike on January 13, 2014, 05:52:36 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 13, 2014, 06:11:57 PM
Called hunting consultants, used one for a dall sheep huntAbout average for guided hunt. Lives in NY to guide in Colorado might raise a flag.
He's a booking agent, not a guide.
Post by: jackelope on January 13, 2014, 06:15:25 PM
Called hunting consultants, used one for a dall sheep huntAbout average for guided hunt. Lives in NY to guide in Colorado might raise a flag.
He's a booking agent, not a guide.
Roger that... I was just saying he's not guiding in Colorado.
although, based on this thread...who the H knows what he's really doing.
Post by: HunterSled on January 21, 2014, 02:47:44 PM
Sled
Post from Brad Everett
>>Posted by sthunter on 08 November 2013 - 03:12 PM
Hello Everybody,
My name is Brad and I too was scammed by Rich Botta. I sent him a $4000 deposit in October of 2012 for a mule deer hunt that was supposed to take place in Craig Colorado in November of 2013. He asked that I overnight him the check because "hunts are selling fast". After he cashed my check I received very little correspondence from him despite my MANY MANY attempts. Five months after paying him he got me in touch with one outfitter that wouldn't even accommodate me because Rich Botta sent me. This outfitter despises Rich because he misrepresents his hunts, and refused to do any business with him. Besides the fact that the outfitter dislikes Rich, The hunt was nowhere close to what I was told I would be getting. Rich and I agreed to:
5 day Hunt in Craig CO.
Land Owner Voucher Included
November Dates
1 Free Observer
1x1 Guide
160" Plus Deer
What Rich tried to provide was NONE of the above. I asked for a refund 6 weeks after him cashing the check (November 11, 2012) and to this day I have not received a refund or a hunt. He told me he would refund the money if I didn't get the police involved but he kept making excuses and never did. In September 2013 I went and pressed charges against him and filed a civil suit against him, our court date will be late this month.
I'm sure Rich will chime in and say how he books 200+ hunts per year and he has 1000's of references....Its all crap. Everybody please do yourself a favor and stay away from this man, I hope this message reaches anybody looking to book a hunt through an agent. I posted this to clear up any concerns about this being a publicity stunt.....it is not. Just another pissed of client of Rich Botta trying to warn others. If you have any questions regarding this please feel free to email me at: bradeverett03@yahoo.com<<
Post by: h20hunter on January 21, 2014, 03:39:56 PM
Thanks for letting ne know , i tried to post on there but they will not let me, i tried paying him back if he takes everything down and he will not i do not jnow what to do he is nuts and im searching for a lawyer as we speak, this is riduclous that anyone can go on there and lie online in december i said i would pay him back if he shows me he will take these posts down instead he writes more bad posts he said he does not care he wants his money and he will keep writing things about me ! What would u do! I have a nut case on my hands that has nothing beyter to do. He will pay soon enough i will have a great lawyer and he will pay big money for what he has done online and all the lies!! Thanks for the info
Rich
Post by: huntnphool on January 21, 2014, 03:45:42 PM
Interesting:I'm confused, are you "H2Ohunter", in fact Richard Botta? :dunno:
Thanks for letting ne know , i tried to post on there but they will not let me, i tried paying him back if he takes everything down and he will not i do not jnow what to do he is nuts and im searching for a lawyer as we speak, this is riduclous that anyone can go on there and lie online in december i said i would pay him back if he shows me he will take these posts down instead he writes more bad posts he said he does not care he wants his money and he will keep writing things about me ! What would u do! I have a nut case on my hands that has nothing beyter to do. He will pay soon enough i will have a great lawyer and he will pay big money for what he has done online and all the lies!! Thanks for the info
Rich
Post by: h20hunter on January 21, 2014, 03:51:16 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on January 21, 2014, 04:00:34 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 21, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
Nope...I just pasted the email he sent me. I shot him an email saying he may want to tell his side of the story. There are enought people on here that know who I am.:chuckle: Got it, it looked like you were saying it. :yike:
Post by: MtnMuley on January 21, 2014, 04:24:49 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 21, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
My username is huntrick, i cant post
Rich
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014, d s <xxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
Anyone can create a username and log in.....nobody will stop you.
Post by: jackelope on January 21, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
:dunno:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=19643
Post by: jackelope on January 21, 2014, 06:03:01 PM
Anyone can create a username and log in.....nobody will stop you.
This is not entirely accurate. We stop people all day every day.
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 21, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
I'm curious to see what we learn here...
Post by: Bmcox86 on January 21, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 21, 2014, 06:11:12 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 21, 2014, 06:27:04 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 21, 2014, 06:34:38 PM
Post by: huntrick on January 21, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
ALSO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK TO MY OUTFITTER IN COLORADO THAT HE TURNED DOWN IN TRINADAD FOR 160+inch bucks feel free to contact me! We ended up eating 4 tags this year in colorado!! THE GUIDE IS SHOCKED THAT HE IS LYING!!
Rich
Post by: jason stevens on January 21, 2014, 07:27:49 PM
Post by: huntrick on January 21, 2014, 07:36:01 PM
Post by: CAM38 on January 21, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 21, 2014, 08:01:45 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 21, 2014, 10:59:09 PM
Post by: haugenna on January 21, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
Is it me or are we all bored with nothing to kill. LOL
Post by: jackelope on January 22, 2014, 08:18:13 AM
So the credibility of the guys story is in question for spelling and grammar errors, thats funny! :chuckle:Because that's what makes a good hunter.
:yike:
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 22, 2014, 08:39:27 AM
Curious to see what HunterSled has to say in response, if anything.
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 22, 2014, 08:55:08 AM
Interesting...
Curious to see what HunterSled has to say in response, if anything.
It sounds like he isn't solution oriented, so far he's been mud-slinging but wont have a discussion with Rick...
So far Rick's explanation holds water to me :dunno:
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 22, 2014, 09:16:08 AM
So far Rick's explanation holds water to me :dunno::yeah:
Post by: CAM38 on January 22, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
Post by: washingtonmuley on January 22, 2014, 09:21:36 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 22, 2014, 09:59:09 AM
A quick google search will show that rich is a scam, 1st bad review was 2009. F rating from BBB. A funny one is if you search him by rich botta, there's a discussion of him posting client pics, and the hunter in the pic doesn't know him. Also seems that sled has a lot of time on his hands, since October he's hit a ton of hunting sites with the same post, and rich has been able to find and post similar responses. I'm just saying that I'd do a little research before I gave a guy 2k. Funny thing is, there's no mention anywhere of the guides he uses, and no guide responses or testimonials about rich. :twocents: The phone number on his website works, who's gonna call and book a trip? :chuckle:
I'm not about to book any trip but I'll tell you that there are a lot of good people and businesspeople in situations similar to Rick's. Booking agents have a lot of enemies and bad experiences regardless of how good they do and if their intentions are sin-free.
That being said, I do not know the particulars but we most assuredly cannot judge a business 100% of the time based on the internet posts you read. Firsthand experiences relayed on the internet are obviously merited but we haven't seen much from Sled since Botta showed up have we? :dunno:
Very curious...
Post by: sirmissalot on January 22, 2014, 10:36:23 AM
Who's Rick? :dunno:
Post by: boneaddict on January 22, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 22, 2014, 11:03:48 AM
Sled vs. Rich
Who's Rick? :dunno:
:ACRY: pardon me for using the incorrect "short"
Post by: superdown on January 22, 2014, 11:16:25 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 22, 2014, 11:22:42 AM
Post by: bigmacc on January 22, 2014, 04:20:42 PM
So the credibility of the guys story is in question for spelling and grammar errors, thats funny! :chuckle:
:yeah:
Post by: lostbackpacker on January 22, 2014, 04:49:30 PM
Post by: kramer on January 22, 2014, 04:57:28 PM
Here's a link to a good one to. Sounds like rich is a scammer. I have heard this about him last year. Nothing new.
Post by: billythekidrock on January 22, 2014, 05:04:10 PM
Sled posted (copy/paste) this on dozens of pages and very seldom came back for a second post. He is not the only one who has posted complaints about Rich.
Rich has gone to some of the sites and posted the same reply he has here (copy/paste). He has at least two complaints with the BBB and has more than a few people stating they have been scammed.
On one forum a mod deleted both of them stating, "I just gave them both the boot. Something just ain't right about this."
To me, it sounds like the OP got burned and is getting even. In a thread on MM a west coast outfitter mentions being scammed and Rich goes off the deep end.
I am not sure who is in the wrong but I know I would never use Rich or any of his services.
Post by: Come Get Some on January 22, 2014, 07:24:16 PM
Post by: bearpaw on January 23, 2014, 09:15:51 AM
Random thought might be the same guy playing both side of the fence. :chuckle:
No, they are two different people living on opposite sides of the country.
Post by: cbond3318 on January 23, 2014, 10:49:35 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 23, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
Personally I would like to see this settled the American way, Judge Judy Live from Las Vegas! >:(
That would be awesome. "This is my sandbox!" :yike: :yike:
Post by: magnum72576 on January 23, 2014, 11:04:25 AM
I WAS ALSO SCREWED BY THIS STUTTERING CON ARTIST. Myself and a friend booked a 2nd season Gun Hunt in IOWA in 2009. It was $1200 each and we both sent in a $600 deposit. We were promised to hunt multiple private farms that would not be hunted. Rich assured us that he hunted the farm with his father the year before and had multiple encounters with deer in the 150" range. We drove down 25 hrs to get there and were met by "John" the alleged farmer. It seemed odd that when we got to Johns house it resembled a house that should be condemned. The place was disgusting. However John answered the door and gave us a puzzled look. After a few minutes I asked John if he owns any land. He responded with a "NO, I don't know why Rich would tell you that I did. An hour later he agreed to show us where we would be hunting. Being that John was very sketch looking I said that we would follow him in his white van. He then informed us that he had no gas because he spent all of his money on two blinds for us. He then pulled out two of the smallest pop up blinds that I have ever seen. He stated "I just picked these up at Kmart." They were plenty big for a 10 year old but not for an adult. Refusing to let this guy in our vehicle we gave him $50 to put gas in the van for the week. We drove about 10 minutes away an he pulled off the shoulder of the road. He walked back to our vehicle and was pointing toward the woods showing us where we would be hunting. A few minutes later a real farmer drover down the road towards us. John then nervously said "just pretend you are my relatives" That's when I had enough. I told the farmer we were paying to hunt and supposedly this is land we can hunt. The farmer told all of us to get out of here before he has us arrested. I immediately called the stutterer *(rich botta). He kept feeding me the typical bs BLAH BLAH BLAH. In summary: We each lost our $600 deposit's. We wasted a week of vacation from work. We wasted our gas money vehicle wear and tear to drive from upstate NY to IOWA. And we never ever set one foot in the woods to hunt. We would of salvaged the hunt on public land if we had Iowa buck tags, but this was also part of the scam. Rich said we would be getting land owner tags. Which is another complicated story. However rich felt bad and did try to get us on some other farms. So we entertained the wild goose chase and drove 2 hours to the south east corner of IOWA and spoke with a landowner. He showed us the ground and pictures of the deer that they have killed there. The deer were all small and not what we were interested in. Lastly this clown tried to get us to drive to a neighboring state to hunt. He couldn't get it through his thick skull that we drove 25 hours to hunt 150" deer in IOWA. He agreed to refund our deposits but he needed a month's time because he was going through a divorce and didn't have the money yet. Needles to say we have yet to get any money back. THE WORST HUNT EVER.
Rich if you want to do the right thing then send ED and I our refunds of $600 each plus the $50 we gave that clown John for gas.
Tony Pelizza
email: magnum72576@yahoo.com
Post by: cbond3318 on January 23, 2014, 11:12:18 AM
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 23, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 23, 2014, 11:22:45 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on January 23, 2014, 11:29:07 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 23, 2014, 11:33:11 AM
Post by: quadrafire on January 23, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 23, 2014, 02:22:15 PM
I think we should rename this thread "Hunting adventures gone bad." Curious to see who else the googlebots attract to this thread.
It's fair to say that HuntWa has a lot of viewers and lurkers 8)
Post by: stromdiddily on January 23, 2014, 02:23:00 PM
I think we should rename this thread "Hunting adventures gone bad." Curious to see who else the googlebots attract to this thread.
:yeah: :yeah: :tup:
Found this for the first time today and it has provided a solid 15 minute distraction from work :chuckle:
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 23, 2014, 02:43:48 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 23, 2014, 02:47:08 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2014, 03:22:01 PM
I'd say yes if it was good publicity. However, if you type his name and hunting into google you get more than three pages of nothing but forums. They all have the same post, the same comments, and the same lack of follow up. I'd say from the looks of it Ricks Hunting Adventures is just as shady appearing as the one making the claims.
The "one" making the claims is like 3-5 making claims now, plus I have a pm in my inbox from someone else...an actual member of this forum, who also has some negative experience with Rich.
Post by: h20hunter on January 23, 2014, 03:33:25 PM
Post by: boneaddict on January 23, 2014, 05:24:16 PM
I think we should rename this thread "Hunting adventures gone bad." Curious to see who else the googlebots attract to this thread.
It's fair to say that HuntWa has a lot of viewers and lurkers 8)
I wish a few of them would buy calenders to support their local photographer. :chuckle:
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 23, 2014, 08:31:36 PM
-Steve
Post by: magnum72576 on January 24, 2014, 05:31:39 AM
The following email I received a few days ago and did a quick search and that led me to this website:
ReedThis245@aol.com
Jan 22 at 10:05 PM
Hey Tony,
Noticed your post on the 24campfire site. Have you Googled Rich's
Hunting Adventures lately? He ripped off two hunters. One $2K and the
other $4K. Both are blasting Rich on the forums. One has a court date
this Thursday in Texas and then plans to use the case to file a mail
fraud case.
Mike
Tony
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 24, 2014, 06:07:07 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 24, 2014, 07:59:53 AM
I think we should rename this thread "Hunting adventures gone bad." Curious to see who else the googlebots attract to this thread.
It's fair to say that HuntWa has a lot of viewers and lurkers 8)
I wish a few of them would buy calenders to support their local photographer. :chuckle:
Thanks for the reminder... I need to go to lulu
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 24, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
Post by: huntnphool on January 24, 2014, 09:09:08 AM
Unfortunately I see that a few member are questioning the validity of the negative comments about rich's hunting adventures. I can only speak for my experience in 2009 with my friend ED. However a quick check will see that I put a post on Bowsite years ago regarding this incident. I left my email for others to contact me. I have since been contacted many times by other hunters that have been ripped off by this guy. Yes this is my first post on this web site.
The following email I received a few days ago and did a quick search and that led me to this website:
ReedThis245@aol.com
Jan 22 at 10:05 PM
Hey Tony,
Noticed your post on the 24campfire site. Have you Googled Rich's
Hunting Adventures lately? He ripped off two hunters. One $2K and the
other $4K. Both are blasting Rich on the forums. One has a court date
this Thursday in Texas and then plans to use the case to file a mail
fraud case.
Mike
Tony
There are plenty of negative replies regarding his name and service on the net for anyone that does a simple search, in today's world, if you get burned by this guy then you really have yourself to blame for not doing your homework.
That being said, what's the story with the moose avatar? Looks like a dandy. :tup:
Post by: bobcat on January 24, 2014, 09:11:20 AM
Still what are you trying to do by posting your story on here besides drag his name thru the mud? Or is there an alterior motive. Just wondering.
It seems someone posting about a bad experience would help others to not make the same mistake. I think it's a great thing. It could also be referred to as dragging someone's name through the mud, but if that's what he deserves, so be it. The Internet can be a wonderful thing.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on January 24, 2014, 09:36:58 AM
I think we should rename this thread "Hunting adventures gone bad." Curious to see who else the googlebots attract to this thread.
Better than TV reality show, this is.......... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Curly on January 24, 2014, 09:44:05 AM
It's amazing how small of world the hunting world is. Rich just called me, it turns out I have talked to him before, he is a booking agent, he nearly sent me some hunters last fall for Montana, but apparently the deal fell through and the hunters decided not to come.
The deal probably fell thru because the hunters did an internet search and found all the bad reports of this booking agent. :o
Post by: Dadx6 on January 24, 2014, 10:22:01 AM
Post by: Band on January 24, 2014, 10:30:02 AM
So, how did magnum72576 come across the HuntWA site and happen to stumble across this particular thread? I mean, the dude's in NY and happened to have a similar experience as OP with 'Rich'. What? is he and the OP following each other around to hunting forums posting about their displeasure? If so, the question remains, Why?One plausible explanation is that people get scammed and then do internet searches to find out whether others have had the same experience, find forum posts with a story similar to theirs and then take the opportunity for a "me too" vent. :twocents:
Post by: cougkilr on January 24, 2014, 10:36:26 AM
Unfortunately I see that a few member are questioning the validity of the negative comments about rich's hunting adventures. I can only speak for my experience in 2009 with my friend ED. However a quick check will see that I put a post on Bowsite years ago regarding this incident. I left my email for others to contact me. I have since been contacted many times by other hunters that have been ripped off by this guy. Yes this is my first post on this web site.
The following email I received a few days ago and did a quick search and that led me to this website:
ReedThis245@aol.com
Jan 22 at 10:05 PM
Hey Tony,
Noticed your post on the 24campfire site. Have you Googled Rich's
Hunting Adventures lately? He ripped off two hunters. One $2K and the
other $4K. Both are blasting Rich on the forums. One has a court date
this Thursday in Texas and then plans to use the case to file a mail
fraud case.
Mike
Tony
If you do a Google search with the above names and topics Hunt WA forums containing the key words will show up.
Post by: huntrick on January 24, 2014, 11:39:25 AM
Post by: huntrick on January 24, 2014, 11:42:53 AM
=RICH
Post by: Elkrunner on January 24, 2014, 12:28:44 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 24, 2014, 12:43:37 PM
Post by: rittem1 on January 24, 2014, 02:11:03 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2014, 02:14:16 PM
Provide your business info and or link because right now I have no doubt in my mind that you arent a very good business person :twocents:.
Pretty sure a link to his website is posted earlier in this thread.
The name of his business is "Rich's Hunting Adventures".
:dunno:
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2014, 02:16:11 PM
So, how did magnum72576 come across the HuntWA site and happen to stumble across this particular thread? I mean, the dude's in NY and happened to have a similar experience as OP with 'Rich'. What? is he and the OP following each other around to hunting forums posting about their displeasure? If so, the question remains, Why?
Google is your friend.
Post by: Band on January 24, 2014, 03:15:05 PM
MAGUMNUMNUTS LOOK WHO IT IS??? IM A STUTTERING PRICK??? YOU WENT ON A TRESPASS HUNT IN IOWA $1200 PER GUY PAID ME 600 DEPOSIT PER PERSON FOR 2 GUYS I MADE $120 PER GUY AND SENT THE REST TO THE LANDOWNER!!! U DID NOT EVEN HUNT ONE DAY U SAW THE LAND AND LEFT. YOU EVEN CALLED ME UP A YEAR LATER AND APOLOGIZED TELLING ME YOU HAVE A BAD TEMPER!!! U WANTED ME TO SEND YOU $1200 WHICH YOU KNEW THAT I DID NOT HAVE BECAUSE I SENT IT TO THE OUTFITTER I SAID I WOULD GIVE YOU MY COMMISSION BUT NOPE THAT WASNT A ENOUGH I EVEN AGREED TO PUT YOU ON A HUNT AND DISCOUNT THE $600 YOU BOTH SPENT ON THAT HUNT AND YOU SAID NO. THEN YEARS LATER I SEE YOU ON HERE TALKING TRASH AND CALLING ME A CROOK AND A STUTTERING PRICK !!!! WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM !!!!! CALL THE GUIDE IN IOWA THAT HAS YOUR MONEY!! YOU BOOKED A TRESPASS HUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT A TRESPASS HUNT IS??? ITS PERMISSION TO HUNT THE LAND . IM A CROOK I TOOK $120 FROM YOU AND YOUR FRIEND LOOK HOW STUPID YOU SOUND!!You are scamming hunters and/or your management abilities to secure and maintain reputable guides is very, very poor. Either way, you are running your business very poorly at best. So, I would suggest that you, sir, are the one who sounds stupid. Maybe you need to find a different line of work. :twocents:
Post by: lastmk8 on January 24, 2014, 03:27:45 PM
http://www.huntingrich.com/# (http://www.huntingrich.com/#)!about/c12dk
"My name is Richie Botta and I'm fortunate enough to be making a living doing what I love. I have a few passions in life other than my family; hunting and talking hunting being next in line."
I can find quite a few things to do with a couple extra grand in my pocket but booking a hunt anywhere west of the Mississippi through someone from New York,... I don't think I get it. I'll settle for going to my buddies place in Colorado, to damn many Elk and I like free guide service...
Post by: lastmk8 on January 24, 2014, 03:38:20 PM
That should be all for now, I'm sure after a long hunting meeting with the boys tonight, and a few adult beverages I'll look again and really pick apart that web site....
Post by: hunterrcc on January 24, 2014, 09:58:46 PM
Post by: boneaddict on January 25, 2014, 09:12:22 AM
So, how did magnum72576 come across the HuntWA site and happen to stumble across this particular thread? I mean, the dude's in NY and happened to have a similar experience as OP with 'Rich'. What? is he and the OP following each other around to hunting forums posting about their displeasure? If so, the question remains, Why?
He stated in an earlier post how he found it.
Quote
The following email I received a few days ago and did a quick search and that led me to this website:
ReedThis245@aol.com
Jan 22 at 10:05 PM
Hey Tony,
Noticed your post on the 24campfire site. Have you Googled Rich's
Hunting Adventures lately? He ripped off two hunters. One $2K and the
other $4K. Both are blasting Rich on the forums. One has a court date
this Thursday in Texas and then plans to use the case to file a mail
fraud case.
Mike
Tony
Post by: clindsayrun on January 25, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
I'd say these guys should all just go pick up an OTC tag or put in for a draw and hike out into the hills like everyone else, but something tells me they'd come back empty handed every time if they weren't shoveling $ out for someone to put them onto a private land 160" mule deer...
Post by: Gobble Doc on January 25, 2014, 08:21:16 PM
Need more popcorn.
Post by: haugenna on January 25, 2014, 10:40:57 PM
I am guessing a few of the guys set up a google alert looking for more people to join in a lawsuit.
Post by: 7mm Bob on January 26, 2014, 02:23:50 PM
Post by: Watimberghost on January 26, 2014, 06:33:25 PM
Post by: huntrick on February 10, 2014, 06:49:09 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on February 10, 2014, 09:04:19 PM
Post by: clindsayrun on February 10, 2014, 09:07:01 PM
Post by: stromdiddily on February 10, 2014, 09:12:41 PM
I thought we were over this guy...
Please...make it....stop
Post by: 6x6in6 on February 10, 2014, 09:24:39 PM
I thinks he craves the attention. :chuckle:
Post by: ICEMAN on February 10, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
Post by: dscubame on February 10, 2014, 09:37:20 PM
Post by: dscubame on February 10, 2014, 09:38:19 PM
Still what are you trying to do by posting your story on here besides drag his name thru the mud? Or is there an alterior motive. Just wondering.
It seems someone posting about a bad experience would help others to not make the same mistake. I think it's a great thing. It could also be referred to as dragging someone's name through the mud, but if that's what he deserves, so be it. The Internet can be a wonderful thing.
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Completely agree Bobcat.
Post by: huntrick on February 11, 2014, 04:26:36 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on February 11, 2014, 04:41:38 AM
Second, from what I have seen and heard, you may lose if you sue him. I would suggest solving this as soon as possible.
Post by: Band on February 11, 2014, 07:47:08 AM
Im am giving him one more chance to yake everything down and i will send him a refund or im getting a lawyer and suing him for defamation of chacter.Idle threats from people like you only serve to further degrade your reputation. Not that it could get any worse. I'd wager that if you tried to sue, you'd lose. And I think you know that.
Post by: magnum72576 on February 11, 2014, 08:11:51 AM
Thanks for the tip on the Google alert. I had never heard of that before. I just set it up only took a minute.
FYI RICH BOTTA called me last week and was upset that I'm still writing negative stuff online about him. I guess he can't understand that hunters don't like getting screwed. He attempted to compromise with me and pay me "some" of the money so that I stop. However I think my asking for a refund of my $600 deposit is more than reasonable. We would still be out Gas to drive from NY to IOWA, Hotel cost's, and the Doe tag (we had to buy according to Rich $361.17 )and our time we wasted. For a Guy who is such a successful Booking agent he has NO money. Rich I stand on principle, ED and I want the full refund of our deposits or I will continue to put post's online for the rest of my life so no one else gets screwed like we did. You sure are getting a lot of bad publicity for $1200. The other two outspoken subjects that have contacted me are now in litigation with Rich Botta. I"m starting to think that is a good idea. RICH I WILL LEAVE A STANDING OFFER OF A FULL REFUND OF OUR DEPOSITS OF $600 EACH OR I WILL CONTINUE TO USE MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Tony
magnum72576@yahoo.com
Post by: quadrafire on February 12, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
That is a heck of a Bull in your Avatar :tup:
Post by: rittem1 on February 12, 2014, 10:08:41 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on February 12, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
This looks like Seahawks vs. Broncos and Rich is the Broncos
Now that is funny!
Post by: xXLojackXx on February 12, 2014, 06:31:17 PM
Post by: AlpineMuley on February 12, 2014, 08:22:07 PM
Post by: 7mm Bob on February 13, 2014, 07:10:36 AM
All i ever wanted was to him to take the lies down we lost money on the tag we bought for him but we will still send him a refund. Im not going to send him money back when he lied all over the internet about me. Im am giving him one more chance to yake everything down and i will send him a refund or im getting a lawyer and suing him for defamation of chacter. I love how noone has a clue but right away take the clients side its always the brokers amd guides fault never the clients. I could of sold his spot thats why we take deposits!
Sure seems like a lot of bad ink for the $$$. Google search reveals a large amount of negativity, maybe you need to take a long look at your business model
Post by: Band on February 13, 2014, 08:56:12 AM
I would take him to small claims court and please please film it. :tup:Judge Judy, please. I want to see her rip him a new one. :twocents:
Post by: h20hunter on February 13, 2014, 08:59:15 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 15, 2014, 04:01:02 PM
I don't really care if my guide can read or write, but I sure don't want my booking agent to have those skills. :rolleyes:
This guy looks legit. :tup:
Post by: Mr Mykiss on February 16, 2014, 08:35:20 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on February 17, 2014, 09:17:48 PM
Post by: krapmit on February 18, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
IF HES WILLING TO GIVE MONEY BACK AT ALL, HES OBVIOUSLY AT FAULT. NO WAY IN HELL SOMEONE WOULD REFUND A CUSTOMER WHO DIDNT DESERVE IT. HUNTTRICK, ITS TIME TO FIND A NEW JOB.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 19, 2014, 05:07:43 AM
Post by: Atroxus on February 19, 2014, 02:51:41 PM
NO WAY IN HELL SOMEONE WOULD REFUND A CUSTOMER WHO DIDNT DESERVE IT.
Actually it happens all the time. When I worked in the wireless industry I regularly saw managers approve replacement smart phones for customers even though they were out of warranty, or damaged in a way that was not covered by warranty. Sometimes it is easier and smarter to eat the loss, then deal with the fallout from an unreasonable customer.
From what I understand outfitting/guide services tend to rely a lot on word of mouth advertising, so having 1 or 2 people who are willing to make a fuss could cripple a person's ability to make money even if the people making the fuss are lying.
Personally i have no idea who is telling the truth, or if it is somewhere in the middle. If Rich really did accept payment by mail and reneged on his contract, I am pretty sure he could be prosecuted for mail fraud, in which case the OP should be contacting the authorities not message boards. :twocents: